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Post by Cynon Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 pm

Thought I'd kick this thread off because there actually is news here. Early in the year IndyCar announced that only 26 cars would be allowed to race in Brazil and China. I recall saying that I'd be surprised if IndyCar actually followed through with that.

Guess what?

They didn't.

All 26 cars that participated in the first three races will be in attendance plus a fourth Andretti Autosport car driven by Ana Beatriz.

http://www.indycar.com/en/News/2012/April/4-18-Moving-a-racing-series-to-Brazil


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Post by BWard Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 pm

Well I think we know which F1 veteran is coming back to his home country for some IndyCar now don't we? Can't wait for it!
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Post by flyingturns89 Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:41 pm

I figured they wouldn't, considering that in some races last year there were races with as many as five cars more than there were supposed to be.
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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:21 pm

Promoters Option right?
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Post by Alpineopossum Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:52 pm

Bia in good equipment? This is one to watch. Indycar has a recent history of female drivers, but the only two in the series right now are in Lotuses, so it's hard to gague how fast they are.
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Post by flyingturns89 Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:47 am

So Andretti will have four this week, and then 5-6 at Indy, depending if they do another deal with the King and John Andretti. It's weird, they have an armada of teams, but can't do anything with them.
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Post by Cynon Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:10 pm

Bryan Herta's team has voluntarily withdrawn from Sao Paolo, meaning that 26 cars will start.

Can't blame them, this year's already been pretty expensive for that bunch...

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Post by AntmanB Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:00 pm

and bryan herta's team is................the 98?
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Post by RealRacer4 Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:48 pm

This is just pathetic. No

Anyways, here's the starting line-up for tomorrow's race:
1 12 Will Power 01:21.4045 112.151
2 10 Dario Franchitti 01:21.4485 112.090
3 9 Scott Dixon 01:21.8545 111.534
4 27 James Hinchcliffe 01:21.9956 111.343
5 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay 01:22.2408 111.011
6 18 Justin Wilson 01:22.2681 110.974
7 38 Graham Rahal 01:21.8033 111.604
8 14 Mike Conway 01:21.8122 111.592
9 67 Josef Newgarden (R) 01:21.8 111.591
10 2 Ryan Briscoe 01:21.8495 111.541
11 26 Marco Andretti 01:21.8498 111.541
12 11 Tony Kanaan 01:22.5210 110.634
13 8 Rubens Barrichello 01:22.3939 110.804
14 5 E.J. Viso 01:22.1404 111.146
15 4 JR Hildebrand 01:22.4321 110.753
16 83 Charlie Kimball 01:22.1973 111.069
17 77 Simon Pagenaud (R) 01:22.4354 110.749
18 19 James Jakes 01:22.3840 110.818
19 7 Sebastien Bourdais 01:23.1331 109.819
20 3 Helio Castroneves 01:22.4143 110.777
21 25 Ana Beatriz 01:23.2692 109.640
22 20 Ed Carpenter 01:22.9424 110.072
23 78 Simona de Silvestro 01:23.6762 109.106
24 22 Oriol Servia 01:23.4509 109.401
25 6 Katherine Legge (R) 01:24.6042 107.910
26 15 Takuma Sato No Time/Speed

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Post by Alta Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:59 pm

Wait...Wha...That fine confuses the hell out of me.


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Post by PackerMan71 Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:08 pm

Dumbest rule in the history of mankind.

Anyways, I'd say good win, Will Power, but the way this season's gone so far, I'm gonna hold off on that.
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Post by JMac525 Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:08 pm

I didn't realize we lived in Soviet Russia...
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Post by RealRacer4 Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:38 pm

This is what was exactly said: "Today is the day to resolve TURBOGATE! I hope (at)indcar gets their act together. It has been embarrassing."

What a joke.

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Post by flyingturns89 Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:52 pm

Tony Kanaan's team also was fined this week. It was something with the wrong fuel tank size, but IndyCar decided to be NASCAR for the millionth time and did not announce the amount fined.
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Post by Cynon Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:47 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Tony Kanaan's team also was fined this week. It was something with the wrong fuel tank size, but IndyCar decided to be NASCAR for the millionth time and did not announce the amount fined.

...and I'm sure it was all a mistake. We didn't know it was the wrong size! Honest! Rolling Eyes You have any idea how much speed you gain with less weight in an IndyCar?

About the owner of Panther Racing... well... LOLOLOLOL. There's a reason I don't like Panther Racing (has nothing to do with the sponsor, has everything to do with Panther being the Gainsco of Indycar) and a reason Scott Goodyear takes jabs at them occasionally (at Milwaukee I think he said that John Barnes is very "tough" to drive for... Goodyear-English for "he can be a real dick")! Laughing

There's a difference between voicing an opinion that is contrary to what the officials have, and then there's bringing the sport into disrepute.

This is having an opinion contrary to the officials but still keeping the sport reputable;

Hey that dickhead wrecked me, and I thought he should have been penalized for unsportsmanship.

This is bringing the sport into disrepute;

Hey that dickhead wrecked me, if they don't give him a penalty for unsportsmanship, then the whole series is a joke.

If I was a series official I would slap you with a fine if you gave me the second one. In F1 the teams have so much money that they don't care, but in pretty much every other sport or game, that rule applies. You badmouth the credibility of the officials, you get fined.

Do not bite the hand that feeds you.

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Post by RealRacer4 Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:22 am

I have to agree with what Cynon said about the whole deal.

Speaking of the subject, IndyCar really isn't screwing around at all. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99250

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Post by RealRacer4 Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:11 pm

Well this caution should make the finish interesting.

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Post by Alta Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:40 pm

Entertaining race. Other people in the field need to step up their game to beat Will Power.

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Post by JMac525 Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:42 pm

Very solid race. Good to see Sato getting the finish he deserves this time around.

Too bad Ana plowed into Carpenter because he was having a respectable run most of the day.
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Post by flyingturns89 Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:38 pm

Cynon wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:Tony Kanaan's team also was fined this week. It was something with the wrong fuel tank size, but IndyCar decided to be NASCAR for the millionth time and did not announce the amount fined.

...and I'm sure it was all a mistake. We didn't know it was the wrong size! Honest! Rolling Eyes You have any idea how much speed you gain with less weight in an IndyCar?

They never said it was too small though, it could have been too big and given them more fuel mileage. I was pointing out the fact that IndyCar didn't have the guts to announce the amount fined though.

Overall a decent race, wish Sato could have gotten up on Will and Hunter-Reay though and pass them.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:04 pm

Cynon wrote:There's a difference between voicing an opinion that is contrary to what the officials have, and then there's bringing the sport into disrepute.

This is having an opinion contrary to the officials but still keeping the sport reputable;

Hey that dickhead wrecked me, and I thought he should have been penalized for unsportsmanship.

This is bringing the sport into disrepute;

Hey that dickhead wrecked me, if they don't give him a penalty for unsportsmanship, then the whole series is a joke.

If I was a series official I would slap you with a fine if you gave me the second one. In F1 the teams have so much money that they don't care, but in pretty much every other sport or game, that rule applies. You badmouth the credibility of the officials, you get fined.

Do not bite the hand that feeds you.

I disagree with this statement because of three little words...

Freedom of speech. That is all.

Besides, if the hand that fed me actually slapped me, I would do more than bite it off. Razz Laughing
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