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According to ESPN's 1994 Brickyard 400's qualifying broadcast, Stock cars did an endurance test at Indianapolis in 1962.
To top this all off, it was in the rain.
To top this all off, it was in the rain.
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In NASCAR's top series, the car #65 has made the least amount of starts, with 97 in total. The last time someone started a race with this car number was with Jerry O'Neil in the October 1993 Charlotte race. The last time a driver attempted a race with this car number was Dan Pardus' ill-fated attempt to qualify for the Daytona 500 in 2000.
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The 1997 Fontana Winston West race was on ABC. Yeah that ABC.
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NASCAR Southwest Series ran on a street course in Los Angleas from 1998-2000. The only footage of the 1998 is from Baywatch.
Mark Martin did not win this race, nor do David Hasslehoff finished 2nd. Both cars retired in 22nd and 23rd respectively, a lap apart.
Mark Martin did not win this race, nor do David Hasslehoff finished 2nd. Both cars retired in 22nd and 23rd respectively, a lap apart.
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I've never watched or read about this race before; it was held the day before I was born. It's cool to know that Kenny Schrader won the last NASCAR race before my existence!Alta wrote:The 1997 Fontana Winston West race was on ABC. Yeah that ABC.
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The Grand Prix of Cleveland, held at Burke Lakefront Airport, was a CART/Champ Car race from 1982 through 2007, but there was a proposal for the race to become an Indy Racing League event beginning in 2000.
If the IRL would have succeeded in its efforts to sanction the race, the historical runway/taxiway course would not have been used. The series wanted to construct a flat, anticlockwise, 1-mile oval into the airport. However, the FAA was uninterested in approving the construction of the oval, citing that it would not provide any benefit for airport operations, and the Mayor of Cleveland eventually dropped support for the IRL.
If the IRL would have succeeded in its efforts to sanction the race, the historical runway/taxiway course would not have been used. The series wanted to construct a flat, anticlockwise, 1-mile oval into the airport. However, the FAA was uninterested in approving the construction of the oval, citing that it would not provide any benefit for airport operations, and the Mayor of Cleveland eventually dropped support for the IRL.
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SpeedDemon37 wrote:The Grand Prix of Cleveland, held at Burke Lakefront Airport, was a CART/Champ Car race from 1982 through 2007, but there was a proposal for the race to become an Indy Racing League event beginning in 2000.
If the IRL would have succeeded in its efforts to sanction the race, the historical runway/taxiway course would not have been used. The series wanted to construct a flat, anticlockwise, 1-mile oval into the airport. However, the FAA was uninterested in approving the construction of the oval, citing that it would not provide any benefit for airport operations, and the Mayor of Cleveland eventually support for the IRL.
The IRL actually had a contract signed for the race, but not long after that happened the entire deal fell through because, as SpeedDemon37 said, the FAA wasn't very supportive and eventually the City of Cleveland (and mayor Michael White) dropped the plan and went back to the CART schedule.
Speaking of the Cleveland Grand Prix, the track really was a downtown circuit, as the airport is between downtown and Lake Erie. The gate of the track was a short walk from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the nearby downtown skyscrapers provided a very cool backdrop. Apparently IndyCar wants to return to Burke Lakefront, so you never know, this could be back on racing calendars.
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With all of the off-season talk about so many historic venues potentially returning to IndyCar (Road America, Phoenix, Laguna Seca, Gateway, Homestead-Miami), I heard little about Cleveland. It actually surprises me to know that there's a lot of local interest in having the race return!Alpineopossum wrote:SpeedDemon37 wrote:The Grand Prix of Cleveland, held at Burke Lakefront Airport, was a CART/Champ Car race from 1982 through 2007, but there was a proposal for the race to become an Indy Racing League event beginning in 2000.
If the IRL would have succeeded in its efforts to sanction the race, the historical runway/taxiway course would not have been used. The series wanted to construct a flat, anticlockwise, 1-mile oval into the airport. However, the FAA was uninterested in approving the construction of the oval, citing that it would not provide any benefit for airport operations, and the Mayor of Cleveland eventually support for the IRL.
The IRL actually had a contract signed for the race, but not long after that happened the entire deal fell through because, as SpeedDemon37 said, the FAA wasn't very supportive and eventually the City of Cleveland (and mayor Michael White) dropped the plan and went back to the CART schedule.
Speaking of the Cleveland Grand Prix, the track really was a downtown circuit, as the airport is between downtown and Lake Erie. The gate of the track was a short walk from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the nearby downtown skyscrapers provided a very cool backdrop. Apparently IndyCar wants to return to Burke Lakefront, so you never know, this could be back on racing calendars.
There's some more information to read (and more cool pictures of CART races) in this article that I found:
http://www.cleveland.com/autoracing/index.ssf/2015/07/racing_interest_hasnt_faded_fo.html
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There's a lot of local interest here. Cleveland has been on the rise in the past few years: there's been a lot of development downtown as well as in several city neighborhoods and there are a few big projects planned for the future, including developing the lakefront near the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Science Center, and Browns Stadium. With all this going on the city has been trying to bring more events to Cleveland - the big one being the Republican Convention which is coming in 2016 - to bring people to town.
And there's a relatively healthy fan base in Cleveland. People remember the race very fondly. Unlike a lot of downtown races, it didn't really interrupt people's lives that much - Burke Lakefront is mostly only used for business jets and small private planes. The race was always well attended and the local media made a very big deal about the event. I think the event would be successful if it was brought back.
