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Post by BWard Thu May 28, 2015 5:01 pm

Just one week after another fantastic running of the Indianapolis 500, the Verizon IndyCar Series makes it's way this week to the Belle Isle Park Raceway in Detroit, Michigan. Juan Pablo Montoya will be wanting to continue his winning form after taking the brilliant victory in the Indy 500, while two of his teammates, reigning champion Will Power and Helio Castroneves, both won the races here last year and will look to do it again this weekend. Let's hope for some more fantastic racing following up from Indy!

Oh and meanwhile this is Tony Kanaan's paint scheme he will run this weekend:

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Post by BooyakaDragon Thu May 28, 2015 5:45 pm

Horrible singer in a horrible city, makes perfect sense.
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Post by RyanB06 Thu May 28, 2015 5:56 pm

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Post by Ben Atkins Thu May 28, 2015 6:18 pm

That car is actually really nice.

And she's not terrible, I'm actually quite fond of a lot of her recent stuff Razz

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Post by vbooy57 Thu May 28, 2015 7:06 pm

BooyakaDragon wrote:Horrible singer in a horrible city, makes perfect sense.
I'm gonna guess you've neither been to Detroit nor listened to 1989.
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Fri May 29, 2015 12:46 am

vbooy57 wrote:
BooyakaDragon wrote:Horrible singer in a horrible city, makes perfect sense.
I'm gonna guess you've neither been to Detroit nor listened to 1989.
He probably hasn't, but some people are arrogant and think that they can make presumptuous judgments of things that they know little about.

I was planning on attending Race 1 for the second year in a row, but the track and field state finals for Michigan will be on the same day. I'm a little disappointed; I really enjoyed the event last year, and I'll definitely try to go again the next time that IndyCar is in town!

Considering his results so far this season (and the fact that he finished 2nd in Race 1 here last year), I'm wondering if victory #2 may finally be in store for Rahal this weekend. I'd expect a Ganassi or a Penske car to win them first, but I'd still consider it a possibility.
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Post by day500champ1 Fri May 29, 2015 1:14 am

SpeedDemon37 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:
BooyakaDragon wrote:Horrible singer in a horrible city, makes perfect sense.
I'm gonna guess you've neither been to Detroit nor listened to 1989.
He probably hasn't, but some people are arrogant and think that they can make presumptuous judgments of things that they know little about.

I was planning on attending Race 1 for the second year in a row, but the track and field state finals for Michigan will be on the same day. I'm a little disappointed; I really enjoyed the event last year, and I'll definitely try to go again the next time that IndyCar is in town!

Considering his results so far this season (and the fact that he finished 2nd in Race 1 here last year), I'm wondering if victory #2 may finally be in store for Rahal this weekend. I'd expect a Ganassi or a Penske car to win them first, but I'd still consider it a possibility.

If I had the money right now to spare, I'd try to go. One year I'm going to. In an unrelated note, I did once meet Roger Penske before. I was 3Rd or 4th grade I believe and my grandfather worked for Detroit Diesel and they had an open house event and he was there.

Downtown Detroit is (keyword here) trying to bring itself back up. But, between the city government corruption and the crime in the outlying areas, doesn't matter what they do. Though, I give Penske credit for trying to bring life back to the city.
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Post by BooyakaDragon Fri May 29, 2015 10:13 am

I should have added "In my opinion" my bad.
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Post by Milan655 Fri May 29, 2015 11:12 am

DCR going all out with the mid-season driver changes, 6(7) drivers across 2 cars after only 7 race weekends.
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Fri May 29, 2015 1:34 pm

All is good, BooyakaDragon. I realize that the brashness of my response was unnecessary, my apologies for that.
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Post by BooyakaDragon Fri May 29, 2015 4:16 pm

SpeedDemon37 wrote:All is good, BooyakaDragon. I realize that the brashness of my response was unnecessary, my apologies for that.
It's fine, I probably deserved it.
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Post by Cardinals5 Fri May 29, 2015 5:03 pm

I'll be down for both races, hoping the weather holds off. I like rain events...on TV!
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Fri May 29, 2015 9:54 pm

BooyakaDragon wrote:
SpeedDemon37 wrote:All is good, BooyakaDragon. I realize that the brashness of my response was unnecessary, my apologies for that.
It's fine, I probably deserved it.
No you didn't, I just overreacted. No worries!

All four Penske cars have qualified in the top 5 for Race 1. Will Power and Helio Castroneves will make up the front row (with Power on the pole position), Montoya will start in 3rd, and Pagenaud will start in 5th.

The only non-Penske driver in the top 5 is 4th-place qualifier Takuma Sato. For me, this is a pleasant surprise! I hope that he can do well in the race, as well.
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Sat May 30, 2015 2:28 pm

As of right now (2:30 EST), weather reports are calling for thunderstorms to arrive sometime at Belle Isle sometime around 4:00, not long after the scheduled start, and to last well into the evening.

