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Post by PKligBKFan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:10 am

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- NASCAR points leader Matt Kenseth is leaving Roush Fenway Racing at the end of the season, and Ricky Stenhouse Jr. will be promoted to his seat in the Sprint Cup Series.

There was widespread speculation last weekend at Sonoma that Kenseth was leaving to join Joe Gibbs Racing, but Kenseth declined before Sunday's race to discuss his future with the organization he has been with for all but one of his 452 career starts.

Roush announced Tuesday that Kenseth is moving on at the end of the year, without disclosing a reason.

"I'd like to thank Matt Kenseth for his many years of loyal service," team co-owner Jack Roush said in a statement. "Matt has been an integral part of this organization for well over a decade, and we are extremely appreciative of his accomplishments and contributions to the team, and will always consider him a part of the Roush Fenway family."

It appears Kenseth is headed to JGR for either Joey Logano's seat in the No. 20 Toyota, or a fourth car. Team president J.D. Gibbs did not respond to a request for a comment Tuesday morning, and said at Sonoma he could not talk about Kenseth.

Either way, it will be a tremendous change for Kenseth, who has been in the No. 17 Ford his entire career. Kenseth has won 22 Cup races, including two Daytona 500s, and the 2003 championship driving for Roush. In the Nationwide Series, Kenseth has won 26 races driving for Roush.

His relationship with owner Jack Roush and current general manager Robbie Reiser dates to 1997, when Kenseth first drove Reiser's No. 17 entry. Reiser then became Kenseth's crew chief at Roush in 2000, Kenseth's rookie season.

"Matt and I broke into this sport together, learned the ropes and were able to bring home a championship," said Reiser. "Over the 20 years we have worked with each other, Matt has been a fierce competitor and become a close friend, not only for me, but as a mentor to young drivers like Ricky. I wish Matt nothing but the best for the next phase of his career, and know that we'll remain close."

Kenseth's car has had sponsorship woes the last few years, and Roush is funding a large portion of this year's schedule himself for the 40-year-old Kenseth. The organization dropped David Ragan and its fourth team because of a lack of sponsorship at the end of last season, and also ponied up significant money to re-sign Carl Edwards last season. Roush also signed Greg Biffle to a contract extension last season.

But the team desperately needs a slot for the 24-year-old Stenhouse, who is locked into a long-term contract but has nowhere to go in Roush's Cup lineup. The organization has a similar problem with 2011 Daytona 500 winner Trevor Bayne, who is also in a long-term contract and had his Nationwide Series team shuttered earlier this season because of no funding.

Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

"We feel that he is not only a key piece of our team's future, but a key piece of the future of the sport," Roush said of Stenhouse. "Roush Fenway is an organization with a wonderful past and present, as well as an extremely promising future, and I can't think of a better candidate than Ricky to usher in the next era of success for the team."

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This is huge news. I cannot believe Kenseth is actually leaving. I figured Kenseth would be with RFR his entire career. Speculation is Kenseth goes to JGR, either taking Logano's spot or a fourth team. If he goes to JGR, it'll look weird seeing Kenseth driving a Toyota...
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:18 am

I know it's going to be weird seing Matt in anything but a Blue Oval, But hey! My two favorite drivers are now possibly teammates Very Happy
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Toblerone on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:20 am

I think its great he can move on and find something new...but I dont know where. As for the Ricky Stenhouse part, I guess he deserves a shot in a cup car by now.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by JMac525 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:24 am

Wow, this is very surprising news. After watching only Matt drive the #17 since I first started watching it's going to be bizarre.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by BWard on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:26 am

Well he has been at that team for quite a long time, but then again look at how long Jeff Gordon has been at Hendrick Motorsports now (20 years I think).
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:56 am

Please go to the 20, please go to the 20,please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20, please go to the 20.
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:07 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

WELL, GEE. Rolling Eyes

I was saddened to hear this, because 1) one of the only remaining long-standing team-driver relationships in the series is gone, and 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Blake Camphausen on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:30 pm

Am I the only one who hopes he goes to JGR and takes the 18 seat away from Krylie Busch?
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Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:31 pm

Blake Camphausen wrote:Am I the only one who hopes he goes to JGR and takes the 18 seat away from Krylie Busch?

yes.


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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by PKligBKFan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:32 pm

Nascarboy426 wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

WELL, GEE. Rolling Eyes

I was saddened to hear this, because 1) one of the only remaining long-standing team-driver relationships in the series is gone, and 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

Wouldn't shock me if Stenhouse races the 6 and the 17 isn't used.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by BWard on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Apparently, Kenseth may not just be looking at Logano's 20 car next year. There may be a possibility that he could take over the 39 car from Ryan Newman as well.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:46 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:Apparently, Kenseth may not just be looking at Logano's 20 car next year. There may be a possibility that he could take over the 39 car from Ryan Newman as well.
At least Newman gets a yearly win. Took Logano 3 years to win something. Kenseth should set his eyes on that 20 car, Could actually bring it back to the level Stewart had it at.