By the way a bit of CART history is on display in Cleveland. The Crawford Museum in University Circle in Cleveland has Bobby Rahal's Cleveland Grand Prix-winning March Indycar. It's one of the few cars from the CART era on display that I know of outside the IMS museum. Rahal won the first Cleveland GP in 1982.
And there's a relatively healthy fan base in Cleveland. People remember the race very fondly. Unlike a lot of downtown races, it didn't really interrupt people's lives that much - Burke Lakefront is mostly only used for business jets and small private planes. The race was always well attended and the local media made a very big deal about the event. I think the event would be successful if it was brought back.
By the way a bit of CART history is on display in Cleveland. The Crawford Museum in University Circle in Cleveland has Bobby Rahal's Cleveland Grand Prix-winning March Indycar. It's one of the few cars from the CART era on display that I know of outside the IMS museum. Rahal won the first Cleveland GP in 1982.
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Interesting, that sounds more promising than I realized! (I know that so far it's nothing more than talk, but it'd be great if plans were made for it to return)!
Back on the subject of trivia, the overhaul that drastically shortened the Hockenheimring in 2002 wasn't the first time that proposals were made to change the layout of the circuit. The image below was a change that was proposed in 1983 (although I have found no sources other than this image as to how seriously that the proposal was considered). Unlike the 2002 reconfiguration, most of the long, forested section would have been retained.
And here is an alternate proposal that was made for the 2002 redesign. I'm not sure if I would have preferred this circuit or the current one; I don't think that I really like either one.
Back on the subject of trivia, the overhaul that drastically shortened the Hockenheimring in 2002 wasn't the first time that proposals were made to change the layout of the circuit. The image below was a change that was proposed in 1983 (although I have found no sources other than this image as to how seriously that the proposal was considered). Unlike the 2002 reconfiguration, most of the long, forested section would have been retained.
- 1983 proposal:
And here is an alternate proposal that was made for the 2002 redesign. I'm not sure if I would have preferred this circuit or the current one; I don't think that I really like either one.
- 2002 alternate proposal:
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This isn't really a fact as much as it is a hypothetical, but it's interesting nonetheless.
A lot of critics of the chase in NASCAR have pointed out that an alternative solution (or rather, an effective solution) to putting greater emphasis on winning races is not to implement points resets, but to simply award the race winner far more points than the runner-up finisher.
The 2003 season is often looked at as an example of why consistency, rather than winning, was too important. Matt Kenseth was the actual champion with only 1 win, Jimmie Johnson (3 wins) finished second in points, and Ryan Newman (8 wins, series-best that year) finished in 6th due to having more DNFs than many other contenders. At the time, a win was worth 5 more points than 2nd-place. Had 1st-place been worth 50 more points than 2nd (ten times as much as the difference between 2nd and 3rd), then Kenseth would have been tied with Johnson in points... for second. Newman would have moved up five spots in the championship, beating both Kenseth and Johnson for the title by a total of four points.
Of course, awarding the winner more points wouldn't have always given the winningest driver the title, but in this instance, 2003 would probably not have been able to be exemplified in the argument for the implementation of an extraneous playoff system.
A lot of critics of the chase in NASCAR have pointed out that an alternative solution (or rather, an effective solution) to putting greater emphasis on winning races is not to implement points resets, but to simply award the race winner far more points than the runner-up finisher.
The 2003 season is often looked at as an example of why consistency, rather than winning, was too important. Matt Kenseth was the actual champion with only 1 win, Jimmie Johnson (3 wins) finished second in points, and Ryan Newman (8 wins, series-best that year) finished in 6th due to having more DNFs than many other contenders. At the time, a win was worth 5 more points than 2nd-place. Had 1st-place been worth 50 more points than 2nd (ten times as much as the difference between 2nd and 3rd), then Kenseth would have been tied with Johnson in points... for second. Newman would have moved up five spots in the championship, beating both Kenseth and Johnson for the title by a total of four points.
Of course, awarding the winner more points wouldn't have always given the winningest driver the title, but in this instance, 2003 would probably not have been able to be exemplified in the argument for the implementation of an extraneous playoff system.
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Some facts about the GTLM finish that I found on Reddit
The gap was 0.034 seconds after 24 hours
If an F1 race had the same gap as a percentage of race time, it would be <0.003 seconds at race end.
The gap was 0.00000004% of the total race time
The gap was closer than any Indy 500 ever, including this
Only one Daytona 500 has had a closer finish (2007)
The finish would have been the 18th closest of the 787 electronically timed NASCAR Sprint Cup races.
The gap was 0.034 seconds after 24 hours
If an F1 race had the same gap as a percentage of race time, it would be <0.003 seconds at race end.
The gap was 0.00000004% of the total race time
The gap was closer than any Indy 500 ever, including this
Only one Daytona 500 has had a closer finish (2007)
The finish would have been the 18th closest of the 787 electronically timed NASCAR Sprint Cup races.
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The starting command for the 1992 Daytona 500 was given by Richard Petty, from the driver's seat of car #43.
Jeff Gordon should have done that last year.
Jeff Gordon should have done that last year.
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Johnny Sauters win was the first Daytona truck win for a Chevy and the second on a Superspeedway when Mike Wallace won Talladega in 2011.
Toyota also won seven straight Daytona races ranging from 2007 to 2014 and has won 8 out of the 10 Talladega races.
Toyota also won seven straight Daytona races ranging from 2007 to 2014 and has won 8 out of the 10 Talladega races.
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The start of the new Verizon IndyCar Series season is one week away! Here is some random trivia of some of the sport's legendary racers.
