Five Drivers You Want to See in TMMC in 2012

I believe we did this once on the old forum, but now we're doing it here too!

Name five drivers you want to see in the TM Master Cup Series full-time (Independent's Trophy is not full-time), and five drivers currently in the TMMC full-time (guys like Pulyakov, Watts, Waters, and Mummert count) that you want to see out (it is unwise to say Scott Bates for this category!). All drivers you want to see in must be in the canon somewhere (TM Lights/ARLA/CRL/etc...), and don't say any of your own drivers please (but other people you employ are fine).

In:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

Out:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

Remember, no hard feelings towards anyone.

This should be fun.

My list, in no particular order, based on the canon viewing I do (with links to TMpedia pages).

Spoiler:

Out list is hard to do, so I skipped it :3 .

In:
1.Shane Lake
2.Cameron Sweetwater
3.Ricky Gonzales
4.Kevin Dwyer
5.HERP A DERP DUDDING

Out:
1.Bobby Porteau
2.Dale Roswell
3.Ethan Everett
4.Anybody who drove for Tutino
5.Nosova.

In:
1. Johnnie Ada (seriously, where did that guy go?)
2. Thurston Blood
3. Lorne Roth
4. Jack Bohart
5. Chris Allen

All I can think of for Out are Robert Dorian and Charlie Waters.

In:
1.Rene Recarmier
2.Allie Riggs
3.Lorne Roth
4.Kevin Monroe
5.Thurston Blood

I can't think of who I want out

In
1. Allie Riggs
2. Morgan Hamburg
3. Joseph Howard
4. Mumba Kumangu
5. Greg Woodard (If only to see if the Lycoia can be a consistent contender all season)

Out
1. Dale Roswell
2. Avery Holtzmann
3. Adrien Devereaux (Make it interesting, soon to be 2011 champ!)
4. Mike Whitmore
5. Zelda Ashby (though I always like the Nintendo cars)

First, the OUT's:

1. Adrian Devereaux (such a whiney-a$$ baby.)
2. Zelda Ashby
3. Derek the Derp
4. Anyone for Tutino!
5. Robert Dorian

Now the IN crowd:

1. Kevin Monroe
2. Kevin Dwyer
3. Johnnie Ada
4. Jerry Luther (never heard anything about this guy since the GRL and early EFR days.)
5. Chris Allen

In:
1. Allie Riggs
2. Rene Recarmier
3. Vitaly Karpenko
4. Lev Vladimirovich Polzin!!!!11!!11!1!!!!
5. Jacob Eichholtz

Out:
1. Dale Roswell
2. Mikhaill Pulyakov
3. Bobby Porteau
4. Robert Dorian
5. Mathias Taube

In:
1. Dale Underwood
2. Joseph Howard
3. Bigsby Foote
4. Harry S. Enola
5. David Jarrett

Out:
1. Chris Johaanes
2. Jacques Bouvier
3. Charlie Waters
4. Avery Holtzmann
5. Gaspar de Sousa

In:
1. Bruno Battaglia
2. Jerry Luther
3. Leroy Brittain
4. Kevin Colley
5. Steve Marshall (but the zombie ghost version would work fine too)

Out:
1. Alexis Rainsford
2. Tony Durbin
3. Alan Hodges
4. Leonid Roderick
5. Avery Holtzmann

Yes.

pennst24 wrote:In:
1. Bruno Battaglia
2. Jerry Luther
3. Leroy Brittain
4. Kevin Colley
5. Steve Marshall (but the zombie ghost version would work fine too)

Out:
1. Alexis Rainsford
2. Tony Durbin
3. Alan Hodges
4. Leonid Roderick
5. Avery Holtzmann

Yes.

In:
1. Kevin Monroe - If he ends up winning the ARLA title this year, he's probably gonna move.
2. Rene Recarmier - He might be a rookie in ARLA, but he's got talent. He'll end up at Majestic, seems obvious.
3. Joseph Howard - Unless if he goes to the ASCC or stays in ARLA.
4. Kevin Dwyer - I think it's time for him to follow in his father's footsteps and bring the Dwyer name back to the TMMC.
5. Leslie Riggs - Unlike her B**** of a sister, she's actually capable of running well and not complain about bad days.

Out:
1. Allie Riggs - For the obvious reasons I said above this.
2. Tutino - Team Sucks, plain and simple.
3. Bobby Porteau - Hasn't really carried over his ARLA title success, plus Ethan Everett has been outrunning him especially as of late.
4. Trevor Carrington - 2 cars + a multitude of drivers = FAILURE
5. Luciano Soveral - Has been a disappointment to watch for a majority of the season, I think he's one and done.