If Roush equipment stays good expect Stenhouse to do average, If they falter expect Stenhouse to have the highest repair bill on the year.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by AntmanB on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:58 pm

well, Stenhouse Will win 2013 roty honors......................
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Post by SpeedDemon37 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:02 pm

Dangit! First Martin snd now Kenseth! I don't enjoy watching my favorite drivers drive Toyotas.
Anyways, I'm rather surprised. It'll be wierd watching him drive a car that's not Roush's 17 Ford.
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Post by oxymoron on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:23 pm

AntmanB wrote:well, Stenhouse Will win 2013 roty honors......................

if childress doesn't bring up dillon (he probably won't anyway), then hes got it in the bag.

who's going to challenge him?
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:02 pm

Wow. I didn't see this coming.

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Post by day500champ1 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:20 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:Wow. I didn't see this coming.

You're not the only one.

If he goes to JGR, they will go to a fourth. Despite what people want JGR is more than likely keeping Joey. Although, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move to Stewart-Haas.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Mystrsyko on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:46 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Kenseth is going to struggle to find a ride somewhere like all the other guys who lost their rides to "development" drivers?
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by flyingturns89 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:54 pm

From what I've heard, Penske might be Kenseth's new home in the #22.
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Post by crl on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:56 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kenseth is going to struggle to find a ride somewhere like all the other guys who lost their rides to "development" drivers?

The last guy who won a Cup title under a real points system, and a two-time Daytona 500 winner, including the most recent one, having trouble finding a ride with a top team?

Yeah, right.

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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:11 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:From what I've heard, Penske might be Kenseth's new home in the #22.
Doesn't Allmendinger have more than a year contract?
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Post by bartman97 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:19 pm

I mean, Ricky Stenhouse actually does have potential, but he's been having some terrible luck in the #6 car in Nationwide lately. I would have rather them take out Greg Biffle instead of Kenseth. Kenseth is the better driver out of the 2. I hope Gibbs does the smart thing and kick out LOLgano and put Kenseth in.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by flyingturns89 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:22 pm

Alta wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:From what I've heard, Penske might be Kenseth's new home in the #22.
Doesn't Allmendinger have more than a year contract?

No, it was just a one year deal.
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Post by ParaLanche on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:04 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:
Alta wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:From what I've heard, Penske might be Kenseth's new home in the #22.
Doesn't Allmendinger have more than a year contract?

No, it was just a one year deal.
Dat #22 changes drivers more than my mom changes underwear.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:18 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:
Alta wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:From what I've heard, Penske might be Kenseth's new home in the #22.
Doesn't Allmendinger have more than a year contract?

No, it was just a one year deal.
If Allemendinger gets canned and Logano keeps a ride. I will be seriously pissed off.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Cynon on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:34 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

Stenhouse has money. Roush needs money for Cup. See where this pairing works?

Nascarboy426 wrote: 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

It'll be the 6. Roush would probably prefer the 6 over the 17.

If Allmendinger gets shafted for Kenseth it'll be understandable (since Kenseth is one of the best drivers in NASCAR) but tragic, because there are much crappier drivers in Cup (Logano, Ragan, Logano) or that have outlived their presence on the grid at the top level of stock cars (Kvapil, Reutimann, Labonte, Burton), whereas guys with potential and speed (Allmendinger, Smith) are stuck with bad cars.

Allmendinger and Keselowski are probably going to spend the rest of this year preparing for next year, and then next year they'll be stuck as the number two team to Roush, essentially filling the space currently occupied by Ambrose and Almirola.

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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:38 pm

Cynon wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

Stenhouse has money. Roush needs money for Cup. See where this pairing works?

Nascarboy426 wrote: 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

It'll be the 6. Roush would probably prefer the 6 over the 17.

If Allmendinger gets shafted for Kenseth it'll be understandable (since Kenseth is one of the best drivers in NASCAR) but tragic, because there are much crappier drivers in Cup (Logano, Ragan, Logano) or that have outlived their presence on the grid at the top level of stock cars (Kvapil, Reutimann, Labonte, Burton), whereas guys with potential and speed (Allmendinger, Smith) are stuck with bad cars.

Allmendinger and Keselowski are probably going to spend the rest of this year preparing for next year, and then next year they'll be stuck as the number two team to Roush, essentially filling the space currently occupied by Ambrose and Almirola.
Is Logono so crap, you put him in there twice.

