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Race 10: Round of Daytona
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- I forgot to mention Tyson Lautenschlager and Craig Jonser were in the race. Both were eliminated on the first lap
Woody Watts is done.
Leslie Riggs is done for the year.
The Martinez car story originates from me being an idiot. The 8 car was supposed to have a special paintjob but it never got done, and I accidentally made that carfile a Dodge mesh car instead of a Chevy. DERP.
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- Watts Out for the Remainder of 2011
Woody Watts was airlifted to a local hospital following the Lap 22 wreck in which Watts flipped many times on the backstretch and took a hard hit from Leslie Riggs. Severe injuries were suspected.
And indeed they are severe, Watts suffered a broken femur, two broken ribs, a broken ankle, and a concussion.
Doctors indicated that Watts should eventually recover; however, he will, at the very least, miss the remainder of the 2011 season, and potentially even the beginning of the 2012 season during recovery.
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- Jonser livid with Whitmore. Demands suspension. Questioning the officials ruling to keep running.
Craig Jonser had to end his day on lap one after a massive crash in turn one, and immediately made his thoughts clear. On his mandatory trip to the infield care center, Jonser went on a profanity laced tirade against Mike Whitmore, the polesitter who spun Tony Durbin in front of the entire field, which in turn caused the ensuing wreck. After some time to cool down, Jonser's choice of words were a bit more minced.
"If Whitmore doesn't get suspended for at LEAST three or four races after that BS, than I have absolutely no faith in our officials.
Later on after the Woody Watts red flag ended, Jonser voiced his opinion once more.
"Okay, we have two drivers lives possibly in danger here, I am seriously questioning why we are still running this race. There is practically nobody left...I...F*** it...I'm never coming back to this track again..." Jonser left for his trailer immediately afterward, and refused to come out until the next day. He would later post on his twitter account:
"Thinking good thoughts for Watts and Riggs. Please do the same."
OOC: Nice conflicting reports in the two posts before me
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- Delgado Survives Early Failures, Salvages Top 10
Tom Delgado avoided catastrophe on lap 1, and despite falling off the lead lap for the entire race, managed to finish 8th and possibly revive his dying championship hopes. He did not speak about his race, but instead he spoke of the massive injuries suffered by Woody Watts and Leslie Riggs.
"I couldn't care less where we finished, I just hope Woody and Leslie aren't dead" Delgado said, showing a rare concern for someone other than himself. He did not say anything else as he immediately left for the hospital where Watts & Riggs were taken to. Delgado is a friend of Leslie's sister Allie, who also drives in the ARLA Elite Series as well as in the TM Master Cup Series as an Independent's Trophy competitor.
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- YAYOMGTHEFANCARZAREGUNNADOSOAWSUM--
(wreck happens)
...Sh**.
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- Report: Watts Lost Consciousness During Wreck
A report from Dr. Norman McCaffrey has revealed that Woody Watts lost consciousness during the Lap 22 wreck at Daytona. It isn't known exactly when Watts went unconscious, but Dr. McCaffrey explained that it may be why he is still alive.
"Mr. Watts was unconscious upon the arrival of the safety crew. We believe he lost consciousness due to a severe concussion. If he went unconscious before the car rolled into the turn, it is likely that it prevented even more serious injury. Let me explain.. when the body goes unconscious it comes relaxed, and when the body is relaxed, there is often less soft tissue damage because the muscles can not tense up in anticipation. So yes, the impact from the 29 car most likely caused the more serious fractures, but we believe Mr. Watts was unconscious at that point. In the end though, that really does put into perspective how hard of a hit that was, as Mr. Watts' femur was broken while his body was most likely fully relaxed. If you need a reason why Mr. Watts is alive, that and the HANS device is it."
Watts is stable and awake, but will be staying in the Florida hospital for a few days, before being transported to a hospital near his home in Pennsylvania. Doctors have not given a timeline for Watts' recovery as of yet.
