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Post by BWard on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:00 pm

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series drivers are now heading their way to the Kansas Speedway for the running of the STP 400, the 8th race of the 2012 season. Will Greg Biffle be able to maintain his points lead at the conclusion of the race?

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Post by Alta on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:03 pm

Nascar is in dire need of new tracks to the schedule. Not the same old boring cookie cutters.

Somebody top 5 in points wins this race.
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:13 pm

another weekend, another boring race.
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:24 pm

Wake me up for Talladega
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Post by day500champ1 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:24 pm

AntmanB wrote:another weekend, another boring race.

Another generic "boring" comment. Rolling Eyes
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Post by antknee on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:38 pm

you guys are right...let's just race at Talladega every week. Um...
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:52 pm

antknee wrote:you guys are right...let's just race at Talladega every week. Um...

I don't think that, I just think that the cookie cutter tracks need to be dropped to maybe 3 a year. I find their existant in the first place, unoriginal.
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Post by Jason Hamilton on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:12 pm

Kansas is probably my least favourite track in NASCAR Sleep
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Post by Rykia on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:25 pm

antknee wrote:you guys are right...let's just race at Talladega every week. Um...

I think they're saying that because the races this year have been, well, crappy as of late. Other then Martinsville. A decent cup race would be nice. And no, I'm NOT saying crashes are good.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:32 pm

f1fan12 wrote:Wake me up for São Paulo

Fixed.
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:43 pm

Biffle
Truex
Harvick
Gordon
Junior
Martin
Johnson
Kenseth
Edwards

You will see most if not all of these guys take up the top 10 this week, Infact this is what it's been for most of the year so far (Not counting them going away late/getting wrecked)
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by PackerMan71 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:05 pm

antknee wrote:you guys are right...let's just race at Talladega every week. Um...

No



Antknee, just admit it. The racing just hasn't been exciting this year. The only races that have been interesting this year have been Daytona (till the last 40 laps), Bristol, and Martinsville.

The last two races, California and Texas, had me falling asleep in my chair, it was so boring. And I'm sure you'll say, "So what if the leader's running away. There's still the midfield battle." Problem is, there is no midfield battles to speak of. They just don't exist, and I've been watching (or trying to watch, as the case may be) the midfield battles when the race for the lead is non-existant. Kinda hard to do when there are none. And Kansas will be no exception.

"Well, the race isn't just about the race for the lead." Trust me, we are well aware. Case in point: the Chinese Grand Prix. Rosberg had a 20-second lead, but that's not what we were focused on. We were focused on the 10-car choo-choo train that was fighting for the other two podium spots. Dive-bombs, tires rubbing, going three-wide, that kind of thing. I don't know what they did with F1 this year, but NASCAR should follow their example.

Another example: right now, you can pretty much guarantee who's gonna be in the top 10 at each NASCAR race right now. In F1, it's like roulette. You just don't know who's gonna land where. Fernando Alonso won at Malaysia, barely finished in the points at China.

I'm not saying NASCAR can't improve. It just gets old when they go to the same kind of track every week: a 1.5 mile tri- or quad-oval. Right now, the only tracks that I can see coming up in the next month or so that might be interesting are Talladega (obviously) and Darlington. Again, I could be proven wrong.

And you might ask, "Well, what kind of tracks would you add to the schedule?" Short answer?

ROAD COURSES. There's that one in Canada that the Nationwide Series goes to every year, and it seems to produce the best race of the year in NASCAR...

Bottom line, if NASCAR wants to improve its product, they need to cut some of the dates that the cookie-cutter tracks have back down to one date, or cut them from the schedule altogether, and improve the variety of tracks that we used to see.

Wow, didn't expect to write an article on the matter... Laughing


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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 am

AFIAK Kansas has produced one good race and one semi-good race.

and here's the entry list.

