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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:55 pm

The Nationwide Series makes their first run at Michigan International Speedway for the 2013 season. The race will be sponsored by Alliance Truck Parts.

Trevor Bayne won his second career race at Iowa yesterday after an epic battle for the win with Austin Dillon, but the Cup drivers including Kyle Busch make their return to the Nationwide Series. Expect a Cup driver like Kyle to come and ruin the race on Saturday.

The entry list currently has 38 entries but expect a few TMG cars to enter and start & park to make a full field.

Also, after taking a look at the weather, it looks like we SHOULD be able to get this race in. No real threat of rain is on the lookout. Only a 30% chance of rain on Saturday in the Irish Hills. My source: http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/united-states/michigan/brooklyn

1 00 Jason White TBA 13 Toyota Melissa Sciavicco
2 01 Mike Wallace TBA 13 Chevy Johnny Davis
3 2 Brian Scott Shore Lodge 13 Chevy Richard Childress
4 3 Austin Dillon AdvoCare 13 Chevy Richard Childress
5 4 Landon Cassill TBA 13 Chevy Gene Vess
6 5 Brad Sweet Great Clips 13 Chevy Rick Hendrick
7 6 Trevor Bayne Roush Clean Tech 13 Ford Jack Roush
8 7 Regan Smith TaxSlayer.com 13 Chevy Kelley Earnhardt-Miller
9 10 Jeff Green [PC] TriStar Motorsports 13 Toyota Mark Smith
10 11 Elliott Sadler OneMain Financial 13 Toyota J D Gibbs
11 12 Sam Hornish Jr Alliance Truck Parts 13 Ford Roger Penske
12 14 Eric McClure Hefty / Reynolds / Best Western North East Inn 13 Toyota Mark Smith
13 15 Carl Long RWR 13 Ford Rick Ware
14 16 Chris Buescher Ford Ecoboost 13 Ford Jack Roush
15 19 Mike Bliss TriStar Motorsports / Best Western North East Inn 13 Toyota Mark Smith
16 20 Brian Vickers Dollar General 13 Toyota Joe Gibbs
17 22 Joey Logano(i) Discount Tire 13 Ford Roger Penske
18 23 TBA Rick Ware Racing 13 Chevy Robert Richardson Sr
19 24 Blake Koch TBA 13 Toyota Jason Sciavicco
20 30 Nelson Piquet Jr WORX 13 Chevy Harry Scott Jr
21 31 Justin Allgaier Brandt 13 Chevy Steve Turner
22 32 Kyle Larson Vizio-Hulu 13 Chevy Harry Scott Jr
23 33 Paul Menard(i) Menard's 13 Chevy Richard Childress
24 40 Reed Sorenson E-Swisher.com 13 Chevy Curtis Key Sr
25 42 J J Yeley(i) Curtis Key Plumbing 13 Chevy Curtis Key Sr
26 43 Michael Annett Pilot Travel Centers 13 Ford Richard Petty
27 44 Cole Whitt Takagi Tankless Water Heaters 13 Toyota Mark Smith
28 51 Jeremy Clements TBA 13 Chevy Tony Clements
29 52 Joey Gase Donate Life 12 Chevy Jimmy Means
30 54 Kyle Busch(i) Monster Energy 13 Toyota J D Gibbs
31 60 Travis Pastrana Roush Fenway Racing 13 Ford Jack Roush
32 70 Johanna Long Fore Travel 13 Chevy Mary Louise Miller
33 74 Juan Carlos Blum Oleofino's 12 Chevy Mike Harmon
34 77 Parker Kligerman Bandit Chippers 13 Toyota Kyle Busch
35 79 Jeffrey Earnhardt Uponor 13 Ford Archie St Hilaire
36 87 Joe Nemechek TBA 13 Toyota Andrea Nemechek
37 92 Dexter Stacey Maddie's Place 13 Ford Kristin Hamelin
38 99 Alex Bowman SchoolTipline.com 13 Toyota Robby Benton

Entry list link: http://www.jayski.com/news/nationwide/2013/entries/story/_/page/NNS-2013-13-Michigan-Entry-List
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by BWard on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:04 am

Well with Kyle Busch back, that can mean only one thing.
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Post by pennst24 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:45 am

BWardboy88 wrote:Well with Kyle Busch back, that can mean only one thing.

