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Post by PKligBKFan Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:45 pm

This is around the time I usually do this.

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners:
Most wins in a season
Upset of the year:
Disappointments:
Best race of 2012:
Worst race of 2012:
Retirees at season end:
Driver of the year:
Reject of the year:
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season:
Champion:
Runner-up:

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners:
Most wins in a season
Upset of the year:
Disappointments:
Best race of 2012:
Worst race of 2012:
Retirees at season end:
Driver of the year:
Reject of the year:
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season:
Champion:
Runner-up:

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners:
Most wins in a season
Upset of the year:
Disappointments:
Best race of 2012:
Worst race of 2012:
Retirees at season end:
Driver of the year:
Reject of the year:
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season:
Champion:
Runner-up:
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Post by Alta Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:00 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almiorla,
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer
Upset of the year: Junior breaks the 4 year rule by winning again.
Disappointments: Brad Keselowski (I have the worst feeling Roush is going to screw them), Joey Logano, Kasey Kahne
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2012: Richmond
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Kasey Kahne
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Michael Annett, Brian Scott, Johanna Long
Most wins in a season: Regan Smith
Upset of the year: Johanna Long stuns the world with a surprising win.
Disappointments: Eillott Sadler, Brian Scott
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: Indy
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Eillott Sadler
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brian Scott
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Jeb Burton, Miguel Paludo
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters
Upset of the year: One-off drivers wins Eldora
Disappointments: Ron Hornaday,
Best race of 2012: Eldora/Mosport
Worst race of 2012: Charlotte
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters
Reject of the year: Ron Hornaday
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brennan Newberry, Ron Hornaday
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: Joey Coulter

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Post by BWard Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:15 pm

I really only mostly follow the Sprint Cup, so I guess I'll go with that one.

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Most wins in a season: Tony Stewart
Upset of the year: Danica Patrick winning a race.
Disappointments: Matt Kenseth, I don't think his move to JGR will be the best.
Best race of 2012: Talladega
Worst race of 2012: Texas
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte
Driver of the year: Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Reject of the year: Joey Logano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
Champion: Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Runner-up: Brad Keselowski


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Post by Ben Atkins Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:28 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson
Upset of the year: Juan Pablo doesn't hit the jet dryer.
Disappointments: See above.
Best race of 2012: Talladega Fall
Worst race of 2012: Texas
Retirees at season end: Mark Martin
Driver of the year: Matt Kenseth
Reject of the year: Kasey Kahne
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some random backmarker
Champion: Matt Kenseth
Runner-up: Jimmie Johnson

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett
Most wins in a season: Joey Logano (-_-)
Upset of the year: Michael Annett actually doing something
Disappointments: Kyle Busch (again)
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: Anything other than a RC or SS
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch (again)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some random backmarker
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Elliott Sadler

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters
Upset of the year: I can't think of one lol
Disappointments: Johnny Sauter
Best race of 2012: Daytona
Worst race of 2012: IDK, hard to tell with trucks
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Miguel Paludo
Reject of the year: Ron Hornaday
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Just like the other two, random backmarker
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: Nelson Piquet Jr.

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Post by Backmarker Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:30 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Almirola
Most wins in a season: Carl Edwards
Upset of the year: Danica outperforms Stenhouse and wins ROTY
Disappointments: RCR
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2012: Kansas
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte, Jeff Burton
Driver of the year: Carl Edwards
Reject of the year: Kurt Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: One of the BK Racing drivers, whoever they are next year
Champion: Carl Edwards
Runner-up: Jimmie Johnson

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Brain Scoot
Most wins in a season: Kyle Busch
Upset of the year: Sam Hornish Jr. wins 3 or more races
Disappointments: Anyone without a ton of cash not winning
Best race of 2012: Road America
Worst race of 2012: Indy
Retirees at season end: Jeff Green
Driver of the year: Trevor Bon-yay
Reject of the year: John Blakenship
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: IDK
Champion: Austin Dillon
Runner-up: Trevor Bon-yay

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo, Matt Crafton
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon
Upset of the year: John Wes Townley being competitive on a regular basis.
Disappointments: NTS Motorsports
Best race of 2012: Eldora
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Todd Bodine
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: Tim George, Jr.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Max Gresham (Again)
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: Timothy Peters

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Post by BBoy Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:52 pm

For now, just Cup predictions...

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson
Upset of the year: Ricky Stenhouse Jr. makes the Chase in his rookie season
Disappointments: Jeff Burton, Stewart-Haas Racing
Best race of 2013: Daytona
Worst race of 2013: Indianapolis
Retirees at season end: Dave Blaney (to focus on Ryan's career), Mark Martin, Bobby Labonte, Jeff Burton
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Joey Logano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Jeff Gordon


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Post by iAMBADDATGAMES Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:01 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer
Upset of the year: Bobby Labonte wins a race
Disappointments: Denny Hamlin
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2012: Auto Club
Retirees at season end: Joe Nemechek
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Tony Stewart

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Brain Scott, Cole Whitt, Parker Kligerman, Ryan Blaney
Most wins in a season: Kyle Busch
Upset of the year: Brian Scott Wins 3 races and the championship
Disappointments: Elliott Sadler
Best race of 2012: Road America
Worst race of 2012: Atlanta
Retirees at season end: Jeff Green
Driver of the year: Brian Scott
Reject of the year: Hal Martin
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Random driver
Champion: Brian Scott
Runner-up: Brian Vickers

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo, Jeb Burton
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon
Upset of the year: John Wes Townley wins a race
Disappointments: Ron Hornaday Jr.
Best race of 2012: Eldora
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday Jr.
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: Tim George, Jr.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Max Gresham, Ron Hornaday Jr.
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: Joey Coulter

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Post by Dan Mackay Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:23 pm

inb4 eldora gets trolled by someone bringing a godly truck setup specifically for it, khi at dega style
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Post by Alpineopossum Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:45 pm

This is around the time I usually do this.

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Blaney or maybe Almirola
Most wins in a season: Carl Edwards
Upset of the year: Dave Blaney wins at Talladega (could also happen to Nemechek, Gilliland, Ragan, etc.), Ambrose makes the chase
Disappointments: Jeff Burton, Denny Hamlin
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2012: Las Vegas
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Carl Edwards
Reject of the year: Joey Logano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Joey Logano or David Ragan
Champion: Jimmie Johnson
Runner-up: Carl Edwards

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Jacques Villeneuve
Most wins in a season: Some Buschwacker
Upset of the year: Mike Bliss wins a race (or two) and finished in 6th or above. Jacques Villeneuve winning on a road course, someone has a career ending injury at Talladega or Daytona
Disappointments: Brian Scott not winning a race
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: California
Retirees at season end: Probably none but maybe Jeff Green
Driver of the year: Trevor Bayne
Reject of the year: Blatentshit (John Blakenship)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Hal Martin, Brian Scott, or Blatentshit
Champion: Trevor Bayne
Runner-up: Brian Vickers

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:
I don't really follow this so some will be blank.
First-time winners: None
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters
Upset of the year: Whoever wins at Eldora.
Disappointments: Ron Hornaday
Best race of 2012: no idea
Worst race of 2012: no idea
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters
Reject of the year: no idea
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Max Gresham, Ron Hornaday, maybe Johnny Sauter (I hope not)
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: no idea...maybe Matt Crafton has a breakout season?

