Re: The Wrestling Thread

by Backmarker Wed May 25, 2016 9:23 am

Looks like the brand split will return as well... I guess it'll be set up as Shane vs. Triple H and/or Stephanie.

EDIT: Brand split confirmed on WWE.com. Now they just need to bring the fist stage back...

by PYLrulz Wed May 25, 2016 1:32 pm

navycook75 wrote:https://twitter.com/WWE/status/735452511541334016

Starting July 19th, Smackdown will be live.

And a brand split too.

Honestly, that's a good thing because, even though someone may now only be on once a week, it allows talent a better chance to shine, not to mention no overkill of storylines or characters with shit being repeated over and over again, if not being rushed through before the PPV's.

Maybe with a brand split possibly happening, the WWE can also go back to brand specific PPV's, so it allows everyone 8 PPV's a year (4 for their brand, and then the Big 4 that both brands would share), and a chance to let storylines marinate and build with some time.

by NASCARLOVER427 Wed May 25, 2016 3:32 pm

If they are going to do this, they need some new championships, like a SmackDown World Title (If Roman isn't going to SmackDown, and lets face it, he's not.), and I always thought in the waning years of the original brand split, I thought it was kind of stupid that the tag and woman's championships were for both brands.

Also, WhatCulture has done everything wrestling related, and now...

Spoiler:

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Thu May 26, 2016 8:23 am

NXT Takeover themes were announced today, and both are interesting choices.

First (and main) is Paranoia by A Day To Remember. For people that don't know, the lead singer used to be engaged to Paige, but broke up, so supposed that he'd want anything to do with wrestling.

Second (Women's Title theme) is Karate by Babymetal. For those that don't know, Babymetal is a just regular, old, metal band...
with 3 teenage girls as the lead singers. It seems like someone got bored and mashed DragonForce with Girls Generation.

by Backmarker Mon May 30, 2016 11:18 pm

Raw Spoilers:

by The_Wall_91 Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:45 pm

Al Snow is doing his best Bill Alfonso impersonation on TNA.

by navycook75 Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:15 pm

Spoiler:

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:41 am

navycook75 wrote:
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

by bsoyuz Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:34 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
navycook75 wrote:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:29 am

Pretty proud Australian right now. Earlier today, for the 3rd time in NXT history, but 1st in the male division, three Australians competed on the one match.

The Wrestling Thread - Page 10 Tm61_v10

FFS Hunter give us NXT already, how does England get it twice.

by racingfreak1999 Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:34 pm

Well, this happened.

http://whatculture.com/wwe/jerry-lawler-arrested-for-domestic-violence

Has been suspended indefinitely.

by navycook75 Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:49 pm

Seems like Jerry likes them young, not surprised. I am surprised that this happened, we'll just have to wait and see what some out of it.

I'd love to see Corey Graves get a call up. He and Mauro on Smackdown will be the best thing ever. Though that'll mean no more "shut up Tom" on NXT

by navycook75 Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:37 pm

Hate to double post but...

Spoiler:

by Joshua Michaels Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:48 am

Spoiler:

by Lucstar88 Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:36 pm

Spoiler:

by racingfreak1999 Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:57 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Roman Regins has been suspended for 30 days for a Wellness Policy violation.

http://whatculture.com/wwe/wwe-suspends-roman-reigns-for-30-days

All I can say is... HOLY SHIT!!!!

by The_Wall_91 Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:08 pm

Thank God

by Backmarker Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:56 pm

"I'm not a good guy... I'm not a bad guy... But I know A Guy."

by NASCARLOVER427 Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:44 pm

I'm not going to shit on someone's success, but I will happily shit on this guy being crap at his job and somehow gets success.
YES! YES! YES!

Unfortunately, he comes back on the 22nd, 2 days before Battleground, so please don't keep him in the match at Battleground.

by The_Wall_91 Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:50 pm

As a loyal 1990's ECW fan, I have to do this.

You fucked up! You fucked up! You fucked up!

by navycook75 Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:06 pm

Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.

by racingfreak1999 Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:59 pm

navycook75 wrote:Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.