Lots of butthurt and people posting "GTFO Cuppies" when their point has been made for the past 5 years. Smile
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Post by SpeedDemon37 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:37 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:Well with Kyle Busch back, that can mean only one thing.

I watched Kyle win the last time I was here (by beating Mark Martin), and that was almost 10 years ago! I don't really want to see it again!
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:26 pm

SpeedDemon37 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Well with Kyle Busch back, that can mean only one thing.

I watched Kyle win the last time I was here (by beating Mark Martin), and that was almost 10 years ago! I don't really want to see it again!
10 years ago I would of been okay with...
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by crl on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:55 am

pennst24 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Well with Kyle Busch back, that can mean only one thing.



Lots of butthurt and people posting "GTFO Cuppies" when their point has been made for the past 5 years. Smile

But that's what you do when you're dissatisfied: make your voice heard until they listen, and NASCAR allowing today's stars to eat a majority of its young is not satisfying to anyone who wants to see the stars of tomorrow race against one another until they themselves become the stars of today. Although, the media's had quite a hand in that.

Unfortunately, NASCAR seems content with the organization being eaten from the inside, so, yeah, it's kind of futile.

Doesn't mean we should stop, though.

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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:52 pm

crl wrote:

 and NASCAR allowing today's stars to eat a majority of its young

Not like a majority of the young were to strong to begin with.........
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Alpineopossum on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:21 pm

I wonder if NASCAR has ever considered some kind of format to handicap the cup drivers, such as allowing more open rules for non-cup drivers or making cup drivers start from the back. I'm not saying its a good idea, but I wonder if anything like that has been considered.
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Post by navycook75 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:33 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
crl wrote:

 and NASCAR allowing today's stars to eat a majority of its young



Not like a majority of the young were to strong to begin with.........
GEE I WONDER WHY
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by PYLrulz on Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:39 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
crl wrote:

 and NASCAR allowing today's stars to eat a majority of its young



Not like a majority of the young were to strong to begin with.........

Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Vincent Giacalone on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:24 am

PYLrulz wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
crl wrote:

 and NASCAR allowing today's stars to eat a majority of its young





Not like a majority of the young were to strong to begin with.........



Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.

Seconded. Results are what get you noticed, and they're going to the people that no longer need them.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Mother of Invention on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:11 am

PYLrulz wrote:Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.


Except, those drivers in bold all won as BGN regulars against fields with cup drivers in them.




As an example of why I think the talent pool is dwindling, look at 2005, we had Martin Treux Jr, Carl Edwards, Reed Sorenson, and Denny Hamlin.

In 2006 the Talent Pool included Mark McFarland, Todd Kluever, Danny O'Quinn, and Joel Kauffman.

so yeah, we haven't been able to recover from that since, And frankly of all the current young non-cuppies only two really have the talent to drive up front in cup (Ty Dillon and Kyle Larson) , neither of whom a really ready to though.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by flyingturns89 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:20 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.




Except, those drivers in bold all won as BGN regulars against fields with cup drivers in them.




As an example of why I think the talent pool is dwindling, look at 2005, we had Martin Treux Jr, Carl Edwards, Reed Sorenson, and Denny Hamlin.

In 2006 the Talent Pool included Mark McFarland, Todd Kluever, Danny O'Quinn, and Joel Kauffman.

so yeah, we haven't been able to recover from that since, And frankly of all the current young non-cuppies only two really have the talent to drive up front in cup (Ty Dillon and Kyle Larson) , neither of whom a really ready to though.

There was also Johnny Sauter, Regan Smith, and David Gilliland.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by PKligBKFan on Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:30 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.


Except, those drivers in bold all won as BGN regulars against fields with cup drivers in them.




As an example of why I think the talent pool is dwindling, look at 2005, we had Martin Treux Jr, Carl Edwards, Reed Sorenson, and Denny Hamlin.

In 2006 the Talent Pool included Mark McFarland, Todd Kluever, Danny O'Quinn, and Joel Kauffman.

so yeah, we haven't been able to recover from that since, And frankly of all the current young non-cuppies only two really have the talent to drive up front in cup (Ty Dillon and Kyle Larson) , neither of whom a really ready to though.