General Predictions.
- TriStar sacks their pay drivers (Hal Martin and Blatent Sh!t) when their cash runs out.
- Mike Bliss gets TriStar's first win in their two decades of existence
- Joey Logano is terrible at Penske
- Danica Patrick has a mediocre rookie season
- Jacques Villeneuve or Max Papis wins at Mid Ohio.
- Someone should put Tommy Byrne in a car for Mid Ohio, because he is considered to know Mid Ohio better than anyone in the world (he works for the track and runs on it daily. Sadly I highly doubt he will get into a car)
- Ron Hornaday is fired and retires from racing without a ride a la Sterling Marlin at the end of the year.
- Mayfield reappears in another form of racing (probably USAC)
- Brian Scott is a disaster at RCR
- Jimmie Johnson and Carl Edwards battle for the championship.
- We never hear from John King again
- Someone will be seriously injured in Talladega. It won't be fatal but it will be the RL equivalent of Woody Watts, as in they can't drive again. Not to be dark and I hope I'm wrong. Most likely in the Nationwide cars due to high speeds and many incompetent drivers.
- At the nationwide Daytona or Talladega race, Mike Bliss and Joe Nemechek take off from the rest of the field in a tandem draft on the last lap and one of them wins.
- David Ragan loses his ride at the end of the season.
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Post by TheRealNathNath Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:04 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Stenhouse (Almirola will come SO close)
Most wins in a season: Matt Kenseth and Clint Bowyer (4)
Upset of the year:
-Stenhouse finishes 14th in points, and misses chase by 2 points.
-Blaney pushes Logano to the win at one Plate race, if so most likely the 500
-Jeff Gordon has 5 wins (see below)
-Danica, despite failure, collects 2 top 10's and is praised (Glen, some Plate race)
-Stenhouse finishes in the top 5 in the last 3 races, but with only one win, 14th won't be enough.
-the 500's top 5 due to a late wreck: Logano, Kurt Busch, Blaney, Kyle Busch, Vickers.
Disappointments:
-Gordon's luck hits him in the mid-season, but 2 early wins seal his chase, with and 18th place points finish. Then uncharacteristic mistakes cost him his 5th title.
-Kahne is consistent, but finishes 2nd 4 times, and bad luck down the strech and misses the chase
-Greg Biffle (see above)
-Montoya doesn't suck (maybe makes chase)
-Kyle Busch (see above)
-Lolgano (see above, but misses chase)
-BK racing gets top 5's in 2 plate races (maybe
-McMurray does suck
-Menard mediocres to somehow make the chase in 12th with a win at some snooze fest.
-Ambrose finishes 11th with 5 podiums, but no wins and no chase.
Best race of 2012: Martinsville, Talladega
Worst race of 2012: Every 1.5-mile race except chase Kansas
Retirees at season end: Blaney if he has bad luck, Bobby Labonte if he wins, or somehow does worse.
Driver of the year: Truex with 20 Top 10s before the chase, but no wins.
Reject of the year: Newman Dan-an-an-an-an-an-an-an-anica
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Newman (screws up bad on and off the track)
Champion: Truex after 26, Bowyer in the next 10
Runner-up: Bowyer after 26, Gordon after 10 (screws himself early in the chase trying to retaliate, wins 3 times, but wrecks at Pheonix)

-EGR downsizes to one, and the position battle will be hard, but McMurray gets a huge contract at a team like Petty or Penske and JPM gets car
-RCR mediocres its way to two chasers; no wins.
-Petty gets bigger sponsor contracts for 2014, maybe some EGR's lost ones
-Regan Smith gets a ride late season, maybe switching on-off with Burton or in the 55 or some SHR car.
-Labonte trolls the Martinsville chase race by winning

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Regan Smith, Ryan Blaney, Ryan Truex, Wallace Jr.
Most wins in a season: Smith, cuppie, cuppie, cuppie, cuppie
Upset of the year: Johanna Long
Disappointments: Every race that's not Daytona, Dega, or a road course.
Best race of 2012: X-way tie with (see above)
Worst race of 2012: 2/3 the races.
Retirees at season end: HOPEFULLY some owner of some crap-team.
Driver of the year: Smith
Reject of the year: Allgaier
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Malsam gets a better ride.
Champion: Bayne if he's elligible
Runner-up: Sadler (Regan Smith will miss a few races, the top 3 will be TIGHT, making Homestead watchable.)

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Disappointments: At least one driver is Seriously hurt in a Plate crash
Best race of 2012: Nationwide Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: Nationwide Kansas
Driver of the year: Brad Sweet starts 25 of 32 races, finishes 5th in Nationwide points.
Reject of the year: Ryan Newman
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Newman
Champion of our hearts: Johanna Long
Runner-up (see above): Darrell Wallace Jr. doing well
Champion of the Chick-fil-A-holes: Newman
Runner-up (see above): Jeff Gordon, Boris Said
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Post by Mother of Invention Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:12 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Almirola
Most wins in a season: a Joe Gibbs Driver
Upset of the year: Almirola
Disappointments: Roush
Best race of 2012: Dega or surprise Kansas
Worst race of 2012: Texas
Retirees at season end: Ken Schrader
Driver of the year: Denny Hamlin
Reject of the year: Greg Biffle
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Anyone in the #32
Champion: Denny Hamlin
Runner-up: Kahne
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Post by FlashRod4 Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:29 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almorola, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer(5)
Upset of the year: Marcos Ambrose making the chase
Disappointments: Kurt Busch, Jeff Gordon, Bobby Labonte
Best race of 2012: Talladega(Spring)
Worst race of 2012: Fontana
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte(PLEASE!!), Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Kurt Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Dale Jr.

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Parker Kligerman, Michael Annett
Most wins in a season: Brad Keselowski(10)
Upset of the year: Parker Kligerman
Disappointments: Travis Pastrana
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Elliott Sadler
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Elliott Sadler
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Elliott Sadler
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo, Jon Wes Townley
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon(4)
Upset of the year: Jon Wes Townley
Disappointments: Timothy Peters
Best race of 2012: Eldora
Worst race of 2012: Bristol
Retirees at season end: Todd Bodine
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Todd Bodine
Champion:Ty Dillon
Runner-up: Miguel Paludo
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Post by crl Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:59 pm

hndrkguava24 wrote:

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Regan Smith, Ryan Blaney, Ryan Truex, Wallace Jr.
Most wins in a season: Smith, cuppie, cuppie, cuppie, cuppie
Upset of the year: Johanna Long
Disappointments: Every race that's not Daytona, Dega, or a road course.
Best race of 2012: X-way tie with (see above)
Worst race of 2012: 2/3 the races.
Retirees at season end: HOPEFULLY some owner of some crap-team.
Driver of the year: Smith
Reject of the year: Allgaier
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Malsam gets a better ride.
Champion: Bayne if he's elligible
Runner-up: Sadler (Regan Smith will miss a few races, the top 3 will be TIGHT, making Homestead watchable.)

ANY
Disappointments: At least one driver is Seriously hurt in a Plate crash
Best race of 2012: Nationwide Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2012: Nationwide Kansas
Driver of the year: Brad Sweet starts 25 of 32 races, finishes 5th in Nationwide points.
Reject of the year: Ryan Newman
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Newman
Champion of our hearts: Johanna Long
Runner-up (see above): Darrell Wallace Jr. doing well
Champion of the Chick-fil-A-holes: Newman
Runner-up (see above): Jeff Gordon, Boris Said

Uh, Homestead last month?