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Max Patterson responds to the incidents at Daytona
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- I was really looking forward to seeing Zelda Ashby drive the #55 car I painted. And especially thanks to Mike Whitmore's shenanigans on the first lap, I got to see Ashby drive a wrecked racecar for the remainder of the race. I'd love to see how Mike Whitmore could snake his way out of that one, because there was no excuse for that type of driving at all.
That accident with Woody Watts seemed unreal. It literally looked like something you would've seen in an NR2003 crash compilation. At first I really didn't expect for Woody Watts to have been hurt as much as he was; Watts has been in big wrecks before, and he's never had an injury that has stopped him so far. But the angle at which Leslie Riggs hit him at was somewhere underneath the drivers' compartment in the car, and I don't think there was a way escape injury in that position either.
As for the Bobby Porteau incident, I don't think there's any excuse as to him running so close to Yamino Tenchi's back bumper in a corner at well over 180 miles an hour. Porteau had the room where he could've let up safely as well, Everett seemed to be giving him the room to do that.
Pardon me for jumping the canon and what not, but the story about the #8 car this weekend reminds me of the modified car Fred Lorenzen drove at Altanta in 1966 for Junior Johnson, which we've come to know as "The Yellow Banana" and "Junior's Joke". Back onto TMMC terms, I sort of expected that the #8 car would do well upon hearing the story, and it seems I was right.
As for the French drivers like Jacques Bouvier and Adrian Deveraux whining about this track, I say, man up you French pansies! This place isn't hard to drive at all, and you're the only ones making it seem that way!
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- Woody's Bolden teammate, Kraig Mummert, put out this statement:
"I am grateful that Woody is OK, albeit terribly injured. I only hope Leslie Riggs is OK, too. Me and Jenn [Jennifer Putnam, Mummert's wife] had a gathering of folks at our house, and this race was the main event. After Tony and Mike's stupidity IN THE FIRST FRIGGIN' TURN, this race went downhill. Then Woody's wreck happened, and we were all down because we were worried about him and Leslie. Congrats to Jose Luis Martinez on his win.
-Kraig"
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Martinez Celebrates Maiden TM Master Cup Win Despite Chaotic Race
After a race filled with incidents that left some of his competitors with injuries, it seemed odd that Jose Luis Martinez, driving for the relatively underfunded Gutierrez team, would be celebrating his maiden TM Master Cup Series win. Martinez, 27, became the first Mexican to win a TM Master Cup Series race, and it marked the first win for the Gutierrez brothers, who have run their little team since 1996, usually only in TM Lights competition. They ran in the TM Master Cup Series with Arturo Gutierrez driving from 1998 to 2002, scoring a best result of 4th in the 2001 Round of Mansfield.
"This is incredible. I didn't expect to be as competitive as we were, but that shows that all the work paid off by everybody." Martinez said in his post race interview.
"The team did not tell me anyone had been injured until just now... I stayed in the car during the red flag. We will visit everyone in the hospital as a team."
Bouvier Defends Red Flag Comments
During the red flag on lap 22, Jacques Bouvier insisted that he felt the race should not have been re-started. Bouvier felt that since the race had been stopped due to two serious injuries, that it should not be restarted out of respect.
"I feel it is the only sensible thing to do in the interests of driver safety." Bouvier said.
After the race, despite improving his position in the race, Bouvier defended his earlier comments.
"I still feel it should not have been restarted. The team told me that if I did not feel comfortable they would allow me to park the car and take the fine for parking a healthy car." Bouvier said.
"But I understand that this is not all about what I think, so I continued to race. I am concerned about Woody [Watts] and Leslie [Riggs], and I hope to check in with them as soon as I can. I finished second, but it is a very empty feeling because of what happened on the track."
Devereux: "Daytona a Disgrace to Racing"
Adrien Devereux was one of many drivers to decry the 2011 Round of Daytona, however the outspoken Frenchman's beliefs were known after he did not even participate in the final practice session.
"The track is too easy to drive, and you're in such little control of your own performance that it's a disgrace to racing." Devereux said.
