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Post by Pyrozooka0 Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:15 pm

I'd say:

Eight Bowl (I don't mind crapshoot races as long as they keep my attention, which they usually do)

Thornton (because Thornton, that's why. yes, I do realize how hard it would be to make a recap for)

Bethesdaring AKA Imolaring (same as above, being awesome is reason enough)

Laguna Seca (It would be awesome to see the TMMC guys tackle the corkscrew)

Rushmore Scenic Byway (why the hell not? Streets of New York wouldn't happen ever, and it has a TMMC race date)

Daytona Beach Course (could be repurposed to take place somewhere else)

Whatever that valcano track from a while ago was called (I think Ceej made it, but I am not sure): who said the Canon had to be 100% realistic? Batshit insanity has it's place too. (usually in ARLA drivers, not that I am complaining)





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Post by navycook75 Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:25 pm

Pyrozooka0 wrote:I'd say:

Eight Bowl (I don't mind crapshoot races as long as they keep my attention, which they usually do)

Thornton (because Thornton, that's why. yes, I do realize how hard it would be to make a recap for)

Bethesdaring AKA Imolaring (same as above, being awesome is reason enough)

Laguna Seca (It would be awesome to see the TMMC guys tackle the corkscrew)

Rushmore Scenic Byway (why the hell not? Streets of New York wouldn't happen ever, and it has a TMMC race date)

Daytona Beach Course (could be repurposed to take place somewhere else)

Whatever that valcano track from a while ago was called (I think Ceej made it, but I am not sure): who said the Canon had to be 100% realistic? Batshit insanity has it's place too. (usually in ARLA drivers, not that I am complaining)




Eight Bowl: ARLA Ran that in 2009 and originally passed it off as Buffalo Downs, Ceej later retconned that.

Thornton: are you high?

Bethesdaring: see above

Laguna Seca: I think Ceej ran there once (I think before he actually started the series though.)

Rushmore Scenic Byway: don't think it'll happen.

Daytona Beach Course: see above

Lava Mountain: see Thornton
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Post by Metro 6r4 Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:28 pm

Rattlesnake Point: I think that's what it's called. It needs a few tweaks on sandbox, one of the corners near the back needs to be wider as everyone runs wide off it. Other than that I think it's quite a good track.
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Post by Pyrozooka0 Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:24 pm

Any track from Race Track Central (now at Race Car Central) rocks.
So does all of the Kurt Morgan / Fortine tracks.

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Post by conrail1990 Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:52 pm

Cynon knows which track I would like to see run...
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Post by Lucstar88 Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:30 pm

Circuit Gilles Villeneuve or MONZA
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Post by gone-sovereign Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:41 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Circuit Gilles Villeneuve or MONZA

There isn't a final version of either of those tracks, unless you want to use the unfinished Beta Montreal at RevampedReloaded or the glitchy as all hell GPL Monza.

Also, I second what Dan said about some of those suggestions. I really hope those were April Fools jokes. Why on earth would you run any sort of TM canon race at Fire Mountain? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Sparkz47 Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:31 pm

I think Thornton could actually be pretty interesting for a canon race, with some tweaks in sandbox to make it more realistic (like putting a guardrail in front of that gargantuan quarry, or just getting rid of it all together).
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Post by Cynon Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:28 am

Pyrozooka0 wrote:Any track from Race Track Central (now at Race Car Central) rocks.
So does all of the Kurt Morgan / Fortine tracks.

The Kurt Morgan speedway/road courses are not an option. They're pretty dumb.

The only reasonable suggestion in here (other than saying tracks from a certain site...) so far is Rattlesnake Point... and the reason Circuit Gilles Villeneuve isn't is because there is a glitch spot in turn 1 that causes NR to crash... that and the track is really dull in NR...

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Post by BWard Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:42 am

Bristol - I know it did host a TM Lights Race once, but it's just an awesome track. In my opinion, it should be used more often for TM-Canon Races.
Phoenix - I'm not sure it's hosted any kind of Canon Race before, so could this be a good option of track?
Cleveland - I hope someone agrees with me on this one, this track feels lonely, so I think it should have a chance.
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Post by Ben Atkins Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:58 am

BWardboy88 wrote:Bristol - I know it did host a TM Lights Race once, but it's just an awesome track. In my opinion, it should be used more often for TM-Canon Races.
Phoenix - I'm not sure it's hosted any kind of Canon Race before, so could this be a good option of track?
Cleveland - I hope someone agrees with me on this one, this track feels lonely, so I think it should have a chance.

Cleveland hosted Formula Overdrive last year, so that's had some usage.

I'd like to see Phoenix and Richmond used in the TM Canon. I'd totally like to see Joshua Tree used as well... because that track isn't pain. At all.