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Post by AntmanB Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:13 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Almirola, Stenhouse Somehow
Most wins in a season: Jimmeh
Upset of the year: Moldy Bread wins the 500
Disappointments: Brad K and Crybaby Busch miss chase
Best race of 2012: one of the Roadies again
Worst race of 2012: California, again
Retirees at season end: Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott
Driver of the year: Harvick
Reject of the year: DANICA DANICA DANICA
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Boobie LaBoobie
Champion: Jimmeh is gonna have an off chase again, i say Hamlin
Runner-up: Dale Jr

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Annett, Klingerman, Colle Whitt , RYan Blaney
Most wins in a season: Kez
Upset of the year: Ryan Blaney wins Daytona
Disappointments: Danica fails to run a single race
Best race of 2012: Road America
Worst race of 2012: California
Retirees at season end: Sadler, MIke Harmon finally
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Brian Scott Again
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brian SCott
Champion: REgan Smith
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: NOne
Most wins in a season: TY DIllon
Upset of the year: Eldora actually gets run
Disappointments: Mosport not run in the rain
Best race of 2012: Mosport
Worst race of 2012: Texas
Retirees at season end: Norm Benning(finally)
Driver of the year: TY Dillon
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine again
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Todd Bodine
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: Miguel Paludo without winning a single race
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Post by Electric Wolf Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:18 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: None
Most wins in a season: 48 Jimmie Johnson (5)
Upset of the year: One of the #55 drivers wins a race and a Front Row Motorsports car finishes 2nd or 3rd at an SS like the 2011 '500'.
Disappointments: Denny Hamlin, Joey Logano, Jeff Burton
Best race of 2012: An SS
Worst race of 2012: Most of the schedule
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton, Bobby Labonte, Dave Blaney, Terry Labonte
Driver of the year: Kevin Harvick
Reject of the year: Can't honestly predict this
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Pay drivers/backmarkers
Champion: 29 Kevin Harvick
Runner-up: 48 Jimmie Johnson

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Parker Kligerman, Brian Scott?
Most wins in a season: 6 Trevor Bayne/3 Austin Dillon (4 each as long as Cuppiesdon'twinlol)
Upset of the year: Kligerman manages to pull off a win on a 1.5-mile track or two.
Disappointments: Elliott Sadler, Justin Allgaier
Best race of 2012: SS's and RC's
Worst race of 2012: Rest of the schedule
Retirees at season end: Jeff Green
Driver of the year: Austin Dillon
Reject of the year: None
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Pay drivers/backmarkers
Champion: 3 Austin Dillon
Runner-up: 6 Trevor Bayne

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Brendan Gaughan, Jake Crum
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon (4)
Upset of the year: Chris Fontaine wins at an SS Coulter wins 2 or 3 races to try and catch Dillon in the title, but to no avail.
Disappointments: Miguel Paludo, Brendan Gaughan
Best race of 2012: Mosport/Bowmansville
Worst race of 2012: 3/4ths of the schedule
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday, Todd Bodine?, Norm Benning
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: John Wreck Townley
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Pay drivers/backmarkers
Champion: 3 Ty Dillon
Runner-up: ?? Joey Coulter

Alta wrote:Champion: Clint Bowyer
First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Johanna Long

Please tell me this is a troll.

Alta wrote:Disappointments: Eillott Sadler

BWardboy88 wrote:First-time winners: Arica Almirola

Who are these people? Somebody else said "Brain Scoot" earlier. Laughing

Alpineopossum wrote:- Mike Bliss gets TriStar's first win in their two decades of existence
- We never hear from John King again
- Someone will be seriously injured in Talladega. It won't be fatal but it will be the RL equivalent of Woody Watts, as in they can't drive again.

iAMBADDATGAMES wrote:Upset of the year: Brian Scott Wins 3 races and the championship

...Are you serious?

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Post by Tanrar Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:26 am

Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:Champion: Clint Bowyer
First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Johanna Long

Please tell me this is a troll.

No, Clint Bowyer can't POSSIBLY win a title in cup even though he finished 2nd in points with three wins last year, beating out Jimmie Johnson despite being "mathematically ineligible". Can't happen. Nope.
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Post by Alta Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:31 am

Casey Lester wrote:

Alta wrote:Champion: Clint Bowyer
First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Johanna Long

Please tell me this is a troll.

Alta wrote:Disappointments: Eillott Sadler

BWardboy88 wrote:First-time winners: Arica Almirola

Who are these people? Somebody else said "Brain Scoot" earlier. Laughing

Alpineopossum wrote:- Mike Bliss gets TriStar's first win in their two decades of existence
- We never hear from John King again
- Someone will be seriously injured in Talladega. It won't be fatal but it will be the RL equivalent of Woody Watts, as in they can't drive again.

iAMBADDATGAMES wrote:Upset of the year: Brian Scott Wins 3 races and the championship

...Are you serious?


Clint Bowyer won 3 races and finished 2nd in point this year...I don't know who could be a better choice when Roush is probably gonna screw Penske and Jimmie's chase streak is effectively done. I don't know what you've been watching but Bowyer is the #1 driver of that team.

If the Roush deal is true and their equipment is good as it's been with Stenhouse then Pastrana has a good shot at winning, Johanna might not win but weirder things have happened so it never hurts to be hopeful for a driver you like

*Elliott. Accidental misspelling...Everyone makes mistakes...get over it.

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Post by navycook75 Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:40 am

Casey Lester wrote:

Alta wrote:Champion: Clint Bowyer
First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Johanna Long

Please tell me this is a troll.
I know Tanner and Alta did this already, but Bowyer has proven to do pretty damn good in MWR equipment.

also, Johanna has shown that she can do well in iffy equipment, and Pastrami has been dong very well in his Nationwide tenure so far, so what you may call a Troll is actually possible.
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Post by Electric Wolf Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:45 am

Bowyer can win the title, but based on MWR's consistency and ability to run with the top drivers week in and week out, it's highly unlikely. Shouldn't have included it with the NNS first-time winners...
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Post by navycook75 Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:49 am

Casey Lester wrote:Bowyer can win the title, but based on MWR's consistency and ability to run with the top drivers week in and week out, it's highly unlikely. Shouldn't have included it with the NNS first-time winners...
23 top 10's in the 2012 season, 10 top 5's, and 3 wins.

unlikely my ass.

Also, Brendan Gaughan has wins in the Truck Series already.
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Post by Alta Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:01 am

Casey Lester wrote:Bowyer can win the title, but based on MWR's consistency and ability to run with the top drivers week in and week out, it's highly unlikely. Shouldn't have included it with the NNS first-time winners...
Did you watch Cup this year? The man was up front almost every race and looked pretty damn impressive...If MWR keeps what they had this year they will be a force to be reckonned wirh

I find it funny you criticize my wishful thinking/trend noticing. So in turn let's break down your post.

Disappointments: Denny Hamlin, Joey Logano, Jeff Burton
Champion: 29 Kevin Harvick

So one RCR car is going to win the title while the other flounders, I know that it seems like Burton is on his way out but i think RCR will pay attention to all of his cars

Most wins in a season: 48 Jimmie Johnson (5)
Runner-up: 48 Jimmie Johnson
Unless Harvick ties in your scenario, i don't see how you can win the title in today's Nascar with out having the most wins overall/in the chase

First-time winners: Brendan Gaughan, Jake Crum

Do you even watch trucks? Gaughan's won numerous times already in trucks back in the early 2000's.