Sorry if this goes off the driver topic but these are personal opionions.
In:

1. Drew Eisenman- probably the greatest story of all time.
2. JD Mcdermott full time.
3. Lasts years team rules.
4. M&J Racing
5. Bruno Battaglia- Wasn't he a rookie of the year in '08 or was that Arto?

Out:

1. Trevor Carrington Racing
2. Tutino
3. Dale Roswell- This is probably his last year.
4. Bobby Porteau- No success from ARLA.
5. I might get yelled at but, Independence Trophy.

Alta wrote:

pennst24 wrote:In:
1. Bruno Battaglia
2. Jerry Luther
3. Leroy Brittain
4. Kevin Colley
5. Steve Marshall (but the zombie ghost version would work fine too)

Out:
1. Alexis Rainsford
2. Tony Durbin
3. Alan Hodges
4. Leonid Roderick
5. Avery Holtzmann

Yes.

these two posts win the thread.

In: (My driver worked well with them, had no issues with them, or I just put them here under some other random reason)

1. A. Rainsford - As aggressive as she is, she and my driver worked well together up until my driver lost a tire in 10th.
2. Z. Ashby - Competitive with my driver, she let my driver have the position then worked with me to catch Everett.
3. T. Delgado - Magus (T. Delgado's Owner I think) gave my driver support, so I'll do the same for him.
4. M. Madrigal - Worked well with my driver during the qualifying rounds, no where to be seen during the main event.
5. E. Everett - Worked well with my driver when part of small draft pack, we caught the leaders before my driver lost a tire in 5th place and Everett was able to obtain the lead afterwards for the majority of the race.

Out: (Unpopular Drivers or Sore Losers/Over Aggressive Drivers are here)

1. A. Riggs - Unpopular, plus she would have spun me out if she had the opportunity... to be in the race XD
2. T. Durbin - Not having the best season, I believe that he would have shot with a different team or manufacturer, though that is my opinion.
3. B. Porteau - Not really having success in the big leagues, maybe he should stick it out in TM Lights or remain in ARLA
4. L. Roderick - Like Durbin, his team or his manufacturer may need some changes, nothing personal against them though.
5. L. Soveral - Stop complaining when you break the rules, if you can't follow them, then get out.

gwoodard41 wrote:Magus (T. Delgado's Owner I think) gave my driver support, so I'll do the same for him.

Magus is Tom Delgado.

gwoodard41 wrote:In: (My driver worked well with them, had no issues with them, or I just put them here under some other random reason)

1. A. Rainsford - As aggressive as she is, she and my driver worked well together up until my driver lost a tire in 10th.
2. Z. Ashby - Competitive with my driver, she let my driver have the position then worked with me to catch Everett.
3. T. Delgado - Magus (T. Delgado's Owner I think) gave my driver support, so I'll do the same for him.
4. M. Madrigal - Worked well with my driver during the qualifying rounds, no where to be seen during the main event.
5. E. Everett - Worked well with my driver when part of small draft pack, we caught the leaders before my driver lost a tire in 5th place and Everett was able to obtain the lead afterwards for the majority of the race.

Someone clearly didn't get the point of the thread

This topic has totally gone downhill...I believe the rules of this thread were to list drivers who weren't in Master Cup full time if you wanted to see them in Master Cup full time, not listing drivers who are already in there full time

In pennst24's case, troll is win, so his post is win

1. Rene Recarmier
2. Azuma Kazeyama
3. Vitaly Karpenko
4. Anthony/ Collin Evans
5. Anthony Griffith

Out
1. Charlie Waters
2. Bobby Porteau
3. Ethan Everett
4. Mike Whitmore
5. Bobby Porteau

In:
1. Tom Wetmore ( it would be nice to see him in TMMC again)
2. Tolyatti Full-Time
3. Brenda Riggs
4. An Austrian Driver ( c'mon when will that happen in TMMC?)
5. Jon Broughton (whatever happened to this guy?)