I kind of had that sneaking suspicion as well. I wouldn't put it past Vince to have known about this for weeks, have him lose the title at MITB, do RAW, and then suspend him knowing the suspension will be over days before Battleground.

by PackerMan71 Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:14 pm

For the record, Seth's victory over Roman wasn't clean.

Now, I know some of you are asking, "Well, what makes you say that?"

Watch at 31:52...

Ref bump. Not clean.

by navycook75 Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:42 am

PackerMan71 wrote:For the record, Seth's victory over Roman wasn't clean.

Now, I know some of you are asking, "Well, what makes you say that?"

Watch at 31:52...

Ref bump. Not clean.

It's the closest we're going to get probably.

by The_Wall_91 Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:28 pm

I received a letter today from a college whose name, I believe, may have been inspired by a certain person.

It is called the College of Wooster.

by NASCARLOVER427 Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:37 pm

racingfreak1999 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.
I kind of had that sneaking suspicion as well. I wouldn't put it past Vince to have known about this for weeks, have him lose the title at MITB, do RAW, and then suspend him knowing the suspension will be over days before Battleground.

WhatCulture is claiming (as I can't find evidence of it) that WWE knew weeks ahead of time.

by PackerMan71 Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:04 pm

NASCARLOVER427 wrote:
racingfreak1999 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.
I kind of had that sneaking suspicion as well. I wouldn't put it past Vince to have known about this for weeks, have him lose the title at MITB, do RAW, and then suspend him knowing the suspension will be over days before Battleground.

WhatCulture is claiming (as I can't find evidence of it) that WWE knew weeks ahead of time.

Apparently, Vince was just going to punish him by taking the title away, but then the news leaked, and they had no choice but to suspend him for thirty days, which, if that really was the case, is a really serious issue. Can you imagine what that would do to their image if that were true, especially since they're a publicly traded company? And they're already financially in the gutter as it is.

by navycook75 Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:25 am

PackerMan71 wrote:
NASCARLOVER427 wrote:
racingfreak1999 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.
I kind of had that sneaking suspicion as well. I wouldn't put it past Vince to have known about this for weeks, have him lose the title at MITB, do RAW, and then suspend him knowing the suspension will be over days before Battleground.

WhatCulture is claiming (as I can't find evidence of it) that WWE knew weeks ahead of time.

Apparently, Vince was just going to punish him by taking the title away, but then the news leaked, and they had no choice but to suspend him for thirty days, which, if that really was the case, is a really serious issue. Can you imagine what that would do to their image if that were true, especially since they're a publicly traded company? And they're already financially in the gutter as it is.

iirc, didn't they change the rules so Orton didn't get fired after he failed a drug test?

Either way it doesn't surprise me that Vince wasn't going to do anything, given how Roman is his guy.

by NASCARLOVER427 Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:15 am

navycook75 wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:
NASCARLOVER427 wrote:
racingfreak1999 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Wow.

I thought if something like this happened to Roman it would of been swept under the rug and Vinny Mac would of been like "IT WAS A FALSE POSITIVE DAMNIT".

Thinking about it now, I feel like this is why he lost the title at MITB.
I kind of had that sneaking suspicion as well. I wouldn't put it past Vince to have known about this for weeks, have him lose the title at MITB, do RAW, and then suspend him knowing the suspension will be over days before Battleground.

WhatCulture is claiming (as I can't find evidence of it) that WWE knew weeks ahead of time.

Apparently, Vince was just going to punish him by taking the title away, but then the news leaked, and they had no choice but to suspend him for thirty days, which, if that really was the case, is a really serious issue. Can you imagine what that would do to their image if that were true, especially since they're a publicly traded company? And they're already financially in the gutter as it is.
iirc, didn't they change the rules so Orton didn't get fired after he failed a drug test?

Either way it doesn't surprise me that Vince wasn't going to do anything, given how Roman is his guy.

That was to get back one of their strikes because Orton had 2.

by Backmarker Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:03 pm

I have no idea if they considered covering up for Roman, but it's not unprecedented to wrap up storylines before announcing a suspension.

by PYLrulz Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:16 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:I have no idea if they considered covering up for Roman, but it's not unprecedented to wrap up storylines before announcing a suspension.