If Logano stays and Kenseth goes to a 4th JGR car, this is what I'm seeing.
>Kenseth goes to JGR but stays in the #17, meaning.
>Stenhouse Jr. competes for ROTY (against no-one at the moment) in the #6, which would hopefully allow,
>Trevor Bayne to finally compete a full season in the Nationwide #6.

If Kenseth goes to the #20, then Logano goes to either the 18 or 20 in Nationwide and compete there full-time.
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Post by racingfreak1999 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:00 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Cynon wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

Stenhouse has money. Roush needs money for Cup. See where this pairing works?

Nascarboy426 wrote: 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

It'll be the 6. Roush would probably prefer the 6 over the 17.

If Allmendinger gets shafted for Kenseth it'll be understandable (since Kenseth is one of the best drivers in NASCAR) but tragic, because there are much crappier drivers in Cup (Logano, Ragan, Logano) or that have outlived their presence on the grid at the top level of stock cars (Kvapil, Reutimann, Labonte, Burton), whereas guys with potential and speed (Allmendinger, Smith) are stuck with bad cars.

Allmendinger and Keselowski are probably going to spend the rest of this year preparing for next year, and then next year they'll be stuck as the number two team to Roush, essentially filling the space currently occupied by Ambrose and Almirola.
Is Logono so crap, you put him in there twice.

If Logano stays and Kenseth goes to a 4th JGR car, this is what I'm seeing.
>Kenseth goes to JGR but stays in the #17, meaning.
>Stenhouse Jr. competes for ROTY (against no-one at the moment) in the #6, which would hopefully allow,
>Trevor Bayne to finally compete a full season in the Nationwide #6.

If Kenseth goes to the #20, then Logano goes to either the 18 or 20 in Nationwide and compete there full-time.
Or, with no sponsorship, they just leave the Nationwide Series altogether.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:26 am

racingfreak1999 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Cynon wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

Stenhouse has money. Roush needs money for Cup. See where this pairing works?

Nascarboy426 wrote: 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

It'll be the 6. Roush would probably prefer the 6 over the 17.

If Allmendinger gets shafted for Kenseth it'll be understandable (since Kenseth is one of the best drivers in NASCAR) but tragic, because there are much crappier drivers in Cup (Logano, Ragan, Logano) or that have outlived their presence on the grid at the top level of stock cars (Kvapil, Reutimann, Labonte, Burton), whereas guys with potential and speed (Allmendinger, Smith) are stuck with bad cars.

Allmendinger and Keselowski are probably going to spend the rest of this year preparing for next year, and then next year they'll be stuck as the number two team to Roush, essentially filling the space currently occupied by Ambrose and Almirola.
Is Logono so crap, you put him in there twice.

If Logano stays and Kenseth goes to a 4th JGR car, this is what I'm seeing.
>Kenseth goes to JGR but stays in the #17, meaning.
>Stenhouse Jr. competes for ROTY (against no-one at the moment) in the #6, which would hopefully allow,
>Trevor Bayne to finally compete a full season in the Nationwide #6.

If Kenseth goes to the #20, then Logano goes to either the 18 or 20 in Nationwide and compete there full-time.
Or, with no sponsorship, they just leave the Nationwide Series altogether.
What if Best Buy goes to Stenhouse, and Chargrill or whatever Stenhouse's current sponsors go to Bayne?
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Post by FlashRod4 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:29 pm

If Bayne goes to the 6 in nationwide, Im not so sure that Angus Steakhouse will be willing to sponsor Trevor for an entire season, but they should be willing to take a chance.

Back to Kenseth, im not sure he would fit in at Jgr or that Joe Gibbs will give up on Kyle or Joey. I think he would fit in better at Stewart-Haas. I believe Sten house might just turn out to be like David Ragan and just perform badly in perfectly good equipment.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by PYLrulz on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:56 pm

Nascarboy426 wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

WELL, GEE. Rolling Eyes

I was saddened to hear this, because 1) one of the only remaining long-standing team-driver relationships in the series is gone, and 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

Could replace 17 with 6
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Post by BWard on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:28 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Although Stenhouse will be far cheaper than Kenseth in terms of salary, no reason was given for the split.

WELL, GEE. Rolling Eyes

I was saddened to hear this, because 1) one of the only remaining long-standing team-driver relationships in the series is gone, and 2) this throws away any chance Roush had of bringing back the #6. Although I am also curious to see how well Stenhouse does next year.

Could replace 17 with 6

Stenhouse is more familiar with racing with the Number 6 on his door.
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Post by Rykia on Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:55 pm

While I would bet my money on Kenseth going to JGR, what about Andretti? The two newest stories on Jayski are Andretti thinking about starting a Cup team (though it is old news), and Kenseth saying he has already made a deal with a team. Could Kenseth be going to driver for Michael Andretti?
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by crl on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:15 pm

Kenseth says he has a deal for next year in place, but won't say where for now.