There is also rain predicted for Race 2 tomorrow, but at the moment there are not supposed to be any more thunderstorms.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sat May 30, 2015 3:45 pm

What was the first yellow for?
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Post by BWard Sat May 30, 2015 3:47 pm

Memoriesallbutdone wrote:What was the first yellow for?

Rodolfo Gonzalez spun and stalled.
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Post by BWard Sat May 30, 2015 3:48 pm

Also, that was dumb of Coletti to do.
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Post by f1fan12 Sat May 30, 2015 3:55 pm

This race could be NOLA 2.0!
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sat May 30, 2015 4:04 pm

Crunchy Crunchy Charlie
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Post by BWard Sat May 30, 2015 4:34 pm

Caution after caution after caution...
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Post by navycook75 Sat May 30, 2015 5:26 pm

Woo Munoz
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Post by BWard Sat May 30, 2015 5:26 pm

Race has been called, Carlos Munoz is the winner. 2015 Chevrolet Indy Duel in Detroit - IndyCar Series 4276145973
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Post by Lucstar88 Sat May 30, 2015 5:27 pm

Flippi gets 9th after wrecking during the last yellow lol.
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Post by Alta Sat May 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Alright Carlos Munoz! glad to see him get the W.

Race was a bit smashy but got that green flag run when it mattered. I had fun.


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Post by Sparkz47 Sat May 30, 2015 6:08 pm

Not the worst race ever, but IndyCar as a whole desperately needs to learn how to use local yellows.
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Post by BWard Sat May 30, 2015 6:27 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:Not the worst race ever, but IndyCar as a whole desperately needs to learn how to use local yellows.

I've been thinking about that for a bit now. There was at least 3 debris cautions that should've been kept at local yellows, because if they did the marshals would take a jiffy to get on track, pick it up, retrieve it no problem. Shame we couldn't get any long green flag runs because of it, that really hampered the race quite a lot to me.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sat May 30, 2015 7:22 pm

Well, this race was a bit caution heavy early on, but it was mostly for debris, so yeah, IndyCar really needs to learn how to local yellow.

But the rain strategy was crazy to say the least, and Carlos Munoz snags his first career win by staying out on dry tires longer than everyone else before stopping for his rain tires, and then lightning forced the end of the race, giving him the win.

Race #1 gets a 7.0/10. Let's see what Race #2 brings.
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Post by Milan655 Sat May 30, 2015 7:55 pm

Turned off the TV when Filippi ended up in the barriers only now to find out the race was stopped and he kept his top 10. Fairly happy about that Smile
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Post by Mother of Invention Sat May 30, 2015 8:27 pm

Milan655 wrote:Turned off the TV when Filippi ended up in the barriers only now to find out the race was stopped and he kept his top 10. Fairly happy about that Smile

I guess you missed the bit where Fillippi and Coletti running 3/4 and Eddie Cheever was drooling in the booth over them Razz
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Post by bigdc48 Sat May 30, 2015 8:58 pm

Good race today. Congrats Munoz on the first IndyCar win. And yes. IndyCar needs to learn how to utilize local yellows. Tomorrow should be interesting as well with more rain in the area. I'll give the first race a 6.5/10.
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Post by Cynon Sun May 31, 2015 1:05 am

Seriously, was Michael Andretti the only person who bothered to actually get out from under his umbrella to see if it was raining?! Literally the ENTIRE FIELD barring Munoz, Pagenaud, and Marco looked like idiots (even though Daly had an excuse, being RHR's front end) because it seemed like race engineers just didn't check to see if it was raining or not outside. It was like they collectively said to themselves; "Right, Taku is pitting, it's clearly bone dry, and it's going to rain in 15 minutes... PIT FOR RAIN TIRES NOW."

At least a Honda won the race sponsored by Chevrolet in Chevrolet's backyard... 2015 Chevrolet Indy Duel in Detroit - IndyCar Series 215644238

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I guess you missed the bit where Fillippi and Coletti running 3/4 and Eddie Cheever was drooling in the booth over them Razz

Cheever loves the both of them... and all of the Italian drivers (or drivers of Italian descent) in the field that are not named Andretti. I heard he used to be a part of the Italian F1 coverage because apparently he speaks fluent Italian (having lived in Rome for awhile, well...)

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun May 31, 2015 7:05 am

Cynon wrote:Seriously, was Michael Andretti the only person who bothered to actually get out from under his umbrella to see if it was raining?! Literally the ENTIRE FIELD barring Munoz, Pagenaud, and Marco looked like idiots (even though Daly had an excuse, being RHR's front end) because it seemed like race engineers just didn't check to see if it was raining or not outside. It was like they collectively said to themselves; "Right, Taku is pitting, it's clearly bone dry, and it's going to rain in 15 minutes... PIT FOR RAIN TIRES NOW."

