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by Mother of Invention Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:16 pm

NASCAR wrote:Entry Car# Driver Sponsor Manu Owner
1 01 Landon Cassill G&K Services 14 Chevy Johnny Davis
2 2 Brian Scott Whitetail 14 Chevy Richard Childress
3 3 Ty Dillon VF / Jiffy Lube 14 Chevy Richard Childress
4 4 Jeffrey Earnhardt teamjdmotorsports.com 14 Chevy Gary Keller
5 6 Trevor Bayne AdvoCare 14 Ford Jack Roush
6 7 Regan Smith NAPA Synthetic Oil 14 Chevy Kelley Earnhardt-Miller
7 9 Chase Elliott NAPA AUTO PARTS 14 Chevy Dale Earnhardt Jr
8 10 Jeff Green [PC1] Supportmilitary.org 14 Toyota Mark Smith
9 11 Elliott Sadler Interstate Batteries 14 Toyota J D Gibbs
10 14 Eric McClure Hefty Ultimate / Reynolds Wrap 14 Toyota Mark Smith
11 16 Ryan Reed American Diabetes Assoc, Drive to Stop Diabetes presented by Lilly Diabetes 14 Ford Jack Roush
12 17 Tanner Berryhill BWP Bats 14 Dodge Adrian Berryhill
13 19 Mike Bliss TBA 14 Toyota Mark Smith
14 20 Matt Kenseth(i) GameStop 14 Toyota Joe Gibbs
15 22 Brad Keselowski(i) Discount Tire 14 Ford Roger Penske
16 23 Robert Richardson, Jr. Cornboard 13 Chevy Robert Richardson Sr
17 24 Ryan Ellis (i) SuperliteCars.com-Be/More 14 Toyota Jason Sciavicco
18 28 Mike Wallace TBA 13 Toyota James Whitener
19 31 Dylan Kwasniewski Rockstar 14 Chevy Steve Turner
20 33 Matt Crafton Menards-Tarkett 14 Chevy Richard Childress
21 39 Ryan Sieg(i) RSS Racing 14 Chevy Rod Sieg
22 40 Josh Wise(i) Curtis Key Plumbing 14 Chevy Curtis Key Sr
23 42 Kyle Larson(i) Cartwheel 14 Chevy Harry Scott Jr
24 43 Dakoda Armstrong WinField 14 Ford Richard Petty
25 44 Blake Koch TriStar Motorsports 14 Toyota Mark Smith
26 46 Matt Dibenedetto Curtis Key Plumbing 14 Chevy Curtis Key Sr
27 51 Jeremy Clements TBD 14 Chevy Tony Clements
28 52 Joey Gase TBA 14 Chevy Jimmy Means
29 54 Kyle Busch(i) Monster Energy 14 Toyota J D Gibbs
30 55 Jamie Dick Viva Auto Group 14 Chevy Jimmy Dick
31 60 Chris Buescher Ford Ecoboost 14 Ford Jack Roush
32 62 Brendan Gaughan South Point 14 Chevy Richard Childress
33 70 Derrike Cope CharliesSoap.com 14 Chevy Mary Louise Miller
34 74 Mike Harmon TBA 14 Chevy Mike Harmon
35 76 Tommy Joe Martins Cross Concrete Construction 14 Dodge Tommy Joe Martins
36 87 Joe Nemechek(i) Iworld 14 Toyota Andrea Nemechek
37 88 Dale Earnhardt, Jr. [PC2] TaxSlayer.com 14 Chevy Dale Earnhardt Jr
38 93 J.J. Yeley TBA 13 Dodge Gregg Mixon
39 98 David Ragan(i) Carroll Shelby Engine Co. 14 Ford Fred Biagi
40 99 James Buescher Rheem 14 Toyota Robby Benton

Will it be Cuppie Winslol again? or will a series regular step up tot he plate?

by Alta Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:16 pm

Stan Boyd is that you?

by PYLrulz Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:16 pm

lolbuschwins

by Mother of Invention Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:18 pm

PYLrulz wrote:lolbuschwins

Naw, it's Brad's turn to ruin the fun Razz

by Lucstar88 Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:25 pm

Well... Kyle Busch actually has a bad average finish here, like his brother

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:03 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Well... Kyle Busch actually has a bad average finish here, like his brother

Kyle has never won a Las Vegas Nationwide race. Expect 864 mentions of "KYLE BUSCH HAS NEVER WON IN HIS HOMETOWN, except for that one Cup race in '09"

by Lucstar88 Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:53 pm

Brad wins, Ky. Busch second, Kyle Larson third, DAYLE in 4th and Chase Elliott 5th....

Meh... This race was lackluster... and Dale Jarrett & Jeff Burton thinking that cuppies should stay... How bout no.

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:53 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Brad wins, Ky. Busch second, Kyle Larson third, DAYLE in 4th and Chase Elliott 5th....

Meh... This race was lackluster... and Dale Jarrett & Jeff Burton thinking that cuppies should stay... How bout no.

