The NR2003 Encyclopedia

by Backmarker Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:46 pm

Updated link:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gf129guz052lr/NASCAR_Racing_2003_Season_(Public)

Includes several NASCAR mods past and present with several carsets included, and a bunch of track packs. Mods and utilities are currently unavailable but may be re-added at some point.

Should be fun and useful. Very Happy

by navycook75 Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:52 pm

Just a word of warning, prepare for at least a gigabyte or two of files on each download.

by Backmarker Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:04 pm

Looks like the site has been deleted, and the NNRacing thread is gone as well.

I know the owner was getting some complaints from painters but was ignoring him. I guess he decided it wasn't worth the trouble, or perhaps he got reported to Tumblr.

The MediaFire links are still up at the moment, and you can access the first page through the Wayback Machine, so I would get what you want while you can.

by Lucstar88 Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:21 pm

I actually enjoyed that site, since i just got NR, it's a real pain in the butt for people like me who are trying to get more stuff... Thankfully i got some stuff before it closed down..

by navycook75 Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:29 pm

http://i.4cdn.org/o/src/1397117883490.jpg

WOW WHAT A SURPRISE /sarcasm

But there is good news.

http://xxxxoggyxxxx.wix.com/nr2003e

by Backmarker Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:56 pm

Thanks. Original post updated.

by navycook75 Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:51 pm

And it's down again.

Get fucked O'Reilly.

by Mccc457 Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:29 am

You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html

by Milan655 Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:35 am

Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html

He compiled content from the community together to make it easier to download. Couldn't be arsed to sift through pages of garbage just to get a few carsets when you can find them all compiled on one file.

by RacerXero84 Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:39 am

And still.... without the permission of mod/car/track/detail creators. Violation of intellectual property. He really could've avoided all the drama with a little tact.

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:12 pm

RacerXero84 wrote:And still.... without the permission of mod/car/track/detail creators. Violation of intellectual property. He really could've avoided all the drama with a little tact.

He could of avoiding all the drama if Matt O'Riley and the other speds weren't dicknugguts.

by vbooy57 Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:40 pm

Maybe I'm wrong because I haven't painted in years but I'd be happy if people used stuff I painted and what not.

by RacerXero84 Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:42 pm

Or if he (Mr. nr2003e) didn't spurn the long standing members of this community who take personal time out of their lives to make the content he 'shared' without their permission. It is people like that who make these guys not want to even bother anymore. He placed himself above the community, and thus paid the price. Simple.

by **Ceej** Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:46 pm

And this is the point where the drama spillover stops.

by RacerXero84 Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:56 pm

Look, Simple fact of the matter is this:

1: His concept was GREAT, and a lot of people thought so.
2: When SEVERAL members (creators etc) asked him nicely (even Matt, which many would admit is astounding) to remove the direct links to their stuff (hosted on their sites that they pay to maintain), and even took time to (again, NICELY) explain why, he essentially told em to piss off. In essence, he told just about every single big name creator to take a hike, he's going to do what he wants. Hence why his WHOLE SITE was taken down, due to overwhelming DMCA complains from various people (not just Matt).
3: He continually sends either minions or alternate profiles he has to start trouble on said sites.

These actions are NOT of someone who respects the community or has its best interests in mind. Now we have someone who is doing the site CORRECTLY, and won't ignore the people who worked so hard to keep this game relevant. So if you're going to hate on Matt, might as well go all in and hate on every single mod creator(s) that filed DMCA notices against the site and him, which are numerous enough to have tumblr pull the site entirely.

by RacerXero84 Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:57 pm

Noted Ceej. I've spoken my piece anyhow.

by **Cynon** Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:25 pm

Milan655 wrote:
Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html

He compiled content from the community together to make it easier to download. Couldn't be arsed to sift through pages of garbage just to get a few carsets when you can find them all compiled on one file.

100% agree. It's one of the main reasons I don't go looking around the NR2003 community for things (with a few exceptions like NDG and Paint by Rah if I'm too lazy to make a base for myself or if I need a PSD logo) -- because there's not one place I can get everything. Seems to me that Matt O'Reilly wants people to depend on SRD for their NR2003 fix.

If anyone's going to ask how I would feel if someone took everything I made for NR2003 and threw it on one site like that... by all means, please, do it, it will help get the content out to the people who want it. That's why I make bases and the like for NR2003 -- so people can use them. Yes, it's true that I'm often very forgetful when it comes to posting things (there's a lot of Indycar bases I don't think I posted), but that's another issue.

I recently found an old RPG Maker game that was re-hosted without the permission of the original developer -- and it was the only place I could find it. There was no other place to get it. Alternate mirrors are healthy for ensuring that content survives longer for people who want it. If someone on here puts one of my bases on a different mod and puts it up on NNRacing, forgets to credit me, and it gets taken down... then it won't be because I complained! If anything, I might be one of the first in line to download it.

