Re: Touring Car Thread

[Milan655]

First time a Citroen is not on pole and..

http://www.fiawtcc.com/news/detail/id/3212

[RealRacingRoots]

It is the Salzburgring though. If the Citroens push too hard they will blow out the tires. It's one of the few tracks on the WTCC calendar where anything can happen.

[Milan655]

It is the Salzburgring though. If the Citroens push too hard they will blow out the tires. It's one of the few tracks on the WTCC calendar where anything can happen.

Even then, Citroen still win!

[BWard]

Colin Turkington starts on Pole for Race 1 today, Jason Plato is 2nd. Some big names are well down the order, Andrew Jordan is 13th, Matt Neal 14th and Alain Menu 15th.

[BWard]

Aron Smith has won Race 3 of the BTCC today at Oulton Park, while Colin Turkingon swept the first 2 races of today.

[Milan655]

Giovanardi had a nice 3rd race, could have had more if Menu hadn't tried it through Knickerbrook in Race 2.

[BWard]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

[RyanB06]

How stupid. Why couldn't they have issued a penalty then and there, instead of doing one after the fact? Nice to see BTCC officialdom is as consistent as NASCAR is.

Full disclosure: Barney supports Andrew Jordan and Matt Neal, two of Plato's rivals. Thus the LOL.

[Milan655]

How stupid. Why couldn't they have issued a penalty then and there, instead of doing one after the fact? Nice to see BTCC officialdom is as consistent as NASCAR is.

The BTCC have been consistent this year in adjourning penalties for illegal overtaking similar to that of Plato's bump on Turkington.

[RetrogradeRenegade]

Why couldn't they have issued a penalty then and there, instead of doing one after the fact?

Because the races are only 12 laps long.

[BWard]

Why couldn't they have issued a penalty then and there, instead of doing one after the fact?

Because the races are only 12 laps long.

Also the fact was the contact took place late in the race, so the Stewards wouldn't have had a lot of time to look at it straightaway.

[Ben Atkins]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

[Spannerhead29 (Nelson)]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

LOL.

[Milan655]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

New regulations for this year to limit bumping. A bit silly, considering the way drivers treated each other during the Super Touring era, but motorsport has changed...sadly.

[Ben Atkins]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

New regulations for this year to limit bumping. A bit silly, considering the way drivers treated each other during the Super Touring era, but motorsport has changed...sadly.

Yeah, it's the first I heard of it, honestly. It was kind of what gave BTCC it's character. Oh well, I'm sure they'll screw up a call and it'll be scraped in time.

[BWard]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

New regulations for this year to limit bumping. A bit silly, considering the way drivers treated each other during the Super Touring era, but motorsport has changed...sadly.

Yeah, it's the first I heard of it, honestly. It was kind of what gave BTCC it's character. Oh well, I'm sure they'll screw up a call and it'll be scraped in time.

No offence Ben but looking at the incident, to me it looked like Turkington hit his braking point but Plato misjudged it. I may never be a fan of Plato, but I don't think he meant to do it, but ultimately it really wasn't a legitimate passing move and the Stewards have to do something about it. But also, losing a place or two can always play a big outcome in the championship.

[Ben Atkins]

LOL.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114363

Jason Plato is demoted to 4th place, losing his podium place in Race 3 after bumping Colin Turkington out of 3rd place late in the Race.

... are you fucking kidding me?

Andrew Jordan can wreck Jason Plato for a win at Brands Hatch (last year) and keep his position (EDIT: I thought Jordan won the race, but Plato still won apparently), but Plato loses a position BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BUMP?!?

What a joke.

New regulations for this year to limit bumping. A bit silly, considering the way drivers treated each other during the Super Touring era, but motorsport has changed...sadly.

Yeah, it's the first I heard of it, honestly. It was kind of what gave BTCC it's character. Oh well, I'm sure they'll screw up a call and it'll be scraped in time.