- The driveway to Al Unser, Jr.'s office in Albuquerque, New Mexico is lined with 80 feet of what used to be the turn 3 wall of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This includes fencing poles and cables, a green and yellow caution light, and a USAC observer stand.
- Some fans were observed booing and heckling Emerson Fittipaldi at Indianapolis in 2008 (when he served as the pace car driver), allegedly over him committing the crime of drinking orange juice instead of milk during his Indy 500 victory celebration in 1993, a full 15 years earlier.
- AJ Foyt once had his car experience a radius rod failure during a race, but instead of reporting to the pits, he used one hand to hold the broken rod in place while he used the other hand to continue to drive. Foyt completed the race in this fashion… and also took the victory.
- The driveway to Al Unser, Jr.'s office in Albuquerque, New Mexico is lined with 80 feet of what used to be the turn 3 wall of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This includes fencing poles and cables, a green and yellow caution light, and a USAC observer stand.
- Some fans were observed booing and heckling Emerson Fittipaldi at Indianapolis in 2008 (when he served as the pace car driver), allegedly over him committing the crime of drinking orange juice instead of milk during his Indy 500 victory celebration in 1993, a full 15 years earlier.
- AJ Foyt once had his car experience a radius rod failure during a race, but instead of reporting to the pits, he used one hand to hold the broken rod in place while he used the other hand to continue to drive. Foyt completed the race in this fashion… and also took the victory.
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SpeedDemon37 wrote:- Some fans were observed booing and heckling Emerson Fittipaldi at Indianapolis in 2008 (when he served as the pace car driver), allegedly over him committing the crime of drinking orange juice instead of milk during his Indy 500 victory celebration in 1993, a full 15 years earlier.
Fittipaldi owned some orange groves in his home country of Brazil and wanted to drink orange juice from his orange groves if he won. He did actually take a drink of the milk after the cameras went off, but most people remember him only drinking his orange juice as soon as he got out of the car because that's all they showed on TV.
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As of the completion of the 2016 Auto Club 400, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. has made the same number of NASCAR Sprint Cup Series starts in the #88 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet as he has in the Dale Earnhardt, Inc. #8 Chevrolet. He has started 291 races behind the wheel of each of those cars, and following the 2016 STP 500, he will have run more races in car #88 than he has in car #8.
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After this year's Daytona 500, Denny Hamlin has won at least one race in all of the full-time seasons he has raced in.
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So has Jimmie Johnson.Rovenami wrote:After this year's Daytona 500, Denny Hamlin has won at least one race in all of the full-time seasons he has raced in.
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navycook75 wrote:So has Jimmie Johnson.Rovenami wrote:After this year's Daytona 500, Denny Hamlin has won at least one race in all of the full-time seasons he has raced in.
In fact, Johnson has won at least 2 races in each full-time season he's competed in.
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Cole Custer and Max Verstappen look the same to me or am I just losing my mind?
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The_Wall_91 wrote:Cole Custer and Max Verstappen look the same to me or am I just losing my mind?
Verstappen:
Custer:
Custer's face seems a bit squished, but other than that and a little mark on Verstappen's nose, they kinda do.
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(This might have been posted in this thread before, but I haven't bothered to check. :V)
Adrian Sutil, in his Formula One career, made two appearances at the Circuit of the Americas for the United States GP, yet he never completed a race lap there. On both occasions, he crashed out on the first lap.
Austin Dillon (2014) and Chase Elliott (2016) have both since been added to this list.
Adrian Sutil, in his Formula One career, made two appearances at the Circuit of the Americas for the United States GP, yet he never completed a race lap there. On both occasions, he crashed out on the first lap.
kensethfan wrote:-"Loy Allen, Jr. (1994), Mike Skinner (1997) and Jimmie Johnson (2002) all won the pole for the Daytona 500 in their rookie seasons (Danica Patrick was added to this list with her Daytona 500 pole in 2013)."
Austin Dillon (2014) and Chase Elliott (2016) have both since been added to this list.
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Last race in China was only the 6th time all F1 cars finished the race, below are the other 5 times.
1961 Dutch Grand Prix (15 Cars)
2005 US Grand Prix (6 Cars, I don't want to count this but I am)
2005 Italy Grand Prix (20 Cars)
2011 European Grand Prix (24 Cars)
2015 Japan Grand Prix (20 Cars)
1961 Dutch Grand Prix (15 Cars)
2005 US Grand Prix (6 Cars, I don't want to count this but I am)
2005 Italy Grand Prix (20 Cars)
2011 European Grand Prix (24 Cars)
2015 Japan Grand Prix (20 Cars)
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Michael Schumacher got his first shot in F1 because Bertrand Gachot got arrested for pepper-spraying a cab driver.
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In lieu of the All-Star race this coming weekend, here's a list of drivers who have won the fan vote for this race in past years:
2015 - Danica Patrick
2014 - Josh Wise
2013 - Danica Patrick
2012 - Bobby Labonte
2011 - Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
2010 - Carl Edwards
2009 - Joey Logano
2008 - Kasey Kahne
2007 - Kenny Wallace
2006 - Kyle Petty
2005 - Martin Truex, Jr.
2004 - Ken Schrader
Danica Patrick is the only driver who's won the fan vote more than once. Kasey Kahne won both the fan vote and the All-Star race itself in 2008, and is to date the only driver to have done so.
Nobody has ever won the Sprint Showdown and the All-Star race in the same year, but Michael Waltrip (1996) and Ryan Newman (2002) have both used transfer spots to win the All-Star race.