On the topic of RPG Maker, I once played a game that used original content (a few maps -- so definitely noticable) that I made without the developer ever having asked me. All I did was smile to myself. I remember PMing the guy who made it and told him that I was amused -- not upset. If you looked at the rest of his game, you could kinda tell he didn't make them(my crappy maps that he took looked way better than the maps he made for himself).

I feel the same way when someone makes a car for NR and either forgets to credit me (happens, no point in getting mad over that) or takes credit for something that I made that's on their car (like a number... yeah, you heard me, guy-who-"made"-the-Penske-Numbers-on-SRD). I'll just look at it and smile -- something I made for free was put to good use.

The NR2003 community isn't dealing with sensitive content that is worth any kind of money. It's all for fun. Made by people on their (hopefully) spare time intended for it to be used by other people for them to enjoy however they want to.

So if they want to create a backup of everything that's been made... what's the issue? I'm not going to pat everyone on the back for what they made for NR2003, but if I like what you've made and I remember who you are, I'm going to give you a mention so that other people can find any other awesome stuff you've made.

by Alta Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:25 am

Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html

The dude i'm almost positive had the name listed as "SRD Nationwide Year XXXX". There might be some people that go "Hey these guys made this cool mod! Let's go look see what else they got." And by your logic of stealing, Everyone who has ever downloaded anything from SRD is stealing.

It's a ploy by SRD to get more traffic by raging at people who try to compile things for a game in it's 11TH YEAR, How petty can they get really?

by **Cynon** Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:28 am

Alta wrote:
Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html
The dude i'm almost positive had the name listed as "SRD Nationwide Year XXXX". There might be some people that go "Hey these guys made this cool mod! Let's go look see what else they got." And by your logic of stealing, Everyone who has ever downloaded anything from SRD is stealing.

It's a ploy by SRD to get more traffic by raging at people who try to compile things for a game in it's 11TH YEAR, How petty can they get really?

Get this; all of the kids over at SRD are busy crying about navycook75 without being man enough to come over and say it here. It's hilarious and pathetic. Guess it struck a nerve. Laughing

by Milan655 Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:29 am

If I recall correctly, SRD near shut down a few years ago? Imagine if all those car sets had been lost...oops.

by navycook75 Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:44 am

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html
The dude i'm almost positive had the name listed as "SRD Nationwide Year XXXX". There might be some people that go "Hey these guys made this cool mod! Let's go look see what else they got." And by your logic of stealing, Everyone who has ever downloaded anything from SRD is stealing.

It's a ploy by SRD to get more traffic by raging at people who try to compile things for a game in it's 11TH YEAR, How petty can they get really?

Get this; all of the kids over at SRD are busy crying about navycook75 without being man enough to come over and say it here. It's hilarious and pathetic. Guess it struck a nerve.

The NR2003 Encyclopedia 1370071511920_zpse6c4a0ee

by Mccc457 Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:47 am

Alta wrote:
Mccc457 wrote:You guys do realize he basically stole all those files. They were uploaded without permission...

Here's a proper one: http://www.simracingdesign.com/nr2003-general-discussion/51231-prepping-up-proper-nr2003-encyclopedia-site-3.html
The dude i'm almost positive had the name listed as "SRD Nationwide Year XXXX". There might be some people that go "Hey these guys made this cool mod! Let's go look see what else they got." And by your logic of stealing, Everyone who has ever downloaded anything from SRD is stealing.

It's a ploy by SRD to get more traffic by raging at people who try to compile things for a game in it's 11TH YEAR, How petty can they get really?

I just figured "stealing" was when you post things without citing the original maker, or uploading it when the original maker says not to. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I see some aren't as touchy about their work as others.

However, I find it sad grown men can't deal with trolls as well as a Minecraft community full of teenagers can...

by RacerXero84 Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:24 am

I actually did come over here, spoke my piece, Ceej wanted it stopped, so I did. I guess I was the only one who listened...

by **Cynon** Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:45 am

RacerXero84 wrote:I actually did come over here, spoke my piece, Ceej wanted it stopped, so I did. I guess I was the only one who listened...

Nope, you just continued it over on SRD instead of saying everything here like a man, but I really shouldn't expect the SRD membership to be filled with anything less than kids* looking to cause drama because their egos aren't being stroked enough.

* Assuming it's all kids based on the attitude, but from what I know of NR2003, most of them are probably well into their 30s and 40s, which is doubly sad.

by RacerXero84 Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:49 am

Trust, I would continue to disprove your theories on generalizing the personnel at a given site, but again, I'm not going to sit here and beat the dead horse. I came to simply educate a few people who were evidently working on half a story.

Nothing more nothing less. What I say and do on SRD is essentially irrelevant on this forum. Although it is entertaining to know you went through the trouble of finding it.

by **Cynon** Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:52 am

RacerXero84 wrote:Trust, I would continue to disprove your theories on generalizing the personnel at a given site, but again, I'm not going to sit here and beat the dead horse. I came to simply educate a few people who were evidently working on half a story.

Nothing more nothing less. What I say and do on SRD is essentially irrelevant on this forum. Although it is entertaining to know you went through the trouble of finding it.