"I'm okay with racing in packs of cars and cutting through traffic but not being able to choose your own fate isn't racing."
Devereux retired from the race due to mechanical problems early in the race. Despite that, Devereux was noticeably relieved after exiting the garage area.
Whitmore, Durbin Still at Odds
Team Saar USA's two drivers, Mike Whitmore and Tony Durbin, remained at odds after colliding in the first turn at Daytona on the very first lap. Tony Durbin was visibly frustrated, but he remained calm during his post-race interview.
"Mike tried to go to the middle, but you can't cut up into the middle when I have two tires in the middle lane. He wanted to play a shoving game on the track, and that wasn't very smart." Durbin said.
"I think he knows it wasn't very smart, but Mike needs to know that he can't play pushing games like that at superspeedways. He's a good driver most of the time, but I just think he tried too hard too early. We'll settle it like men, that's the only way it should be settled in this sport."
Whitmore was not complimentary of Tony Durbin, the 2007 TM Master Cup Series champion.
"First of all I am personally apologizing to everyone in that whole mess, and I've already stopped by a few of the pit boxes, but the 33 put me on the apron." Whitmore said.
"I mean, I know I went up into his door but there's no reason he should be running me down onto the apron where there's absolutely no grip at all. If I didn't hit him I might have hit someone else, and if I pulled the wheel to the left more I might have lost the car. The apron and the inside lane was very, very slick."
TM Master Cup Series officials invited both Whitmore and Durbin to the hauler after the race. No word on whether or not any penalties will be assessed.
After a race filled with incidents that left some of his competitors with injuries, it seemed odd that Jose Luis Martinez, driving for the relatively underfunded Gutierrez team, would be celebrating his maiden TM Master Cup Series win. Martinez, 27, became the first Mexican to win a TM Master Cup Series race, and it marked the first win for the Gutierrez brothers, who have run their little team since 1996, usually only in TM Lights competition. They ran in the TM Master Cup Series with Arturo Gutierrez driving from 1998 to 2002, scoring a best result of 4th in the 2001 Round of Mansfield.
"This is incredible. I didn't expect to be as competitive as we were, but that shows that all the work paid off by everybody." Martinez said in his post race interview.
"The team did not tell me anyone had been injured until just now... I stayed in the car during the red flag. We will visit everyone in the hospital as a team."
Bouvier Defends Red Flag Comments
During the red flag on lap 22, Jacques Bouvier insisted that he felt the race should not have been re-started. Bouvier felt that since the race had been stopped due to two serious injuries, that it should not be restarted out of respect.
"I feel it is the only sensible thing to do in the interests of driver safety." Bouvier said.
After the race, despite improving his position in the race, Bouvier defended his earlier comments.
"I still feel it should not have been restarted. The team told me that if I did not feel comfortable they would allow me to park the car and take the fine for parking a healthy car." Bouvier said.
"But I understand that this is not all about what I think, so I continued to race. I am concerned about Woody [Watts] and Leslie [Riggs], and I hope to check in with them as soon as I can. I finished second, but it is a very empty feeling because of what happened on the track."
Devereux: "Daytona a Disgrace to Racing"
Adrien Devereux was one of many drivers to decry the 2011 Round of Daytona, however the outspoken Frenchman's beliefs were known after he did not even participate in the final practice session.
"The track is too easy to drive, and you're in such little control of your own performance that it's a disgrace to racing." Devereux said.
"I'm okay with racing in packs of cars and cutting through traffic but not being able to choose your own fate isn't racing."
Devereux retired from the race due to mechanical problems early in the race. Despite that, Devereux was noticeably relieved after exiting the garage area.
Whitmore, Durbin Still at Odds
Team Saar USA's two drivers, Mike Whitmore and Tony Durbin, remained at odds after colliding in the first turn at Daytona on the very first lap. Tony Durbin was visibly frustrated, but he remained calm during his post-race interview.