I might get raged at with the #1 slot

Out:
1-5. Zach Duff (I HAT HIM)

In:
1. Johnnie Ada (Russian's be hatin' on Rutledge Wood)
2. Chris Allen
3. Shane Lake
4. Grant Papp
5. Jozef Nowicki

In:
1.James Dalton(where did he disappear to?)
2.Hawk Slider(Here comes trouble)
3.Tulyatti or whatever that Russian team is called.
4.Jacob Eicholtz
5.Eric Jackson

Out:
1.Tutino.Full Stop.
2.Tony Durbin(cue haters)
3.Chris Allen
4.Ross Peterson
5.Zach Duff

teamwhiper wrote:In:


Out:

3.Chris Allen

Not even in. >

My list:

In:
1. Leslie Riggs
2. Lorne Roth
3. Allie Riggs
4. Greg Squid....I MEAN WOODARD
5. Rene Recarmier

Out:
1. Ethan Everett
2. Franz Redlich
3. Robert Dorian
4. Charlie Waters
5. Bobby Porteau

Alta wrote:

teamwhiper wrote:In:


Out:

3.Chris Allen

Not even in. >

My bad.

yay i got 2 votes

In:

1. Drew Eisenman
2. Johnnie Ada
3. Craig Cross (what ever happened to him?)
5. Chris Allen
5. Stephanie McGlynn

In:

1. Jacob Eichholtz
2. Brenda Riggs
3. Johnnie Ada
4. Chris Allen
5. Shane Lake

Notable: Drew Eisenman

Out:

1. IAN COOPER!!!!!1!!!
2. ZACH DUFF!!1!
3. TOM DELGADO!!!1!
4. IAN COOPER AGAIN!!!ONE!!!!
5. MORGAN HAMBURG!!!1!

Notable: Drew Eisenman as soon as he comes back.

Alta wrote:

teamwhiper wrote:In:


Out:

3.Chris Allen

Not even in. >:

I guess you're too mainstream.....

navycook75 wrote:

Alta wrote:

teamwhiper wrote:In:


Out:

3.Chris Allen

Not even in. >:

I guess you're too mainstream.....

Yup!

In:

-Packer Carroll in the #1 full time after Alexis Rainsford leaves. While I'm not trying to just because he owns the car Bruce drives in ARLA, and while that theory is likely as is, let's face it: he hasn't done terrible in that car.
-With a little more experience, I think Greg Woodard would do fairly well in the TMMC. He had an excellent run at Indianapolis while it lasted.

Yeah, that's it. I promised myself I wouldn't say Bruce Wilkinson.

Edited for language: 1st warning issued.

For those of you wondering where Johnnie Ada and Craig Cross went to, I believe the person that "controlled" them, a.k.a. Johnnie, is no longer active. I think.

In:
1. Ricky Flush
2. Shane Lake
3. James Dalton (One of my T-5 favorite drivers)
4. Danny Savin (Same as Dalton)
5. Anthony Evans !! (was going to put Ian Cooper in here, but that's Cynon's decision)

6. Also, Whitmore's Name 73 Paint Job !!

Out:
1. Dale Roswell (sorry Cooper !!)
2. Jacques Bouvier (just don't like him for some reason)
3. Adrian Devereaux (liked him at first, but he's too stuck up)
4. Franz Redlich (not sure why, just don't like him)
5. Charlie Waters (Antknee, put yourself back in that car lol)

DAWGFATHER wrote:yay i got 2 votes

3 for me!

Rykia_RKXK wrote:
In:
5. Anthony Evans !! (was going to put Ian Cooper in here, but that's Cynon's decision)

Out:
5. Charlie Waters (Antknee, put yourself back in that car lol)

This.

Rykia_RKXK wrote:6. Also, Whitmore's Name 73 Paint Job !!

I unfortunately lost the PSD for that car when my old painting drive emo'd back in the middle of 09.

Cynon wrote:

Rykia_RKXK wrote:6. Also, Whitmore's Name 73 Paint Job !!

I unfortunately lost the PSD for that car when my old painting drive emo'd back in the middle of 09.

TO THE DELOREAN!

gwoodard41 wrote:

DAWGFATHER wrote:yay i got 2 votes

3 for me!

my count has 3 for me now

navycook75 wrote:

Cynon wrote:

Rykia_RKXK wrote:6. Also, Whitmore's Name 73 Paint Job !!

I unfortunately lost the PSD for that car when my old painting drive emo'd back in the middle of 09.

TO THE DELOREAN!

That.