Only two? Hmm. I see a few more. Add Austin Dillon to that list as well as Trevor Bayne. Who are they? The drivers who battled for the win last week! Who else do we have? Justin Allgaier. Given the right opportunity, he could do very well in Cup as well as Ryan Blaney, Jeb Burton and Darrell Wallace, Jr. once they get their chance...
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Post by Rykia on Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:07 am

flyingturns89 wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.




Except, those drivers in bold all won as BGN regulars against fields with cup drivers in them.




As an example of why I think the talent pool is dwindling, look at 2005, we had Martin Treux Jr, Carl Edwards, Reed Sorenson, and Denny Hamlin.

In 2006 the Talent Pool included Mark McFarland, Todd Kluever, Danny O'Quinn, and Joel Kauffman.

so yeah, we haven't been able to recover from that since, And frankly of all the current young non-cuppies only two really have the talent to drive up front in cup (Ty Dillon and Kyle Larson) , neither of whom a really ready to though.

There was also Johnny Sauter, Regan Smith, and David Gilliland.

Difference was Smith and Gilliland were driving inferior equipment. Smith is a decent racer now and Gilliland could have been had it not been for Yates rushing him in to the Cup series. Sauter wasn't really up and coming in 2006.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Alpineopossum on Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:19 pm

Gilliland won at Kentucky in 2006 driving what was a several year old start and park car, so he has talent. That said some drivers (Pastor Maldanado, John Love, JR Hildebrand, Olivier Panis) have one outstanding run.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:09 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:Gilliland won at Kentucky in 2006 driving what was a several year old start and park car, so he has talent. That said some drivers (Pastor Maldanado, John Love, JR Hildebrand, Olivier Panis) have one outstanding run.

I disagree on Panis and Maldonado. Panis was fast enough in 1997 that he gave Villeneuve cause for concern in his vastly superior Williams (which should've stomped the field anyway); hell, he would've won the Spanish GP that year if Eddie Irvine wasn't a tremendous douchebag.

Maldonado had several strong runs in 2012 besides his win; he was running 5th in Australia on the last lap, was on course for 4th at worse in Valencia, and looking at a podium at Singapore before the car broke down. Not to mention how he was on for 6th at Monaco with the crapbox 2011 Williams...
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Post by Mother of Invention on Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:28 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:
Only two? Hmm. I see a few more. Add Austin Dillon to that list as well as Trevor Bayne. Who are they? The drivers who battled for the win last week! Who else do we have? Justin Allgaier. Given the right opportunity, he could do very well in Cup as well as Ryan Blaney, Jeb Burton and Darrell Wallace, Jr. once they get their chance...


HELL NO on Austin Dillon He can't even drive a NWS car properly and is only doin well cause of equipment. Don't forget that Reagan Smith and AJ Allmendinger have done better in Pheonix equipment with out funding then DIllon did in a "4th RCR car"  Ty's gonna blow him out of the water!


Trevor wasn't mentioned cause he's sorta of  already a cup driver.


Allgaier probably not.


Jeb Burton is a maybe

Bubba Wallace Could do well if given the right equipment (That is highly likely)
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Casey Lester on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:17 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:
Guarantee you if Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, and gang ran 20-30 Busch races a year, Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and many other young stars would NEVER develop.


Except, those drivers in bold all won as BGN regulars against fields with cup drivers in them.




As an example of why I think the talent pool is dwindling, look at 2005, we had Martin Treux Jr, Carl Edwards, Reed Sorenson, and Denny Hamlin.

In 2006 the Talent Pool included Mark McFarland, Todd Kluever, Danny O'Quinn, and Joel Kauffman.

so yeah, we haven't been able to recover from that since, And frankly of all the current young non-cuppies only two really have the talent to drive up front in cup (Ty Dillon and Kyle Larson) , neither of whom a really ready to though.

