CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

by day500champ1 Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:12 pm

Well, what to do this week? After all there is only the NWS race at Chicago right? Oh way a minute, the trucks ON dirt.

That's right. For the first time, the trucks take to Eldora. This is Wednesday night, so not only is it a midsummer classic, it's a midweek classic.

by Backmarker Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:18 pm

This race is next week. Razz

by day500champ1 Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Oops, my bad. Thought it was this week. Didn't notice the date.

by RealRacer4 Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:39 am

Here's the entry list to the truck race: http://www.jayski.com/news/campingworld/2013/story/_/page/2013cts10eldora-entry

1	3	Ty Dillon	Bass Pro Shops	13 Chevy	Richard Childress
2	4	Jeb Burton #	Arrowhead	13 Chevy	Harry Scott Jr
3	5	TBA	Applebee's	13 Chevy	Richard Wauters
4	6	Jared Landers	Mark Martin Automotive & Peak Oil	13 Chevy	Eddie Sharp
5	7	John Wes Townley	Zaxby's	13 Toyota	Tom Deloach
6	07	Jimmy Weller III	TBA	13 Chevy	Ken Smith
7	8	Max Gresham	Made in the USA Brand	12 Chevy	Eddie Sharp
8	9	Ron Hornaday Jr.	Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff	13 Chevy	Joe Denette
9	10	Jennifer Jo Cobb	Driven2Honor.org	11 RAM	Jennifer Jo Cobb
10	13	Tracy Hines	TBA	13 Toyota	Duke Thorson
11	17	Timothy Peters	Parts Plus	13 Toyota	Tom Deloach
12	18	Joey Coulter	Darrell Gwynn Foundation	13 Toyota	Kyle Busch
13	19	Dave Blaney(i)	Reese Towpower	13 Ford	Brad Keselowski
14	24	Brennan Newberry	Qore-24	13 Chevy	Bob Newberry
15	29	Ryan Blaney	Cooper Standard	13 Ford	Brad Keselowski
16	30	Kyle Larson	Clorox	13 Chevy	Steve Turner
17	31	James Buescher	Rheem	13 Chevy	Steve Turner
18	32	Miguel Paludo	AccuDoc Solutions	13 Chevy	Steve Turner
19	34	Ryan Newman(i)	Oral-B Aggressive Design	13 Chevy	Steve Turner
20	39	Austin Dillon(i)	RSS Racing	13 Chevy	Susan Bates
21	44	JR Heffner	Park East Sales, A.Colarusso and Son	13 Chevy	Robert Colarusso
22	51	Scott Bloomquist	Toyota Care	13 Toyota	Kyle Busch
23	52	Ken Schrader	Federated Auto Parts	12 Toyota	Ken Schrader
24	54	Darrell Wallace Jr.	Camping World / Good Sam	13 Toyota	Kyle Busch
25	57	Norm Benning	Stone Mountain Guns and Gold	13 Chevy	Norm Benning
26	60	Dakoda Armstrong	Winfield	13 Chevy	Vickie Compton
27	62	Brendan Gaughan	South Point	13 Chevy	Richard Childress
28	63	Justin Jennings	TBA	13 Chevy	Michael Mitler
29	68	Clay Greenfield	TBA	13 RAM	Clay Greenfield
30	77	German Quiroga #	OtterBox	13 Toyota	Tom Deloach
31	81	Kenny Wallace(i)	GrimeBoss/GunBroker	13 Toyota	Bobby Dotter
32	84	Jeff Babcock	BulkMaterialLift.com	09 Chevy	Chris Fontaine
33	88	Matt Crafton	Ideal DoorsMenards	13 Toyota	Rhonda Thorson
34	93	Chris Jones	RSS Racing	13 Chevy	Pam Sieg
35	98	Johnny Sauter	Carolina Nut Co - Curb Records	13 Toyota	Mike Curb
36	99	Bryan Silas	Rockingham Speedway	13 Chevy	Chris Baluch

Honestly, I was expecting a lot more than 36 trucks on the entry list. Who knows? We may see more drivers join the entry list. I have a list of drivers you may not be familiar that will explain what kind of background they have.