That's been done with just about everyone with any kind of storyline (one that comes to mind since I was at that show was when the feud between Cena and Miz and R-Truth had to be wrapped up because of a violation on R-Truth's part, and they closed the feud with Miz backstabbing R-Truth). That doesn't bother me too much because of the nature of televised wrestling. Wouldn't be good if you have a feud going on and then Michael Cole abruptly going "oop, I'm sorry, we had to end the feud because someone screwed up". If, however, Vince was going to "look the other way", and simply strip Reigns of his title, that does say something... and that's not good.

Also, with Orton, he doesn't have a Jeff Hardy kind of reputation with the drugs and such, so I'm sure that played a factor there. He still has his two strikes, but since he can still be good to push some shirts, they'll finagle a way to keep him around.

by bsoyuz Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:03 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
NeverNeutral wrote:I have no idea if they considered covering up for Roman, but it's not unprecedented to wrap up storylines before announcing a suspension.

That's been done with just about everyone with any kind of storyline (one that comes to mind since I was at that show was when the feud between Cena and Miz and R-Truth had to be wrapped up because of a violation on R-Truth's part, and they closed the feud with Miz backstabbing R-Truth). That doesn't bother me too much because of the nature of televised wrestling. Wouldn't be good if you have a feud going on and then Michael Cole abruptly going "oop, I'm sorry, we had to end the feud because someone screwed up". If, however, Vince was going to "look the other way", and simply strip Reigns of his title, that does say something... and that's not good.

Also, with Orton, he doesn't have a Jeff Hardy kind of reputation with the drugs and such, so I'm sure that played a factor there. He still has his two strikes, but since he can still be good to push some shirts, they'll finagle a way to keep him around.

Orton actually has one strike, one of the strikes was removed after a "redemption" program. That redemption program is why he wasn't really near the main event scene in 2012-mid 2013.

by The_Wall_91 Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:29 pm

I like the fact that John Cena's new shirt is just a rip off of the Pabst Blue Ribbon logo

by PackerMan71 Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:14 pm

So apparently, the drugs Roman Reigns was suspended for was Ecstasy and performance enhancing drugs.

This is Vince's guy, ladies and gentlemen.

by bsoyuz Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:12 am

PackerMan71 wrote:So apparently, the drugs Roman Reigns was suspended for was Ecstasy and performance enhancing drugs.

This is Vince's guy, ladies and gentlemen.

despite ecstasy being rather surprising, i've seen worse. hopefully he can learn from this experience. however I doubt he will be over again for a while.

by Backmarker Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:48 am

PackerMan71 wrote:So apparently, the drugs Roman Reigns was suspended for was Ecstasy and performance enhancing drugs.

This is Vince's guy, ladies and gentlemen.

Source?

by PackerMan71 Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:18 am

http://wrestlingrumors.net/the-reason-roman-reigns-was-suspended-revealed/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvhS94yqzQ

by Backmarker Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:47 am

"WrestlingRumors.net"? Seriously?
I'll believe it when it's in the Observer or the Torch, and not a NEWZ site.

E: That's not even what the article says. The link you posted only says the rumor was an ampthetamie, and the report they link to says it's only a rumor, with no confirmation whatsoever (it also "rumors" that he used marijuana, which they don't even give suspensions for). Please don't further distort baseless speculation.

by bsoyuz Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:41 am

NeverNeutral wrote:"WrestlingRumors.net"? Seriously?
I'll believe it when it's in the Observer or the Torch, and not a NEWZ site.

E: That's not even what the article says. The link you posted only says the rumor was an ampthetamie, and the report they link to says it's only a rumor, with no confirmation whatsoever (it also "rumors" that he used marijuana, which they don't even give suspensions for). Please don't further distort baseless speculation.

WrestlingRumors is literally a glorified rumor facebook page. No credibility whatsoever.

To be honest, regardless of what he got busted for, I'll most likely be hardly surprised.

Apparently, Roman was made to apologize to the locker room, this also has come from HHH side of the company.

by PackerMan71 Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:58 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:"WrestlingRumors.net"? Seriously?
I'll believe it when it's in the Observer or the Torch, and not a NEWZ site.