Only two? Hmm. I see a few more. Add Austin Dillon to that list as well as Trevor Bayne. Who are they? The drivers who battled for the win last week! Who else do we have? Justin Allgaier. Given the right opportunity, he could do very well in Cup as well as Ryan Blaney, Jeb Burton and Darrell Wallace, Jr. once they get their chance...[/quote]

HA! It doesn't matter how well they do. As long as they're competent, they're guaranteed to rise through the ranks because of their last names. Same thing goes for the Dillon brothers.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:22 pm

Whether Ryan Blaney and Jeb Burton are sons of previous generation NASCAR drivers or not, they're proving that they're legitimate drivers. Not to mention, the Dillon brothers aren't too bad themselves. They usually finish near the front every week and don't wreck, which was something that Steven Wallace had trouble doing.

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Post by RACECAR on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:26 pm

Casey Lester wrote:
HA! It doesn't matter how well they do. As long as they're competent, they're guaranteed to rise through the ranks because of their last names. Same thing goes for the Dillon brothers.


Explain Steven Wallace and Jeffery Earnhardt then or how about Jared Johnson? I sure don't see them being handed deals in droves.


Better yet, tell me how Ricky Stenhouse went through the ranks when his name isn't Earnhardt, Dillon, Burton or Blaney?
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Post by PYLrulz on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:32 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:Gilliland won at Kentucky in 2006 driving what was a several year old start and park car, so he has talent. That said some drivers (Pastor Maldanado, John Love, JR Hildebrand, Olivier Panis) have one outstanding run.

I disagree on Panis and Maldonado. Panis was fast enough in 1997 that he gave Villeneuve cause for concern in his vastly superior Williams (which should've stomped the field anyway); hell, he would've won the Spanish GP that year if Eddie Irvine wasn't a tremendous douchebag.

Maldonado had several strong runs in 2012 besides his win; he was running 5th in Australia on the last lap, was on course for 4th at worse in Valencia, and looking at a podium at Singapore before the car broke down. Not to mention how he was on for 6th at Monaco with the crapbox 2011 Williams...
Maldonado just doesn't know how to pass cars half the time without wrecking.

As for the Nationwide guys, even if one wrecks a few times, it's still pretty damn hard to get attention when you get 7 or 8 Cup guys finishing in front of you.  And if you can't get that attention, nobody will care for you.  A good few years of talents got wasted, or at least not given an opportunity to grow properly, all because Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, and gang wanted to run 20-30 Busch/Nationwide races a year for god knows what reason.
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Post by RACECAR on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:39 pm

PYLrulz wrote:Maldonado just doesn't know how to pass cars half the time without wrecking.

As for the Nationwide guys, even if one wrecks a few times, it's still pretty damn hard to get attention when you get 7 or 8 Cup guys finishing in front of you.  And if you can't get that attention, nobody will care for you.  A good few years of talents got wasted, or at least not given an opportunity to grow properly, all because Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, and gang wanted to run 20-30 Busch/Nationwide races a year for god knows what reason.

I can name you one: Ego.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:07 am

RACECAR wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Maldonado just doesn't know how to pass cars half the time without wrecking.

As for the Nationwide guys, even if one wrecks a few times, it's still pretty damn hard to get attention when you get 7 or 8 Cup guys finishing in front of you.  And if you can't get that attention, nobody will care for you.  A good few years of talents got wasted, or at least not given an opportunity to grow properly, all because Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, and gang wanted to run 20-30 Busch/Nationwide races a year for god knows what reason.

I can name you one: $$$ from Sponsors (FIXED)
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Post by Casey Lester on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:17 am

RACECAR wrote:R"]]
Casey Lester wrote:r"]]
HA! It doesn't matter how well they do. As long as they're competent, they're guaranteed to rise through the ranks because of their last names. Same thing goes for the Dillon brothers.


Explain Steven Wallace and Jeffery Earnhardt then or how about Jared Johnson? I sure don't see them being handed deals in droves.


Better yet, tell me how Ricky Stenhouse went through the ranks when his name isn't Earnhardt, Dillon, Burton or Blaney?[/quote]

Rusty Wallace's team can only go so far (they barely got Steve to run the 2011 500 thanks to Penske) and Jeffrey Earnhardt is about the only case where you beat me. At least it seems that he's havng to work with poor equipment and to see how well he does each week. Stenhouse was given time to mature by Roush (one of the few developments he hasn't messed up) and here he is, replacing Matt Kenseth in his iconic #17.
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Post by Tanrar on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:25 am

Casey Lester wrote:
RACECAR wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:
HA! It doesn't matter how well they do. As long as they're competent, they're guaranteed to rise through the ranks because of their last names. Same thing goes for the Dillon brothers.
Explain Steven Wallace and Jeffery Earnhardt then or how about Jared Johnson? I sure don't see them being handed deals in droves.