Spoiler:

by BBoy Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:55 am

Wouldn't be surprised that the fact NASCAR locked in the top 20 for a 30 truck race turned away potential one-offs.

by PKligBKFan Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:59 am

We only have two true one-off teams in this race. The 44 and the 6. We do have a bunch of one-off drivers. Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.

by navycook75 Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:03 pm

Nascar has a rule that if the owner of a track is a NASCAR driver, the driver cannot compete at that track.

That's why Tony isn't racing Eldora.

by RealRacer4 Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:22 pm

Also:

Eldora tire developement a challenge for Goodyear: For Goodyear, the challenge of building tires for NASCAR is a diverse undertaking. Making safe and competitive tires as the exclusive supplier for NASCAR's top three national series means developing tires for race tracks ranging from one-half mile to 2.66 miles long, on concrete and asphalt, and surfaces as rough as a cheese grater and as smooth as glass. This season, with the Camping World Truck Series adding the dirt track of Eldora Speedway to the schedule, the challenge got even bigger. The inaugural "Mudsummer Classic," scheduled for Wednesday, July 24 at the half-mile track in Western Ohio, will be the first NASCAR national series race held on dirt in more than 40 years. But for Goodyear, who has been involved in a wide array of racing disciplines over the years, it was just a matter of dipping into the playbook and coming up with a solution. The new "Wrangler" tires that Goodyear will bring to Eldora for the Truck Series are based upon a dirt modified tire in its tire line. However, the NASCAR dirt tire has been widened to 11 inches (from 10 inches) to provide a larger contact patch with the track and give the trucks more grip. The two primary differences from the standard race tires run on ovals in NASCAR's top three series is that the Eldora tire will be a bias ply tire and feature a tread pattern. The bias ply tire construction is not as stiff as the radial tire used on paved NASCAR ovals, therefore it is more compliant and more able to envelope the irregularities of a dirt surface. As far as the tread, the Eldora tire features Goodyear's G23 pattern, which is a standard block pattern. It has grooves and biting edges to help evacuate dirt from underneath the tire, giving the trucks more grip. The tread compound itself is on the "softer" end of the spectrum, which will also help with grip. While the Eldora right-side tire will basically remain the same height as a NASCAR tire run on asphalt tracks, the left-side is a little shorter to build in more stagger, which will help the trucks turn better. For Goodyear, the tire development process started last October with a test on the 10-inch tire at Eldora with track owner and three-time Sprint Cup Series champion Tony Stewart, former Camping World Truck Series champion Austin Dillon, and his brother and current Truck Series contender Ty Dillon. In addition to seeing how the tread pattern evacuated the dirt and the compound put down rubber, it was important that there were no clearance issues which could lead to the tires rubbing against the truck or its suspension parts. Once Goodyear produced the 11-inch tire, Ty Dillon went back to 311 Speedway, a dirt track in Pine Hall, NC. When everything checked out with that test, Goodyear had its Eldora tire.(Goodyear PR)(7-12-2013)

Also, it's called the MUD Summer Classic, not Mid Summer.

by Lucstar88 Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:13 pm

Dillon with RSS... wat

by **crl** Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:34 pm

The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.

by Chives2112 Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Dillon with RSS... wat

It's an RCR truck with RSS owner points so that they could be guaranteed a spot in the field, if I remember correctly. Since they're using Ryan Sieg's owner points, he's probably going to go over to the other RSS truck driven by Chris Jones in the #93.

crl wrote:The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.

Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference. Razz

by RetrogradeRenegade Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:17 pm

crl wrote:The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.

CWTS - Mudsummer Classic Picard-facepalm-hotlink

by Sparkz47 Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:37 pm

Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference.

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?

by Mother of Invention Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:47 am

PKligBKFan wrote: Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.

