Race 20: Brazil
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
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- Atkins left livid after poor Brazil performance
Ben Atkins was left fuming after a poor performance in the Round of Brazil seen him finish 7 laps down, while also being the most pesky backmarker to lap, frustrating many other drivers around him. Atkins has a mechanical failure on the #50 Tutino, which left him well off the pace, but instead of being pulled off the track, Atkins stuck it out to finish the race, but not all was as it appeared.
"I wanted to come off the track," said Atkins, "but my team told me to stick it out to try and get points... it's illogical. We were so far off the pace and my spotter, who I did trust entirely before today, just was useless. He cleared me low when cars were still coming, he told me to go high when cars started to pass there... absolutely pathetic."
"I haven't looked like the sharpest tool in the shed this year, and I will take blame for it. The incident with Falkner... I tried to go high and he got on my outside and I almost wrecked the both of us. I wasn't paying attention... all on me. There are some days where I've drove like a moron, and days where I've been proud of myself and the team. I feel like we don't get the credit for our good runs but we're the laughing stock of the paddock when we have a bad day. I usually have nothing but credit to say about this team, but not today. Completely embarrassing, and I'm disappointed in what we did today."
Ben Atkins lost a position in the points after a 25th place finish, moving him down to 38th. Atkins remains ahead of his teammate Benoit Voeckler in the points, despites Voeckler's 5 top 20 finishes compared to Atkins' 3, with a 13th place finish at the Ohio Motor Speedway remaining as Atkins' best showing of the season.
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
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- Woodard furious at 31 team for their idiocy
"What spotter tells someone to go high when their engine explodes and they're next to the fucking apron?!" Woodard told reporters after he got out of the medical center some time later. "I can understand the guy was racing in the TM Master Cup for the first time and did well enough, but his team and spotter should have known better." Woodard had been rear ended due to being held up by the 31, which had continued to spill fluids and decreased visibility due to the smoke. Woodard had been running in the top 10 for most of the race and had been looking forward to a good finish. He said nothing of the 50 team, who he didn't have many issues with the 50 car being as slow as it was.
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
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- Macena happy with solid performance
After getting a win in the Independent's Trophy Special and a 23rd place in the Grand Prix of Gravis City, Gabriel Macena follows his results with a 21st place in his hometown of São Paulo. Follwing the race, Macena that now holds a 16th place average finish was delighted with the result: "It's unfortunate the car isn't the fastest in any of those tracks, I had to drive the wheels out of it to survive the 150 laps and even then I lagged behind when I had to go faster, still, I've got my result here, just need to follow up in Argentina. I'll be 'behind enemy lines' if you know what I mean".
His teammate João Paulo Vidal wasn't nearly as lucky, as a piston failure during the first caution period ended his chances. Vidal has been disapppointing in the #78 car, achieving only one championship point, in Germany, finishing his other two points paying starts in the 41st position. This put Vidal's seat under jeopardy, but it isunknown if Saar do Brasil will even return with that name in the next year. As Macena could buy out the rest of the controlling shares.
The current Independent's Trophy standings see the #71 jumping to 6th place with 197 points. If he finishes the next event in Argentina in 39th or better he will take the lead from Percy, however to curb any chance of Archer Harris getting close to passing him, Gabriel needs to put his Eagle inside of the top 10 decisively and pray that Harris doesn't finish the race at Joliet,however Harris has not only been consistent, he averages a 19th place finish in this season.
A few rumours point out Macena will get a opportunity to drive BlackDiamond Racing's 3rd car at Joliet, as he drives for that team in TM Lights, but that has yet to be confirmed and does not seem likely.
UPDATE: Devereux's disqualification gives Macena the 20th place and a point, regarding the Independent's Trophy situation this keeps Macena in 6th place, however, he only needs to start the race to take the Trophy lead, however, he still needs to put that car at least in the 20th position if Ryan Matthews and Archer Harris finish last in their respective races in New York and Joliet. If Ryan Matthews and Archer Harris do their average result in 19th place, Macena would need to finish 5th and pray for Matthews and Harris to not qualify for Decatur.
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
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- Derrike Chaiter pleased with his 23rd place finish. "Man, it was pretty damn fun out there. I had a slower car and had mech issues, but it was fun."
"I'm pretty surprised I finished 23rd because I was involved amongst the massive crash in turn 3."
"I'm looking to maybe upgrade the engines in the Delgado-DeGarmo cars, because, they're slow."
"I'll have to see what they think."
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
Did Dexbruex get a penalty?
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
historyracer wrote:Did Dexbruex get a penalty?
"There is no driver on the roster that is Dexbreux. Now, there's a Adrian Devereux, per twitter and race commentary, he is currently under investigation for cutting the pit line, or something along those lines. Any announcements will be made in due time, so hold your horses." -Woodard
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
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- Plissken Salvages 4th; Hopes Devereux Gets Penalized
Kurt Plissken managed to bring his #16 Spark Boy Lycoia Interceptor across the finish line in 4th place. Despite getting trapped behind the mechanically challenged #50 car of Ben Atkins and losing a ton of track position, Plissken was able to recover and make his way back towards the front and even be in contention for the win.