E: That's not even what the article says. The link you posted only says the rumor was an ampthetamie, and the report they link to says it's only a rumor, with no confirmation whatsoever (it also "rumors" that he used marijuana, which they don't even give suspensions for). Please don't further distort baseless speculation.

Well, I'd be inclined to listen to you if your attitude didn't suck so much, but whatever. It's not worth the high blood pressure getting into a pointless argument with you anyway. Rolling Eyes

by PackerMan71 Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:31 pm

So, RAW this past week got a 1.87 rating, which I believe is the lowest rating that RAW has ever gotten, if not pretty damn close.

And Vince says the ratings don't matter. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, Vince, let's see you say that to the USA Network executives and see what kind of reaction you get, because if the ratings continue to go down and down and down, there won't BE a Monday Night RAW on USA.

by NASCARLOVER427 Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:54 am

PackerMan71 wrote:So, RAW this past week got a 1.87 rating, which I believe is the lowest rating that RAW has ever gotten, if not pretty damn close.

And Vince says the ratings don't matter. Yeah, Vince, let's see you say that to the USA Network executives and see what kind of reaction you get, because if the ratings continue to go down and down and down, there won't BE a Monday Night RAW on USA.

Honestly, even if USA cancels it, someone else will pick it up. Besides, TNA managed to survive cancellation and they don't have the WWE Network.

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:08 am

It was July 4th though. Ratings will be back above 2 next week, especially considering it's following UFC 200.

by PackerMan71 Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:55 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:It was July 4th though. Ratings will be back above 2 next week, especially considering it's following UFC 200.

No excuse. With the amount of quality talent they have on the roster, there is no reason for their Nielsen rating to EVER get down that low, regardless if its a holiday or not.

by Backmarker Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:28 pm

It's not a good number, but it wasn't nearly as bad as expected. There was only a 14% drop from last week, and July 4th episodes have dropped 20+% in the past. And it was still one of the top programs on all of TV.

The brand split will definitely bring in some interest for at least the beginning, and Smackdown in particular will help. Smarks will be more inclined to tune in when there's no spoilers, and casual fans get to watch a fresh lineup on a shorter show, without having to deal with watching a 3 hour Raw.

I try to be positive about WWE. If you don't enjoy it, there's no shortage of other wrestling.

by Alta Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:57 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:

I try to be positive about WWE. If you don't enjoy it, there's no shortage of other wrestling.

For reals. TNA pulled its best rating since the Pop move, New Japan is great if you want to see awesome matches, ROH is another alternate, PWG is fun. Lots of stuff out there.

by GamerAzuzu Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:15 pm

On a related note. Final Deletion is some of the best stuff I have ever watched in my life.

by PackerMan71 Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:58 pm

GamerAzuzu wrote:On a related note. Final Deletion is some of the best stuff I have ever watched in my life.

I heard it was damn good.

Alta wrote:
NeverNeutral wrote:

I try to be positive about WWE. If you don't enjoy it, there's no shortage of other wrestling.
For reals. TNA pulled its best rating since the Pop move, New Japan is great if you want to see awesome matches, ROH is another alternate, PWG is fun. Lots of stuff out there.

I realize that. I'm just saying that WWE is just as capable of putting on great matches with the amount of high quality talent they have, and it boggles my mind that the shows have been awful as of late.

by PRAWBLEMS Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:26 am

Just watched Final Deletion. I realize different people have different tastes, but oh my lord that was stupid. Like watching two drunk/high hillbillies re-enacting Spy Kids.

by Backmarker Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:15 pm

Quick bullet points for the last week or so:

Final Deletion was wacky and a little low-rent, but I'll give Matt credit for trying to make TNA something other then a lower-rent WWE clone.

Balor vs. Nakamura was lit, and the Cruiserweight Classic is fun and different.

Brock got flagged by USADA for a drug test from before UFC. Not too surprising, honestly, but it'll be interesting to see how WWE responds. If he just gets a standard first offense suspension, though, he'll be back for SummerSlam and it won't matter anyway.

WWE Draft is this Tuesday, anyone messed with the Fantasy Draft on the website? Here's mine.

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