You mean that wasn't a Jayski Typo?

Shocked

by PKligBKFan Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:05 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote: Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.

You mean that wasn't a Jayski Typo?

Nope. She announced that a few weeks ago.

by flyingturns89 Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:02 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference.

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?

I think calling it the Mudsummer Classic was Stewart's idea.

by Sparkz47 Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:07 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference.

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?

I think calling it the Mudsummer Classic was Stewart's idea.

CWTS - Mudsummer Classic 6022-ron-swanson-da-fuk

by PKligBKFan Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:05 pm

Jason Bowles will drive for Richie Wauters in the 5 truck at Eldora in place of Tim George, Jr. with Valvoline sponsorship.

by RealRacer4 Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:08 pm

It's a weird feeling knowing that I'll be at Eldora in person tomorrow. Being there to watch a NASCAR race at a dirt track is going to be something else.

by RealRacer4 Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:16 pm

Sorry for the double post but SPEED is currently broadcasting truck practice and these are the first practice session results:

1 Larson-19.645
2 D. Blaney- 19.656
3 R. Blaney- 19.918
4 A. Dillon- 19.982
5 T. Dillon- 20.205
6 B. Gaughan- 20.349
7 J. Townley- 20.483
8 S. Bloomquist- 20.496
9 R. Hornaday- 20.499
10 D. Armstrong- 20.538

Some big surprises like JWT and Armstrong. I heard JWT tore up a car in the first practice session though.

Holy crap. I've never seen Eldora that bumpy before. After hearing what happened during the Late Model Dream last month, having those windshields aren't the worst thing in the world. A couple of drivers had their helmets damaged from rocks flying into their cock pits (dirt cars never run windshields), one of which had a broken nose and bruised eye as a result of it. I still wish they can remove the windshields and have drivers wear tear-off on their helmets so it gives the track workers more freedom to do what they want with the track, like making it a lot more tacky than it was when they first started the first practice session.

Stream for truck practice: http://www.justin.tv/besweeet50#/w/6255193984/3

by Backmarker Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:00 pm

>tfw when SPEED has no audio on all the TVs in this hotel

;_;

by RACECAR Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:33 pm

Such an odd site seeing the trucks sideways through the dirt but then again, I said the same about the TORC series when they plowed through the turns. Looks just as cool.

One thing I do wonder is going off the winged sprint cars, maybe having something like a blade across the top (down the right side) of the Truck as well as some more of that skew as well as some additional stagger would help them turn through the dirt better.

by Alta Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:35 pm

This looks like a rain race. lol

by RealRacer4 Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:14 pm

That does it for the practice session. Watching it on SPEED has certainly given me a good idea of what we might be seeing tomorrow. Though, the way the track conditions are now won't mean anything tomorrow. It's supposed to be cooler here tomorrow and the track workers will completely re-do the track once the dirt late model race ends tonight (which I wish SPEED Channel was broadcasting

). Track conditions on dirt change a lot more often than pavement tracks, which is what makes dirt racing a challenge.

JWT has certainly shown his old self today. A few drivers, like James Buescher and Jeb Burton are struggling quite a bit on getting the hang of driving on dirt. Seeing the Dillon brothers, Blaneys, Larson, Schrader, and Tracy Hines being fast is no surprise at all. A driver worth keeping an eye on is Scott Bloomquist. He tends to take a much different approach from most drivers and has great knowledge on race cars as far as set-ups, what lines to run, etc. I've read some articles on him and they're worth reading. One of the surprises have been Ron Hornaday. He's been consistently quick in both practice sessions. I have expected Matt Crafton to do well in practice since he raced some dirt modifieds earlier this year and has struggled.

I'll be watching this race at the track tomorrow. I can't wait to see how the racing will be throughout the night.

by bigdc48 Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:45 am

Race of the year. Calling it.

by day500champ1 Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:22 pm

Well, the first q race is over. And old man Schrader wins from the pole. So he will lead them to the green in the main event tonight.

by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:26 pm

Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!

by navycook75 Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:26 pm

Old guys kicking ass.