"Mike tried to go to the middle, but you can't cut up into the middle when I have two tires in the middle lane. He wanted to play a shoving game on the track, and that wasn't very smart." Durbin said.
"I think he knows it wasn't very smart, but Mike needs to know that he can't play pushing games like that at superspeedways. He's a good driver most of the time, but I just think he tried too hard too early. We'll settle it like men, that's the only way it should be settled in this sport."
Whitmore was not complimentary of Tony Durbin, the 2007 TM Master Cup Series champion.
"First of all I am personally apologizing to everyone in that whole mess, and I've already stopped by a few of the pit boxes, but the 33 put me on the apron." Whitmore said.
"I mean, I know I went up into his door but there's no reason he should be running me down onto the apron where there's absolutely no grip at all. If I didn't hit him I might have hit someone else, and if I pulled the wheel to the left more I might have lost the car. The apron and the inside lane was very, very slick."
TM Master Cup Series officials invited both Whitmore and Durbin to the hauler after the race. No word on whether or not any penalties will be assessed.
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- Riggs seriously injured in accident with Watts
Leslie Riggs's long-awaited TM Master Cup Series debut ended in near-tragedy as she was involved in a frightening crash with Woody Watts just past the first quarter of the race.
Riggs slammed into Watts's rolling car at about 200 MPH; the race was red-flagged as she and Watts had to be airlifted to the hospital. Riggs had to be cut from her car because she was reportedly unconscious when safety workers arrived on the scene.
While the extent of Riggs's injuries have not been released to the press, it is all but certain that she will not race anywhere for the remainder of the season.
Riggs has a long history of injuries in ARLA competition, with a recent incident at Alberta that resulted in her having to miss the following race.
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- Steudler: Same ol' Whitmore
With a special Reeses Peanut Butter Cup paint scheme for Daytona, one of Scott Steudler's good tracks, he was absolutley jacked about the weekend. The weekend, however, went sour very quickly, when Steudler was caught up in a lap 1 incident that started between Mike Whitmore and Tony Durbin.
"Oh yeah, I saw it all go down in front of me. The move that Durbin did was pretty stupid, but Whitmore SHOULD know better than to try to wreck someone at the start of a race at a superspeedway. I had some words with Durbin after we got in the garage area, and from what I had talked about with him, he seems that he just got too wound up at Whitmore apparently. No excuse for it, but at least he was a man about it. Whitmore on the other hand, is just being the same ol' Whitmore that I knew from when I raced with Alan (Hodges). Even tried to talk with him, and I could tell, it sounded like he wasn't owning up to it at all. Be a man about it at least! If he was going to apologize to me, do it, but as far as I know, he didn't apologize to me, unlike the other drivers he supposedly apologized to.
I really hate it for Hersheys and all of my other sponsors this weekend, especially with the special Reeses paint job we had on the car, but apparently, as much as I love racing at these tracks, maybe the TM Master Cup Series should just not come here, especially if some drivers, from seeing how the race went, do not act appropiately for this type of racing.
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- Faith Blalock Wants Suspesnsion for WHitmore, Durbin, Prays for Watts and Riggs
Faith Blalock was Furious after watching the TM Master Cup round of Daytona from the Grandstand. " Daytona is a joke now. This is why they didn't go to this track last year and why arla didn't this year."
She also was probably the most wanted of wanting Whitmore to be suspended. "That's the DUmbest move in TM/arla/vscc History. There's no Reason that should have happened." "I REally hope Watts and Riggs are ok. that has to be one of the Hardest hits i have ever seen."
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Cooper: Whitmore Doesn't Need to Apologize
Team EFR reserve driver Ian Cooper, who was on hand at Daytona to relieve either Scott Bates or Charlie Waters, was one of the first to state that he did not feel Mike Whitmore needed to apologize for his involvement in the infamous lap 1 crash at the 2011 Round of Daytona.
"You can show me the replay a thousand times, that wasn't Mike Whitmore's fault at all. I heard what he said and I told him he didn't need to come by because he had nothing to apologize for." Cooper said.