F1V1 wrote:
1. Johnnie Ada (Russian's be hatin' on Rutledge Wood)

what?!?!?
In [new]
1. Martin Boltano Jr.
2. Rene Recarmier
3. Travis Marshall
4. Mumba Kumangu
5. Nathan Ferguson
In [Returning]
1. Joseph Howard
2. Johnnie Ada
3. Anthony Evans
4. Bruno Battaglia
5. Tom Levin
Out
1. Mike Whitmore
2. Zelda Ashby
3. Dan Mackay
4. Charlie Waters
5. Luciano Soverol

In: Australian "Mad" Max Goose could give Marcos Leonard a run for his "crazy" money.

SnakePlissken wrote:In: Australian "Mad" Max Goose could give Marcos Leonard a run for his "crazy" money.

So he's an usual Australian redneck?

in (not in order)

1. Ricky Navarro reckless, but fast
2. Cyrus La Terza needs to go full time again
3. Edwin Schwartzlowski oh man, this guy is amazing
4. Leslie Riggs one of my favorite ARLA drivers, she deserves a full time ride in TMMC
5. Kevin Monroe go for the ARLA title bud!


out (still not in order)

1. Mike Whitmore he wrecked his teammate!!
2. Scott Studiler i rather see Danny Savin in that 23 car (no offense)
3. Charlie Waters too much recklessness.....
4. Franz Redlich the Germans have problems....
5. Bobby Porteau not living up to his ARLA Sucess...

Edwin Schwartzlowski has one arm, so it may work for ARLA, but the TMMC is a more realistice series, so I don't think it would work well. I'd much rather see Studiler or Redlich get a ride rather than Schwartzlowski or Navarro.

In:
1. Azuma Kazeyama (Best driver Tutino has had, highly underrated)
2. Palmer Stiles (Give the independents cup more prestige here)
3. Packer Carrol (Most Talented free agent out there)
4. Kraig Murmmert (Showed what kind of preformance that Bolden had)
5. Scott Bates running a Vamp Energy drink car (It looks good)


Out:
1. Robert Dorian (Didn't have much of a preformance in a average car)
2. Avery Holtzmann (Started off well, but dumb moves dropped his preformance)
3. Leon Kenniston (Was way outpaced by Savin, Darcy and Taube)
4. Bobby Porteau (I wouldn't mind seeing him with a new team, but he needs development time)
5. All the Volpi Drivers. (Alexis isn't coming back, and the team was nowhere without her.)

f1fan12 wrote:
In:
1. Azuma "Crash and Drama"

Fixed. You're Welcome

In:
1. Scott Hamilton
2. Brian Sendack
3. Kraig Mummertt
4. Chris Davenport
5. Drew Eisenmann

Out:
1. Mike Whitmore(If I really need to explain myself, Daytona)
2. Adrian Deverux(WAY too overcritical of drivers and tracks)
3. Jacques Bouiver(Above and lack of performance)
4. Zach Duff(Too aggresive and causes too many crashes, lack of performance)
5. Spot Vacated by Alexis Rainsford

FlashRod4 wrote:

f1fan12 wrote:
In:
1. Azuma "Crash and Drama"

Fixed. You're Welcome

In:
1. Scott Hamilton

Alllllllllllright then...will Hamilton be teaming with Steve Marshall or something?

Wow, many Charlie Waters haters!

antknee wrote:Wow, many Charlie Waters haters!

DAT WATERS GUY IZ A MEENIEBUTT!!!111 HE SOULD BE FIRE!!1111

A couple of votes for Thurston Blood and one for Bigsby Foote-- but no Rip Tyler fans out there?!

Cardinals5 wrote:

FlashRod4 wrote:

f1fan12 wrote:
In:
1. Azuma "Crash and Drama"

Fixed. You're Welcome

In:
1. Scott Hamilton

Alllllllllllright then...will Hamilton be teaming with Steve Marshall or something?

You forgot Benny Dwyer

unknown user wrote:

Cardinals5 wrote:

FlashRod4 wrote:

f1fan12 wrote:
In:
1. Azuma "Crash and Drama"

Fixed. You're Welcome

In:
1. Scott Hamilton

Alllllllllllright then...will Hamilton be teaming with Steve Marshall or something?

You forgot Benny Dwyer

Floyd Moss will join them.

unknown user wrote:

Cardinals5 wrote:

FlashRod4 wrote:

f1fan12 wrote:
In:
1. Azuma "Crash and Drama"

Fixed. You're Welcome

In:
1. Scott Hamilton

Alllllllllllright then...will Hamilton be teaming with Steve Marshall or something?

You forgot Benny Dwyer

Benny's dead. More than likely, however, it'll be Kevin.