2015 - Danica Patrick
2014 - Josh Wise
2013 - Danica Patrick
2012 - Bobby Labonte
2011 - Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
2010 - Carl Edwards
2009 - Joey Logano
2008 - Kasey Kahne
2007 - Kenny Wallace
2006 - Kyle Petty
2005 - Martin Truex, Jr.
2004 - Ken Schrader
Danica Patrick is the only driver who's won the fan vote more than once. Kasey Kahne won both the fan vote and the All-Star race itself in 2008, and is to date the only driver to have done so.
Nobody has ever won the Sprint Showdown and the All-Star race in the same year, but Michael Waltrip (1996) and Ryan Newman (2002) have both used transfer spots to win the All-Star race.
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Interesting note, in 2004 Kerry Earnhardt actually won the fan vote, but the rules stated that to be eligible for the fan vote spot, a driver had to finish on the lead lap of the Open, as it was called then. Earnhardt was involved in a multi-car accident on the first lap of the race when second place starter Casey Mears missed a shift at the start. Earnhardt's damage would take him out of the Open, resulting in Schrader's appearance in the All-Star Race.kensethfan wrote:In lieu of the All-Star race this coming weekend, here's a list of drivers who have won the fan vote for this race in past years:
2015 - Danica Patrick
2014 - Josh Wise
2013 - Danica Patrick
2012 - Bobby Labonte
2011 - Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
2010 - Carl Edwards
2009 - Joey Logano
2008 - Kasey Kahne
2007 - Kenny Wallace
2006 - Kyle Petty
2005 - Martin Truex, Jr.
2004 - Ken Schrader
Danica Patrick is the only driver who's won the fan vote more than once. Kasey Kahne won both the fan vote and the All-Star race itself in 2008, and is to date the only driver to have done so.
Nobody has ever won the Sprint Showdown and the All-Star race in the same year, but Michael Waltrip (1996) and Ryan Newman (2002) have both used transfer spots to win the All-Star race.
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Gary Bettenhausen had no use of his left arm (but, apparently, not his hand) after a sprint car crash in Syracuse in 1974. Roger Penske fired him when he was on his hospital bed.
Bettenhausen's last race was the 1996 U.S. 500 (driving a 2 year old car), was the fastest car in the field for the Indy 500 in 1991, and won USAC championships as well. He also finished third in the 500 in 1980 with the car that was on the bubble at the close of Bump Day!
Steve Chassey and Phil Krueger (in the same race, 1988) were the last two drivers to run the Indy 500 as their own chief mechanics. Krueger finished the race in a very credible 8th and got as much attention for his result that race winner Rick Mears did.
The last time a car carrying #79 started the Indy 500, it wound up sitting on top of Nigel Mansell's car in 1994.
Speaking of which, Nigel Mansell still hasn't officially retired.
Bettenhausen's last race was the 1996 U.S. 500 (driving a 2 year old car), was the fastest car in the field for the Indy 500 in 1991, and won USAC championships as well. He also finished third in the 500 in 1980 with the car that was on the bubble at the close of Bump Day!
Steve Chassey and Phil Krueger (in the same race, 1988) were the last two drivers to run the Indy 500 as their own chief mechanics. Krueger finished the race in a very credible 8th and got as much attention for his result that race winner Rick Mears did.
The last time a car carrying #79 started the Indy 500, it wound up sitting on top of Nigel Mansell's car in 1994.
Speaking of which, Nigel Mansell still hasn't officially retired.
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In 2010, Sebastian Saavedra bumped his way in from 35th to 33rd on Indy 500 Bump Day without being at the track. Saavedra had the 33rd fastest speed in qualifying when he crashed his car during a practice session and was sent to the hospital as a precaution. Later on, he was passed by both Tony Kanaan and Takuma Sato, dropping him to 35th. However, when 34th place Jay Howard withdrew his time, Saavedra moved back to 34th. Then, when 33rd place Paul Tracy wanted to stop Howard from running again, he withdrew his time and ran slower than his previous run. This turn of events resulted in Saavedra qualifying for the Indy 500 from Methodist Hospital.
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We're less than 24 hours away from one of the most anticipated races in recent memory. Here's a little more trivia regarding the Indianapolis 500. (I apologize if any of these have already been mentioned; the thread has gotten quite long ).
- 3,200,000 bricks were used to pave Indianapolis Motor Speedway in 1909. It wasn't until the fall of 1961 that the entire track (minus the start/finish line) was paved with asphalt, and at that point, only the middle of the frontstretch had been brick since 1938.
- The 1916 Indianapolis 500 was only 300 miles and 120 laps in length. This was an attempt by the speedway to make the duration of the race more appealing to the fans. The race was returned to its original distance for its next running, in 1919.
- Only twice in history (Dempsey Wilson in 1960 and Ronnie Duman in 1966) has the driver who started in last place also finished in last place. Interestingly enough, the pole-sitter has finished in last place five times.
- Tony Stewart is the only driver to have completed all 1,100 miles of the Indy 500/World 600 double. He accomplished this in 2001, finishing in 6th at Indianapolis and 3rd at Charlotte. He partook in a month-long fitness and dietary program in preparation for the double.
- Louis Meyer, after winning the race in 1933, began the tradition of drinking milk in victory lane at Indianapolis... sort of. Meyer actually drank buttermilk. Meyer would do so again after winning in 1936, and legend has it that a local dairy executive mistakenly thought that he was drinking milk, and proposed that the speedway actually present milk to the winner of the race each year. The tradition has been continuous since 1955.