"Tony [Durbin] put him on the apron and in typical fashion, Mike panicked and tried to not spin his own car out, but that meant wrecking his teammate in front of the whole field. Mike Whitmore's just now realized what it means to be in that team and be faster than their golden boy.
Cooper is no stranger to controversy, especially during his driving days for Team Saar USA, when he and Steve Marshall were involved in numerous incidents that peaked when Cooper was tossed from the team with two races remaining in the season, despite leading the championship at the time.
"Steve Marshall pulled the same trick on me here in '05, the only difference then was that I had no intention of lifting. I hope the officials penalize the right guy here, but... well, we'll see."
Team EFR reserve driver Ian Cooper, who was on hand at Daytona to relieve either Scott Bates or Charlie Waters, was one of the first to state that he did not feel Mike Whitmore needed to apologize for his involvement in the infamous lap 1 crash at the 2011 Round of Daytona.
"You can show me the replay a thousand times, that wasn't Mike Whitmore's fault at all. I heard what he said and I told him he didn't need to come by because he had nothing to apologize for." Cooper said.
"Tony [Durbin] put him on the apron and in typical fashion, Mike panicked and tried to not spin his own car out, but that meant wrecking his teammate in front of the whole field. Mike Whitmore's just now realized what it means to be in that team and be faster than their golden boy.
Cooper is no stranger to controversy, especially during his driving days for Team Saar USA, when he and Steve Marshall were involved in numerous incidents that peaked when Cooper was tossed from the team with two races remaining in the season, despite leading the championship at the time.
"Steve Marshall pulled the same trick on me here in '05, the only difference then was that I had no intention of lifting. I hope the officials penalize the right guy here, but... well, we'll see."
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Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
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- Adding on to what I said in my above post about Woody Watts' wreck, in real life terms, the kind of accidents where a car is doing barrel rolls are one of the more less-harmful type of accident to the driver. I don't know if either driver was wearing head and neck restraints at the time of the accident, although I'm not sure if the TMMC uses them to begin with either. If they don't, Watts would obviously have been bounced around a lot in the cockpit, hitting his head against the roll cage, to the point where he was knocked unconscious. Now, where Leslie Riggs had hit Woody Watts, like I said, was right underneath the driver's compartment. It is indeed safer that Watts was unconscious at that point in the accident, because it was most likely at that point a majority of the injuries sustained originated from.
As for Riggs, the only thing I could imagine to blame for the injury, was her body being rocked forward in the car and hitting her head against the roll cage. If the helmet didn't do it's job in protecting her head, as much as I do not want to say this, she would have probably done some type of damage to the helmet.
I don't think that Watts could have been knocked unconscious at first impact, and he may have been conscious all the way until the entrance to Turn 3, at which point, the car was barrel rolling quite rapidly after having dug into the dirt. The swift motion may have even broken Watts' ribs as described in the injury report. The broken femur and ankle were probably sustained when Leslie Riggs hit Watts.
These are just some predictions as to what could have caused both drivers injury, based on what I know about stock cars. If my predictions are accurate, this is in hopes that they could help the people that build these cars make them safer towards the drivers, and other track personnel.
And Leslie Riggs running head-first into Woody Watts' car is a perfect reason why we do not race back to the line.
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did the 39 just park?
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- Silverman posts top-5 run; Shares his thoughts on Daytona and the accidents
Taylor Silverman's day may not have been front page worthy, but to him it was. The young driver finished 4th in just his 2nd Master Cup Series start. However, he was the first to point out that that was because of the lack of a real field. After climbing from the car, Taylor shared his opinion on a number of things.
First on his day:
"Well, the car was good handling wise and the speed was ok. We just didn't get a lot a help to get up there and challenge the front three. The 8 and the 7 were the best cars at the end by far and they earned their finishes."
On the lap 1 accident:
"In all the races I've seen at this track, that was the DUMBEST move I've ever seen. I have no idea what Mike [Whitmore] was thinking but you can't do that and not expect to cause a wreck. I'm just lucky we were able to continue and get the finish we did."