Jake Crum....Really? Guy had one good run at Bristol until a wreck and that was pretty much the last anyone heard of him this season.


Worst race of 2012: 3/4ths of the schedule

Again did you watch trucks this year at all? Trucks were pretty awesome 95% time of the year and if you aren't hyped about this season with the new addition then you're being absolutely stubborn.

Champion: 3 Austin Dillon
Champion: 3 Ty Dillon

I remember you telling me they're only in on daddy's money and are not talented at all. Change of heart?
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Post by Chives2112 Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:28 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. (Stretch on Stenhouse, but you never know...)
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer (5)
Upset of the year: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.
Disappointments: Joey LOLgano (But really, who didn't see this coming? Razz)
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2013: Auto Club
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton (I really don't want this to happen...)
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Juan Pablo Montoya
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: One of the backmarker/start-and-park drivers
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Kevin Harvick

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett (Starting to like this guy again), Ryan Blaney
Most wins in a season: Joey LOLgano (7)
Upset of the year: Ryan Blaney
Disappointments: Brian Scott
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2013: Indianapolis
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Brian Scott
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Cole Whitt
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Justin Allgaier

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Jeb Burton, Miguel Paludo
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters (5)
Upset of the year: Jeb Burton
Disappointments: Ron Hornaday, Jr.
Best race of 2013: Eldora or Mosport
Worst race of 2013: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday, Jr.
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters
Reject of the year: Max Gresham
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brennan Newberry
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: Joey Coulter


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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:25 am

Why all you predicting stuff the for 2012 season?

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Marcos Ambrose (oval)
Most wins in a season: Kyle Busch
Upset of the year: Penske Racing doesn't get either of their cars into the Chase.
Disappointments: Dale Earnhardt Jnr.
Best race of 2013: Bristol Night
Worst race of 2013: California
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte and Jeff Burton retire from full-time
Driver of the year: Carl Edwards
Reject of the year: Juan Pablo Montoya
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Travis Kvapil
Champion: Kasey Kahne
Runner-up: Carl Edwards

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Brian Scott, Parker Kligerman
Most wins in a season: Cup; Keselowski. Nationwide: Bayne
Upset of the year: Female wins a race.
Disappointments: Elliott Sadler
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2013: 66% of them.
Retirees at season end: Mike Wallace
Driver of the year: Trevor Bayne
Reject of the year: Anyone 20th on back.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Anyone 20th on back who actually doesn't have money
Champion: Trevor Bayne
Runner-up: Regan Smith

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Ryan Sieg in a fuel mileage race, Miguel Paludo
Most wins in a season: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Upset of the year: Ryan Sieg wins a fuel mileage race.
Disappointments: Joey Coulter
Best race of 2013: Eldora
Worst race of 2013: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday Jrn.
Driver of the year: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine (kind of easy to predict)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Ross Chastian runs out of watermelon money.
Champion: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Runner-up: Ryan Blaney.
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Post by Electric Wolf Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:00 pm

Alta wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:Bowyer can win the title, but based on MWR's consistency and ability to run with the top drivers week in and week out, it's highly unlikely. Shouldn't have included it with the NNS first-time winners...

Did you watch Cup this year? The man was up front almost every race and looked pretty damn impressive...If MWR keeps what they had this year they will be a force to be reckonned wirh

I find it funny you criticize my wishful thinking/trend noticing. So in turn let's break down your post.

Casey Lester wrote:Disappointments: Denny Hamlin, Joey Logano, Jeff Burton
Champion: 29 Kevin Harvick

So one RCR car is going to win the title while the other flounders, I know that it seems like Burton is on his way out but i think RCR will pay attention to all of his cars

I guess I've never really viewed MWR to be a powerhouse team. I mean, coming into the Chase, I knew Truex was out of it. I had some faith in Bowyer for a bit, but I could feel that he just didn't have enough for the 2 and 48, who were just pulling away for a championship battle between themselves. Once Kez got on that streak, I began to think he was going to win it come Homestead and my thinking was right. So I get to add another trophy to all my N'Wide stuff, too. Razz

Maybe. It seemed like Burton was in the middle of nowhere all year while Harvick had some good races. Menard was almost the same as Burton.

Alta wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:Most wins in a season: 48 Jimmie Johnson (5)
Runner-up: 48 Jimmie Johnson

Unless Harvick ties in your scenario, i don't see how you can win the title in today's Nascar with out having the most wins overall/in the chase

True. I guess DNF's could be a factor? But then again, Hendrick engines have always been reliable.

Alta wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:First-time winners: Brendan Gaughan, Jake Crum

Do you even watch trucks? Gaughan's won numerous times already in trucks back in the early 2000's.

Jake Crum....Really? Guy had one good run at Bristol until a wreck and that was pretty much the last anyone heard of him this season.

Wow... Massive failure on my part. I put a slash through Crum for an obvious reason.

Alta wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:Worst race of 2012: 3/4ths of the schedule

Again did you watch trucks this year at all? Trucks were pretty awesome 95% time of the year and if you aren't hyped about this season with the new addition then you're being absolutely stubborn.

What the hell was I thinking when I put that... Fail There were certain races I felt weren't that great, mostly ones with the 18 leading them.

Alta wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:Champion: 3 Austin Dillon
Champion: 3 Ty Dillon

I remember you telling me they're only in on daddy's money and are not talented at all. Change of heart?

That's probably the reason why they'll win the title. In NNS, Sadler's out of the 2 and they're making the 21 a 3rd full-time car, so I could see Austin being focused on a bit more. But going back to what you said about RCR's Cup program, I might be wrong.
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Post by day500champ1 Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:20 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Alimrola
Most wins in a season: 5 (was right with this one this year).
Upset of the year: Clint Bowyer wins the 500.
Disappointments: Dale Jr. (big surprise)
Best race of 2012: Bristol, night race
Worst race of 2012: California
Retirees at season end: Mark is the only one I would think would, but I don't see it happening.
Driver of the year: Tie. Matt Kenseth and Kasey Kahne. (Kenseth will be in the Gibbs equipment so I see him doing well. Kasey is ready for a breakout year.
Reject of the year: Some backmarker team. Hard to tell without anything to go on.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch (Sorry, I do like Kurt, but his track record is not good.)
Champion: Denny Hamlin
Runner-up: Clint Bowyer (assuming he doesn't go through the championship runner up slump.)


NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: N/A, not sure who's left.
Most wins in a season: Well, I correctly predicted 8 this year, so I'm sticking with that number 8.
Upset of the year: Austin Dillion wins the championship. (would be an upset right?)
Disappointments: N/A
Best race of 2012: N/A
Worst race of 2012: N/A
Retirees at season end: N/A
Driver of the year: Elliot Sadler. In Gibbs Nationwide equipment how can this not happen.
Reject of the year: N/A
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: N/A
Champion: Austin Dillion
Runner-up: Elliot Sadler

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: N/A
Most wins in a season: N/A
Upset of the year: N/A
Disappointments: Todd Bodine
Best race of 2012: Eldora (trucks on dirt, how can it not be?)
Worst race of 2012: N/A
Retirees at season end: N/A
Driver of the year: N/A
Reject of the year: N/A
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: N/A
Champion: N/A
Runner-up: N/A

Don't know much to fill out the rest.
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Post by TheRealNathNath Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:33 pm

I'm just saying, and not that I hope this happens, but what if all the new Nationwide and Trucks races suck/don't happen?
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Post by PYLrulz Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:12 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: None
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson (9)
Upset of the year: NASCAR will hold the yellow, and a restrictor plate race will run green the whole way
Dissapointment of the Year: Hendrick will have two subpar performances, Dale Jr. will finish outside the Top 20, Jeff Gordon near the same
Best race of 2013: Bristol Night
Worst race of 2013: Cookie Cutter U Pick 'em
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton, Bobby Labonte, Jeff Gordon
Driver of the year: Jimmie Johnson
Reject of the year: Jeff Gordon
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch. I say he'll lose it before Daytona in July
Champion: Jimmie Johnson
Runner-up: Brad Keselowski
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Post by PKligBKFan Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:29 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: None
Most wins in a season: 7 (Jimmie Johnson)
Upset of the year: Surprise Daytona 500 winner. (i.e. Casey Mears or David Gilliland.)
Disappointments: Joey Logano’s performance...or lack thereof.
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2013: Either Texas or Auto Club Speedway
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte…FINALLY
Driver of the year: Jimmie Johnson
Reject of the year: Joey Logano/Kurt Busch (Kurt goes back to his old ways!)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch
Champion: Jimmie Johnson
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Ryan Blaney (assuming he runs any races), Parker Kligerman
Most wins in a season: 3 (Regan Smith, Brian Vickers & Sam Hornish Jr.)
Upset of the year: A road course specialist wins at Mid-Ohio.
Disappointments: Elliott Sadler gets ZERO victories
Best race of 2013: Road America
Worst race of 2013: Believe it or not...Mid-Ohio
Retirees at season end: Unfortunately, Morgan Shepherd. Sad
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Brian Scott (shocker...)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Timmy Hill (as a fan of him, I'm disappointed to say this. The last of his money is probably about to run out.)
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Brian Vickers

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Jeb Burton, Kyle Larson
Most wins in a season: 4 (James Buescher & Nelson Piquet, Jr.)
Upset of the year: Either a road course specialist winning Mosport or a dirt racer winning at Eldora
Disappointments: Miguel Paludo having a fairly lackluster season compared to teammates Burton, Piquet & Buescher...for the second season in a row.
Best race of 2013: Eldora or Mosport
Worst race of 2013: Martinsville (Harvick has yet another dominant performance making the race rather boring.)
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday & Todd Bodine...FINALLY!
Driver of the year: James Buescher
Reject of the year: Timothy Peters (doesn't live up to 2012 performance.)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: John Wes Townley, Max Gresham & Ron Hornaday
Champion: Nelson Piquet, Jr.
Runner-up: James Buescher
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Post by Baxter Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:46 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer
Upset of the year: Ricky Stenhouse Jr wins, Success out of many underdog drivers.
Disappointments: Joey Logano
Best race of 2013: Daytona 500, Dover
Worst race of 2013: Texas, Auto Club
Retirees at season end: Terry Labonte, Ken Schrader
Driver of the year: Kasey Kahne
Reject of the year: Danica: good driver, but she should have stayed in n-wide another year.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: no one
Champion: Matt Kenseth
Runner-up: Kasey Kahne
Rookie of the Year: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Brian Scott, Michael Annett, Ryan Blaney and/or Ryan Truex, Michael McDowell
Most wins in a season: Cryle Kyle Busch
Upset of the year: Upset winner at the Daytona night race, a canadian wins at Trois-Rivieres
Disappointments: idk
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen, Iowa
Worst race of 2013: Texas, Michigan
Retirees at season end: Jeff Green (Finally)
Driver of the year: Bayne gets a lot of wins.
Reject of the year: None
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: idk
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne
Rookie of the Year: James Buescher

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Jason White, Miguel Paludo, Max Gresham, and probably more.
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters
Upset of the year: Chris Buescher will drive for Mittler Bros
Disappointments: Todd Bodine driving for JDR (Left RHR for sponsor issues)
Best race of 2013: Mosport, Phoenix, Daytona, Dover
Worst race of 2013: the Eldora Crash Festival
Retirees at season end: Norm Benning
Driver of the year: Nelson Piquet, Jr.
Reject of the year: hard to tell
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: John Wrecks Weekly Wes Townley
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: Nelson Piquet, Jr.
Rookie of the year: Chris Buescher or Max Gresham
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Post by Baxter Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:50 pm

Upset of the year: Surprise Daytona 500 winner. (i.e. Casey Mears or David Gilliland.)

Wouldn't that be a first time winner?
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Post by PYLrulz Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:54 pm

Baxter wrote:
Upset of the year: Surprise Daytona 500 winner. (i.e. Casey Mears or David Gilliland.)

Wouldn't that be a first time winner?

Only if you don't want to count the 2007 Coca-Cola 600 for Casey Mears
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Post by PKligBKFan Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:56 pm

Baxter wrote:
Upset of the year: Surprise Daytona 500 winner. (i.e. Casey Mears or David Gilliland.)

Wouldn't that be a first time winner?

If Gilliland won, yes; if Mears won, no. He won the Coke 600 in 2007. Those are two examples of drivers that could upset and win. I don't actually think we'll see a first-time winner in 2013 though.
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Post by RocketKnight Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:12 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
Most wins in a season: 5
Upset of the year: Danica wins a race
Disappointments: Carl Edwards
Best race of 2012: Talladega
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte
Driver of the year: Jimmie Johnson
Reject of the year: Joey LOLgano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Danica Patrick
Champion: Jimmie Johnson
Runner-up: Brad Kesolowski

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Cole Whitt
Most wins in a season: 5
Upset of the year: Mike Bliss wins a race
Disappointments: Travis Pastrana
Best race of 2012: Talladega
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Jeff Green
Driver of the year: Elliott Sadler
Reject of the year: Travis Pastrana
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Travis Pastrana
Champion: Elliott Sadler
Runner-up: Regan Smith

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: N/A
Most wins in a season: 3
Upset of the year: Ryan Sieg wins a race OH BUDDAY
Disappointments: Todd Bodine
Best race of 2012: Eldora
Worst race of 2012: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: John Wreck Townley
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Max Gresham
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: James Buescher
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Post by f1fan12 Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:03 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
Most wins in a season 5
Upset of the year: Marcos Ambrose gets 3 wins, the 2 road courses and Michigan
Disappointments: Danica
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2012: You pick
Retirees at season end: FINALLY Bobby Labonte
Driver of the year: Brad Keslowski
Reject of the year: Joey Logano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Who ever drives the 51
Champion: Kevin Harvick
Runner-up: DAEL URNNHART JEWNYER

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Jaques Villenuve,
Most wins in a season: Regan Smith
Upset of the year: The Road Courses being swept by Road Ringers
Disappointments: The lack of a championship fight.
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio (RAIN STORM)
Worst race of 2012: You pick
Retirees at season end: No one, Morgan Shepard?
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: The amount of S&P'ers
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: A S&P'er
Champion: Regan Smith winning the championship at Texas
Runner-up: Brian Scott


NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: If Paludo hasn't won, then Paludo
Most wins in a season: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Upset of the year: A one-off wins Eldora or Mosport
Disappointments: Eldora not being covered on mainstream media (ESPN, TNT, or Fox)
Best race of 2012: Mosport
Worst race of 2012: Everything that is not, Daytona, Eldora, Mosport, or Talladega
Retirees at season end: Todd Bodine (Cause he can't find a ride)
Driver of the year: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Reject of the year: Half the field
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Who cares
Champion: Nelson Piquet Jr. (GO BRAZIL!)
Runner-up: Miguel Paludo (GO BRAZIL!)
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Post by JMac525 Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:46 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson
Upset of the year: Aric Almirola wins Coca Cola 600
Disappointments: Joey Logano, Danica Patrick
Best race of 2013: Spring Talladega, Fall Richmond
Worst race of 2013: Auto Club
Retirees at season end: None (I wish Bobby Labonte and Jeff Burton)
Driver of the year: Kasey Kahne
Reject of the year: Joey Logano
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Whoever drives the 51 (if it's still running)
Champion: Denny Hamlin
Runner-up: Clint Bowyer
Rookie of the Year: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:46 am

f1fan12 wrote:Upset of the year: Marcos Ambrose gets 3 wins, the 2 road courses and Michigan
Wouldn't really be that much of an upset. If you said 3 wins on 3 different ovals, then that's an upset.
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Post by Rykia Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:35 pm

Sprint Cup

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Most wins in a season: Kasey Kahne (no bias here, nope)
Upset of the year: Swan Racing being competitive, a good race on a cookie cutter (I can dream)
Disappointments: DANICADANICADANICA, Joey LOLgano (as usual), Jeff Burton (Sadly), Bobby Labonte (Sadly)
Best race of 2013: Sonoma, Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2013: Auto Club, most other cookie cutters
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte
Driver of the year: Kasey Kahne
Reject of the year: Parsons Racing, TriStar Racing, Joey Lolgano, the Falk team.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Idk.
Champion: Kasey Kahne
Runner-up: Brad Keselowski
Rookie of the Year: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.

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Post by bigdc48 Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:38 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Most wins in a season: Brad Keselowski
Upset of the year: Danica Patrick winning a race
Disappointments: Kurt Busch
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2013: Texas
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: David Stremme
Champion: Denny Hamlin
Runner-up: Jeff Gordon

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett
Most wins in a season: Brad Keselowski
Upset of the year: Brian Scott actually winning a race
Disappointments: Elliot Sadler
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2013: Any 1.5-mile track
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Any backmarker driver
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo
Most wins in a season: James Buescher
Upset of the year: Can't think of any
Disappointments: Matt Crafton
Best race of 2013: Tie between Mosport and Eldora
Worst race of 2013: We'll wait and see
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters
Reject of the year: John Wes Townley
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Any backmarker driver
Champion: Timothy Peters
Runner-up: James Buescher
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Post by Joshua Michaels Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:54 am

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Danica Patrick
Most wins in a season: Dale Jr
Upset of the year: DAYTONA going to be postponed for 2 days.
Disappointments: Bobby Labonte winning one last race.
Best race of 2013: DAYTONA 500
Worst race of 2013: Goody's Martinsville
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte
Driver of the year: Kurt Busch
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: None
Champion: Jimmie Johnson
Runner-up: Kurt Busch
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Post by Magus978 Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:30 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Some reject (Daytona 500), Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (somewhere else)
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson (5)
Upset of the year: Swan Racing steals top 10 at Talladegu
Disappointments: Danica Patrick (instead of running 30th every week, she runs 31st)
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen Very Happy
Worst race of 2013: cookiecutterlol
Retirees at season end: Boobie Laboobie
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some backmarker's funding dries up.
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Brad Keselowski

Nationwide Series

First-time winners: Johanna Long
Most wins in a season: Various Cuppies (at least 20)
Upset of the year: Brian Scott doesn't crash and wins a race.
Disappointments: Cuppies continue their stranglehold on the series.
Best race of 2013: Daytona
Worst race of 2013: Everywhere else
Retirees at season end: Morgan Shepherd (he can't do this forever)
Driver of the year: Austin Dillon
Reject of the year: Travis Pastrana
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some loser
Champion: Austin Dillon
Runner-up: Elliott Sadler


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Post by Cynon Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:39 pm

You know the Best race of 2013 line reads "Best race of 2012", right? Wink

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Danica Patrick
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson
Upset of the year: Montoya wins the Glen and Truex, Jr. wins somewhere else. Everyone in front of Danica is disqualified from the Daytona 500, which, considering Waltrip wrecks the whole field, isn't that many people.
Disappointments: Waltrip screws up the Daytona 500 with his fail driving.
Best race of 2013: Sonoma or Chicagoland (But only if I go there! Wink)
Worst race of 2013: Dover
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton, Michael Waltrip (mercifully)
Driver of the year: Brad Keselowski or Matt Kenseth
Reject of the year: Michael Waltrip
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: One of the BK Racing guys
Champion: Brad Keselowski
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Whoever Wins The Superspeedway Races
Most wins in a season: KYEL BUSCH GR8ST DRIVR EVR
Upset of the year: A Nationwide driver not driving for Gibbs or Hendrick/JR wins a cup companion event.
Disappointments: Kyle Busch making the series boring, the lack of new talent in good cars.
Best race of 2013: Road Courses
Worst race of 2013: Cookie Cutters
Retirees at season end: Any of the pay drivers whose sponsor money runs out
Driver of the year: One of the midfield drivers like Johanna Long or Mike Bliss
Reject of the year: Elliott Sadler
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Elliott Sadler because Gibbs wants Busch and Hamlin to run more races.
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Brian Vickers

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Andrew Ranger, Miguel Paludo, John Wes Townley
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon
Upset of the year: Miguel Paludo
Disappointments: John Wes Townley somehow wins a race.
Best race of 2013: Mosport, even though Andrew Ranger leads the whole race.
Worst race of 2013: Dare I say Eldora?
Retirees at season end: ...
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Timothy Peters
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: Timothy Peters


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Post by navycook75 Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:40 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series according to ESPN

First-time winners: Danica
Most wins in a season: Danica
Upset of the year: Danica
Disappointments: anybody but Danica Patrick
Best race of 2013: a race Danica wins
Worst race of 2013: a race Danica doesn't win
Retirees at season end: Not Danica
Driver of the year: Danica
Reject of the year: not Danica
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Johanna Long, she's not as good as Danica.
Champion: Danica
Runner-up: Danica
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Post by Tanrar Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:46 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Danica Patrick, Ricky Stenhouse Jr., A.J. Allmendinger, David Gilliland
Most wins in a season: Matt Kenseth (4)
Upset of the year: Danica Patrick wins the Daytona 500, and David Gilliland wins at Infineon in ultimate WAT fashion.
Disappointments: Bobby Labonte not retiring.
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen
Worst race of 2013: Auto Club Speedway
Retirees at season end: Terry Labonte
Driver of the year: Matt Kenseth
Reject of the year: Juan Pablo Montoya
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: None.
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Ty Dillon, Johanna Long, Michael Annett
Most wins in a season: Kyle Busch (13)
Upset of the year: Johanna Long pulls out a huge win at Daytona or Talladega.
Disappointments: cuppiewinslol reaches 2008 levels again.
Best race of 2013: Road America
Worst race of 2013: Cookie-cutters
Retirees at season end: Morgan Shepherd
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: TIMMEH HILL!
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Any of the backmarker drivers.
Champion: Regan Smith
Runner-up: Austin Dillon