- 3,200,000 bricks were used to pave Indianapolis Motor Speedway in 1909. It wasn't until the fall of 1961 that the entire track (minus the start/finish line) was paved with asphalt, and at that point, only the middle of the frontstretch had been brick since 1938.
- The 1916 Indianapolis 500 was only 300 miles and 120 laps in length. This was an attempt by the speedway to make the duration of the race more appealing to the fans. The race was returned to its original distance for its next running, in 1919.
- Only twice in history (Dempsey Wilson in 1960 and Ronnie Duman in 1966) has the driver who started in last place also finished in last place. Interestingly enough, the pole-sitter has finished in last place five times.
- Tony Stewart is the only driver to have completed all 1,100 miles of the Indy 500/World 600 double. He accomplished this in 2001, finishing in 6th at Indianapolis and 3rd at Charlotte. He partook in a month-long fitness and dietary program in preparation for the double.
- Louis Meyer, after winning the race in 1933, began the tradition of drinking milk in victory lane at Indianapolis... sort of. Meyer actually drank buttermilk. Meyer would do so again after winning in 1936, and legend has it that a local dairy executive mistakenly thought that he was drinking milk, and proposed that the speedway actually present milk to the winner of the race each year. The tradition has been continuous since 1955.
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Here are some interesting legends of the Indy 500.
In 1913, Jules Goux chugged champagne after each pitstop and was the first to go 500 miles without a replacement driver.
In 1924, WGN Chicago gave the first radio updates of the race.
In 1948, the first, and only, 6 wheeled car to race the 500 finishes 12th.
In 1952, Alberto Ascari drove the only Ferrari to race in the 500.
In 1966, a 2 engined Porsche failed to qualify. Each engine powered each axle.
In 1971, local Dodge dealer Eldon Palmer crashed the Dodge Challenger pace car on the pit lane.
In 1913, Jules Goux chugged champagne after each pitstop and was the first to go 500 miles without a replacement driver.
In 1924, WGN Chicago gave the first radio updates of the race.
In 1948, the first, and only, 6 wheeled car to race the 500 finishes 12th.
In 1952, Alberto Ascari drove the only Ferrari to race in the 500.
In 1966, a 2 engined Porsche failed to qualify. Each engine powered each axle.
In 1971, local Dodge dealer Eldon Palmer crashed the Dodge Challenger pace car on the pit lane.
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A few odd facts from the second running of the Indy 500 in 1912.
Ralph Mulford holds the record for the slowest 500 miles completed at the Indy 500. Mulford completed the race in eight hours and 53 minutes to finish 10th, two and a half hours behind race winner Joe Dawson. Mulford reportedly went to dinner with his riding mechanic during the race and came back to finish.
Ralph DePalma led every lap of the Indy 500 except for the first two and the last two. Front row starter Teddy Tetzlaff led the first two laps before DePalma passed him, and DePalma would hold on to the lead until two laps to go when a connecting rod broke. He finished 11th, one position outside of the prize money.
Race winner Joe Dawson led only two laps, which would end up being the record for fewest laps led by an Indy 500 winner for almost 100 years. Dan Wheldon broke the record in 2011, 99 years later, when he led only the final lap and won.
Ralph Mulford holds the record for the slowest 500 miles completed at the Indy 500. Mulford completed the race in eight hours and 53 minutes to finish 10th, two and a half hours behind race winner Joe Dawson. Mulford reportedly went to dinner with his riding mechanic during the race and came back to finish.
Ralph DePalma led every lap of the Indy 500 except for the first two and the last two. Front row starter Teddy Tetzlaff led the first two laps before DePalma passed him, and DePalma would hold on to the lead until two laps to go when a connecting rod broke. He finished 11th, one position outside of the prize money.
Race winner Joe Dawson led only two laps, which would end up being the record for fewest laps led by an Indy 500 winner for almost 100 years. Dan Wheldon broke the record in 2011, 99 years later, when he led only the final lap and won.
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IIRC, the reason it took him so long was because you wouldn't be scored if you didn't complete the entire race.flyingturns89 wrote:A few odd facts from the second running of the Indy 500 in 1912.
Ralph Mulford holds the record for the slowest 500 miles completed at the Indy 500. Mulford completed the race in eight hours and 53 minutes to finish 10th, two and a half hours behind race winner Joe Dawson. Mulford reportedly went to dinner with his riding mechanic during the race and came back to finish.
Obviously that's changed now.
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With Alexander Rossi's win in the Indy 500, he became only the 3rd driver in the last 50 years to win the Indianapolis 500 on their first attempt.
Also, I believe that 4 drivers in the 500 used to be in F1.
Rossi
Bourdais
Sato
Montoya
Also, I believe that 4 drivers in the 500 used to be in F1.
Rossi
Bourdais
Sato
Montoya
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By my count, there have been 103 points-paying NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races to date that have been settled by a last lap pass.
Here's my list of those races. Please let me know if I've missed one, because I feel like more than likely I have.
Here's my list of those races. Please let me know if I've missed one, because I feel like more than likely I have.