On Bouvier and Devereux about Daytona:
"I don't know why those two are blaming the track. From what I saw today, it was more stupidity that cause the wrecks on track than the track itself. Bouvier finished 2nd and Devereux had a mechanical failure, so I don't know why they are blaming the track. One has his best finish of the year and the other had an issue from the start."
On Watts and Riggs wreck:
"That is the most violent barrel roll I've ever seen here. What had me worried after I saw it was the hit at the end. In a roll, the energy is released away from the driver but a dead hit like the one they had is a cause for concern."
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I don't see why they are blaming the track, because ther speeds are just as high at places like the Eurospeedway and the New York Autoring and while there were bad accidents at both, NOTHING on the level of the carnage we saw today.
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Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
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you win the thread.Kornography wrote:Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
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Kornography wrote:Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
Did he just contradict himself? :S
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kensethfan wrote:Kornography wrote:Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
Did he just contradict himself? :S
Supposed to be a joke.
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like I said on the video, I bet if the race was real, the ISRA guys would of been going insane by the first lap.
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- De Sousa Happy with Top 10; Even happier to be in Lap 1 Wreck
Gaspar De Sousa was quite pleased with a Top 10 Finish at Daytona.
"This was the best weekend for our team by far. This may sound funny but I would like to thank the drivers that plowed into the Lap 1 wreck because the undamaged cars were wrecking a lot during the race. If I was in that spot we would be out of the race. The main thing right now that I'm thinking of is Riggs and Watts. That wreck almost made me vomit in my car and I hope that they both are Ok and can make a quick recovery."
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kensethfan wrote:Kornography wrote:Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
Did he just contradict himself? :S
No, read it again and again until you get it -_-
and yeah, pick up on the sarcasm next time
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But the angle at which Leslie Riggs hit him at was somewhere underneath the drivers' compartment in the car, and I don't think there was a way escape injury in that position either.
Actually Scott, Riggs went under Woodys car and struck the passenger side. I think if that were real life Watts would have at most a leg injury and a Concussion. Riggs would also probably have a concussion.
(Do I over analyze or what? )
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Sorry for the Double post, I thought the wreck though reminded me of this
P.S I thought we determined the Round of Ohio was at Cleavland?
P.S I thought we determined the Round of Ohio was at Cleavland?
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But the angle at which Leslie Riggs hit him at was somewhere underneath the drivers' compartment in the car, and I don't think there was a way escape injury in that position either.
Actually Scott, Riggs went under Woodys car and struck the passenger side. I think if that were real life Watts would have at most a leg injury and a Concussion. Riggs would also probably have a concussion.
(Do I over analyze or what? )
Because the driver is TOTALLY on the right side of the car.
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Cynon wrote:Mother of Invention wrote:
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But the angle at which Leslie Riggs hit him at was somewhere underneath the drivers' compartment in the car, and I don't think there was a way escape injury in that position either.
Actually Scott, Riggs went under Woodys car and struck the passenger side. I think if that were real life Watts would have at most a leg injury and a Concussion. Riggs would also probably have a concussion.
(Do I over analyze or what? )
Because the driver is TOTALLY on the right side of the car.
Actually what I was trying to say was that since Watts car was at a 45 degree angle when he got struck by Riggs and because of that Riggs went under the drivers side at hit Watts right side of the car. Looking at the replay I see you are correct and that Watts was hit in the driver side.
My apologies Cooper.
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Re: Race 10: Round of Daytona
pennst24 wrote:kensethfan wrote:Kornography wrote:Baynefan21 wrote:Have you decided where Ohio will be at?
It will be located somewhere in Ohio, and at a track that may or may not be real, and may or may not be located in Ohio
Did he just contradict himself? :S
Supposed to be a joke.
It could be a real track located somewhere else like how the old version of Bristol is a track in Albaquergue.
Re: Race 10: Round of Daytona
Points and results, please?
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