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Post by East Londoner Sun May 01, 2016 4:06 pm

That one's on Outlaw, pushing Johnson a touch too much. 17 cars involved, including both Ganassi entries, Sofas, Menerds and Dinger. Sad
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Post by NASCARLOVER427 Sun May 01, 2016 4:27 pm

Flip #2.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sun May 01, 2016 4:28 pm

HOLY CRAP KENSETH!
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Post by East Londoner Sun May 01, 2016 4:28 pm

KENSETH! :O
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Post by bigdc48 Sun May 01, 2016 4:29 pm

The wrecks we have seen this weekend, let alone this race....Geez. Thank lord that Kenseth's car didn't catch the fence or that would have been bad. And Thank lord Patrick's alright.
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Post by Sparkz47 Sun May 01, 2016 4:29 pm

I was more worried about Danica than Kenseth. She hit that inside wall big time.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun May 01, 2016 4:31 pm

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OH. MY. GOD.

Glad Danica and Matt are okay about that crash... brutal!

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Post by Rovenami Sun May 01, 2016 4:31 pm

Considering what has been happening in terms of wrecks, I am convinved that drivers like Annett and Danica would have at least had trouble getting out of the car after the wreck if it happened 10 years ago.


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Post by Pyrozooka0 Sun May 01, 2016 4:32 pm

My thoughts on that camera man is best described by the immortal words of Deadpool: "Hope he wore the brown pants."



Dear NASCAR: No one's been hurt, no reason to neuter the cars after this.


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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 4:32 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:NASCAR and ARCA at Talladega - Page 2 ChZdV87W0AIn7xR

OH. MY. GOD.

Glad Danica and Matt are okay about that crash... brutal!

Dat wall! Shocked
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Post by NASCARLOVER427 Sun May 01, 2016 4:32 pm

From the camera position, I thought he was going over the fence.
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Post by Sparkz47 Sun May 01, 2016 4:33 pm

Rovenami wrote:Considering what has been happening in terms of wrecks, I am convinved that drivers like Annett and Danica would have at least had trouble getting out of the car after the wreck.

They've been getting really lucky today. Wasn't that long ago Eric McClure got a pretty bad concussion from a hit almost identical to the one Danica took.
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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 4:36 pm

Just saw the vine NASCAR put out of the Kenesth flip... not that often anymore blowovers in that part of the track happen like that. Shocked
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Post by NASCARLOVER427 Sun May 01, 2016 4:40 pm

That completes the rule of 3.
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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 4:41 pm

At work (as one could tell from my previous comment), someone flipped again?!? Shocked
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Post by East Londoner Sun May 01, 2016 4:41 pm

Yet another big wreck. People driving like utter morons today.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sun May 01, 2016 4:42 pm

When did this race become a gymnastics event?
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Post by Sparkz47 Sun May 01, 2016 4:42 pm

PYLrulz wrote:At work (as one could tell from my previous comment), someone flipped again?!? Shocked

Well, sort of. Whitt was on his side up against the wall.
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Post by NASCARLOVER427 Sun May 01, 2016 4:43 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:When did this race become a gymnastics event?

Right about halfway.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun May 01, 2016 4:43 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:At work (as one could tell from my previous comment), someone flipped again?!? Shocked

Well, sort of. Whitt was on his side up against the wall.

I think it was Kevin Harvick, not Whitt.

Good win for Keselowski. Overall a fairly entertaining, yet frightening race.

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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 4:43 pm

so 2 flips and a side ride... can't recall a race in a long time where that happened
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Post by Pyrozooka0 Sun May 01, 2016 4:44 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:When did this race become a gymnastics event?

They've reached PCC-level Dega crashes.

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Post by AntmanB Sun May 01, 2016 4:44 pm

Buescher and Kenseth Flipped, Harvick half flipped.

Honestly, I want to say the race was really good, but I'm going to give them a pass on the plethora of wrecks cause there wasn't a bs finish.

Next up: Kansas.
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Post by navycook75 Sun May 01, 2016 4:46 pm

That race was mental.

I'm more than okay with Kes winning.
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Post by NASCARLOVER427 Sun May 01, 2016 4:47 pm

This race in a nutshell:

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Post by conrail1990 Sun May 01, 2016 4:59 pm

I'm not surprised we had 2 flips, with the amount bumping that was happening. I was concerned Kenseth was going to go over the fence on the backstretch. Overall glad everyone is physically okay (Maybe not so much mentally).
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Post by bigdc48 Sun May 01, 2016 5:06 pm

Good job Kez on that dominant victory. This was a good, but rather a frightening race indeed.
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Post by Lucstar88 Sun May 01, 2016 5:12 pm

The track and cars aren't the problem.

