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Sales Rankings!
by gwoodard41 Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:51 pm
Sales Rankings (North America) - Included associated brands in total Primary sales.
1. Saar/Tremwell
2. Inglesby/Juneau
3. Lenard/Sellick (Dropped as of 2012)/Fortner (Bought and Folded in 2011)
4. Nemoto
5. Gessler
6. Calton-Morel
7. Speidel
8. Lycoia/Aura
9. Tonare (Sorry BurningThunder :p)
10. STS/Corsa
11. Xenos
12. Gasnier
13. TTE
I may be missing a few but this is a theorized listing of sales rankings in North America only, I don't know if I would do a world wide list because this list may be extremely wrong on several counts.
I would have included others such as Omecha, Katzev, Volpi, Wernstrom, and Matthews, but they are either privateer chassis or there are no records of sales in North America to my knowledge.
What do you think? (And for those who own the actual manus, do you believe the listing is fitting, or am I overstepping bounds?)
1. Saar/Tremwell
2. Inglesby/Juneau
3. Lenard/Sellick (Dropped as of 2012)/Fortner (Bought and Folded in 2011)
4. Nemoto
5. Gessler
6. Calton-Morel
7. Speidel
8. Lycoia/Aura
9. Tonare (Sorry BurningThunder :p)
10. STS/Corsa
11. Xenos
12. Gasnier
13. TTE
I may be missing a few but this is a theorized listing of sales rankings in North America only, I don't know if I would do a world wide list because this list may be extremely wrong on several counts.
I would have included others such as Omecha, Katzev, Volpi, Wernstrom, and Matthews, but they are either privateer chassis or there are no records of sales in North America to my knowledge.
What do you think? (And for those who own the actual manus, do you believe the listing is fitting, or am I overstepping bounds?)
Last edited by Cynon on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:25 am; edited 4 times in total (Reason for editing : Took off the nonexistant cars)
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by navycook75 Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:55 pm
good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by RyanB06 Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:06 pm
Volpi does make a street car, the SR 560. So they should be on the list somewhere.
I think Speidel should count...I think they ran in ARLA in either 2009 or 2010. I'd also consider dropping Duncan (the GT10 is a racing-specific car, IIRC).
I think Speidel should count...I think they ran in ARLA in either 2009 or 2010. I'd also consider dropping Duncan (the GT10 is a racing-specific car, IIRC).
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by gwoodard41 Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:06 pm
navycook75 wrote:good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.
I'm making it slightly realistic, can you imagine if Lycoia was number 1? I don't think the 'big three' would like that, NOT ONE BIT.
f1fan12 wrote:ERRGH, SAAR'S ON TOP
You Mad Bor?
Yeah, it's on top because that's what TM Pedia has for Saar.
The Saar Motor Company, commonly referred to as Saar, is an American automobile manufacturer that fields cars in the TM Master Cup Series, the TM Lights Series, ARLA, the ASCC, and the Vaughn Stock Car Championship. In addition, it provides engine support for teams in Formula Overdrive and in the Continental Racing League Modified Division. It is the largest automobile manufacturer in the United States.
NeverNeutral wrote:I believe Tutino is a privateer chassis.
Fixed.
RyanB06 wrote:Volpi does make a street car, the SR 560. So they should be on the list somewhere.
I think Speidel should count...I think they ran in ARLA in either 2009 or 2010. I'd also consider dropping Duncan (the GT10 is a racing-specific car, IIRC).
From what I know, Volpi is only sold in Europe, but I may be wrong with that.
Duncan dropped, Speidel added.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Cynon Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:08 pm
Japanese and German cars should definitely be on top.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by gwoodard41 Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:14 pm
Cynon wrote:Japanese and German cars should definitely be on top.
Fixed.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by f1fan12 Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:26 pm
gwoodard41 wrote:navycook75 wrote:good guy Woodard, makes a Canon sales ranking topic, doesn't make Lycoia #1.
