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Post by PKligBKFan Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:04 pm

Nationwide Series driver Jeremy Clements has been suspended indefinitely by NASCAR for a "Code of Conduct" violation. Clements made "Insensitive and Intolerable" remarks during an interview per NASCAR Sr. V.P. Steve O'Donnell

tweet via Bob Pockrass. Lots of different media members have tweeted this. Unsure what the comment is as it has not been announced. This really is too bad. Jeremy is a great job. Somehow I get the feeling he is being suspended for a bullshit reason...
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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:16 pm

Indefinite could mean just one week......
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Post by f1fan12 Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:18 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:Nationwide Series driver Jeremy Clements has been suspended indefinitely by NASCAR for a "Code of Conduct" violation. Clements made "Insensitive and Intolerable" remarks during an interview per NASCAR Sr. V.P. Steve O'Donnell

tweet via Bob Pockrass. Lots of different media members have tweeted this. Unsure what the comment is as it has not been announced. This really is too bad. Jeremy is a great job. Somehow I get the feeling he is being suspended for a bullshit reason...

Get ready for NASCAR INCONSISTANCY!!!
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Post by PKligBKFan Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:19 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:Indefinite could mean just one week......

That is one week too long. Especially if the following is the truth.

Jeff Gluck ‏@jeff_gluck
Dunno if this is it, but I just found an interview with Clements from last week in which he speculated NASCAR fixed the pole for Danica.

NASCAR. The place where if you threaten to beat the shit out of a reporter gets you a one week suspension but speculating something to be fixed is an indefinite suspension.
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Post by Lucstar88 Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:21 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:Indefinite could mean just one week......

That is one week too long. Especially if the following is the truth.

Jeff Gluck ‏@jeff_gluck
Dunno if this is it, but I just found an interview with Clements from last week in which he speculated NASCAR fixed the pole for Danica.

NASCAR. The place where if you threaten to beat the shit out of a reporter gets you a one week suspension but speculating something to be fixed is an indefinite suspension.

Nascar = Dictatorship
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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:54 pm

Ok so the likely two things that got him suspended.

1.) A radio interview he did on "Planet Radio"

2.) A comment was made Saturday about the race (Possibly about the finish, and maybe wishing death on people?)
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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:28 pm

Also this is Section 7-5 (Albeit on the K&N Series Rulebook. The three major series aren't public about there, but it can be presumed the same.)

A NASCAR Member shall not make (or cause to be made) a public statement and/or communication that criticizes, ridicules, or otherwise disparages another person based upon that person’s race, color, creed, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, marital status, religion, age, or handicapping condition.
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Post by Alta Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:51 pm

More needs to come up for me to render a decision on how fair the penalty. Nascar may have just made themselves like fools or Clements is going crazy. I don't know which.
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Post by PYLrulz Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:18 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:Ok so the likely two things that got him suspended.

1.) A radio interview he did on "Planet Radio"

2.) A comment was made Saturday about the race (Possibly about the finish, and maybe wishing death on people?)

If it's because of #2, then I say that ought to make him think twice about spewing such bullcrap

If for any other reason, that's heavy-handed, and a fine would be tolerable (any other league, you spout off about officiating or how things are run, it's gonna mean a shot at your checkbook)
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Post by RyanB06 Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:34 pm

Supposedly this was the comment (found on RuRa forum, attributed to central Florida radio program "Racing Radio"). And yes, it's about Danica:

"I think she's stuck up and not really that pretty, although I wouldn't turn down her. Both the NASCAR fans and NASCAR have a fixed pole for her. Really don't like that cause she doesn't deserve it but she opened herself up to stuff like this. And for what? Another pole at Daytona(LOL). Come on, either win or be a another pretty face kissing the winner."

Lots of problems there. Rigging allegation, multiple sexist comments...yeah.

If this is what he said (and admittedly, there's no corroborating evidence to support this yet), then Clements deserved what he got.
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Post by PYLrulz Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:46 pm

RyanB06 wrote:Supposedly this was the comment (found on RuRa forum, attributed to central Florida radio program "Racing Radio"). And yes, it's about Danica:

"I think she's stuck up and not really that pretty, although I wouldn't turn down her. Both the NASCAR fans and NASCAR have a fixed pole for her. Really don't like that cause she doesn't deserve it but she opened herself up to stuff like this. And for what? Another pole at Daytona(LOL). Come on, either win or be a another pretty face kissing the winner."