1 1 Jamie McMurray Chevy McDonald's Felix Sabates
2 2 Brad Keselowski Dodge Miller Lite Roger Penske
3 5 Kasey Kahne Chevy Farmers Insurance Linda Hendrick
4 9 Marcos Ambrose Ford DeWalt Richard Petty
5 10 David Reutimann Chevy Accell Consruction Tommy Baldwin
6 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Ground J D Gibbs
7 12 Sam Hornish Jr.(i) Dodge SKF Roger Penske
8 13 Casey Mears Ford GEICO Bob Germain
9 14 Tony Stewart Chevy Office Depot / Mobil 1 Margaret Haas
10 15 Clint Bowyer Toyota 5 Hour Energy Rob Kauffman
11 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M / Novec Jack Roush
12 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Roush Fenway Racing John Henry
13 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's Joe Gibbs
14 19 Mike Bliss (i) Toyota Humphrey Smith Racing Randy Humphrey
15 20 Joey Logano Toyota Home Depot Joe Gibbs
16 22 A.J. Allmendinger Dodge AAA Walter Czarnecki
17 23 Scott Riggs Chevy North Texas Pipe Robert Richardson Sr.
18 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy Drive to End Hunger Rick Hendrick
19 26 Josh Wise # Ford Morristown Driver's Service Jerry Freeze
20 27 Paul Menard Chevy Menards / Zecol Richard Childress
21 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy Rheem Richard Childress
22 30 David Stremme Toyota Inception Motorsports Kevin Buckler
23 31 Jeff Burton Chevy Caterpiller Richard Childress
24 32 Reed Sorenson(i) Ford TBA Jack Roush
25 33 Tony Raines Chevy TBA Richard Childress
26 34 David Ragan Ford Barrett Jackson Bob Jenkins
27 36 Dave Blaney Chevy Tommy Baldwin Racing Allen Heinke
28 38 David Gilliland Ford TBA Bob Jenkins
29 39 Ryan Newman Chevy Haas Automation Tony Stewart
30 42 Juan PabloMontoya Chevy Target Chip Ganassi
31 43 Aric Almirola Ford STP Richard Petty
32 47 Bobby Labonte Toyota Reese Tow Power Tad Geschickter
33 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy Lowe's Jeff Gordon
34 49 J.J. Yeley Toyota JPO Absorbents Jay Robinson
35 51 Kurt Busch Chevy Phoenix Construction James Finch
36 55 Mark Martin Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine Bill Jenkins
37 56 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota NAPA Auto Parts Michael Waltrip
38 74 Stacy Compton Chevy Turn One Racing Vickie Compton
39 78 Regan Smith Chevy Furniture Row Barney Vissar
40 79 Tim Andrews (i) Ford BBI / Bestway Archie St Hilaire
41 83 Landon Cassill Toyota Burger King - Dr Pepper Thomas Ueberall
42 87 Joe Nemechek (i) Toyota AM FM Energy Andrea Nemechek
43 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy Diet Mtn Dew / National Guard Rick Hendrick
44 93 Travis Kvapil Toyota Dr. Pepper Thomas Ueberall
45 98 Michael McDowell Ford Curb Records Mike Curb
46 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac Jack Roush
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Post by BWard on Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:48 pm

Here's the line up for tomorrow's STP 400 at Kansas:

1. #22 A.J Allmendinger
2. #29 Kevin Harvick
3. #20 Joey Logano
4. #11 Denny Hamlin
5. #55 Mark Martin
6. #56 Martin Truex Jr.
7. #88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
8. #15 Clint Bowyer
9. #5 Kasey Kahne
10. #12 Sam Hornish
11. #2 Brad Keselowski
12. #31 Jeff Burton
13. #39 Ryan Newman
14. #51 Kurt Busch
15. #10 David Reutimann
16. #48 Jimmie Johnson
17. #16 Greg Biffle
18. #17 Math Kenseth
19. #27 Paul Menard
20. #24 Jeff Gordon
21. #99 Carl Edwards
22. #38 David Gilliland
23. #14 Tony Stewart
24. #30 David Stremme
25. #18 Kyle Busch
26. #43 Aric Almirola
27. #34 David Ragan
28. #9 Marcos Ambrose
29. #78 Regan Smith
30. #47 Bobby Labonte
31. #49 J.J Yeley
32. #83 Landon Cassill
33. #36 Dave Blaney
34. #23 Scott Riggs
35. #93 Travis Kvapil
36. #1 Jamie McMurray
37. #98 Michael McDowell
38. #26 Josh Wise
39. #42 Juan Pablo Montoya
40. #26 Josh Wise
41. #87 Joe Nemechek
42. #32 Reed Sorenson
43. #19 Mike Bliss

Did not qualify:

#79 Tim Andrews
#33 Jeff Green
#74 Tony Raines
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Post by Alta on Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:54 pm

Awww Yeahhh Allmendinger!
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:22 pm

Allmendinger on the pole?

this is the greatest day ever
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:17 pm

I think we need to have more faith in Kansas. Most of the time the racing's pretty good, and I think last year's ending was great.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:08 pm

Kansas isn't a terrible track, it's just nothing special. Another cookie-cutter filling spots on the schedule that could be used for tracks with more exciting races.