We have 40 capable drivers all going for it, not giving one single inch. These wrecks were mostly driver error. Daytona didn't have this. I mostly put it on the drivers just not giving anything, no give and take, especially when a chase birth is on the line.
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Post by gone-sovereign Sun May 01, 2016 5:39 pm

Fun race. Crashy, but apart from that we had good racing, which is all I could ask for.

People are complaining about this race and I can't understand why. If it's because it was a crashfest, that's understandable. But there's not much you can do about it without changing the mindset of a driver, which is no doubt hard to do. I'll point to what Luc was saying, it's mostly a matter of guys trying to go all out too soon. On the topic of safety, there's such a double standard that I keep hearing: The safety allows drivers to think they can go all out, but if you took that away, people would complain about the racing not being safe enough. We've had this argument a thousand times before. From my perspective, it's not worth arguing over anymore since the cars are about as safe as they could possibly be.

I laughed very hard when Michael Waltrip wrecked, and those of you on GOMA TS for this race definitely heard me. It's cute that Mikey still thinks he's competitive. I mean, he was saying in qualifying he was gonna run up front with Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and pass Jimmie Johnson. If only he had the talent to back that assertion up. Whether or not Mikey could be blamed for that wreck is up for debate, but I maintain that his first mistake was not pitting.
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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 6:09 pm

kensethfan wrote:Fun race. Crashy, but apart from that we had good racing, which is all I could ask for.

People are complaining about this race and I can't understand why. If it's because it was a crashfest, that's understandable. But there's not much you can do about it without changing the mindset of a driver, which is no doubt hard to do. I'll point to what Luc was saying, it's mostly a matter of guys trying to go all out too soon. On the topic of safety, there's such a double standard that I keep hearing: The safety allows drivers to think they can go all out, but if you took that away, people would complain about the racing not being safe enough. We've had this argument a thousand times before. From my perspective, it's not worth arguing over anymore since the cars are about as safe as they could possibly be.

I laughed very hard when Michael Waltrip wrecked, and those of you on GOMA TS for this race definitely heard me. It's cute that Mikey still thinks he's competitive. I mean, he was saying in qualifying he was gonna run up front with Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and pass Jimmie Johnson. If only he had the talent to back that assertion up. Whether or not Mikey could be blamed for that wreck is up for debate, but I maintain that his first mistake was not pitting.

All it takes is a decent motor and a reasonable car to be able to have a shot at Talladega. Mikey could run until he was 70, and as long as the car is decent, he'll somehow have a shot.
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Post by Alta Sun May 01, 2016 8:28 pm

Boy that was wild, but smashy. Crazy stuff in Alabama today.

Glad everyones out of this okay, lot of big hits and scary flips
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Post by gone-sovereign Sun May 01, 2016 8:46 pm

PYLrulz wrote:All it takes is a decent motor and a reasonable car to be able to have a shot at Talladega.  Mikey could run until he was 70, and as long as the car is decent, he'll somehow have a shot.

Competitive as in not riding around mid-field all race and praying that you don't get swept away in a wreck. And also being competent enough to run with the leaders in the first place. Mikey fails in both categories.

Plus, on any other race weekend that Premium Motorsports car would be running no better than 30th.


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Post by conrail1990 Sun May 01, 2016 8:54 pm

Lets be honest. When Mikey was in the lead, who wasnt taking beats on how long before he crashed? Laughing
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Post by gone-sovereign Sun May 01, 2016 8:59 pm

conrail1990 wrote:Lets be honest. When Mikey was in the lead, who wasnt taking beats on how long before he crashed? Laughing

Oh, I started betting before the race started, and I was betting on how many cars he would wreck. Also how many cars Darrell would wreck just by talking.
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Post by AntmanB Sun May 01, 2016 9:45 pm

So apparently there was a brawl in the stands at the end of the race
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Post by PYLrulz Sun May 01, 2016 10:22 pm

AntmanB wrote:So apparently there was a brawl in the stands at the end of the race

Someone must have talked trash about Dale Earnhardt, redneck jesus that he is Laughing
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Post by gone-sovereign Mon May 02, 2016 8:42 pm

Interesting factoid: By my count, there were only five cars that weren't in a wreck in yesterday's race. They are:

Brad Keselowski (winner)
Trevor Bayne (finished 10th)
Ty Dillon/Tony Stewart (finished 6th)
David Ragan (He was spared courtesy of an engine failure, finished 34th)
Chase Elliott (finished 5th)

(OOC: 800th post! Pretty Colors!)
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Tue May 03, 2016 8:38 am

I'm not that concerned about the whole crashing thing in the race. Drivers were keeping a cool head, all the way until they could make it to half-way without pitting. The last couple of Plate-track smashfests that I can remember have been in similar circumstances. Dega Spring 2013, and Daytona July 2014. Both those and this race had the potential of ending at any minute, due to the weather, which is why the drivers were more aggressive.
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