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Post by gwoodard41 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:51 pm

Sales Rankings (North America) - Included associated brands in total Primary sales.
1. Saar/Tremwell
2. Inglesby/Juneau
3. Lenard/Sellick (Dropped as of 2012)/Fortner (Bought and Folded in 2011)
4. Nemoto
5. Gessler
6. Calton-Morel
7. Speidel
8. Lycoia/Aura
9. Tonare (Sorry BurningThunder :p)
10. STS/Corsa
11. Xenos
12. Gasnier
13. TTE

I may be missing a few but this is a theorized listing of sales rankings in North America only, I don't know if I would do a world wide list because this list may be extremely wrong on several counts.

I would have included others such as Omecha, Katzev, Volpi, Wernstrom, and Matthews, but they are either privateer chassis or there are no records of sales in North America to my knowledge.

What do you think? (And for those who own the actual manus, do you believe the listing is fitting, or am I overstepping bounds?)


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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by navycook75 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:55 pm

good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.
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Post by f1fan12 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:57 pm

ERRGH, SAAR'S ON TOP Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by NeverNeutral on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:05 pm

I believe Tutino is a privateer chassis.
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Post by RyanB06 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:06 pm

Volpi does make a street car, the SR 560. So they should be on the list somewhere.

I think Speidel should count...I think they ran in ARLA in either 2009 or 2010. I'd also consider dropping Duncan (the GT10 is a racing-specific car, IIRC).
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by gwoodard41 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:06 pm

navycook75 wrote:good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.

I'm making it slightly realistic, can you imagine if Lycoia was number 1? I don't think the 'big three' would like that, NOT ONE BIT.

f1fan12 wrote:ERRGH, SAAR'S ON TOP Evil or Very Mad

You Mad Bor?

Yeah, it's on top because that's what TM Pedia has for Saar.

The Saar Motor Company, commonly referred to as Saar, is an American automobile manufacturer that fields cars in the TM Master Cup Series, the TM Lights Series, ARLA, the ASCC, and the Vaughn Stock Car Championship. In addition, it provides engine support for teams in Formula Overdrive and in the Continental Racing League Modified Division. It is the largest automobile manufacturer in the United States.

NeverNeutral wrote:I believe Tutino is a privateer chassis.

Fixed.

RyanB06 wrote:Volpi does make a street car, the SR 560. So they should be on the list somewhere.

I think Speidel should count...I think they ran in ARLA in either 2009 or 2010. I'd also consider dropping Duncan (the GT10 is a racing-specific car, IIRC).

From what I know, Volpi is only sold in Europe, but I may be wrong with that.

Duncan dropped, Speidel added.


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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by Cynon on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:08 pm

Japanese and German cars should definitely be on top.

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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by gwoodard41 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:14 pm

Cynon wrote:Japanese and German cars should definitely be on top.

Fixed.
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by f1fan12 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:26 pm

gwoodard41 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.

I'm making it slightly realistic, can you imagine if Lycoia was number 1? I don't think the 'big three' would like that, NOT ONE BIT.

f1fan12 wrote:ERRGH, SAAR'S ON TOP Evil or Very Mad

You Mad Bor?

Yeah, it's on top because that's what TM Pedia has for Saar.

The Saar Motor Company, commonly referred to as Saar, is an American automobile manufacturer that fields cars in the TM Master Cup Series, the TM Lights Series, ARLA, the ASCC, and the Vaughn Stock Car Championship. In addition, it provides engine support for teams in Formula Overdrive and in the Continental Racing League Modified Division. It is the largest automobile manufacturer in the United States.

I just don't like Saar, mainly cause Team Saar USA, however the Eagle does look nice...
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:56 pm

Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.
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Post by Syzygy on Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:16 pm

Tonare actually fits where it is on the chart, considering it's somewhat based off of a mix of Tesla and Pontiac as the backstory Laughing

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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by gwoodard41 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:56 am

Nascarboy426 wrote:Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.

Sorry Sad

Seems it was removed by Cynon.
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Post by Rykia on Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:02 pm

I thought the official name of the Tutino was the Casari CS4 or something like that.
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by Vincent Giacalone on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:06 am

gwoodard41 wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.

Sorry Sad

Seems it was removed by Cynon.

It's fine.
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:36 am

gwoodard41 wrote:I would have included others such as Omecha, Katzev, Volpi, Wernstrom, and Matthews, but they are either privateer chassis or there are no records of sales in North America to my knowledge.

Wernström have few sales in North America, the whole reason behind them entering the TMMC is to boost that. They'd be 14th at best.
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by Pyrozooka0 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?

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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by NeverNeutral on Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:54 pm

Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
  • I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
  • I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
  • Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
  • Not Sure about Optic/Seige
  • Karl's doesn't make road cars
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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by Pyrozooka0 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:22 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:
Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
  • I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
  • I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
  • Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
  • Not Sure about Optic/Seige
  • Karl's doesn't make road cars

I messed up with EFR and Kivett, but I'm pretty sure Karl's road cars are mentioned during the 2010 Daytona 200 video. (Ceej says they aren't very good), and they allegedly have the weird taillight stickers due to the "road cars being hatchbacks"

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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by RyanB06 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:28 pm

Kivetts are sold in the US, I think. Kinda like how GM has Chevy in the US, Vauxhall in the UK, Opel in Europe, and Holden in Australia.
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Post by Pyrozooka0 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:37 pm

RyanB06 wrote:Kivetts are sold in the US, I think. Kinda like how GM has Chevy in the US, Vauxhall in the UK, Opel in Europe, and Holden in Australia.



Good point. I officially retract my retraction of Kivett being missing.

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Re: Sales Rankings!

Post by gwoodard41 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:00 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:
Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
  • I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
  • I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
  • Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
  • Not Sure about Optic/Seige
  • Karl's doesn't make road cars

1. I went by manufacturers I found on TMPedia, if it wasn't on there, I was most likely going to miss it Razz
2. Yep, privateer only.
3. Actually, Volpi only has road models in Europe, though it wouldn't be out of the question that Kivett would be the American version of Volpi (Like how Holden is essentially Chevrolet/Pontiac's international variant.)
4. Never heard of either one, so they aren't on there.
5. As far as my knowledge goes, that seems to be the case, even still, the sales figures probably would be worse than TTE if they are as bad as they say. If anyone with the power wants to add them and their theorized position, go ahead.
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Post by Pyrozooka0 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 pm

The Karl Inc cars aren't as bad as TTE, just not very good. At least, thats how I interpreted it.

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