But hey, it could be worse. At least it's not Auto Club.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:28 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:I think we need to have more faith in Kansas. Most of the time the racing's pretty good, and I think last year's ending was great.

I'll put more faith in Kansas if doesn't make me fall asleep in my chair again.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:33 pm

Kansas only had two good races, Neither was a cup race. :/
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Post by Spen on Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:01 pm

It's not the worst of the cookie-cutters. But in no way should it have two dates.

And after next year's repave, it will likely become the worst track on the schedule.
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Post by AntmanB on Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:51 pm

Spen wrote:It's not the worst of the cookie-cutters. But in no way should it have two dates.

And after next year's repave, it will likely become the worst track on the schedule.

Next Year? i thought it was gonna get a repave before this falls race!
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Post by AntmanB on Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:53 pm

just checked, repaving project begins tomorrow at the conclusion of the cup race.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:57 pm

Now that was a restart. The #43 nearly took the nose off Logano's car.
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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:08 pm

Truex Jr currently leads, 2nd is Harvick and 3rd is Kahne.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:28 pm

Truex Jr. has the car to win this race if they don't screw it up.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:03 pm

So guys how is Jimmie gonna choke in this race?
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:07 pm

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Post by Chives2112 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:19 pm

Too bad for Montoya. Couldn't have happened to a nicer individual. Rolling Eyes
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:51 pm

My reaction on Jeff Gordon losing a cylinder: Fail

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Post by Alta on Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:54 pm

Alta wrote:Biffle = 5th
Truex = 1st
Harvick = 8th
Gordon = 10th
Junior = 7th
Martin = 6th
Johnson = 3rd
Kenseth = 4th
Edwards = 13th

You will see most if not all of these guys take up the top 10 this week, Infact this is what it's been for most of the year so far (Not counting them going away late/getting wrecked)
Wizardry...And they say Nascar isn't as predictable as F1.

Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:07 pm

Hamlin gets #2 on the year, Truex Jr. gave it all he had. Hate that the sun had to come out.
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Post by Tanrar on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:08 pm

NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.
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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:09 pm

top 10 results:

1. Denny Hamlin
2. Martin Truex Jr.
3. Jimmie Johnson
4. Matt Kenseth
5. Greg Biffle
6. Kevin Harvick
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
8. Kasey Kahne
9. Carl Edwards
10. Kyle Busch
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:09 pm

Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.
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Post by pennst24 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:10 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.

Please Griffin open your eyes. F1 and IndyCar are much better so far and you don't want to admit it.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:11 pm

RandomClassic wrote:NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.

Only race I'd call bad is California, everything else was fine. Then again I'm probably the only one who has watched all the races this year all the way threw.
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Post by Tanrar on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:13 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.

Only race I'd call bad is California, everything else was fine. Then again I'm probably the only one who has watched all the races this year all the way threw.

Texas and this race sucked too.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:13 pm

pennst24 wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:
Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.

Please Griffin open your eyes. F1 and IndyCar are much better so far and you don't want to admit it.

I haven't watched F1 (I've already stated why) so I can't argue that. But, I've seen two of the three IndyCar races and Long Beach was probably the best of three but they weren't best of the year so far.
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Post by pennst24 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:15 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
pennst24 wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:
Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.

Please Griffin open your eyes. F1 and IndyCar are much better so far and you don't want to admit it.

I haven't watched F1 (I've already stated why) so I can't argue that. But, I've seen two of the three IndyCar races and Long Beach was probably the best of three but they weren't best of the year so far.