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Post by BWard Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:12 am

Ben Atkins wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Bristol - I know it did host a TM Lights Race once, but it's just an awesome track. In my opinion, it should be used more often for TM-Canon Races.
Phoenix - I'm not sure it's hosted any kind of Canon Race before, so could this be a good option of track?
Cleveland - I hope someone agrees with me on this one, this track feels lonely, so I think it should have a chance.

Cleveland hosted Formula Overdrive last year, so that's had some usage.

I'd like to see Phoenix and Richmond used in the TM Canon. I'd totally like to see Joshua Tree used as well... because that track isn't pain. At all.

What I meant by Cleveland was the same thing I said about Bristol, I know it has already been used but I think it should be used more often that they are right now.
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Post by BWard Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:14 am

I also really wanna see Bumpdrafin SS get a place on a TM-Canon Schedule, along with Dover and Nashville too.
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Post by Ben Atkins Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:17 am

BWardboy88 wrote:I also really wanna see Bumpdrafin SS get a place on a TM-Canon Schedule, along with Dover and Nashville too.

Nashville will be race two of the Formula Overdrive race this season, and Dover was used for RROL. I considered using Bumpdraftin' SS for the Dash Cup season finale in 2012, but I chose New York Autoring instead.

Also, I agree, Cleveland should be used more. I also think Sebring should be used a big more, while on the topic of American roadies Razz

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Post by BWard Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:24 am

Ben Atkins wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:I also really wanna see Bumpdrafin SS get a place on a TM-Canon Schedule, along with Dover and Nashville too.

Nashville will be race two of the Formula Overdrive race this season, and Dover was used for RROL. I considered using Bumpdraftin' SS for the Dash Cup season finale in 2012, but I chose New York Autoring instead.

Also, I agree, Cleveland should be used more. I also think Sebring should be used a big more, while on the topic of American roadies Razz

Also, I think the old ARLA Thunder Trucks once raced at Dover before too.
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Post by Joshua Michaels Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:24 am

Oxford Plains Speedway or Beech Ridge.
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Post by Tigerman Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:33 am

Coca-Cola: It's a NR2003 originial.
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Post by gwoodard41 Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:07 am

Tigerman wrote:Coca-Cola: It's a NR2003 originial.

I believe it was canonized by calling it the Delano Superspeedway

http://tmpedia.wikkii.com/wiki/Delano_Superspeedway
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Post by Tigerman Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:45 am

gwoodard41 wrote:
Tigerman wrote:Coca-Cola: It's a NR2003 originial.

I believe it was canonized by calling it the Delano Superspeedway

http://tmpedia.wikkii.com/wiki/Delano_Superspeedway

Oh ok, I found it.
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Post by f1fan12 Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:04 am

BWardboy88 wrote:Bristol - I know it did host a TM Lights Race once, but it's just an awesome track. In my opinion, it should be used more often for TM-Canon Races.
Phoenix - I'm not sure it's hosted any kind of Canon Race before, so could this be a good option of track?
Cleveland - I hope someone agrees with me on this one, this track feels lonely, so I think it should have a chance.

My opinions on the tracks you've suggested!



Michigan International- Kind of like the old Blue Ridge Speedway.
Quincy (With an edit)- I would like to know how hard it would be, to put Lights around the track
Barber Motorsports Park- This would be interesting for TMMC
Pocono- I would like to see Pocono 2012 be incarnated into the canon
VIR- It would be interesting
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Post by Metro 6r4 Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:07 pm

I was going to suggest VIR as well, but I think it has already hosted a round once?
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Post by Backmarker Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:47 pm

Joshua Michaels wrote:Oxford Plains Speedway
The ARLA Elite Series and FARCE are both going there this year.
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Post by navycook75 Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:40 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:I was going to suggest VIR as well, but I think it has already hosted a round once?
yes, TM Junior series in 2009
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Post by Joshua Michaels Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:16 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:
Joshua Michaels wrote:Oxford Plains Speedway
The ARLA Elite Series and FARCE are both going there this year.

*Faints of awesomeness* THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME!!!
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Post by Pyrozooka0 Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:19 pm

Back with more suggestions, hopefully these aren't dumb

Delta International Raceway
Valkenburg Speed (alternate configuration for vnukovo?)
Long Beach
Carmen Park
Oldring
Widowmaker (I like superspeedway/road course hybrids like this and Papyrus AKA Walthram)
Corl (see above)
The recreations of Bullrun and Red Rock are pretty cool
Tros Riveres
Derek's Moto-Drome Raceway Park
Fujita (yes, I am insane, thanks for asking!)
Hillside
Muskogee
Ford Test Track (renamed)
Zen Joltis (5-Wide, FUCK YEAH!)
JGIR (also renamed)
Bell Hill
Freeway J9
Maplevalley
Spring Hill

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Post by Tigerman Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:21 pm

Yes for Zen Joltis.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:06 pm

Clearly TMMC should run a BoneCrusher Grand Prix.
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Post by PackerMan71 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:35 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Clearly TMMC should run a BoneCrusher Grand Prix.

