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Post by AntmanB on Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:09 pm

NASCAR looking at changes to qualifying? NASCAR is kicking around the idea of qualifying the top 38 drivers on time and cutting the number of provisionals down to four plus one for former champions. With sponsors at a premium right now, it could be catastrophic to eliminate provisionals altogether, particularly when a driver missing a race could result in a benefactor pulling its support from the team.(Fox Sports)
This sounds similar to the old provisional system last used during the 2004 season, see how it worked and some notes about it on my 2004 Provisionals page. (7-24-2012)
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Post by AntmanB on Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:28 pm

UPDATE: NASCAR's rule guaranteeing the top 35 teams in the Sprint Cup series a spot in each race may be going away in 2013. Vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said on Thursday that NASCAR is talking to teams about doing away with guaranteed starting spots in the Cup, Nationwide and Truck Series with the hope of putting more emphasis on qualifying. "People want to see it go back to where speed gets you in,'' Pemberton said from the infield at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Pemberton did not discuss specifics of the new qualifying rules, but sources close to the situation told ESPN.com one plan is to have the top 38 cars get in on speed with one past champions provisional and four provisionals for the top four drivers in points that didn't make it on speed. Under the current system in Cup, the top 35 teams are guaranteed a spot in the field regardless of whether they run a qualifying lap or not. That number is 30 for Nationwide and 25 for Trucks. The system was put in place in 2005 to assure full-time teams with big-name drivers and big sponsors did not miss the race. If the top-35 rule is eliminated, cars inside the top 35 at the end of 2012 won't be guaranteed a spot in the first five races of 2013 as has been the case in the past. Pemberton said that won't totally eliminate owners purchasing numbers for the Daytona 500, where points are used from the previous season, but the need won't be as great.(ESPN)
This sounds similar to the old provisional system last used during the 2004 season, see how it worked and some notes about it on my 2004 Provisionals page.(7-27-2012)
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Post by PYLrulz on Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:27 pm

Thank goodness. But then I'm sure there will be people whining about this too.
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Post by RyanB06 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:30 pm

There will be as soon as Junior DNQ's.
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Post by JMac525 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:01 pm

I don't believe there should be provisionals at all, but I liked this method a lot better. I would be perfectly fine with it.
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Post by PYLrulz on Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:19 pm

JMac525 wrote:I don't believe there should be provisionals at all, but I liked this method a lot better. I would be perfectly fine with it.

I somewhat disagree. If you are having a good season, and something happens to you in qualifying (motor blows, you spin out and wreck), you should be given a pass.

Top 35 get provisionals, but a set amount. Once you run out, you are screwed if something happens to ya.
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Post by JMac525 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:50 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
JMac525 wrote:I don't believe there should be provisionals at all, but I liked this method a lot better. I would be perfectly fine with it.

I somewhat disagree. If you are having a good season, and something happens to you in qualifying (motor blows, you spin out and wreck), you should be given a pass.

Top 35 get provisionals, but a set amount. Once you run out, you are screwed if something happens to ya.

I'd be okay with that too. In the Chase, I would be okay with those guys being locked in too.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:31 pm

Top 35 get in on speed, 36-42 are the highest remaining in owners points, 43rd is champions provisional or next highest in points.
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