"Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
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"Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
"Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
Big news today from the VSCC Officials. Supposedly as a result of "major" management disputes, the season has been shortened to just 9 races. The series will run at the Twin Ring Motegi for race 8, as scheduled, and the finale will be hosted at Clairmont.
Sources have said that the management disputes are regarding the workings of the tier system within the series. The entire management group has decided that they shorten the season and regroup with their ideas for how the series will be run, implying that there will be changes.
The teams in the lower-tiers have been informed that the lower-tier seasons are over, and they have been encouraged to enter the season finale at Clairmont, which will now be a double-header event, with two races of 42 cars each.
Big news today from the VSCC Officials. Supposedly as a result of "major" management disputes, the season has been shortened to just 9 races. The series will run at the Twin Ring Motegi for race 8, as scheduled, and the finale will be hosted at Clairmont.
Sources have said that the management disputes are regarding the workings of the tier system within the series. The entire management group has decided that they shorten the season and regroup with their ideas for how the series will be run, implying that there will be changes.
The teams in the lower-tiers have been informed that the lower-tier seasons are over, and they have been encouraged to enter the season finale at Clairmont, which will now be a double-header event, with two races of 42 cars each.
Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
Probably not the best way to draw a crowd back to this series for the 2012 season.
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F1V1 wrote:Probably not the best way to draw a crowd back to this series for the 2012 season.
So be it, but IMO, I need to start fresh, and there aren't many other choices that would look any better.
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When will the silly season start?
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F1V1 wrote:Probably not the best way to draw a crowd back to this series for the 2012 season.
Maybe you're right, but sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
I think this is the right decision.
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Chives2112 wrote:I think this is the right decision.
I was thinking do what CRL did, and make it the 2011-2012 season. But either way, if it helps Woody, then good.
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PackerMan71 wrote:Maybe you're right, but sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do.
That.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
That's a shame. The current system was working fine.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
It worked real fine with the fact that the year is 18 days from the end of the year, and he has 7 races done.Casey Lester wrote:That's a shame. The current system was working fine.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
Fewer races and/or cars, maybe?
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Ceej wrote:Fewer races and/or cars, maybe?
There could potentially be a poll about this....
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I understand that everyone has a life outside of this (hopefully anyway), but noting that over half the season got cut for lack of time kind of leads me to believe it won't be much different come next year especially if school was the main issue. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, it's just difficult to follow a series that only gets updated once in a blue moon. If anything I would definitely reduce the schedule next season to make it more manageable.
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F1V1 wrote:I understand that everyone has a life outside of this (hopefully anyway), but noting that over half the season got cut for lack of time kind of leads me to believe it won't be much different come next year especially if school was the main issue. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, it's just difficult to follow a series that only gets updated once in a blue moon. If anything I would definitely reduce the schedule next season to make it more manageable.
Well, Zach, I understand where you are coming from, but you should also consider the fact that this was the first year that I had attempting working with more than one series at a time. VSCC, VERC, VART, and ASCC...
In other words... I had planned on doing 19 VSCC races, which have at least 19 Q-Races, 11 VERC races, 11 VART races, and 10 ASCC races.... which is 70 races total. Compared to 19 VSCC Races and the 30 Q-Races I had to run, so 49 total last season. Obviously, I will not be attempting that again. In the best scenario, I'd like to get rid of Q-Races in general.
So, while I know it is still unacceptable that I wasn't able to this season, I think me being able to complete things within a proper timeframe in 2008, 2009, and 2010, speaks for itself.
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You probably had more time to work with in the last few years, and that's completely understandable because we're all getting older. 70 races in one season would require an extreme amount of management that most people, including myself, would never find the needed time for. I think you did a fairly good job considering what you had to work with I just think you bit off a little more than you could chew this season working with 4 different series. I'm not trying to come off as a tool or seem like I'm blaming you for anything, I'd just rather not see it happen again in 2012 if that makes sense.
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F1V1 wrote:You probably had more time to work with in the last few years, and that's completely understandable because we're all getting older. 70 races in one season would require an extreme amount of management that most people, including myself, would never find the needed time for. I think you did a fairly good job considering what you had to work with I just think you bit off a little more than you could chew this season working with 4 different series. I'm not trying to come off as a tool or seem like I'm blaming you for anything, I'd just rather not see it happen again in 2012 if that makes sense.
I know what you are saying, don't worry.
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Can I make a suggestion for 2012? Do what Ceej did. Just add VART and VERC in for storyline purposes just don't run the races.
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this, even though it's in the canon doesn't really mean it has to be run.PKligBKFan wrote:Can I make a suggestion for 2012? Do what Ceej did. Just add VART and VERC in for storyline purposes just don't run the races.
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Either that or delegate who runs the lower-tier races, kind of like what happens with the TM Lights.
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I could run lower tier VSCC races next year, I'm not really good at giving a whole blown description of what happened though.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
Same heregwoodard41 wrote:I could run lower tier VSCC races next year, I'm not really good at giving a whole blown description of what happened though.
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I was thinking the same thing, pretty much like the TM Lights on certain occasions.gwoodard41 wrote:I could run lower tier VSCC races next year, I'm not really good at giving a whole blown description of what happened though.
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Re: "Major" Management Disputes Lead to Shortening of 2011 Season
This is a good thing to alow Woody to get all the track kinkes worked out and I also think it give time to really rethink the points system for the 3 series (VSCC,VART,VERC). I think each series should go back to the old format with no promotions and demotions of teams and drivers until the end of the season which you would then promot the top-5 from each lower series(VART,VERC) and demoto the bottum 15 cars so the new guys could have a shot at the next level and so it would allow the drivers of their respectif series to compete for the championship, In the system we have now there are only would be able to be one champion at the end of the year and when the teams are promoted to the next level the are added to the season late they rarely make the races and to be honest its unrealalistic. I have alot more ideas but this is it for now
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