Re: 2014 Formula One World Championship - The teams and drivers of next season

by RealRacer4 Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:49 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:The F1 race in New Jersey is officially off for next year, as are Mexico and Korea. The only other changes are that Japan and Russia have switched spots, and Abu Dhabi will be the last race of the season.

Aside from Bahrain and Abu Dhabi being on the schedule, it's actually a pretty decent schedule.

by Milan655 Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Glad they have dropped they very useless races in Korea and India, replacing with Austria and (to a lesser extent) Russia!

by RetrogradeRenegade Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Milan655 wrote:
RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:The rumour was that Ferrari paid Sauber's wage bill for Nico Hulkenberg to stop him driving for Lotus in the final 2 races of this year instead of Kovalainen. Although one point may be that they wanted to make sure Lotus could not gain enough points, perhaps there was also the idea that Alonso may leave at the end of the upcoming season and they could bring him in to replace the Spaniard. This was reported by an Italian blog however, so the source is very dubious.
Especially considering Hulkenberg has already stated that it was his decision not to race for Lotus.
Ah, yes, this is true but why would a driver openly admit something like this? It's not something a driver would do under these circumstances, something they would cover up.

I dunno, why wouldn't he?

by Milan655 Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:52 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:The rumour was that Ferrari paid Sauber's wage bill for Nico Hulkenberg to stop him driving for Lotus in the final 2 races of this year instead of Kovalainen. Although one point may be that they wanted to make sure Lotus could not gain enough points, perhaps there was also the idea that Alonso may leave at the end of the upcoming season and they could bring him in to replace the Spaniard. This was reported by an Italian blog however, so the source is very dubious.
Especially considering Hulkenberg has already stated that it was his decision not to race for Lotus.
Ah, yes, this is true but why would a driver openly admit something like this? It's not something a driver would do under these circumstances, something they would cover up.
I dunno, why wouldn't he?

When you have money involved like it supposedly was, you stay quiet. I do agree with you, I doubt that it happened, I just propose it as a possibility.

by Alta Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:59 pm

INB4 New Jersey is on again. (Seeing a trend here lol)

Do not like Abu Dhabi being the last race...Brazil is leaps and bounds more entertaining (Hell i'd go as far to say it's almost tradition at this point)

by RetrogradeRenegade Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:34 pm

Milan655 wrote:
RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:The rumour was that Ferrari paid Sauber's wage bill for Nico Hulkenberg to stop him driving for Lotus in the final 2 races of this year instead of Kovalainen. Although one point may be that they wanted to make sure Lotus could not gain enough points, perhaps there was also the idea that Alonso may leave at the end of the upcoming season and they could bring him in to replace the Spaniard. This was reported by an Italian blog however, so the source is very dubious.
Especially considering Hulkenberg has already stated that it was his decision not to race for Lotus.
Ah, yes, this is true but why would a driver openly admit something like this? It's not something a driver would do under these circumstances, something they would cover up.
I dunno, why wouldn't he?
When you have money involved like it supposedly was, you stay quiet. I do agree with you, I doubt that it happened, I just propose it as a possibility.

Fair enough, but as you say, if money was involved he would've likely stayed quiet - but this was not the case.

by BWard Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:58 pm

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111796

F1 drivers will get permanent numbers from the 2014 season and onwards.

by bsoyuz Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:05 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111796

F1 drivers will get permanent numbers from the 2014 season and onwards.

Now that's better

by f1fan12 Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:34 pm

The whole article... Cooper should sue the FIA! They are going to offer double points for the final race

http://www.fia.com/formula-one-regulation-changes

by Alta Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:13 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111796

F1 drivers will get permanent numbers from the 2014 season and onwards.

I like this.

by Milan655 Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:03 pm

f1fan12 wrote:The whole article... Cooper should sue the FIA! They are going to offer double points for the final race

http://www.fia.com/formula-one-regulation-changes

This is silly. If they had adjusted the points system, then it would be fine yet with the one we have now there are some very big problems...1st place will score 50, 2nd will score 36-a 14 point difference!?

