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Post by Alpineopossum on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:27 pm

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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Nascar9fan on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:29 pm

Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by day500champ1 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:36 pm

Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right

One difference between Kenseth and Harvick. Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Harvick's deal was intentional? Kenseth's clearly was.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:43 pm

Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right

As much as we all know Harvick did it, no way he can get a penalty. That would've been easily appealed. He went high into Bayne, which was freaking stupid, but can't base a suspension on that (Even I wanted a suspension). Kenseth decided to not use his brakes and turn right into Logano. Major difference.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by kensethfan on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:49 pm

Fair penalty in and of itself I suppose, but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by conrail1990 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:51 pm

kensethfan wrote: but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
Read the 2 posts above yours...


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Post by FlashRod4 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:51 pm

What Gordon did in 2012 was worse. Horrible call, but I had a feeling they were going to do something rash like this.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Alpineopossum on Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:04 pm

They had to do something about this. You can't have people wrecking each other on purpose. There's an unwritten rule in racing that you don't intentionally wreck a driver. Give somebody a bump, yes. Run them into the grass, sure. But to actually shove someone into the wall is a step too far. They should have cracked down on this earlier, in my opinion. Harvick and Logano both should've been penalized in some way (although not suspended for two races).

Lost in all of this is that Danica Patrick was given a $50,000 fine and docked 25 points for her collision with David Gilliland.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by PYLrulz on Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:22 pm

I figured a suspension was on the table, but TWO RACES?!? Drivers have done much worse on the track, and gotten much less for it. Hell, Harvick's stupidity (at the least) at Talladega didn't even get him a slap on the wrist.

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Post by BooyakaDragon on Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:25 pm

I imagine the reason for the two races is so that Kenseth can't touch Logano for the rest of this Chase round. It makes some sense, but I'd imagine Kenseth won't be very nice to Logano at Homestead, Championship contender or not lol.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by kensethfan on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:26 pm

conrail1990 wrote:
kensethfan wrote: but it still begs the question, where was Harvick's penalty?
Read the 2 posts above yours...

I did. Don't care.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by PYLrulz on Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:59 pm

One thing I will say. Once again, this is why I don't give a rip what "fans" ask for anymore. Look at some of the "fans" have been saying about this. Disgusting at the least.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:31 pm

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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by PYLrulz on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:33 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:

If there was the ability to like posts, this one would be getting ALL my likes
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Alta on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:10 am

Alpineopossum wrote:They had to do something about this. You can't have people wrecking each other on purpose. There's an unwritten rule in racing that you don't intentionally wreck a driver. Give somebody a bump, yes. Run them into the grass, sure. But to actually shove someone into the wall is a step too far. They should have cracked down on this earlier, in my opinion. Harvick and Logano both should've been penalized in some way (although not suspended for two races).

Lost in all of this is that Danica Patrick was given a $50,000 fine and docked 25 points for her collision with David Gilliland.
Pretty much my thoughts on this.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Cynon on Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:22 am

Well, with this standard, Harvick should have been tossed out for a calendar year, but since he's Kevin Harvick I guess he can get away with it too. Everyone knew that was intentional, and there was just as much evidence for that as there was for MWR telling Bowyer about his arm cramps or Sage Karam's gearbox oil.

They're not even trying to hide who their favorite sons are anymore... Laughing

It's like they secretly watch TM Master Cup, saw half the penalties I gave out to Packer Carroll last season, and thought; "Wow that's ballsy, let's one-up that to a driver who messes with one of our golden boys!" Laughing

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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:23 am

>Drivers do shit that should be suspendable but don't get suspended
>Fans bitch
>Driver gets suspended for doing something worthy of suspension
>THE EXACT SAME FANS bitch

I'm just happy NASCAR but the right call on this.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Ben Atkins on Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:38 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:>Drivers do shit that should be suspendable but don't get suspended
>Fans bitch
>Driver gets suspended for doing something worthy of suspension
>THE EXACT SAME FANS bitch

I'm just happy NASCAR but the right call on this.

There's no consistency. That's why fans are upset.

Kenseth deserved what he got, but there's about three drivers I can think of that deserve penalties too that got off lightly. Again, no consistency, but that's nascar for you...

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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by BWard on Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:58 am

Ricky Craven hit the nail on the head here:
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by PackerMan71 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:21 pm

Cynon wrote:Well, with this standard, Harvick should have been tossed out for a calendar year, but since he's Kevin Harvick I guess he can get away with it too. Everyone knew that was intentional, and there was just as much evidence for that as there was for MWR telling Bowyer about his arm cramps or Sage Karam's gearbox oil.

They're not even trying to hide who their favorite sons are anymore... Laughing

It's like they secretly watch TM Master Cup, saw half the penalties I gave out to Packer Carroll last season, and thought; "Wow that's ballsy, let's one-up that to a driver who messes with one of our golden boys!" Laughing

Hilarious.

I know, right? Laughing

I would argue that there was more evidence against Harvick than there was against MWR, and yet he gets off scot-free. "Well, what about reasonable doubt?" Well, there was reasonable doubt in MWR's case and yet they had the book thrown at them.

I agree with Cooper on this one. It's pretty damn obvious they play favorites, and it's pretty sickening, to be honest. Neutral

Also...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/kenseth-penalty-shows-only-thing-consistent-is-inconsistency-in-nascar-022631645.html
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by bigdc48 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:38 pm

Matt Kenseth loses both appeals. Will not race at Texas and Phoenix.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Alta on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:40 pm

Erik Jones weekend looking like..

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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:06 pm

Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right

Let's dodge the Harvick comparison for a second and ask ourselves this. Why was Brad and Denny's incident at Charlotte not looked down on for safety reasons, while an on track incedent at arguably NASCAR's slowest track was considered a safety issue. That's NASCAR inconsistency right there!
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:13 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
Nascar9fan wrote:Yet Harvick gets nothing. Inconsistency at it's finest. Not saying what Kenseth did was right, but one receiving a different punishment (well, a punishment) while the other doesn't is not right

Let's dodge the Harvick comparison for a second and ask ourselves this. Why was Brad and Denny's incident at Charlotte not looked down on for safety reasons, while an on track incedent at arguably NASCAR's slowest track was considered a safety issue. That's NASCAR inconsistency right there!
Keselowski was fined and probated (Hamlin got nothing, Tony got same thing as Kes).

It also doesn't matter if it's the slowest track, entry to turn 1 is still around about 130 mph, and there have been fatal accidents at Martinsville.
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Re: Kenseth Suspended for Two Races

Post by Alpineopossum on Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:26 pm

Harvick should've been at the very least docked points and possibly parked for a race. I think that after the Harvick incident at Talladega and Loganos run ins with Kenseth, NASCAR felt that things were getting a bit out of hand. I think Kenseth deserved the penalty but Harvick and Logano got off easy.
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