How about let's not and say we did. Razz
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Post by Pyrozooka0 Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:26 am

PackerMan71 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Clearly TMMC should run a BoneCrusher Grand Prix.

How about let's not and say we did. Razz

Yeah. Bonecrusher would make a way better ARLA track, anyway Laughing

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Post by Rykia Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:40 pm

I'm surprised no one has said Isle of Mann yet. Or a return to Lake Afton.

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Post by Metro 6r4 Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:51 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote:I'm surprised no one has said Isle of Mann yet. Or a return to Lake Afton.
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Post by Tanrar Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:56 pm

Highway 52.
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Post by gone-sovereign Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:17 pm

Milan GPL.
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Post by BWard Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:26 pm

High Road
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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:17 pm

North Point Country Club.



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Post by Pyrozooka0 Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:50 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote: Or a return to Lake Afton.


If that happened, all would be right with the world!

That is one of my favorite moments from ARLA, and now that Team Burr and The "Racing" Team are around, a return would only be even better.

where can I find out more about this north point track? No luck on google.

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Post by Joshua Michaels Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:25 pm

Martinsville Banked or Talledega No Walls
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Post by Sparkz47 Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:41 pm

Martinsville
COTA
Delano
Thornton
Eldora
Nurburgring (GP Circuit or Nordschleife)
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Post by RyanB06 Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:51 pm

The RROL ran at Martinsville last year.

COTA doesn't exist for N2003 (yet).

Eldora is on the ARLA (and NRC) schedule this year.
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Post by navycook75 Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:53 pm

RyanB06 wrote:The RROL ran at Martinsville last year.

COTA doesn't exist for N2003 (yet).

Eldora is on the ARLA (and NRC) schedule this year.
ASCC ran at Martinsville as well.

most of these tracks have been run, you just have to look at other TM Canon leagues.
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Post by Dan Mackay Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:02 am

high plains
lime rock
edmonton nu layout (not made yet but being worked on)

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Post by Sparkz47 Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:20 am

RyanB06 wrote:The RROL ran at Martinsville last year.

COTA doesn't exist for N2003 (yet).

Eldora is on the ARLA (and NRC) schedule this year.

I thought someone had already churned out a COTA. Well, it'll happen sooner or later.
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Post by Ben Atkins Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:14 am

Dan Mackay wrote:high plains
lime rock
edmonton nu layout (not made yet but being worked on)


Lime Rock's on the Dash Cup schedule. Would like to see Edmonton's new layout somewhere, though.

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Post by BWard Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:29 am

Adelaide
Barber Motorsport Park
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Post by TheMayor44 Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:53 am

As cool as it would be to have one of the Bethesdaring on any of the TM-Canon series' schedules, I admit it's really more suited for online racing than anything else, and if any offline event were to be run there it would probably be best for sportscars, maybe Indycars.

I love Oldring, but for NR2003 it's not as good as it could be; AI like to go off on the last ess before the front stretch.

I like Thornton, but without some significant edits it probably won't happen.

There is a version of Monza that is the 10k layout with the oval, AI runs fairly well except on one corner. Some playing around with the .ini file could probably fix that.

Columbia is on the NRC schedule (yay!), and that's one track I'll constantly edit until it's perfect.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:16 pm

I was thinking something like a one-off (possibly non championship) enduro at the Bethesdaring resembling the nurburgring 24 hours with the TMMC or with a canon version of IMSA like the Limerock 6 hours.
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Post by TheMayor44 Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:59 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:I was thinking something like a one-off (possibly non championship) enduro at the Bethesdaring resembling the nurburgring 24 hours with the TMMC or with a canon version of IMSA like the Limerock 6 hours.

At some point I'll get a new computer, when that happens ill have the horsepower to get good framerates with Fraps and I'll do an endurance race there. If I have time maybe a sports prototype series as well. Right now I wouldn't be able to do it justice.

There will be two alternate configurations as well, one that avoids the banking and is a bit more modern, and a shorter GP-Strecke.
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Post by f1fan12 Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:12 pm

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Post by SpeedDemon37 Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:24 am

Race Car Central Raceway Park, with better cameras
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Post by TheRealNathNath Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:53 pm

Clarendon for Formula Overdrive. Also, SGMP is a pretty good short track.
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