Better yet, tell me how Ricky Stenhouse went through the ranks when his name isn't Earnhardt, Dillon, Burton or Blaney?

Rusty Wallace's team can only go so far (they barely got Steve to run the 2011 500 thanks to Penske) and Jeffrey Earnhardt is about the only case where you beat me. At least it seems that he's havng to work with poor equipment and to see how well he does each week. Stenhouse was given time to mature by Roush (one of the few developments he hasn't messed up) and here he is, replacing Matt Kenseth in his iconic #17.[/quote]

Quite honestly, I find the whole "Last name = epic hax" argument stupid. By that logic, Richard Petty AND Dale Earnhardt would only be in NASCAR because of their names. Does that make their 276 combined wins, and 14 combined championships all attributed to their name?

And to further the argument that not all drivers with last names are gonna get to the top: Jason Jarrett, and Dustin Skinner. Neither of them did anything. Hell, you could even lump Justin Labonte into that category, yeah, he did win a Busch race at Chicago, but where'd he go afterwards?
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Post by Alta on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:29 am

For the people who are shitting on the Dillon brothers. It's not all equipment...Remember JWT's run at RCR?
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by navycook75 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:46 am

The logic in this thread: Austin Dillon starts on pole? he only has that equipment because he's the grandson of Richard Childress. he doesn't deserve it

Oh, Jeb Burton won? he drove his ass off to win. He deserved it.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Alta on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:54 am

navycook75 wrote:The logic in this thread: Austin Dillon starts on pole? he only has that equipment because he's the grandson of Richard Childress. he doesn't deserve it

Oh, Jeb Burton won? he drove his ass off to win. He deserved it.
People are just afraid of Austin taking the 3
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by navycook75 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:58 am

Alta wrote:
navycook75 wrote:The logic in this thread: Austin Dillon starts on pole? he only has that equipment because he's the grandson of Richard Childress. he doesn't deserve it

Oh, Jeb Burton won? he drove his ass off to win. He deserved it.
People are just afraid of Austin taking the 3
Almirola has the 43, nobody cares.

Dillon bros have the 3, everybody is pissed.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:59 am

Regan Smith and A.J. Allmendinger give the #51 car top-15 finishes with out any form of a Sponsor. Dillon Brings in Tag Heuer money and piddles around in Danica Patrick territory for the same team.


That's why I think its the cars more then anything.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:05 am

navycook75The logic in this thread: Austin Dillon starts on pole? he only has that equipment because he's the grandson of Richard Childress. he doesn't deserve itOh, Jeb Burton won? he drove his ass off to win. He deserved it. wrote:Yes, Dillon may have great equipment, BUT you still need to be a great driver to use it. He won a freaking Championship...


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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:07 am

RACECARPYLrulzMaldonado just doesn't know how to pass cars half the time without wrecking.As for the Nationwide guys, even if one wrecks a few times, it's still pretty damn hard to get attention when you get 7 or 8 Cup guys finishing in front of you.  And if you can't get that attention, nobody will care for you.  A good few years of talents got wasted, or at least not given an opportunity to grow properly, all because Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, and gang wanted to run 20-30 Busch/Nationwide races a year for god knows what reason.I can name you one: Ego. wrote:Sponsor being douches & not supporting the little guys..EX : Monster, stop supporting Kyle, start supporting Kligerman..
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by BWard on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:40 am

And Austin Dillon goes for 4 poles in a row.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:43 am

navycook75 wrote:
Alta wrote:
navycook75 wrote:The logic in this thread: Austin Dillon starts on pole? he only has that equipment because he's the grandson of Richard Childress. he doesn't deserve it

Oh, Jeb Burton won? he drove his ass off to win. He deserved it.
People are just afraid of Austin taking the 3
Almirola has the 43, nobody cares.

Dillon bros have the 3, everybody is pissed.

The driver who made the 43 can decided what happens to the number.