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- No., Date, Site, Winning Driver/Losing Driver
1. 2/15/53, Daytona Beach & Road Course, Bill Blair/Fonty Flock
2. 7/26/53, Lincoln City Fairgrounds, Dick Rathmann/Herb Thomas
3. 9/23/56, Portland Speedway, Lloyd Dane/Curley Barker
4. 11/18/56, Wilson Speedway, Buck Baker/Joe Weatherly
5. 9/15/57, Martinsville Speedway, Buck Baker/Billy Myers
6. 6/29/57, Piedmont Interstate Fairgrounds, Lee Petty/Buck Baker
7. 3/1/59, Occoneechee Speedway, Curtis Turner/Bob Welborn
8. 2/24/61, Daytona International Speedway, Joe Weatherly/Banjo Matthews
9. 9/17/61, Atlanta Motor Speedway, David Pearson/Junior Johnson
10. 11/5/61, Charlotte Motor Speedway, Jack Smith/Joe Weatherly
11. 5/11/63, Darlington Raceway, Joe Weatherly/Junior Johnson
12. 7/4/63, Daytona International Speedway, Fireball Roberts/Fred Lorezen
13. 2/21/64, Daytona International Speedway, Junior Johnson/Buck Baker
14. 2/21/64, Daytona International Speedway, Bobby Isaac/Richard Petty
15. 7/7/64, Daytona International Speedway, A.J. Foyt/Bobby Isaac
16. 7/24/64, Bristol Motor Speedway, Fred Lorenzen/Richard Petty
17. 2/12/65, Daytona International Speedway, Junior Johnson/Fred Lorenzen
18. 2/25/66, Daytona International Speedway, Paul Goldsmith/Richard Petty
19. 2/25/66, Daytona International Speedway, Earl Balmer/Dick Hutcherson
20. 6/12/66, Weaverville Speedway, Richard Petty/David Pearson
21. 7/4/67, Daytona International Speedway, Cale Yarborough/Dick Hutcherson
22. 12/8/68, Montgomery Speedway, Bobby Allison/Richard Petty
23. 2/23/69, Daytona International Speedway, LeeRoy Yarbrough/Charlie Glotzbach
24. 9/1/69, Darlington Raceway, LeeRoy Yarbrough/David Pearson
25. 2/11/71, Daytona International Speedway, Pete Hamilton/A.J. Foyt
26. 10/1/72, North Wilkesboro Speedway, Richard Petty/Bobby Allison
27. 9/23/73, North Wilkesboro Speedway, Bobby Allison/Richard Petty
28. 7/14/74, Bristol Motor Speedway, Cale Yarborough/Buddy Baker
29. 8/11/74, Talladega Superspeedway, Richard Petty/David Pearson
30. 8/24/75, Michigan International Speedway, Richard Petty/David Pearson
31. 2/15/76, Daytona International Speedway, David Pearson/Richard Petty
32. 11/6/77, Atlanta Motor Speedway, Darrell Waltrip/Donnie Allison
33. 5/14/78, Talladega Superspeedway, Cale Yarborough/Buddy Baker
34. 8/20/78, Michigan International Speedway, David Pearson/Darrell Waltrip
35. 2/18/79, Daytona International Speedway, Richard Petty/Donnie Allison
36. 4/8/79, Darlington Raceway, Darrell Waltrip/Richard Petty
37. 8/19/79, Michigan International Speedway, Richard Petty/Buddy Baker
38. 6/8/80, Riverside International Raceway, Darrell Waltrip/Neil Bonnett
39. 5/3/81, Talladega Superspeedway, Bobby Allison/Buddy Baker
40. 7/4/81, Daytona International Speedway, Cale Yarborough/Harry Gant
41. 7/26/81, Pocono Raceway, Darrell Waltrip/Richard Petty
42. 8/2/81, Talladega Superspeedway, Ron Bouchard/Darrell Waltrip
43. 11/8/81, Atlanta Motor Speedway, Neil Bonnett/Darrell Waltrip
44. 5/2/82, Talladega Superspeedway, Darrell Waltrip/Benny Parsons
45. 2/20/83, Daytona International Speedway, Cale Yarborough/Buddy Baker
46. 7/31/83, Talladega Superspeedway, Dale Earnhardt/Darrell Waltrip
47. 2/9/84, Daytona International Speedway, Cale Yarborough/Darrell Waltrip
48. 5/6/84, Talladega Superspeedway, Cale Yarborough/Harry Gant
49. 7/29/84, Talladega Superspeedway, Dale Earnhardt/Terry Labonte
50. 10/21/84, Rockingham Speedway, Bill Elliott/Harry Gant
51. 3/3/85, Rockingham Speedway, Neil Bonnett/Harry Gant
52. 7/20/86, Pocono Raceway, Tim Richmond/Geoff Bodine
53. 3/29/87, Darlington Raceway, Dale Earnhardt/Bill Elliott
54. 9/27/87, Martinsville Speedway, Darrell Waltrip/Dale Earnhardt
55. 7/31/88, Talladega Superspeedway, Ken Schrader/Dale Earnhardt
56. 10/15/89, North Wilkesboro Speedway, Geoff Bodine/Dale Earnhardt
57. 2/18/90, Daytona International Speedway, Derrike Cope/Dale Earnhardt
58. 6/9/91, Sonoma Raceway, Davey Allison/Ricky Rudd
59. 8/18/91, Michigan International Raceway, Dale Jarrett/Davey Allison
60. 2/14/93, Daytona International Speedway, Dale Jarrett/Dale Earnhardt
61. 5/2/93, Talladega Superspeedway, Ernie Irvan/Dale Earnhardt
62. 6/12/94, Pocono Raceway, Rusty Wallace/Dale Earnhardt
63. 7/2/94, Daytona International Speedway, Jimmy Spencer/Ernie Irvan
64. 4/13/97, Bristol Motor Speedway, Jeff Gordon/Rusty Wallace
65. 8/28/99, Bristol Motor Speedway, Dale Earnhardt/Terry Labonte
66. 6/19/00, Pocono Raceway, Jeremy Mayfield/Dale Earnhardt
67. 7/23/00, Pocono Raceway, Rusty Wallace/Jeremy Mayfield
68. 6/10/01, Michigan International Speedway, Jeff Gordon/Ricky Rudd