Amongst over rule changes, I applaud the introduction of a cost cap, will help Caterham and Marussia very greatly and stop Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes from producing too advanced technology.

by RealRacer4 Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:18 pm

Aside from the double points for the finale, I really like what 's being done. The cost cap should also be applied to every other racing series too instead of having just every little thing in spec and think the racing will be better.

by Milan655 Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:06 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:The cost cap should also be applied to every other racing series too instead of having every little thing in spec.

This could very nicely be applied to World Endurance Championship.

by Metro 6r4 Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:06 pm

f1fan12 wrote:The whole article... Cooper should sue the FIA! They are going to offer double points for the final race

http://www.fia.com/formula-one-regulation-changes

INB4 F1 adopts Nascar chase style races!
They might as well start putting little power ups and weapons around the track for the drivers to use and have a little guy on a cloud reset the car when they crash.

by BWard Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:29 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25346242

Sergio Perez will join Nico Hulkenberg at Force India for 2014, meaning that it could be likely that Paul Di Resta may not remain in F1 next year.

by Alta Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:53 pm

Glad Sergio is staying F1...Let's hope he still has that sparkle that he had at Sauber.

by Magus978 Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:03 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:The whole article... Cooper should sue the FIA! They are going to offer double points for the final race

http://www.fia.com/formula-one-regulation-changes

INB4 F1 adopts Nascar chase style races!
They might as well start putting little power ups and weapons around the track for the drivers to use and have a little guy on a cloud reset the car when they crash.

They tried something similar with F1 Race Stars. It worked, somewhat. Razz

by Milan655 Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:30 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25346242

Sergio Perez will join Nico Hulkenberg at Force India for 2014, meaning that it could be likely that Paul Di Resta may not remain in F1 next year.

Thank f'k! Paul was good but never going to achieve and sooooo boring.

by Metro 6r4 Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:11 pm

Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25346242

Sergio Perez will join Nico Hulkenberg at Force India for 2014, meaning that it could be likely that Paul Di Resta may not remain in F1 next year.

Thank f'k! Paul was good but never going to achieve and sooooo boring.

I'd like to see Di Resta in BTCC to be honest.

by Milan655 Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:48 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25346242

Sergio Perez will join Nico Hulkenberg at Force India for 2014, meaning that it could be likely that Paul Di Resta may not remain in F1 next year.

Thank f'k! Paul was good but never going to achieve and sooooo boring.

I'd like to see Di Resta in BTCC to be honest.

Unless you were painfully unlucky as Gabriele Tarquini was in Formula One to be stuck in cars which could not qualify even with Schumacher at the wheel, the BTCC is too far down the ladder for an F1 driver. The BTCC has lost it's internationality since the end of Super Touring, now it's a proper British championship. Perhaps DTM or WTCC, yet unfortunately he may well end up following Dario's steps.

by **crl** Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Di Resta not in F1 anymore?

One word...

Meh.

Losing Sutil kinda sucks, though. He could win races in the right car. Still, happy to see Sergio Perez still on the grid. Jake Humphrey says that Force India now have the third-strongest driver lineup in F1, behind Ferrari and Mercedes. I would rate it Top 5, but not third-strongest.

by **crl** Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:38 am

Felipe Massa is the first driver to announce what number he will race with next season via Twitter.

It's 19.

by BWard Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:28 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25370813

Sutil to Sauber for 2014.

by flyingturns89 Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:01 pm

I have some more information on the new number policy.

Felipe Massa did release a picture of his helmet with the #19 on it, which means he could be the first to officially announce his number. However, if someone else picks #19, priority would go to the driver higher in points, which was explained. In case of such scenarios, the FIA has contacted each driver and asked them for three numbers they would like, in order from most wanted to least. Nico Rosberg has said that he requested #6, then #5, then #9 for his number. Sergio Perez also said that his choice is #11.