The driver who made the 3 cannot decide what happens to the number.

Also f*** forumoition, f***ing f**gots.


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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by RACECAR on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:23 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
RACECAR wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Maldonado just doesn't know how to pass cars half the time without wrecking.

As for the Nationwide guys, even if one wrecks a few times, it's still pretty damn hard to get attention when you get 7 or 8 Cup guys finishing in front of you.  And if you can't get that attention, nobody will care for you.  A good few years of talents got wasted, or at least not given an opportunity to grow properly, all because Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, and gang wanted to run 20-30 Busch/Nationwide races a year for god knows what reason.

I can name you one: $$$ from Sponsors (FIXED)


So you are telling me they wouldn't do it if there wasn't money involved, that they wouldn't take pleasure in winning if it didn' have sponsorship dollars?
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by PKligBKFan on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:31 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:And Austin Dillon goes for 4 poles in a row.

Talentless driver right there!
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:34 pm

RACECAR : Yes, remember 2011? Dollar general left Turner Motorsports & Reed Sorenson to join JGR... for obvious reasons
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:35 pm

BTW Dale Jr is a guest analyst... today
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by BWard on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:37 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:And Austin Dillon goes for 4 poles in a row.

Talentless driver right there!

Wow, retard alert PKligBKFan.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by BWard on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:24 pm

Starting Line-up for the Race.

1. No.3 Austin Dillon
2. No.33 Paul Menard
3. No.2 Brian Scott
4. No.6 Trevor Bayne
5. No.99 Alex Bowman
6. No.5 Brad Sweet
7. No.31 Justin Allgaier
8. No.16 Chris Buescher
9. No.20 Brian Vickers
10. No.22 Joey Logano
11. No.32 Kyle Larson
12. No.60 Travis Pastrana
13. No.12 Sam Hornish Jr.
14. No.54 Kyle Busch
15. No.70 Johanna Long
16. No.77 Parker Kligerman
17. No.43 Michael Annett
18. No.79 Jeffrey Earnhardt
19. No.11 Elliott Sadler
20. No.7 Regan Smith
21. No.30 Nelson Piquet Jr.
22. No.51 Jeremy Clements
23. No.44 Cole Whitt
24. No.40 Reed Sorenson
25. No.24 Blake Koch
26. No.10 Jeff Green
27. No.87 Joe Nemechek
28. No.19 Mike Bliss
29. No.4 Landon Cassill
30. No.42 Josh Wise
31. No.01 Mike Wallace
32. No.46 J.J Yeley
33. No.92 Dexter Stacey
34. No.23 Scott Riggs
35. No.00 Ken Butler
36. No.52 Joey Gase
37. No.14 Eric McClure
38. No.74 Juan Carlos Blum
39. No.15 Carl Long
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:28 pm

That Starting Lineup!!!
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Chives2112 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:15 pm

Paul Nard! 
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Alta on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:25 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:Regan Smith and A.J. Allmendinger give the #51 car top-15 finishes with out any form of a Sponsor. Dillon Brings in Tag Heuer money and piddles around in Danica Patrick territory for the same team.


That's why I think its the cars more then anything.
It's finch....You're expecting loops and bonds out of a car that's pretty crappy...and to be fair he's finished 6 laps down in that car twice for we all know it could've been a car problem.

@Bward: PKlig was being sarcastic

People love Jeb Burton, Ryan Blaney, Chase Eillott among others. But hate Dillon for no reason other then "hurrdurr their grandaddy gives them good cars to go race and they're pay driving meeniebutts." Again...It takes talent to wheel a car and win a championship. Townley was at RCR and was absolutely terrible...So how does Austin winning poles everyweek and contending for wins equal to him being a terrible driver?

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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:34 pm

Well that didn't last long.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by BWard on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:35 pm

How do you wreck on Lap 1?
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:36 pm

What?
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Alta on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:37 pm

There went a portion of the field.
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:38 pm

Cars involved : 99,20,60,79 
Too Bad... Kyle missed it
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Re: NASCAR Nationwide Series - Alliance Truck Parts 250 - Michigan International Speedway

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:43 pm

Dexter Stacey, unlucky... hits the wall


Edit : BIG HIT!


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