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Ross Chastain, Joey Logano, John Wes Townley
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon (5)
Upset of the year: Ross Chastain wins in a massive upset at Charlotte.
Disappointments: Todd Bodine continues to be a Weapon of Mass Hilarity.
Best race of 2013: Eldora
Worst race of 2013: One of the Texas races.
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday.
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: Jennifer Slo Cobb
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: SS Green Light trash drivers.
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: James Buescher
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Post by Vincent Giacalone Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:28 pm


NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Stenhouse, and maybe Danica if she gets lucky at a plate track.
Most wins in a season: Johnson or Kenseth.
Upset of the year: Kurt Busch wins at a track that requires a lot of talent.
Disappointments: Logano fails to make the Chase in Penske equipment. Danica finishes 20th at the highest in points.
Best race of 2013: Darlington or first Talladega.
Worst race of 2013: Kentucky
Retirees at season end: Nobody, because PCP.
Driver of the year: Kenseth
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch (he's due to do something stupid again)
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Nobody
Champion: Clint Bowyer
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Brian Scott
Most wins in a season: What Cynon said.
Upset of the year: Curtis Key trash still manages to qualify occasionally.
Disappointments: Pastrana, save the occasional top-10.
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio
Worst race of 2013: Kentucky/Charlotte/Texas/etc.
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Reject of the year: Cuppies
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season:
Champion: Elliott Sadler, finally.
Runner-up: Regan Smith

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Joey Logano, Jeb Burton and/or Ross Chastain
Most wins in a season: Ty Dillon
Upset of the year: Chris Fontaine at Talladega.
Disappointments: Todd Bodine
Best race of 2013: Martinsville
Worst race of 2013: Texas
Retirees at season end: None
Driver of the year: Ty Dillon
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Anyone that isn't routinely in the top 15-20
Champion: Ty Dillon
Runner-up: James Buescher
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:03 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Why all you predicting stuff the for 2012 season?

First-time winners: Aric Almirola, Marcos Ambrose (oval)
Well fug. Aric did get a top 5 at New Hampshire, but this was Ambrose's worst year with RPM.
Most wins in a season: Kyle Busch
I was looking good for a while.
Upset of the year: Penske Racing doesn't get either of their cars into the Chase.
DING DING DING, well half a ding anyway.
Disappointments: Dale Earnhardt Jnr.
Best no win driver of the year. 
Best race of 2013: Bristol Night
It was pretty good, but Talladega (Spring) takes the cake.
Worst race of 2013: California
Wow, dead wrong on this, I wish I could take this predication back
Retirees at season end: Bobby Labonte and Jeff Burton retire from full-time
Yep, sort-of. No one knows what these guys are doing next year.
Driver of the year: Carl Edwards
Damn, maybe next year, seems to be once every 3 years type of guy.
Reject of the year: Juan Pablo Montoya
Well he nearly won two races on ovals, so no.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Travis Kvapil
Damn I was so close on this one.
Champion: Kasey Kahne
Runner-up: Carl Edwards
Nice Chase Kasey and Carl, ya fucks.

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett, Brian Scott, Parker Kligerman
0/3. Annett had no chance after his injury, Scott was close on two occasions, and sadly PK was no-where
Most wins in a season: Cup; Keselowski. Nationwide: Bayne
Well, they both have the 2nd most wins.
Upset of the year: Female wins a race.
LEL
Disappointments: Elliott Sadler
DING DING DING
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio
DING DING DING
Worst race of 2013: 66% of them.
DING DING DING
Retirees at season end: Mike Wallace
Nope.
Driver of the year: Trevor Bayne
Sadly this turned false.
Reject of the year: Anyone 20th on back.
Yep.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Anyone 20th on back who actually doesn't have money
Sadly it was someone in the top 20 who had money.
Champion: Trevor Bayne
Fug.
Runner-up: Regan Smith
Well he got 3rd.

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Ryan Sieg in a fuel mileage race, Miguel Paludo
Lel nope.
Most wins in a season: Nelson Piquet Jr.
WHAT WAS I THINKING
Upset of the year: Ryan Sieg wins a fuel mileage race.
Nope.
Disappointments: Joey Coulter
DING DING DING
Best race of 2013: Eldora
Top 3, but not best imo.
Worst race of 2013: Kentucky
Again, top 3, but not worst imo.
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday Jrn.
Nearly.
Driver of the year: Nelson Piquet Jr.
WHAT WAS I THINKING
Reject of the year: Todd Bodine (kind of easy to predict)
Mmm yeah.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Ross Chastian runs out of watermelon money.
Can I change middle to end?
Champion: Nelson Piquet Jr.
WHAT WAS I THINKING
Runner-up: Ryan Blaney.
Awww Sad
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:42 am

Ben Atkins wrote:NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola
Nope.
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson
YUP
Upset of the year: Juan Pablo doesn't hit the jet dryer.
CALLED IT.
Disappointments: See above.
Was I engaging troll mode for this? lol
Best race of 2012: Talladega Fall
The Jamie McMurray fanboy in me says yes, but I think Spring was better
Worst race of 2012: Texas
Didn't watch it so probably
Retirees at season end: Mark Martin
Yup.
Driver of the year: Matt Kenseth
Him or Jimmie.
Reject of the year: Kasey Kahne
Yup.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some random backmarker
Probably.
Champion: Matt Kenseth
Runner-up: Jimmie Johnson
So close. Sad

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett
no
Most wins in a season: Joey Logano (-_-)
no but kyle buzzkilled instead
Upset of the year: Michael Annett actually doing something
Well he did at Daytona... he injured himself
Disappointments: Kyle Busch (again)
Sadly not Sad
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio
Yes
Worst race of 2012: Anything other than a RC or SS
Pretty much
Retirees at season end: None
Not sure
Driver of the year: Regan Smith
Not really. He didn't stand out to me
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch (again)
Sad
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Some random backmarker
Probably
Champion: Regan Smith
Nope
Runner-up: Elliott Sadler
wow i must have been on drugs

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo
He won the race to the Talladega Tri Oval wall... on his roof...
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters
Nope
Upset of the year: I can't think of one lol
NORM BENNING AT ELDORA GOING GOAT
Disappointments: Johnny Sauter
Not really
Best race of 2012: Daytona
Nothing really stands out to me about it so no
Worst race of 2012: IDK, hard to tell with trucks
Again can't think of a worst race
Retirees at season end: None
IDK
Driver of the year: Miguel Paludo
No lol
Reject of the year: Ron Hornaday
Yup.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Just like the other two, random backmarker
Again, probably
Champion: Timothy Peters
No
Runner-up: Nelson Piquet Jr.
Wasn't even in the truck series
Surprised to see my pre-season predictions for champion and 2nd place for Cup were more accurate than coming into the chase. Interesting...