69. 10/21/01, Talladega Superspeedway, Dale Earnhardt, Jr./Bobby Labonte
70. 11/18/01, Atlanta Motor Speedway, Bobby Labonte/Jerry Nadeau
71. 3/16/03, Darlington Raceway, Ricky Craven/Kurt Busch
72. 11/16/03, Homestead-Miami Speedway, Bobby Labonte/Bill Elliott
73. 3/20/05, Atlanta Motor Speedway, Carl Edwards/Jimmie Johnson
74. 5/29/05, Charlotte Motor Speedway, Jimmie Johnson/Bobby Labonte
75. 10/2/05, Talladega Superspeedway, Dale Jarrett/Tony Stewart
76. 3/12/06, Las Vegas Motor Speedway, Jimmie Johnson/Matt Kenseth
77. 10/8/06, Talladega Superspeedway, Brian Vickers/Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
78. 2/18/07, Daytona International Speedway, Kevin Harvick/Mark Martin
79. 4/15/07, Texas Motor Speedway, Jeff Burton/Matt Kenseth
80. 7/7/07, Daytona International Speedway, Jamie McMurray/Kyle Busch
81. 10/7/07, Talladega Superspeedway, Jeff Gordon/Jimmie Johnson
82. 2/17/08, Daytona International Speedway, Ryan Newman/Tony Stewart
83. 4/26/09, Talladega Superspeedway, Brad Keselowski/Carl Edwards
84. 6/14/09, Michigan International Speedway, Mark Martin/Greg Biffle
85. 7/4/09, Daytona International Speedway, Tony Stewart/Kyle Busch
86. 4/25/10, Talladega Superspeedway, Kevin Harvick/Jamie McMurray
87. 3/27/11, Auto Club Speedway, Kevin Harvick/Jimmie Johnson
88. 4/17/11, Talladega Superspeedway, Jimmie Johnson/Jeff Gordon
89. 5/29/11, Charlotte Motor Speedway, Kevin Harvick/Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
90. 10/23/11, Talladega Superspeedway, Clint Bowyer/Jeff Burton
91. 7/7/12, Daytona International Speedway, Tony Stewart/Matt Kenseth
92. 8/12/12, Watkins Glen International, Marcos Ambrose/Kyle Busch
93. 10/7/12, Talladega Superspeedway, Matt Kenseth/Tony Stewart
94. 3/24/13, Auto Club Speedway, Kyle Busch/Joey Logano
95. 5/5/13, Talladega Superspeedway, David Ragan/Carl Edwards
96. 3/23/14, Auto Club Speedway, Kyle Busch/Kurt Busch
97. 4/7/14, Texas Motor Speedway, Joey Logano/Jeff Gordon
98. 10/19/14, Talladega Superspeedway, Brad Keselowski/Ryan Newman
99. 3/22/15, Auto Club Speedway, Brad Keselowski/Kurt Busch
100. 8/2/15, Pocono Raceway, Matt Kenseth/Kyle Busch
101. 8/9/15, Watkins Glen International, Joey Logano/Kevin Harvick
102. 2/21/16, Daytona International Speedway, Denny Hamlin/Matt Kenseth
103. 4/24/16, Richmond International Raceway, Carl Edwards/Kyle Busch
Sources: NASCAR: The Complete History, Racing-reference.info
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At one of the first NASCAR races at Pocono, James Hylton took a dare to run his qualifying lap at a blistering 45 miles per hour. NASCAR was slightly less amused. He got fined about 500 bucks.
And how has no one mentioned this moment yet?
And how has no one mentioned this moment yet?
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Only 3 rookies have gotten a top 10 finish on their debut at Sonoma.
Juan Pablo Montoya
Kenny Irwin
Ryan Newman
Juan Pablo Montoya
Kenny Irwin
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In 1980, USAC and CART joined together in a short-lived co-sanctioning union known as the Championship Racing League. The season was to consist of the races that were initially scheduled for each individual league before the agreement between them to co-sanction all of the races as the CRL.
This union, however, dissolved after only five races. USAC declared those five races to be the complete 1980 USAC season and cancelled the remaining races that it was scheduled to hold before the union agreement was announced. Those first five races were also considered to be the first five of the 1980 CART season, which continued for the remaining seven events that CART was scheduled to hold prior to the union agreement.
Johnny Rutherford, the points leader of the CRL following race 5 (at Mid-Ohio) was declared the USAC champion. Rutherford also went on to win the CART championship at the end of the year.
Among the scheduled races that USAC did not run was one at Talladega, which was to be run less than six weeks after the dissolution of the CRL.
This union, however, dissolved after only five races. USAC declared those five races to be the complete 1980 USAC season and cancelled the remaining races that it was scheduled to hold before the union agreement was announced. Those first five races were also considered to be the first five of the 1980 CART season, which continued for the remaining seven events that CART was scheduled to hold prior to the union agreement.
Johnny Rutherford, the points leader of the CRL following race 5 (at Mid-Ohio) was declared the USAC champion. Rutherford also went on to win the CART championship at the end of the year.