Even then, Michael wanted Marco to pit with Power originally.
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Post by Milan655 Sun May 31, 2015 7:25 am

Cynon wrote:
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Milan655 wrote:Turned off the TV when Filippi ended up in the barriers only now to find out the race was stopped and he kept his top 10. Fairly happy about that Smile

I guess you missed the bit where Fillippi and Coletti running 3/4 and Eddie Cheever was drooling in the booth over them Razz

Cheever loves the both of them... and all of the Italian drivers (or drivers of Italian descent) in the field that are not named Andretti. I heard he used to be a part of the Italian F1 coverage because apparently he speaks fluent Italian (having lived in Rome for awhile, well...)

I did catch Cheever's praise of them Smile And yes, Cheever has been in Italy for some team, his son was born there and started his motorsport career in Italy (through F.Abarth, F.Renault Italia and F3 Italia) and even competes under an Italian racing license.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sun May 31, 2015 4:59 pm

Oh Detroit, how I love your shenanigans.
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Post by Milan655 Sun May 31, 2015 5:03 pm

I knew the moment Luca went to the slicks he'd end up in the wall Sad Connor Daly impressive so far, GP3/2 experience coming in much more handily than Filippi and Coletti's GP2 experience so far.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 5:31 pm

OH MY GOD KIMBALL SERIOUSLY?!??!?!?!?!
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Post by Tanrar Sun May 31, 2015 5:32 pm

Kimball you derp.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 5:39 pm

Jesus Christ come on Karam, quit throwing your brain out the window.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 5:45 pm

Good call by IndyCar to red flag it. GG Vautier.
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Post by Lucstar88 Sun May 31, 2015 5:45 pm

Karam should be parked, cause he ain't learning XD
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun May 31, 2015 5:48 pm

Karam needs to be kicked out of the series. He's more of a joke than Francesco freaking Dracone. Honestly.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 6:01 pm

Fantastic win Bourdais, great job! 2015 Chevrolet Indy Duel in Detroit - IndyCar Series 4276145973
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Post by Lucstar88 Sun May 31, 2015 6:04 pm

Vautier gets 4th!!!
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Post by PackerMan71 Sun May 31, 2015 6:10 pm

The first half was pretty clean, but once the first caution came out, the second half of the race got real crash happy.

Rejects of the Race go to Vautier and Kimball. Getting into a few of the championship contenders was pretty dumb on their parts.

Great work by Bourdais and Sato, and Rahal getting yet another podium, putting himself right into championship contention, and I can't believe I'm saying that. Laughing

Race #2 gets a 6.0/10. Average rating for the weekend: 6.5/10. Not bad, especially since it was a double rain race weekend for Belle Isle.

The bottom might fall out, though, because the next race is at Texas, and we all know how crappy that track is regardless of what series races on it.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 6:15 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:Rejects of the Race go to Vautier and Kimball. Getting into a few of the championship contenders was pretty dumb on their parts.
No offence but I think you forgot Sage Karam, for taking out Jack Hawksworth twice in the same corner, and what's funny is that Hawksworth finished 7th, while Karam was 12th.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sun May 31, 2015 6:24 pm

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PackerMan71 wrote:Rejects of the Race go to Vautier and Kimball. Getting into a few of the championship contenders was pretty dumb on their parts.
No offence but I think you forgot Sage Karam, for taking out Jack Hawksworth twice in the same corner, and what's funny is that Hawksworth finished 7th, while Karam was 12th.

True. Sage was a bit of a wrecking ball this week, wasn't he? Laughing
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Post by Alta Sun May 31, 2015 6:24 pm

That 2nd half of the race was like a moshpit, people bashing into each other and one guy that's in there to kill people (Sage Karam). First half was good.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun May 31, 2015 6:31 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:Rejects of the Race go to Vautier and Kimball. Getting into a few of the championship contenders was pretty dumb on their parts.

I think Vautier deserves to get off the hook for finishing 4th in a Dale Coyne car.
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Post by BWard Sun May 31, 2015 6:40 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:Rejects of the Race go to Vautier and Kimball. Getting into a few of the championship contenders was pretty dumb on their parts.
No offence but I think you forgot Sage Karam, for taking out Jack Hawksworth twice in the same corner, and what's funny is that Hawksworth finished 7th, while Karam was 12th.

True. Sage was a bit of a wrecking ball this week, wasn't he? Laughing

Hmmm, maybe he thought Hawksworth was Sato and was still mad at him for what happened at Indy.
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Post by bigdc48 Sun May 31, 2015 7:05 pm

Great race today. Sage Karam is my reject of the race. The fact that he thought Hawksworth was Sato after Indy was funny, but I expected just a good run out of him and I've lost all respect for that guy, and it wasn't just once he spun him. He better stay away from AJ Foyt if he wants to have no broken bones.

Anyways, great job Bourdais. And yes it was smashy. I'll give race 2 a 7.0/10, averaging a 6.5/10.
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