Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
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Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
One difference between Kenseth and Harvick. Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Harvick's deal was intentional? Kenseth's clearly was.
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Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
As much as we all know Harvick did it, no way he can get a penalty. That would've been easily appealed. He went high into Bayne, which was freaking stupid, but can't base a suspension on that (Even I wanted a suspension). Kenseth decided to not use his brakes and turn right into Logano. Major difference.
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Fair penalty in and of itself I suppose, but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Read the 2 posts above yours...kensethfan wrote: but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
What Gordon did in 2012 was worse. Horrible call, but I had a feeling they were going to do something rash like this.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
They had to do something about this. You can't have people wrecking each other on purpose. There's an unwritten rule in racing that you don't intentionally wreck a driver. Give somebody a bump, yes. Run them into the grass, sure. But to actually shove someone into the wall is a step too far. They should have cracked down on this earlier, in my opinion. Harvick and Logano both should've been penalized in some way (although not suspended for two races).
Lost in all of this is that Danica Patrick was given a $50,000 fine and docked 25 points for her collision with David Gilliland.
Lost in all of this is that Danica Patrick was given a $50,000 fine and docked 25 points for her collision with David Gilliland.
Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
I figured a suspension was on the table, but TWO RACES?!? Drivers have done much worse on the track, and gotten much less for it. Hell, Harvick's stupidity (at the least) at Talladega didn't even get him a slap on the wrist.
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I imagine the reason for the two races is so that Kenseth can't touch Logano for the rest of this Chase round. It makes some sense, but I'd imagine Kenseth won't be very nice to Logano at Homestead, Championship contender or not lol.
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conrail1990 wrote:Read the 2 posts above yours...kensethfan wrote: but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
I did. Don't care.
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One thing I will say. Once again, this is why I don't give a rip what "fans" ask for anymore. Look at some of the "fans" have been saying about this. Disgusting at the least.
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If there was the ability to like posts, this one would be getting ALL my likes
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Pretty much my thoughts on this.Alpineopossum wrote:They had to do something about this. You can't have people wrecking each other on purpose. There's an unwritten rule in racing that you don't intentionally wreck a driver. Give somebody a bump, yes. Run them into the grass, sure. But to actually shove someone into the wall is a step too far. They should have cracked down on this earlier, in my opinion. Harvick and Logano both should've been penalized in some way (although not suspended for two races).
Lost in all of this is that Danica Patrick was given a $50,000 fine and docked 25 points for her collision with David Gilliland.
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Well, with this standard, Harvick should have been tossed out for a calendar year, but since he's Kevin Harvick I guess he can get away with it too. Everyone knew that was intentional, and there was just as much evidence for that as there was for MWR telling Bowyer about his arm cramps or Sage Karam's gearbox oil.
They're not even trying to hide who their favorite sons are anymore...
It's like they secretly watch TM Master Cup, saw half the penalties I gave out to Packer Carroll last season, and thought; "Wow that's ballsy, let's one-up that to a driver who messes with one of our golden boys!"
Hilarious.
They're not even trying to hide who their favorite sons are anymore...
It's like they secretly watch TM Master Cup, saw half the penalties I gave out to Packer Carroll last season, and thought; "Wow that's ballsy, let's one-up that to a driver who messes with one of our golden boys!"
Hilarious.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
>Drivers do shit that should be suspendable but don't get suspended
>Fans bitch
>Driver gets suspended for doing something worthy of suspension
>THE EXACT SAME FANS bitch
I'm just happy NASCAR but the right call on this.
>Fans bitch
>Driver gets suspended for doing something worthy of suspension
>THE EXACT SAME FANS bitch
I'm just happy NASCAR but the right call on this.
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Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:>Drivers do shit that should be suspendable but don't get suspended
>Fans bitch
>Driver gets suspended for doing something worthy of suspension
>THE EXACT SAME FANS bitch
I'm just happy NASCAR but the right call on this.
There's no consistency. That's why fans are upset.
Kenseth deserved what he got, but there's about three drivers I can think of that deserve penalties too that got off lightly. Again, no consistency, but that's nascar for you...
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Cynon wrote:Well, with this standard, Harvick should have been tossed out for a calendar year, but since he's Kevin Harvick I guess he can get away with it too. Everyone knew that was intentional, and there was just as much evidence for that as there was for MWR telling Bowyer about his arm cramps or Sage Karam's gearbox oil.
They're not even trying to hide who their favorite sons are anymore...
It's like they secretly watch TM Master Cup, saw half the penalties I gave out to Packer Carroll last season, and thought; "Wow that's ballsy, let's one-up that to a driver who messes with one of our golden boys!"
Hilarious.
I know, right?
I would argue that there was more evidence against Harvick than there was against MWR, and yet he gets off scot-free. "Well, what about reasonable doubt?" Well, there was reasonable doubt in MWR's case and yet they had the book thrown at them.
I agree with Cooper on this one. It's pretty damn obvious they play favorites, and it's pretty sickening, to be honest.
Also...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/kenseth-penalty-shows-only-thing-consistent-is-inconsistency-in-nascar-022631645.html
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Matt Kenseth loses both appeals. Will not race at Texas and Phoenix.
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Erik Jones weekend looking like..
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
Let's dodge the Harvick comparison for a second and ask ourselves this. Why was Brad and Denny's incident at Charlotte not looked down on for safety reasons, while an on track incedent at arguably NASCAR's slowest track was considered a safety issue. That's NASCAR inconsistency right there!
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Keselowski was fined and probated (Hamlin got nothing, Tony got same thing as Kes).Mother of Invention wrote:Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
Let's dodge the Harvick comparison for a second and ask ourselves this. Why was Brad and Denny's incident at Charlotte not looked down on for safety reasons, while an on track incedent at arguably NASCAR's slowest track was considered a safety issue. That's NASCAR inconsistency right there!
It also doesn't matter if it's the slowest track, entry to turn 1 is still around about 130 mph, and there have been fatal accidents at Martinsville.
Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races
Harvick should've been at the very least docked points and possibly parked for a race. I think that after the Harvick incident at Talladega and Loganos run ins with Kenseth, NASCAR felt that things were getting a bit out of hand. I think Kenseth deserved the penalty but Harvick and Logano got off easy.
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