Pot calling the kettle black. I'm also registered over there so it wasn't that hard to find -- I went to write a message to someone who I know doesn't come here.

by RacerXero84 Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:59 am

Pot calling the kettle black...

Not exactly. The kicker here is I recall WAY back being around and noting your name on a lot of content. I mentally listed you as a person who was respectable in the nr2003 community. I still hold some of that respect regardless of this conversation.

My whole point on this was it isn't hard to credit people or respect the wishes of the content creator. Everyone has a different opinion, obviously, your is. To an extent, to each his own.

But hey, it is what it is, I'm not going to sully this site with more banter that essentially accomplishes nothing. I've said my piece here and on SRD.

Back to my coffee and what I was originally doing this morning. Y'all have a good one.

by **F1V1** Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:47 pm

RacerXero84 wrote:Pot calling the kettle black...

Not exactly. The kicker here is I recall WAY back being around and noting your name on a lot of content. I mentally listed you as a person who was respectable in the nr2003 community. I still hold some of that respect regardless of this conversation.

My whole point on this was it isn't hard to credit people or respect the wishes of the content creator. Everyone has a different opinion, obviously, your is. To an extent, to each his own.

But hey, it is what it is, I'm not going to sully this site with more banter that essentially accomplishes nothing. I've said my piece here and on SRD.

Back to my coffee and what I was originally doing this morning. Y'all have a good one.

Didn't you speak your "piece" yesterday? :3

Firstly these aren't even your files, so you shouldn't have any concern over where they end up. You especially shouldn't be signing up to confront users on another forum who, likewise, had nothing to do with the operation.

I've never created ANYTHING for NR2003 without providing a free download link to it. If Matt O'Reilly wants his work to remain untouched it shouldn't be posted publicly for a game that was released over a decade ago. Food for thought, Matt O'Reilly has "ripped off" every realistic NASCAR paint scheme he's ever released, simply because someone working for a NASCAR team created it first and he remade it.

by Milan655 Tue May 20, 2014 6:12 am

Incidentally, the website is still available if you need it: http://web.archive.org/web/20140410202701/http://nr2003e.tumblr.com

Available via google cache.

by RockyDennis Tue May 20, 2014 3:43 pm

It's just a game. Why do people in "The Community" take it so seriously and start forum wars like it's 2008? Someone might rightfully take pride in their mods or paint schemes or whatever, but outside of this quickly shrinking community, nobody gives a damn. Go to a NASCAR race and tell people you play NR or design stuff for it, and most people won't know what you're talking about. I know, because I did that when I was 14. (2009)
If this game were a human, it would be old enough to be in middle school this fall. Why the hell can't we just enjoy what time we have left to play it before some OS of the not so distant future renders it unplayable?
This fighting over who stole what is stupid, all the mods or anything else, according to the terms of service, belong to the owners of the game, paint schemes belong to sponsors/teams/NASCAR, and every logo used ever by anyone I'm sure was used without permission. What, you think some random dude can claim ownership of, let's say something bearing the name "NASCAR Nationwide 2013 mod?" No, NASCAR, Nationwide Insurance, and iRacing would be rightful owners, if they found that worth fighting over. (Spoiler Alert: They never will)
So what is there to fight over when this whole argument overflows with hypocricy?
It's easier and WAY more convienient to have everything on one page anyway, considering how many dead links you run across. Good lord, this is a silly argument.

by gone-sovereign Wed May 21, 2014 3:04 pm

RockyDennis wrote:It's just a game. Why do people in "The Community" take it so seriously and start forum wars like it's 2008? Someone might rightfully take pride in their mods or paint schemes or whatever, but outside of this quickly shrinking community, nobody gives a damn. Go to a NASCAR race and tell people you play NR or design stuff for it, and most people won't know what you're talking about. I know, because I did that when I was 14. (2009)
If this game were a human, it would be old enough to be in middle school this fall. Why the hell can't we just enjoy what time we have left to play it before some OS of the not so distant future renders it unplayable?
This fighting over who stole what is stupid, all the mods or anything else, according to the terms of service, belong to the owners of the game, paint schemes belong to sponsors/teams/NASCAR, and every logo used ever by anyone I'm sure was used without permission. What, you think some random dude can claim ownership of, let's say something bearing the name "NASCAR Nationwide 2013 mod?" No, NASCAR, Nationwide Insurance, and iRacing would be rightful owners, if they found that worth fighting over. (Spoiler Alert: They never will)
So what is there to fight over when this whole argument overflows with hypocricy?
It's easier and WAY more convienient to have everything on one page anyway, considering how many dead links you run across. Good lord, this is a silly argument.

I think you're a little late to the party there, Lucas.

In my opinion though, this thread should have been canned a while ago what with all the arguing that was going on...

by Backmarker Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:49 pm

Link has been updated for those who didn't already have access to it. Hopefully we're long past the point where this will cause any drama...

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