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Post by Alta Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:50 am

Alta wrote:NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almiorla, Was looking promising at the beginning of the year, Never amounted to anything though
Most wins in a season: Clint Bowyer Nope. By summer i wanted him to go for 0 wins gimmick
Upset of the year: Junior breaks the 4 year rule by winning again. Sorry guys, 4 year rule still intact
Disappointments: Brad Keselowski (I have the worst feeling Roush is going to screw them), Joey Logano, Kasey Kahne Right on Kez (You can argue my point was right as well) Logano did better then normal surprisingly and Kahne was just there. 1 out of 3 i guess.
Best race of 2012: Watkins Glen If you don't count Dega than yes
Worst race of 2012: Richmond Eh...No. Spring had an interesting finish while fall was riddled with silliness
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton Seeming like got it
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer Oh Bowyer...What happened
Reject of the year: Kasey Kahne I forgot to think about the backmarker.
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch Nope. Kurt returned to form
Champion: Clint Bowyer Wrong
Runner-up: Matt Kenseth Right on the money

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Travis Pastrana, Michael Annett, Brian Scott, Johanna Long Pastrana wrecked all year, Anett broke his back and then was never a factor, Scott got close a couple occasions, and Johanna was no where close
Most wins in a season: Regan Smith If you don't count Cup drivers i'm correct
Upset of the year:  Johanna Long stuns the world with a surprising win. Nope. ;____;
Disappointments: Eillott Sadler, Brian Scott Sadler was never a factor but not far down the points where i can say he sucked, Scott was actually better this year
Best race of 2012: Mid-Ohio - Arguably correct. Mid-ohio was kind of a wreckfest...but hey at least i remember it
Worst race of 2012: Indy Was pretty crappy, but there were some worse races....So no
Retirees at season end: None Morgan Shepherd seems to have disappeared
Driver of the year: Regan Smith Summer killed him
Reject of the year: Eillott Sadler Same as above
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brian Scott Nope.
Champion: Regan Smith Damn it Regan. Sad
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne Not even close. Bayne was never a factor

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Jeb Burton, Miguel Paludo Got it on Jeb, Paludo was really close at a couple points though
Most wins in a season: Timothy Peters Nope. Peter was no where for the most part
Upset of the year: One-off drivers wins Eldora - Ehhhh....It was won by a non-regular in a haxed up car for a team that's normally 15th
Disappointments: Ron Hornaday, Yup
Best race of 2012: Eldora/Mosport Was there ever any doubt?
Worst race of 2012: Charlotte Sure since i can't remember it
Retirees at season end: Ron Hornaday PLEASE
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters Nope.
Reject of the year: Ron Hornaday Debatable. Coulter was on par with Hornaday's crappiness
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Brennan Newberry, Ron Hornaday Oh the irony in this is delicious. Hornaday fired cause of Newberry
Champion: Timothy Peters Nope.
Runner-up: Joey Coulter Wow....this turned out to be a terrible choice

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Post by bigdc48 Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:08 pm

bigdc48 wrote:NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Aric Almirola Beginning of the season he looked strong but fell apart as the season went on
Most wins in a season: Brad Keselowski Nope
Upset of the year: Danica Patrick winning a race Running 30th every week is not the sign of winning a race
Disappointments: Kurt Busch He really put himself to form and almost won on a few occasions
Best race of 2013: Watkins Glen I'll go with a tie with the Glen, Talladega (Spring) and Fontana
Worst race of 2013: Texas Right on the money
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton We'll see
Driver of the year: Clint Bowyer Nope
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch Nope
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: David Stremme Didn't really look into him for much this year
Champion: Denny Hamlin No way Jose
Runner-up: Jeff Gordon Again, no way Jose

NASCAR Nationwide Series:

First-time winners: Michael Annett After the injury he suffered early this season we couldn't see the 2012 Annett for much this year
Most wins in a season: Brad Keselowski 2nd-most but.....Kyle, man
Upset of the year: Brian Scott actually winning a race Almost did it twice
Disappointments: Elliot Sadler Right on the money
Best race of 2013: Mid-Ohio Right on the money
Worst race of 2013: Any 1.5-mile track I thought Kansas was good but any other track, right on the money
Retirees at season end: None Please let it be Joe Nemechek and Mike Wallace
Driver of the year: Regan Smith Nope
Reject of the year: Kyle Busch Meh....
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Any backmarker driver Probably
Champion: Regan Smith Hell nah
Runner-up: Trevor Bayne Again, Hell nah

NASCAR Camping World Truck Series:

First-time winners: Miguel Paludo Almost
Most wins in a season: James Buescher Almost
Upset of the year: Can't think of any Elliot's win at Mosport was there but still
Disappointments: Matt Crafton Way, way, way, way wrong about that
Best race of 2013: Tie between Mosport and Eldora Mosport. Period.
Worst race of 2013: We'll wait and see I don't think any of them were bad
Retirees at season end: None Hornaday please
Driver of the year: Timothy Peters Nope
Reject of the year: John Wes Townley Way, way wrong
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Any backmarker driver Probably
Champion: Timothy Peters Wasn't even a factor for much this year
Runner-up: James Buescher Was 3rd but still
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Post by PYLrulz Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:08 pm

PYLrulz wrote:NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: None Nailed it Cool 
Most wins in a season: Jimmie Johnson (9) Who the hell would have thought Matt Kenesth would have won the most races?!?
Upset of the year: NASCAR will hold the yellow, and a restrictor plate race will run green the whole way This is NASCAR we are talking about, why was I talking out of my ass on this one
Dissapointment of the Year:  Hendrick will have two subpar performances, Dale Jr. will finish outside the Top 20, Jeff Gordon near the same Oops
Best race of 2013: Bristol Night Watkins Glen was better
Worst race of 2013: Cookie Cutter U Pick 'em Don't they usually produce bad races?!? Though FOX derping at Charlotte sure helped
Retirees at season end: Jeff Burton, Bobby Labonte, Jeff Gordon I have a feeling I will nail it with Labonte at the least
Driver of the year: Jimmie Johnson I'd give it to Kurt Busch for doing what he did with a single car team
Reject of the year: Jeff Gordon I'll give it Brad Keselowski. Can it be 2012 again?!?
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Kurt Busch.  I say he'll lose it before Daytona in July
Champion: Jimmie Johnson Nailed it Cool 
Runner-up: Brad Keselowski Oops
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Post by Mother of Invention Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:23 am

Mother of Invention wrote:NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

First-time winners: Almirola Nope, he continued being on the upper edge of mediocraty
Most wins in a season: a Joe Gibbs Driver Matt won more then Jimmie right?
Upset of the year: Almirola Nope, that was Ragan..
Disappointments: Roush Kinda, Mr Ed and Boring Biff both made the chase but had no real impact on it.
Best race of 2012: Dega or surprise Kansas I guess Dega 1 wasn't bad with the #34 and 38 train finishing 1-2
Worst race of 2012: Texas Easiest prediction ever
Retirees at season end: Ken Schrader I wish this wasn't the one I got completely right
Driver of the year: Denny Hamlin Thanks Joey!
Reject of the year: Greg Biffle nope, more boring averageness from Biff
Most likely to lose ride in the middle of the season: Anyone in the #32 well the sponsor left, does that count?
Champion: Denny Hamlin SCREW YOU JOEY!
Runner-up: Kahne NOPE
Scott wrote:
Upset of the year: NASCAR will hold the yellow, and a restrictor plate race will run green the whole way This is NASCAR we are talking about, why was I talking out of my ass on this one
you were actually pretty close here......
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