Maybe you should get off your NASCAR high horse and watch an F1 race. Record it even. You should take in ALL the facts before coming to a conclusion.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:16 pm

Alta wrote:Biffle = 5th
Truex = 2nd
Harvick = 6th
Gordon = 21st
Junior = 7th
Martin = 33rd
Johnson = 3rd
Kenseth = 4th
Edwards = 9th

Fixed.

I tell you, these lapped cars need to learn to let the leaders by. It's been getting pretty rediculous that cars five or six laps down will fight the leaders to keep from going lap down, and it's been worse these last few weeks. I said it once, and I'll say it again, if you're fighting to stay on the lead lap, that's fine, but if you're gonna go a second lap or more down, or if you're hopelessly slow, move out of the way. NASCAR definitely needs to crack down on this soon.
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by AntmanB on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:16 pm

Denny Buzzkill Hamlin.

Better race than texas and auto club.
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:16 pm

RandomClassic wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.

Only race I'd call bad is California, everything else was fine. Then again I'm probably the only one who has watched all the races this year all the way threw.

Texas and this race sucked too.

Ok, has anybody besides me watched all of the races start to finish this year? If not, you can't make that statement. Because of the same reason Alta told me which makes sense. You can't comment on something you haven't seen.
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Post by Tanrar on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:19 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
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RandomClassic wrote:NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.

Only race I'd call bad is California, everything else was fine. Then again I'm probably the only one who has watched all the races this year all the way threw.

Texas and this race sucked too.

Ok, has anybody besides me watched all of the races start to finish this year? If not, you can't make that statement. Because of the same reason Alta told me which makes sense. You can't comment on something you haven't seen.

I watched all 267 laps of this race. It was a complete borefest except for the restarts and the last 5 laps.

Get off your high horse, sir.
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:20 pm

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Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.
Daytona: Good race, Terrible finish
California: Boring
Phenoix: Boring
Marty: Only exciting at the end
Bristol: The best race they could've run on that track
Rest of the race i can't think of have been boring.
There has been a couple good Truck and Nationwide races i can't think about right now. But Cup has been sucking for the most part.

This race is more of me crapping on the predictability as i missed most of the race due to real life issues, so i'm not in much position to judge how exciting it was. But the top 10 was almost the same as it was the past few weeks.

Richmond next week. Grab the pillows boys!
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by day500champ1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:21 pm

pennst24 wrote:
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Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.

Please Griffin open your eyes. F1 and IndyCar are much better so far and you don't want to admit it.

I haven't watched F1 (I've already stated why) so I can't argue that. But, I've seen two of the three IndyCar races and Long Beach was probably the best of three but they weren't best of the year so far.

Maybe you should get off your NASCAR high horse and watch an F1 race. Record it even. You should take in ALL the facts before coming to a conclusion.

Why does it matter if I watch F1 or not? I don't want to watch; I don't have to. As you should've read, I didn't give an opinion on the F1 race because I didn't watch. I only gave an opinion on what I've watched.
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Post by AntmanB on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:21 pm

And now for Richmond Which May or May not be a Borefest.
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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by PKligBKFan on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:23 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
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day500champ1 wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:NASCAR seriously needs to fix the schedule. These first 8 races have BLOWN with the exceptions of Daytona and Martinsville.

Only race I'd call bad is California, everything else was fine. Then again I'm probably the only one who has watched all the races this year all the way threw.

Texas and this race sucked too.

Ok, has anybody besides me watched all of the races start to finish this year? If not, you can't make that statement. Because of the same reason Alta told me which makes sense. You can't comment on something you haven't seen.

Me. I actually thoroughly enjoyed this race, until the end when hamlin won...
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:25 pm

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Re: STP 400 - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:26 pm

Alta wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:
Alta wrote:Seriously might be the worst start to a Nascar season I've ever seen.

I don't think so. But, then again we have differing opinions.
Daytona: Good race, Terrible finish
California: Boring
Phenoix: Boring
Marty: Only exciting at the end
Bristol: The best race they could've run on that track
Rest of the race i can't think of have been boring.
There has been a couple good Truck and Nationwide races i can't think about right now. But Cup has been sucking for the most part.

This race is more of me crapping on the predictability as i missed most of the race due to real life issues, so i'm not in much position to judge how exciting it was. But the top 10 was almost the same as it was the past few weeks.

Richmond next week. Grab the pillows boys!

What about Vegas?
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