Lots of problems there. Rigging allegation, multiple sexist comments...yeah.

If this is what he said (and admittedly, there's no corroborating evidence to support this yet), then Clements deserved what he got.

Gonna somewhat disagree. Most sports leagues, you'll get fined. Shouldn't be any different here
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Post by Rykia Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:20 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
RyanB06 wrote:Supposedly this was the comment (found on RuRa forum, attributed to central Florida radio program "Racing Radio"). And yes, it's about Danica:

"I think she's stuck up and not really that pretty, although I wouldn't turn down her. Both the NASCAR fans and NASCAR have a fixed pole for her. Really don't like that cause she doesn't deserve it but she opened herself up to stuff like this. And for what? Another pole at Daytona(LOL). Come on, either win or be a another pretty face kissing the winner."

Lots of problems there. Rigging allegation, multiple sexist comments...yeah.

If this is what he said (and admittedly, there's no corroborating evidence to support this yet), then Clements deserved what he got.

Gonna somewhat disagree. Most sports leagues, you'll get fined. Shouldn't be any different here

But remember, this is NASCAR, where the punishments are inconsistent and the officials like to pick on and make examples of the 'little guys.' Also, the wording of the fixed pole sentence is very weird, doesn't seem correct to me scratch .

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Post by Mother of Invention Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:40 pm

Also it's been confirmed that was not it.

The article that got him in trouble has yet to be released. It was a 1on1 interview that took place last Saturday. reportedly the writer got concerned and sent the article to NASCAR before making it public.
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Post by PYLrulz Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:14 am

Mother of Invention wrote:Also it's been confirmed that was not it.

The article that got him in trouble has yet to be released. It was a 1on1 interview that took place last Saturday. reportedly the writer got concerned and sent the article to NASCAR before making it public.

Not it eh?!?

Now I want to know what he said!
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Post by BWard Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:43 am

Oh wow, I am surprised by all this.
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Post by f1fan12 Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:13 am

I can kind of see where NASCAR is coming, but it still is too harsh of a penalty. But, if he said anything about wishing death to people at the Nationwide Race, then perma-ban him.
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Post by Lucstar88 Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:21 am

Rykia_RKXK wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:
RyanB06 wrote:Supposedly this was the comment (found on RuRa forum, attributed to central Florida radio program "Racing Radio"). And yes, it's about Danica:

"I think she's stuck up and not really that pretty, although I wouldn't turn down her. Both the NASCAR fans and NASCAR have a fixed pole for her. Really don't like that cause she doesn't deserve it but she opened herself up to stuff like this. And for what? Another pole at Daytona(LOL). Come on, either win or be a another pretty face kissing the winner."

Lots of problems there. Rigging allegation, multiple sexist comments...yeah.

If this is what he said (and admittedly, there's no corroborating evidence to support this yet), then Clements deserved what he got.

Gonna somewhat disagree. Most sports leagues, you'll get fined. Shouldn't be any different here

Carl Long.....
But remember, this is NASCAR, where the punishments are inconsistent and the officials like to pick on and make examples of the 'little guys.' Also, the wording of the fixed pole sentence is very weird, doesn't seem correct to me scratch .
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Post by Mother of Invention Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:28 pm

Brendan Gaughn's Crew Chief got indefinitely suspended for using the N-word at Marc Davis in 09 and it lasted 19 days.


So if you want NASCAR to be consistent then don't expect Jeremy back till California

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Post by PYLrulz Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:44 pm

In the end, it just comes down to this...

When talking with a media member, ALWAYS assume you are "on the record". Thinking otherwise just gets you in trouble
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:52 pm

>NASCAR being asspained about something said...... on fucking MTV
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Post by Sparkz47 Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:18 pm

Until NASCAR actually quotes his comment somewhere, I'm going to be forced to assume that he said something completely innocuous and NASCAR BS'ed their way through this whole process. Just another example of how the entire organization is a shining example of inconsistent, iron-fisted stupidity.
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Post by Racerfan275 Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:23 pm

Sorry to bump threads, just read Jeremy got reinstated by NASCAR after some counseling

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Post by PYLrulz Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:25 pm

Has anybody got the exact quote that got him suspended?!?
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