In addition to the new number allocation process, numbers must now be displayed not only on the front of the car, but on the drivers helmet as well.

by Milan655 Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:05 pm

Bottas also requested #77^

by flyingturns89 Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:02 pm

Not sure what the exact reason is, even though I could think of about a dozen, but it sounds like 18 year old Sergey Sirotkin, who was supposed to be driving for Sauber next to Adrian Sutil in 2014, is no longer going to be running next year. I'm thinking most likely he didn't get his superlicense in time, but he is very inexperienced, so that could be it too.

by Milan655 Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:48 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Not sure what the exact reason is, even though I could think of about a dozen, but it sounds like 18 year old Sergey Sirotkin, who was supposed to be driving for Sauber next to Adrian Sutil in 2014, is no longer going to be running next year. I'm thinking most likely he didn't get his superlicense in time, but he is very inexperienced, so that could be it too.

If this information is true-this is the first I have heard of this-then it will almost certainly be due to superlicense, with the team earlier stating the only chance he cannot compete for Sauber is under the circumstance that he failed to secure the required license. And it's understandable that he has failed to secure it; the qualifications being that you must have started a certain amount of races in an International A championship (i.e. FIA F3, GP2, GP3, FR3.5, AutoGP) which he would have achieved, but also to have been a front runner in any of these series-an achievement which has not obtained.

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by Alta Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:05 pm

I've heard rumblings that he wasn't as confirmed as he was made out to be as well. Ah well then.

by BWard Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:44 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25449812

Sounds like Pirelli haven't got themselves sorted out, as Rosberg suffered a 200mph Tire Failure during a Test run in Bahrain.

by RyanB06 Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:59 pm

It was a prototype compound that won't hit the track, according to the story.

by Alpineopossum Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:45 pm

Milan655 wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:Not sure what the exact reason is, even though I could think of about a dozen, but it sounds like 18 year old Sergey Sirotkin, who was supposed to be driving for Sauber next to Adrian Sutil in 2014, is no longer going to be running next year. I'm thinking most likely he didn't get his superlicense in time, but he is very inexperienced, so that could be it too.

If this information is true-this is the first I have heard of this-then it will almost certainly be due to superlicense, with the team earlier stating the only chance he cannot compete for Sauber is under the circumstance that he failed to secure the required license. And it's understandable that he has failed to secure it; the qualifications being that you must have started a certain amount of races in an International A championship (i.e. FIA F3, GP2, GP3, FR3.5, AutoGP) which he would have achieved, but also to have been a front runner in any of these series-an achievement which has not obtained.

In any case, thank god

Looks like Rich Russkie didn't pass the test yet.

by **Cynon** Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:41 pm

Yeah, but Sirotkin would have provided a lot more entertainment than GutiGuti would have...

by f1fan12 Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:12 pm

Damn, there goes a certain addition to F1Rejects!

by Alta Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:11 am

f1fan12 wrote:Damn, there goes a certain addition to F1Rejects!

There's still two other drivers that could fit that bill technically.

by **crl** Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:07 am

f1fan12 wrote:Damn, there goes a certain addition to F1Rejects!

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by Alta Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Hearing one of the Caterham rides might go to Kobayashi.

by RealRacer4 Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:21 pm

Alta wrote:Hearing one of the Caterham rides might go to Kobayashi.

And to think that Pastor Maldolan got a ride at Lotus...

by BWard Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:30 pm

Alta wrote:Hearing one of the Caterham rides might go to Kobayashi.

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by **crl** Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:32 pm

Esteban Gutierrez confirmed for another season at Sauber.

Fernando Alonso will use the number 14.

by BWard Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:14 am

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111936

Instead of landing a full-time drive with Sauber in 2014, Sergey Sirotkin will instead become a test driver for the team.

by **crl** Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:34 am

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111936

Instead of landing a full-time drive with Sauber in 2014, Sergey Sirotkin will instead become a test drive for the team.