What?

by pennst24 Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:58 pm

*insert same weekly comment about the Nationwide race here*

by Alta Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:57 pm

Same abysmal race. Same cars running in the top 5. Same regulars running behind cup drivers and fighting for the"6th place championship". Same drivers in underfunded cars getting overlooked. Same ESPN doing damaging control for Nascar "Saying it's good for the series." (Apparently that rumor over limiting the cuppies turned out false)

When does the buck stop for Nascar, It's a serious problem when the the cup drivers absolute outrun the best of the regulars by over 15 seconds to a laps and the rest of the guys are 2-5 laps behind. It's a legitimate problem when the series is starting to look like ARCA, It's understandable since at worst there is one 1-2 teams back by cup teams while the rest of the big teams are ARCA only....But Nationwide is supposed to be Nascar's secondary series, the final stretch to making your dreams of being in the cup series a reality...Now it looks like a underfunded series with a bunch of heavily back teams that are leading the pack. It's gonna bite Nascar sooner rather than later.

I'll continue to watch the series just to see guys like Brain Scott, Chase Eillott, Regan Smith and others show there is still bright spots of unrecognized talent in the series (Regan Smith's case to get another shot at cup) but this "We want Cup drivers only" mentality stuff needs to end and soon, It's damaging the sport at this point.

by PackerMan71 Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:58 pm

I didn't even bother watching this race, nor did I watch the Phoenix race. That should tell you my interest level in the Nationwide Series right now.

by navycook75 Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:22 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:I didn't even bother watching this race, nor did I watch the Phoenix race. That should tell you my interest level in the Nationwide Series right now.

I had it on as background noise. There's nothing else good on during that time.

by Lucstar88 Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:25 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Brad wins, Ky. Busch second, Kyle Larson third, DAYLE in 4th and Chase Elliott 5th....

Meh... This race was lackluster... and Dale Jarrett & Jeff Burton thinking that cuppies should stay... How bout no.
What?

Jeff tweeted that during the race, and NASCAR retweeted it

by RACECAR Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:28 pm

Alta wrote:Same abysmal race. Same cars running in the top 5. Same regulars running behind cup drivers and fighting for the"6th place championship". Same drivers in underfunded cars getting overlooked. Same ESPN doing damaging control for Nascar "Saying it's good for the series." (Apparently that rumor over limiting the cuppies turned out false)

Not that it really matters anymore since this is their final year covering the series. 2015 can't come soon enough.

Alta wrote:When does the buck stop for Nascar, It's a serious problem when the the cup drivers absolute outrun the best of the regulars by over 15 seconds to a laps and the rest of the guys are 2-5 laps behind. It's a legitimate problem when the series is starting to look like ARCA, It's understandable since at worst there is one 1-2 teams back by cup teams while the rest of the big teams are ARCA only....But Nationwide is supposed to be Nascar's secondary series, the final stretch to making your dreams of being in the cup series a reality...Now it looks like a underfunded series with a bunch of heavily back teams that are leading the pack. It's gonna bite Nascar sooner rather than later.

I'll continue to watch the series just to see guys like Brain Scott, Chase Eillott, Regan Smith and others show there is still bright spots of unrecognized talent in the series (Regan Smith's case to get another shot at cup) but this "We want Cup drivers only" mentality stuff needs to end and soon, It's damaging the sport at this point.

The buck stops when the sponsors stop putting cup drivers on this pedestal and treat drivers in the lower series like second rate crap (I'm looking at you, Dollar General).

by Lucstar88 Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:31 pm

Chase Elliott has failed post-race tech...

P2 in the penalty book = 10 points, 5K-10K fine. (Likely Penalty) (Too Low)

EDIT : The 22 had the right rear shock taken by NASCAR... no announcement yet, Penalties likely announced on Wednesday

by Alta Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:07 pm

RACECAR wrote:
Alta wrote:Same abysmal race. Same cars running in the top 5. Same regulars running behind cup drivers and fighting for the"6th place championship". Same drivers in underfunded cars getting overlooked. Same ESPN doing damaging control for Nascar "Saying it's good for the series." (Apparently that rumor over limiting the cuppies turned out false)

Not that it really matters anymore since this is their final year covering the series. 2015 can't come soon enough.

The buck stops when the sponsors stop putting cup drivers on this pedestal and treat drivers in the lower series like second rate crap (I'm looking at you, Dollar General).

I feel Nascar used them to get their point across, maybe it's just me

Lucstar88 wrote:Chase Elliott has failed post-race tech...

P2 in the penalty book = 10 points, 5K-10K fine. (Likely Penalty) (Too Low)

EDIT : The 22 had the right rear shock taken by NASCAR... no announcement yet, Penalties likely announced on Wednesday

Why am i honestly not surprised.

by pennst24 Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:29 pm

I honestly think downsizing this series a bit could do a world of good....

by Dan Mackay Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:19 pm

had it on for 50 laps, went out and road a city bus for an hour, came home, didnt miss much clearly

by PYLrulz Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:38 am

Lucstar88 wrote:Brad wins, Ky. Busch second, Kyle Larson third, DAYLE in 4th and Chase Elliott 5th....