Among the scheduled races that USAC did not run was one at Talladega, which was to be run less than six weeks after the dissolution of the CRL.
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Fun fact of the day: Conor Daly has led more laps (56) in IndyCar this year than any other Honda driver.
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Fun facts from Chris Buescher's highly improbable win Monday:
-He is the first Texan to win a Cup series race since Terry Labonte won the 2003 Southern 500 (and the first in any NASCAR series since his brother James won the 2013 Iowa truck race)
- The first ROTY contender to win a race since Joey Logano's rainy victory at Loudon in 2009 (Trevor Bayne, running a partial schedule, was ineligible)
- Regan Smith's also-incredible 3rd was the highest finish in Tommy Baldwin Racing's history.
Oh, and Buscher has more wins than Jack Roush, Chip Ginassi and Richard Childress do as owners in a combined TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO RACES.
-He is the first Texan to win a Cup series race since Terry Labonte won the 2003 Southern 500 (and the first in any NASCAR series since his brother James won the 2013 Iowa truck race)
- The first ROTY contender to win a race since Joey Logano's rainy victory at Loudon in 2009 (Trevor Bayne, running a partial schedule, was ineligible)
- Regan Smith's also-incredible 3rd was the highest finish in Tommy Baldwin Racing's history.
Oh, and Buscher has more wins than Jack Roush, Chip Ginassi and Richard Childress do as owners in a combined TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO RACES.
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PRAWBLEMS wrote:Fun facts from Chris Buescher's highly improbable win Monday:
-He is the first Texan to win a Cup series race since Bobby Labonte won the 2003 race at Homestead (and the first in any NASCAR series since his brother James won the 2013 Iowa truck race)
Fixed.
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Did you know that Dave Blaney has one NASCAR win, 2006 Dollar General 300, so if you're as big as a (Dave) Blaniac as me just something you can have to be proud of
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I estimated in a post in the thread for the 2016 IndyCar 500-miler at Pocono that Ryan Hunter-Reay had probably made about 30 passes for position on-track while working from the back of the field to the front twice en route to a third-place finish.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 65 cars over the course of the race.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 65 cars over the course of the race.
Last edited by SpeedDemon37 on Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:33 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Corrected an error; RHR passed 65 cars, not 63.)
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SpeedDemon37 wrote:I estimated in a post in the thread for the 2016 IndyCar 500-miler at Pocono that Ryan Hunter-Reay had probably made about 30 passes for position on-track while working from the back of the field to the front twice en route to a third-place finish.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 63 cars over the course of the race.
He almost passed the entire field 3 times over. 22 cars times 3 is 66.
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Sorry, my initial post was incorrect; RHR actually passed 65 cars!navycook75 wrote:SpeedDemon37 wrote:I estimated in a post in the thread for the 2016 IndyCar 500-miler at Pocono that Ryan Hunter-Reay had probably made about 30 passes for position on-track while working from the back of the field to the front twice en route to a third-place finish.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 63 cars over the course of the race.
He almost passed the entire field 3 times over. 22 cars times 3 is 66.
And considering that he was one of the 22 cars, he had only 21 opponents, which means that he did pass the field more than three times over!
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You're incorrect, I'm incorrect, we're all incorrect!SpeedDemon37 wrote:Sorry, my initial post was incorrect; RHR actually passed 65 cars!navycook75 wrote:SpeedDemon37 wrote:I estimated in a post in the thread for the 2016 IndyCar 500-miler at Pocono that Ryan Hunter-Reay had probably made about 30 passes for position on-track while working from the back of the field to the front twice en route to a third-place finish.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 63 cars over the course of the race.
He almost passed the entire field 3 times over. 22 cars times 3 is 66.
And considering that he was one of the 22 cars, he had only 21 opponents, which means that he did pass the field more than three times over!
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Also, I also forgot to consider... never mind.navycook75 wrote:You're incorrect, I'm incorrect, we're all incorrect!SpeedDemon37 wrote:Sorry, my initial post was incorrect; RHR actually passed 65 cars!navycook75 wrote:SpeedDemon37 wrote:I estimated in a post in the thread for the 2016 IndyCar 500-miler at Pocono that Ryan Hunter-Reay had probably made about 30 passes for position on-track while working from the back of the field to the front twice en route to a third-place finish.
It turns out that I was slightly off; he actually passed 63 cars over the course of the race.
He almost passed the entire field 3 times over. 22 cars times 3 is 66.
And considering that he was one of the 22 cars, he had only 21 opponents, which means that he did pass the field more than three times over!
A little more IndyCar trivia:
- For those who didn't watch the Firestone 600 last weekend, the margin of victory between winner Graham Rahal and runner-up James Hinchcliffe was the eighth in AAA/USAC/CART/IndyCar history to be shorter than 0.01 seconds. At 0.008, it was the fifth-shortest in history (I know that AAA never had electronic timing and scoring).
- Of those eight closest finishes, Sam Hornish, Jr. was the winner of three (including at Chicagoland Speedway in 2002; the closest of all-time).
- This means that Hornish won those three races by a collective margin of victory of 0.0219 seconds!
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Here's a gift for our Spanish-fluent friends: Eliseo Salazar, not a man most associated with comedy, hosted the Chilean version of "America's Funniest Home Videos" for four years:
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PRAWBLEMS wrote:Here's a gift for our Spanish-fluent friends: Eliseo Salazar, not a man most associated with comedy, hosted the Chilean version of "America's Funniest Home Videos" for four years:
I dunno, his boxing match with Nelson Piquet was pretty funny.
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