I'm making it slightly realistic, can you imagine if Lycoia was number 1? I don't think the 'big three' would like that, NOT ONE BIT.f1fan12 wrote:ERRGH, SAAR'S ON TOP
You Mad Bor?
Yeah, it's on top because that's what TM Pedia has for Saar.The Saar Motor Company, commonly referred to as Saar, is an American automobile manufacturer that fields cars in the TM Master Cup Series, the TM Lights Series, ARLA, the ASCC, and the Vaughn Stock Car Championship. In addition, it provides engine support for teams in Formula Overdrive and in the Continental Racing League Modified Division. It is the largest automobile manufacturer in the United States.
I just don't like Saar, mainly cause Team Saar USA, however the Eagle does look nice...
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Vincent Giacalone Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:56 pm
Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Syzygy Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:16 pm
Tonare actually fits where it is on the chart, considering it's somewhat based off of a mix of Tesla and Pontiac as the backstory 
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by gwoodard41 Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:56 am
Nascarboy426 wrote:Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.
Sorry
Seems it was removed by Cynon.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Rykia Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:02 pm
I thought the official name of the Tutino was the Casari CS4 or something like that.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Vincent Giacalone Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:06 am
gwoodard41 wrote:Nascarboy426 wrote:Mueller has very little sales in North America. Doubt they'd even be 14th on the list.
Sorry
Seems it was removed by Cynon.
It's fine.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:36 am
gwoodard41 wrote:I would have included others such as Omecha, Katzev, Volpi, Wernstrom, and Matthews, but they are either privateer chassis or there are no records of sales in North America to my knowledge.
Wernström have few sales in North America, the whole reason behind them entering the TMMC is to boost that. They'd be 14th at best.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Pyrozooka0 Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:49 pm
Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Backmarker Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:54 pm
Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
- I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
- I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
- Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
- Not Sure about Optic/Seige
- Karl's doesn't make road cars
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Pyrozooka0 Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:22 pm
NeverNeutral wrote:Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
- I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
- I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
- Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
- Not Sure about Optic/Seige
- Karl's doesn't make road cars
I messed up with EFR and Kivett, but I'm pretty sure Karl's road cars are mentioned during the 2010 Daytona 200 video. (Ceej says they aren't very good), and they allegedly have the weird taillight stickers due to the "road cars being hatchbacks"
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by RyanB06 Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:28 pm
Kivetts are sold in the US, I think. Kinda like how GM has Chevy in the US, Vauxhall in the UK, Opel in Europe, and Holden in Australia.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Pyrozooka0 Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:37 pm
RyanB06 wrote:Kivetts are sold in the US, I think. Kinda like how GM has Chevy in the US, Vauxhall in the UK, Opel in Europe, and Holden in Australia.
Good point. I officially retract my retraction of Kivett being missing.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by gwoodard41 Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:00 pm
NeverNeutral wrote:Pyrozooka0 wrote:Where the heck are Genesis ( electric car company that had cars in ARLA from 2009 to 2011), EFR, (makes the Journey and is a reference to this forum of pure awesome), Kivett, (Spade) , Optic, (Seige, or is it the other way around?), and Karl Inc. (Revolution and Pioneer?
- I think Woodard just forgot Genesis
- I believe EFR is a privateer chassis
- Kivett isn't sold in America, like Volpi
- Not Sure about Optic/Seige
- Karl's doesn't make road cars
1. I went by manufacturers I found on TMPedia, if it wasn't on there, I was most likely going to miss it
2. Yep, privateer only.
3. Actually, Volpi only has road models in Europe, though it wouldn't be out of the question that Kivett would be the American version of Volpi (Like how Holden is essentially Chevrolet/Pontiac's international variant.)
4. Never heard of either one, so they aren't on there.
5. As far as my knowledge goes, that seems to be the case, even still, the sales figures probably would be worse than TTE if they are as bad as they say. If anyone with the power wants to add them and their theorized position, go ahead.
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Re: Sales Rankings!
by Pyrozooka0 Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 pm
The Karl Inc cars aren't as bad as TTE, just not very good. At least, thats how I interpreted it.
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