Meh... This race was lackluster... and Dale Jarrett & Jeff Burton thinking that cuppies should stay... How bout no.

Even worse since ESPN, at least when it comes to promoting the races, always features Nationwide regulars in the commercials.

NASCAR I think is in a serious need of an overhaul

by Mother of Invention Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:55 am

pennst24 wrote:I honestly think downsizing this series a bit could do a world of good....

Bring back the bullrings plz!

Alta wrote:It's a serious problem when the the cup drivers absolute outrun the best of the regulars by over 15 seconds to a laps and the rest of the guys are 2-5 laps behind.

It's a no win situation that's not as easy to fix, cause if you did remove cup guys from most races (I am for it), you'd still have the issue of only 5-10 comeptitive teams. (The 3,9,7,2,31,33,54 Hornish, 22 R Blaney.) I think the series slowly got saturated with mediocre development driver rejects (Josh Wise, Matt DiBennedeto, etc...etc...) after 06 and it's really ruined the quality of the racing

What I am trying to say is, the Talent pool is the real issue here. What few good drivers we've had have moved up to cup (Justin Allgaier, Austin Dillon, Kyle Larson, Ricky Stenhouse)

Alta wrote:I feel Nascar used them to get their point across, maybe it's just me

I cringed a little listening to that

by **crl** Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:22 am

Lucstar88 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Brad wins, Ky. Busch second, Kyle Larson third, DAYLE in 4th and Chase Elliott 5th....

Meh... This race was lackluster... and Dale Jarrett & Jeff Burton thinking that cuppies should stay... How bout no.
What?

Jeff tweeted that during the race, and NASCAR retweeted it

Burton's as big a phony NASCAR kiss-ass as DW. Why every journalist went to him first I don't know, since he spewed the same corporate crap NASCAR does.

by BWard Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:38 am

In the Nationwide/cuppiewinslol Series, you should always expect the expected.

by Lucstar88 Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:00 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
Alta wrote:It's a serious problem when the the cup drivers absolute outrun the best of the regulars by over 15 seconds to a laps and the rest of the guys are 2-5 laps behind.

It's a no win situation that's not as easy to fix, cause if you did remove cup guys from most races (I am for it), you'd still have the issue of only 5-10 comeptitive teams. (The 3,9,7,2,31,33,54 Hornish, 22 R Blaney.) I think the series slowly got saturated with mediocre development driver rejects (Josh Wise, Matt DiBennedeto, etc...etc...) after 06 and it's really ruined the quality of the racing

What I am trying to say is, the Talent pool is the real issue here. What few good drivers we've had have moved up to cup (Justin Allgaier, Austin Dillon, Kyle Larson, Ricky Stenhouse)

That's kinda bull... because the medium drivers, have too stay with the shitty rides because all the cuppies are there. If JGR actually developed drivers, they would have a chance, but since all the good seats are taken by Cup Drivers, no chance they can prove themselves, That's why i like JRM, Junior actually develops drivers, like Brad K, Chase, Cole Whitt, etc... yes he may have Harvick running half the schedule but Dale keeps it balanced, His team may not of won a title in NNS, but this year with Regan & Chase, they have a legitimate shot. Also, Brad would've won in 09 if the cuppies (Denny Hamlin being a cunt like always) were limited. I don't want to ban cuppies, but limit them to 10 races per year, or like Dale does, 4-5 races per year, and i won't complain...

by pennst24 Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:04 pm

I think a lot of it has to do with who the Cuppie is. I guarantee no one raised a stink when Mark Martin did it, but since it's Kyle and Brad everyone has to be up in arms about it. Either way, Cuppies in the series are ridiculous, but you can't tell me that because it's Kyle Busch it doesn't exacerbate the problem.

by f1fan12 Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:16 pm

Heard the race was crap, glad I didn't watch!

by PYLrulz Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:49 pm

pennst24 wrote:I think a lot of it has to do with who the Cuppie is. I guarantee no one raised a stink when Mark Martin did it, but since it's Kyle and Brad everyone has to be up in arms about it. Either way, Cuppies in the series are ridiculous, but you can't tell me that because it's Kyle Busch it doesn't exacerbate the problem.

I've posted this point before. Back when Mark Martin was doing it, you only had about up to 5 Cup guys racing in the Busch series, and even then, with the exception of Mark Martin, they'd usually be riding Busch only equipment, not equipment owned by Cup owners.

For instance

1995

Mark Martin drove for Roush
Michael Waltrip drove for Bahari

however...

Mike Wallace drove for Barry Owen (a Busch only owner)
Dale Jarrett drove his own cars
Ken Schrader drove his own cars
Jimmy Spencer drove for Dick Moroso
Terry Labonte drove his own cars
Joe Nemechek drove his own cars (then again, he did have his own Cup team at that time too, but it wasn't Roush level)
Ricky Craven drove his own cars
Morgan Shepherd drove his own cars
Bobby Hillin drove for Dick Moroso

Factor in that at most, Martin and Labonte drove near 20 races, and most everybody else FAR less, the Busch guys had an actual chance more times than not

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