That's the absolute best thing that could've happened for him.

by **crl** Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:36 am

Moneybags says that the double points rule could go the way of handing out medals:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/10530334/Formula-One-chief-Bernie-Ecclestone-says-double-points-rule-could-be-scrapped-next-month.html

by PYLrulz Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:55 am

crl wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111936

Instead of landing a full-time drive with Sauber in 2014, Sergey Sirotkin will instead become a test drive for the team.
That's the absolute best thing that could've happened for him.

^ This ^

How many racers are ready in any series to race in a top level series at 19?!? Even Kyle Busch had all sorts of trouble in his rookie year at the NASCAR Cup level at 19 years old despite winning 2 races. Give the kid some practice time, and maybe next year, he'll be ready to race a F1 car

by BWard Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:39 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25542340

Not related to the 2014 Seadon, but F1 in general. Michael Schumacher has suffered a minor head injury in a skiing accident in France.

by Magus978 Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:34 am

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25542340

Not related to the 2014 Seadon, but F1 in general. Michael Schumacher has suffered a minor head injury in a skiing accident in France.

Get well soon, Schumie Sad

by Milan655 Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:27 pm

Lotus will not be appearing at Jerez for the first of the three pre-season tests. Some suggestions commented that their was to appear only in Bahrain for the second and third tests where the temperatures are much more comparable to that of the actual conditions experienced throughout the motorsport calendar, with winter Jerez being significantly cooler than the typical temperatures of the mid-season European rounds.

However, that is complete horseradish. Any tracktime, preferable conditions or not, is experience most importantly with the new 2014 turbos and nose regulations. It appears Lotus are much further off development than any other team, clearly PDVSA really were needed to give the team somewhat of a boost financially.

I reckon the team will eventually find a suitable financial backer; the team was battling with Ferrari and Red Bull at the front last season, definitely not on terms with the likes of Williams also searching for economical relief.

Also, only 3 teams so far have officially confirmed their 2014 car unveilings; McLaren on the 24th; Mercedes and Caterham on the 28th.

by flyingturns89 Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:05 pm

We have got an official car number list for the drivers this season. All but three drivers have a number confirmed, Max Chilton and whoever end up in the Caterhams are still TBA. Otherwise, here is the list.

#1 Sebastian Vettel (Car #1 is reserved for the champion still, Vettel will run the #5 when he is no longer the defending champion.)
#3 Daniel Ricciardo
#6 Nico Rosberg
#7 Kimi Raikkonen
#8 Romain Grosjean
#11 Sergio Perez
#13 Pastor Maldonado
#14 Fernando Alonso
#17 Jules Bianchi
#19 Felipe Massa
#20 Kevin Magnussen
#21 Esteban Gutierrez
#22 Jenson Button
#25 Jean-Eric Vergne
#26 Daniil Kvyat
#27 Nico Hulkenberg
#44 Lewis Hamilton
#77 Valterri Bottas
#99 Adrian Sutil
TBA Max Chilton
TBA Caterham Driver 1
TBA Caterham Driver 2

by navycook75 Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:46 pm

Ricciardo confirms that the reason he chose 3 was because of Dale Earnhardt.

https://twitter.com/danielricciardo/status/421830907171840000

And to think I was joking at first.

by RealRacer4 Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:19 pm

navycook75 wrote:Ricciardo confirms that the reason he chose 3 was because of Dale Earnhardt.

https://twitter.com/danielricciardo/status/421830907171840000

And to think I was joking at first.

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I was also looking at the comments from Ricciardo's tweet. Someone said about Kimi's reason behind running his number. I just couldn't help but laugh. Laughing

by BWard Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:27 am

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112096

Max Chilton will remain with Marussia for the 2014 Season.

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