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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by PYLrulz on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:19 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote:While I would bet my money on Kenseth going to JGR, what about Andretti? The two newest stories on Jayski are Andretti thinking about starting a Cup team (though it is old news), and Kenseth saying he has already made a deal with a team. Could Kenseth be going to driver for Michael Andretti?

That's a good possibility. Start up the team, having a champion on board to use his provisionals if needed, and to bring well needed knowledge. I could see that happening
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by PKligBKFan on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:11 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
Rykia_RKXK wrote:While I would bet my money on Kenseth going to JGR, what about Andretti? The two newest stories on Jayski are Andretti thinking about starting a Cup team (though it is old news), and Kenseth saying he has already made a deal with a team. Could Kenseth be going to driver for Michael Andretti?

That's a good possibility. Start up the team, having a champion on board to use his provisionals if needed, and to bring well needed knowledge. I could see that happening

It just would not make sense for him to go to a start up team. I don't see it happening, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Spen on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:14 pm

My opinions regarding Matt's options:

JGR: Replacing Logano would be the best thing that could ever happen to Matt's career. But it's not going to happen. They are not going to replace a 22 year-old with a 40 year-old. If he goes to Gibbs, it'll be with a fourth team, where he'll basically be a seat-warmer for Darrell Wallace, Jr..

Penske: Not going to happen. Allmendinger's gone by the end of this year. (Two top tens by midseason? And to think we all thought he had potential.) But the #22 will likely go to Hornish.

Andretti Autosport: Not the worst possible move, but it will relegate his career to "Bill Elliott at Evernham" status. Not good if he ever wants to win a second title.

SHR: Best realistic hope. At least he could make the chase consistently.

MWR: No room at the inn.

EGR: Terrible career move, but I could see them firing McMurray.

However this turns out, Matt's days as a serious title contender are over as of this week.

Regarding the 2013 ROTY situation, I'm pretty sure Danica will run for it as well. So we'll basically have a rerun of 2009.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by PKligBKFan on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Spen wrote:My opinions regarding Matt's options:

JGR: Replacing Logano would be the best thing that could ever happen to Matt's career. But it's not going to happen. They are not going to replace a 22 year-old with a 40 year-old. If he goes to Gibbs, it'll be with a fourth team, where he'll basically be a seat-warmer for Darrell Wallace, Jr..

Penske: Not going to happen. Allmendinger's gone by the end of this year. (Two top tens by midseason? And to think we all thought he had potential.) But the #22 will likely go to Hornish.

Andretti Autosport: Not the worst possible move, but it will relegate his career to "Bill Elliott at Evernham" status. Not good if he ever wants to win a second title.

SHR: Best realistic hope. At least he could make the chase consistently.

MWR: No room at the inn.

EGR: Terrible career move, but I could see them firing McMurray.

However this turns out, Matt's days as a serious title contender are over as of this week.

Regarding the 2013 ROTY situation, I'm pretty sure Danica will run for it as well. So we'll basically have a rerun of 2009.

You've got to give AJ more credit. In 2010, Brad got two top 10's, he's still at Penske. Roger isn't the type of driver to just dump somebody just like that. Also, AJ's crew chief was with Brad last year in NNS, they got off to a really slow start. Give it some time, they should be okay.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Spen on Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:43 pm

Brad was in his first full season. A.J.'s in his sixth. And even David freakin' Stremme managed to not wreck at Michigan while he was at Penske. (Well, in one of his starts, anyway.)
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alta on Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:07 am

Spen wrote:Brad was in his first full season. A.J.'s in his sixth. And even David freakin' Stremme managed to not wreck at Michigan while he was at Penske. (Well, in one of his starts, anyway.)
AJ's like Gordon this season. When he has a good run going, something happens to ruin it.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alpineopossum on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:35 pm

The dark side? Mr. Roush, you are not Luke Skywalker. If you were, you'd have crashed the Millenium Falcon long before reaching the Death Star.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Ben Atkins on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Spen wrote:EGR: Terrible career move, but I could see them firing McMurray.

McMurray would honestly leave EGR before they fire him, as would Montoya. That team is terrible, and you're right in saying it would be a terrible move for Kenseth to go there.

Kenseth, please replace Logano in the 20. I know you're probably going to Andretti, but that 20 car would extend your career quite a bit!

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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alpineopossum on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:54 pm

Teressa Earnhardt is the problem. Chip Ganassi and Felix Stabatas are fine.
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Re: BREAKING: Matt Kenseth OUT of RFR for 2013; Stenhouse IN

Post by Alta on Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:00 pm

crl wrote:Roush admits he screwed up in letting Kenseth get away:

http://motorsports-soapbox.blogspot.com/2012/06/roush-i-might-have-been-able-to-stop-it.html
WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT NOW!
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