Plissken was technically "mathematically eliminated" in spite registering a top 5 result.
"We're placed in the unenviable position of hoping that Adrian Devereux gets docked those 25 points for whatever infraction he is being investigated for at the present," said PSI team owner William Power.
"Yeah, I hate to root for a guy to get popped by league officials," stated Plissken. "Because you know how much I love those guys, but I'm kind of forced into this position so that my slim championship hopes stay alive."
Officials have not determined Adrian Devereux's fate as of this writing.
As for Ben Atkins, Plissken remained somewhat understated in his response.
"There's a lot of piling on of Ben right now, some of it deserved and some not. We've all been there... or we all will be at some point if you race long enough. Everybody will be in that position sooner or later. It's inevitable. Was I happy about it? No... not especially at the time. Everybody has a bad day in a junk car. It's ludicrous for him to even consider quitting over an incident such as this though."
The race at Brazil this season seemed to not be plagued by communication issues and other strange phenomena that took place at the same event venue in 2013.- Spoiler:
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
Penalty Report:
Car #7, Adrien Devereux, Hodges-Walter Racing
- Disqualification from the Round of Brazil and Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for unsafe conduct in pit lane.
Car #10, Yuliya Nosova, Lynxe Racing
- 20-place grid demotion in the next event for causing an avoidable collision.
Car #50, Ben Atkins, Scuderia Tutino
- Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for ignoring blue flags.
Car #313, Mariano Zavala, Matthews Motorsports
- Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for causing an avoidable collision.
Devereux Disqualified For Pit Lane Infringement
TM Master Cup series officials announced that Adrien Devereux, the TM Master Cup points leader, had been disqualified from the Round of Brazil for cutting through multiple pit boxes. Devereux's penalty was for the Frenchman dipping two wheels over the pit stall line, effectively short-cutting the pit lane while staying on the pit speed limiter. Teammate Mélanie Clévenot and Manticore Engineering driver Louis Kingston were penalized for cutting through too many stalls leading into their pit stalls under the first caution.
Devereux did not repeat the infraction for the remainder of the race, though he was noticeably using a different line under the second caution.
TM Master Cup series sporting regulations specify that a car cannot drive through multiple pit stalls when attempting to enter its own stall, provided that the other pit stalls did not have crewmen over the wall. Race director Ryan Reinhart stated that, due to the curved nature of the pit lane, that Devereux was gaining an advantage. Hodges-Walter Racing argued that since two wheels were in the pit lane and not in other stalls with crewmen over the wall, that they were not driving through manned pit stalls. As a result, the team has appealed the penalty, saying that the penalty was too harsh.
"We told Ryan [Reinhart] at the start of the year someone could do this. Almost everyone does this on the short ovals in the curved parts of the pits." Devereux said on the Dan Mullen Radio Hour.
"If they want to change the rules so everyone has to stay in line, or a certain distance from the pit stalls, that would be best. Right now, the rules allow us to do this, and we knew someone would try it long before we came here... I won't say names, but we saw someone doing it at Quincy and Race Control said they were allowed to do it... and it will be even easier to abuse in Argentina."
Tutino: Electrical Problems Contributed to Atkins Woes
Scuderia Tutino released a statement on Tuesday indicating that the woes faced by driver Ben Atkins were partially electrical. Atkins's speed dropped dramatically midway through the race, where he became an impediment, running as slow as 4 seconds off the pace. He was displayed a minimum speed warning on lap 96, but the warning was withdrawn after his speed increased.
"Ben [Atkins] had a radio problem in the first 20 laps, the radio went out entirely. The problem fixed itself after the first caution, and we did not know the cause at the time. About lap 65 we lost control of the car's ECU so we could not get the full amount of boost, and the radio would go out every 2 laps and then come back for another two laps." team owner Marino Tutino stated.
"The 50 team tried to fix the problem from the pit wall since they can communicate with the ECU directly to reset it and determined what the problem was. They changed the ECU under the last caution and within 5 laps... same problems came back, but not the radio problem."
Tutino, who normally sits on top of Benoit Voeckler's pit box, questioned the decision not to bring Atkins in the pits.
"I think the 50 team needed to bring him in, but they must have felt that they could fix the problem. We need to see why they made that decision but everyone on that end of our team was in panic mode. That should not happen." Tutino ended his statement by offering apologies to the paddock on behalf of his team.
Volpi Racing Team, whom Tutino receives engines for, experienced a similar issue in preseason testing on the opening day, but the problem was fixed when the ECU was reset.
TM Master Cup series race director Ryan Reinhart confirmed that two ECUs had apparently experienced problems on car 50, and said that it did factor into the penalties levied at Ben Atkins.
(OOC: This was partially based off work experiences since I work in telematics)
Car #7, Adrien Devereux, Hodges-Walter Racing
- Disqualification from the Round of Brazil and Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for unsafe conduct in pit lane.
Car #10, Yuliya Nosova, Lynxe Racing
- 20-place grid demotion in the next event for causing an avoidable collision.
Car #50, Ben Atkins, Scuderia Tutino
- Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for ignoring blue flags.