No offence Ben but looking at the incident, to me it looked like Turkington hit his braking point but Plato misjudged it. I may never be a fan of Plato, but I don't think he meant to do it, but ultimately it really wasn't a legitimate passing move and the Stewards have to do something about it. But also, losing a place or two can always play a big outcome in the championship.

If it was intentional, then I'd understand, but if it was a mistake, then it really is a farce of a penalty. Just tell him to give him the position back at the time and that's that.

[Milan655]

I think Turkington got on the brakes slightly earlier. Either way, Plato would have had him eventually.

[Ben Atkins]

I think Turkington got on the brakes slightly earlier. Either way, Plato would have had him eventually.

He did get him in turn 1, but Turkington made a good move to get it back straight away. Ah well, it is what it is.

[BWard]

And from what I've heard, the International layout for Oulton Park may not be used again after several teams and drivers criticized the Racing as 'boring' after the lack of position changes during the 3 Races.

[BWard]

Get ready for this:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114722

[Nascar9fan]

Get ready for this:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114722

Plato should've gotten a worse penalty, because he just flat out wrecked Menu for no reason

[RetrogradeRenegade]

Way too many penalties at Croft. This is touring car racing, of course there's going to be cars running into each other. And yet, the one time there is a clear reason for a penalty, he gets away with a slap on the wrist. 

[BWard]

Way too many penalties at Croft. This is touring car racing, of course there's going to be cars running into each other. And yet, the one time there is a clear reason for a penalty, he gets away with a slap on the wrist. 

Am I gonna assume you are referring to Andrew Jordan on the last part? Not that it matters.

[BWard]

bump.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115282

Lots of penalties handed out after Snetterton.

[BWard]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115428

The 2015 BTCC Calendar has been released, with really the only change being that the Oulton Park Circuit will go back to the shorter Island version after the International Circuit produced very processional Racing this year.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115427

Lewis Hamilton's younger brother, Nicolas Hamilton who has a disability called Cerebral Palsy, is targeting a drive in the BTCC next year.

[BWard]

http://www.btcc.net/2014/09/19/luke-hines-joins-united-autosports/

Former BTCC Race winner Luke Hines will return to drive in the Series for the first time since 2005, driving a third car for United Autosports for the last 2 rounds of the 2014 season.

[BWard]

So this happened in Race 2 at Silverstone today:

[Ben Atkins]

Both Jason Plato and Sam Tordoff have left MG and Triple Eight, as Tordoff makes a surprising move to West Surrey Racing.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2014/12/10/sam-tordoff-joins-west-surrey-racing-for-2015/

There is speculation that Plato could be heading to West Surrey Racing too. With Triple Eight confirming that they have new sponsors for next year, Tesco have confirmed that they will stick with Plato, and with West Surrey looking for a new sponsor, make of that what you will...

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2014/12/10/triple-eight-mg-return-with-new-drivers-and-sponsors-in-2015/

[BWard]

There has never been quite the craziest Silly Season for BTCC in a long time.

[BWard]

BREAKING NEWS: Andrew Jordan will be Jason Plato's replacement at the MG Triple 8 team for 2015, bringing his Pirtek and Red Bull sponsorship with him.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117289

Nick Foster has announced that he has retired from Racing after only one podium in 4 years with WSR in the BTCC.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117297

[Ben Atkins]

You're an MG fan now then, Barney

It will be interesting to see where Turkington lands now. I was persuaded he was on his way to MG, but now I think it might be him, Plato and Tordoff at WSR now...

[BWard]

You're an MG fan now then, Barney

It will be interesting to see where Turkington lands now. I was persuaded he was on his way to MG, but now I think it might be him, Plato and Tordoff at WSR now...

Me being an MG Fan? Maybe, if they give him the best car possible then he could start winning more races and championships.

As for Turkington, it's possible he'll stay, depends on what happens to Rob Collard. If he's the one that gets replaced by Plato, then I could see him being Jordan's teammate at Triple 8.

[Milan655]

A lot of people have been saying Giovanardi could partner Jordan at Triple 8. There's also a chance that Andy Priaulx could drive for WSR although there could be clashes with his ELMS schedule.