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by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:30 pm

Heat 2 on now:

Jared Landers
Matt Crafton
Darrell Wallace Jr
Miguel Paludo
Dakota Armstrong
Norm Benning
Jeff Babcock

by Metro 6r4 Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:37 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!

Do you have the link? livebox isn't working for me

by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:41 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!
Do you have the link? livebox isn't working for me

And it didn't work.... still trying

by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:46 pm

Heat 3 on:

Timothy Peters
Jason Bowles
Clay Greenfield
Brenden Gaughan
Kyle Larson
Ron Hornaday
Ryan Blaney

Edit: Timothy Peters wins. Heat 4 coming up. Lineup for this race:

James Buescher
John Wes Townley
Brenden Newberry
Austin Dillon
Kenny Wallace
Max Gresham
Joe Cobb

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:02 pm

>Speed USA 15 minuets behind Speed AUS.

lel

by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:03 pm

lol
kenny wins heat 4....

by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:08 pm

Old Man Ken is the oldest racer to get poles in the 3 nascar series at 58
passed Dick Trickle who did it at 57

by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:11 pm

Heat 5 to begin. Lineup:

Johnny Sauter
Jeb Burton
Ty Dillon
Ryan Newman
Justin Jennings
Bryan Silas
German Quiroga

by **crl** Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:20 pm

QQ Sauter. It's dirt racing.

by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:25 pm

When does Johnny Sauter not through a fit about contact? You don't have to even so much as touch him when he wrecks and he'll get all bitchy. Remember watching him on that program that use to air when it went behind the scenes with him, total brat and this was a guy in crappy equipment not even capable of qualifying every week.

by navycook75 Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:29 pm

>Based Stacey

by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:38 pm

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

LCQ Coming up. Lineup includes:

Justin Jennings
Bryan Silas
JR Heffner
Jimmy Weller
Jared Landers
Jeff Babcock
Joe Cobb
Jason Bowles
Brenden Newberry
Norm Benning
Clay Greenfield

So who do you think will be the 5 that transfer?

by RealRacingRoots Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:48 pm

Drinking Game time: Everytime someone says "Slide Job" TAKE A DRINK! Laughing

Still, thoroughly enjoying this racing, wild start in the LCW. And the 07 goes around, caution. This just got good.

by **crl** Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:53 pm

Wow. Nice job by Norm Benning there.

by navycook75 Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:55 pm

RACECAR wrote:

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

From what I heard he's a total bro outside of racing.

by RACECAR Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Awesome finish, Love that battle with Norm

And now, the final:

Johnny Sauter
Jeb Burton
Ty Dillon
Ryan Newman
German Quiroga
James Buescher
John Wes Townley
Austin Dillon
Kenny Wallace
Max Gresham
Timothy Peters
Brenden Gaughan
Kyle Larson
Ron Hornaday
Ryan Blaney
Matt Crafton
Darrell Wallace Jr
Miguel Paludo
Dakota Armstrong
Ken Schreider
Scott Bloomquist
Joey Coulter
Dave Blaney
Brenden Newberry
Jeff Babcock
Jason Bowles
Justin Jennings
Norm Benning

Predictions?

navycook75 wrote:
RACECAR wrote:

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

From what I heard he's a total bro outside of racing.

Sounds cool.

by conrail1990 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:09 pm

[quote="RealRacingRoots"]Drinking Game time: Everytime someone says "Slide Job" TAKE A DRINK! Laughing

[quote] *burp* Shut up, you talking....chicken.. drunken

by Metro 6r4 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:12 pm

I'm calling it now, this will probably be the biggest contender for race of the year.

by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:28 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:I'm calling it now, this will probably be the biggest contender for race of the year.

The Race! Hope it goes well!

by Chives2112 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:31 pm

It is time.

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by Lucstar88 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:40 pm

PS3's power cord disconnected.
FUUUUUUU

by navycook75 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:42 pm

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