Car #313, Mariano Zavala, Matthews Motorsports
- Demotion to the back of the grid in the next event for causing an avoidable collision.
Devereux Disqualified For Pit Lane Infringement
TM Master Cup series officials announced that Adrien Devereux, the TM Master Cup points leader, had been disqualified from the Round of Brazil for cutting through multiple pit boxes. Devereux's penalty was for the Frenchman dipping two wheels over the pit stall line, effectively short-cutting the pit lane while staying on the pit speed limiter. Teammate Mélanie Clévenot and Manticore Engineering driver Louis Kingston were penalized for cutting through too many stalls leading into their pit stalls under the first caution.
Devereux did not repeat the infraction for the remainder of the race, though he was noticeably using a different line under the second caution.
TM Master Cup series sporting regulations specify that a car cannot drive through multiple pit stalls when attempting to enter its own stall, provided that the other pit stalls did not have crewmen over the wall. Race director Ryan Reinhart stated that, due to the curved nature of the pit lane, that Devereux was gaining an advantage. Hodges-Walter Racing argued that since two wheels were in the pit lane and not in other stalls with crewmen over the wall, that they were not driving through manned pit stalls. As a result, the team has appealed the penalty, saying that the penalty was too harsh.
"We told Ryan [Reinhart] at the start of the year someone could do this. Almost everyone does this on the short ovals in the curved parts of the pits." Devereux said on the Dan Mullen Radio Hour.
"If they want to change the rules so everyone has to stay in line, or a certain distance from the pit stalls, that would be best. Right now, the rules allow us to do this, and we knew someone would try it long before we came here... I won't say names, but we saw someone doing it at Quincy and Race Control said they were allowed to do it... and it will be even easier to abuse in Argentina."
Tutino: Electrical Problems Contributed to Atkins Woes
Scuderia Tutino released a statement on Tuesday indicating that the woes faced by driver Ben Atkins were partially electrical. Atkins's speed dropped dramatically midway through the race, where he became an impediment, running as slow as 4 seconds off the pace. He was displayed a minimum speed warning on lap 96, but the warning was withdrawn after his speed increased.
"Ben [Atkins] had a radio problem in the first 20 laps, the radio went out entirely. The problem fixed itself after the first caution, and we did not know the cause at the time. About lap 65 we lost control of the car's ECU so we could not get the full amount of boost, and the radio would go out every 2 laps and then come back for another two laps." team owner Marino Tutino stated.
"The 50 team tried to fix the problem from the pit wall since they can communicate with the ECU directly to reset it and determined what the problem was. They changed the ECU under the last caution and within 5 laps... same problems came back, but not the radio problem."
Tutino, who normally sits on top of Benoit Voeckler's pit box, questioned the decision not to bring Atkins in the pits.
"I think the 50 team needed to bring him in, but they must have felt that they could fix the problem. We need to see why they made that decision but everyone on that end of our team was in panic mode. That should not happen." Tutino ended his statement by offering apologies to the paddock on behalf of his team.
Volpi Racing Team, whom Tutino receives engines for, experienced a similar issue in preseason testing on the opening day, but the problem was fixed when the ECU was reset.
TM Master Cup series race director Ryan Reinhart confirmed that two ECUs had apparently experienced problems on car 50, and said that it did factor into the penalties levied at Ben Atkins.
(OOC: This was partially based off work experiences since I work in telematics)
Re: Race 20: Brazil
gwoodard41 wrote:historyracer wrote:Did Dexbruex get a penalty?
"There is no driver on the roster that is Dexbreux. Now, there's a Adrian Devereux, per twitter and race commentary, he is currently under investigation for cutting the pit line, or something along those lines. Any announcements will be made in due time, so hold your horses." -Woodard
Ok. (Sorry not good with spelling.)
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Re: Race 20: Brazil
You called itSnakePlissken wrote:
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Plissken Salvages 4th; Hopes Devereux Gets Penalized
Kurt Plissken managed to bring his #16 Spark Boy Lycoia Interceptor across the finish line in 4th place. Despite getting trapped behind the mechanically challenged #50 car of Ben Atkins and losing a ton of track position, Plissken was able to recover and make his way back towards the front and even be in contention for the win.
Plissken was technically "mathematically eliminated" in spite registering a top 5 result.
"We're placed in the unenviable position of hoping that Adrian Devereux gets docked those 25 points for whatever infraction he is being investigated for at the present," said PSI team owner William Power.
"Yeah, I hate to root for a guy to get popped by league officials," stated Plissken. "Because you know how much I love those guys, but I'm kind of forced into this position so that my slim championship hopes stay alive."
Officials have not determined Adrian Devereux's fate as of this writing.
As for Ben Atkins, Plissken remained somewhat understated in his response.
"There's a lot of piling on of Ben right now, some of it deserved and some not. We've all been there... or we all will be at some point if you race long enough. Everybody will be in that position sooner or later. It's inevitable. Was I happy about it? No... not especially at the time. Everybody has a bad day in a junk car. It's ludicrous for him to even consider quitting over an incident such as this though."
The race at Brazil this season seemed to not be plagued by communication issues and other strange phenomena that took place at the same event venue in 2013.
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