[Ben Atkins]

A lot of people have been saying Giovanardi could partner Tordoff at Triple 8. There's also a chance that Andy Priaulx could drive for WSR although there could be clashes with his ELMS schedule.

Tordoff has already signed for WSR, Jordan's gone to Triple 8

[Milan655]

I just realised and edited as you posted that

[RetrogradeRenegade]

Given how Giovanardi was so comprehensively smashed by Mat Jackson last year, I don't see why Triple 8 would bother with him over drivers like Turkington or Jackson.

[Milan655]

Given how Giovanardi was so comprehensively smashed by Mat Jackson last year, I don't see why Triple 8 would bother with him over drivers like Turkington or Jackson.

His performance wasn't good in 2014, no, but when he first drove the Astra Sport Hatch, similar to the Focus, in 2006 it didn't suit his style of driving (although he was much, much better than he was this year) while when he changed to the saloon fwd Vectra in 2007 and 2008 he won the titles. Even more, they were also both done with Triple 8 so he has history with the time. Jackson deserves it but I would assume he's staying in the Motorbase Ford next year?

[RetrogradeRenegade]

Given how Giovanardi was so comprehensively smashed by Mat Jackson last year, I don't see why Triple 8 would bother with him over drivers like Turkington or Jackson.

His performance wasn't good in 2014, no, but when he first drove the Astra Sport Hatch, similar to the Focus, in 2006 it didn't suit his style of driving (although he was much, much better than he was this year) while when he changed to the saloon fwd Vectra in 2007 and 2008 he won the titles. Even more, they were also both done with Triple 8 so he has history with the time. Jackson deserves it but I would assume he's staying in the Motorbase Ford next year?

I dunno if a change of car will help Gio, it just doesn't seem like the NGTC regs suit him at all. Like you said, even when he struggled in 2006 it was nowhere near as bad as this year. It's a shame, but I'd rather see him leave and (maybe) find the success he deserves elsewhere than stay and get hammered for another year.

As for Jackson, I would've assumed he was going to stay with Motorbase for 2014, but they left it until Media Day to confirm he was staying, so I'm not sure what the situation's like there.

[Milan655]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117309

Priaulx makes a return to BTCC with WSR although seemingly he'll clash with USCC commitments.

In terms of 888, apparently looking for a younger driver so maybe Tingram?

[BWard]

Now I get the feeling that Turkington's gonna be the one shafted out of WSR I think.

[RetrogradeRenegade]

In terms of 888, apparently looking for a younger driver so maybe Tingram?

They'd be hard-pressed to find a driver much younger than Andy Jordan...

[BWard]

In terms of 888, apparently looking for a younger driver so maybe Tingram?

They'd be hard-pressed to find a driver much younger than Andy Jordan...

Ingram in my opinion will probably return to Speedworks in 2015.

[BWard]

CBS Sports to present Coverage of the BTCC from 2015.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/02/06/btcc-announces-new-tv-deal-in-north-america/

[Alta]

CBS Sports to present Coverage of the BTCC from 2015.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/02/06/btcc-announces-new-tv-deal-in-north-america/

Time to fill up my DVR.

This is good for me since my biggest issue with getting into BTCC hardcore is it being on at dawn over here in my part of America

[Ben Atkins]

Rob Collard has signed back with WSR, meaning Colin Turkington will not return to the team he won the championship with.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/02/13/rob-collard-completes-impressive-wsr-line-up/

Also leaves the question as to where Jason Plato will land...

[BWard]

Well, Plato's contract with MG expired last year so it's unsure for me where he may go. I'd like to see Turkington go to Triple 8 with Andrew Jordan but I don't think that would happen.

[Milan655]

Plato will have a contract somewhere, question is where Turks is going to?

[BWard]

Chris Stockton to sell his entire team to Motoring Company Automotive Brands.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/02/16/stockton-to-sell-power-maxed-racing-to-automotive-brands-group/

Also, interesting tweet from Jason Plato a few days ago...

https://twitter.com/jasonplato/status/566628309799550976

[BWard]

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