Let's Put it to a Vote: 2012 TM Lights (Car Mod)

RACECAR wrote:PWF GNS. I guess the regular Nr2003 Cup mod works too, but I think all the templates would look so much better on those GNS bodies. I'd even be willing to make many of them.

antknee wrote:

RACECAR wrote:PWF GNS. I guess the regular Nr2003 Cup mod works too, but I think all the templates would look so much better on those GNS bodies. I'd even be willing to make many of them.

PWF GNS uses the same temps as the default cup mod so they would look exactly the same. Also, the physics determine the type of racing rather than the actual mod. most mods essentially change the look not the racing.

Cynon wrote:Also, since I could vote for every single option, I did.

Cynon wrote:Also, since I could vote for every single option, I did.

Cynon wrote:

antknee wrote:

RACECAR wrote:PWF GNS. I guess the regular Nr2003 Cup mod works too, but I think all the templates would look so much better on those GNS bodies. I'd even be willing to make many of them.

PWF GNS uses the same temps as the default cup mod so they would look exactly the same. Also, the physics determine the type of racing rather than the actual mod. most mods essentially change the look not the racing.

To expand:

There are only four physics types* in NR2003:

- .cup physics. I used these in 2010 (and for the old TM Cup as well), couldn't get a good race out of them (with some rare exceptions -- got a good points battle with them though). They're the fastest of all physics types.
- .gns physics. I use these for TMMC and I used them for the GRL. Slower than the Cup physics but they seem to put on the best show on an oval track, only beaten on occasions by...
- .cts physics. The biggest difference between CTS and the other two is that CTS physics have epic amounts of drag, which makes them real fun to race at superspeedways online. CTS AI seem to be more greatly affected by spreads in the ratings and they fail the most from what I've seen (although it could be that I've run them with inis designed to give a good race with GNS physics cars, I won't rule that possibility out).
- .pta physics. It's basically an unfinished Trans-Am physics set, but they're very wonky. PTA cars do strange stuff sometimes (like bounce like monster trucks in sand traps). I haven't run enough races with PTA physics to draw any generalizations other than they're the slowest of the four physics types.

* Four legal types. There are others, but they're neither legal (it is illegal to modify the .exe for NR2003), or practical for what I'm going for.

For those of you who love wrecks, then I advise you vote for any mod made by DMR (Desmods) such as ASA90, Cup90, etc, because their damage models are amazing. The ASA90 templates are a bit of a pain to paint on (rear quarterpanels in particular), the Cup90 ones are pretty easy to figure out.

The issue with any template is how hard it is to line up things (decals, bases) that go from one part to another, in particular, things that are common, such as putting a decal over the rear tire, or making a stripe go all the way around the bottom of the car.

Generally speaking, OWR07 and V8 Indycar make your life pretty easy with both of those (figuring out where you are isn't that hard, just draw a bright pink doodle on one part and put it in carviewer), whereas ASA90 ... well, it took me at least an hour to line up the Budweiser decals on the rear quarterpanels of Blake Camphausen's #15 car. Other then that, the ASA90 templates aren't that bad, if you remember to use the wireframe instead of the mask for lining things up.

The original plan was to have TM Lights use Cup90, but I'm not sure if I have the time or energy to make a good template specifically for that. By good template, I mean something other than just replacing manufacturer decals.

Also, since I could vote for every single option, I did.

SnakePlissken wrote:I've been wanting to see a series using the IROC mod for years. I even thought about launching my own series just to make it happen. I had several other outlandish ideas about the makeup of the series too. But by the time I learned all the necessary skills and was able to put them to good use, well it'd have been forever. Plus my job makes it a virtual impossibility for me to deal with the running a series. I barely am able to complete my own paint schemes and get ratings in on time.

The EFROC was in the works using that mod but thus far hasn't materialized:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkq03PfL6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUdVch2wr1c

But this mod looks so cool on the track. I voted for the "original cup" mod because the IROC mod wasn't an option. I would gladly change my vote for the IROC mod though!

antknee wrote:CRL mentioned that he is interested in running EFROC but I'm not sure if he has the time. I'd like to see it get going again as well.

antknee wrote:CRL mentioned that he is interested in running EFROC but I'm not sure if he has the time. I'd like to see it get going again as well.

As for the mod, it seems that there is typically a lot of feedback wanting a different mod yet the standard cup mod always gets the bulk of the votes.