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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:31 pm

From Jayski:

David Ragan and Cole Whitt are the leading candidates to replace Aric Almirola in JR Motorsports' #88 Nationwide team in 2012, sources said. A decision is expected early next week, around the time Almirola's move to the Sprint Cup Series and Richard Petty Motorsports' #43 Ford should be officially announced.

Looks like Ragan is not going to the 71, if he does go to Nationwide. Maybe Reutimann goes to the 71 now?

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Post by PKligBKFan on Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:05 pm

Everybody seems to forget COLE WHITT is in there. Whitt is much more talented than Ragan.
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Post by Cynon on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:23 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:Everybody seems to forget COLE WHITT is in there. Whitt is much more talented than Ragan.

Yeah, but Dale Jr. isn't known for making good driver decisions. Mark McFarland, Shane Huffman ring any bells? Only pre-Keselowski driver choice he made that was smart was putting in Robby Gordon in the car for Michigan, and Robby might have won if Dale Jr. didn't decide to spin Edwards ...

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Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:50 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:Everybody seems to forget COLE WHITT is in there. Whitt is much more talented than Ragan.

both of them would be a step up from Almorola.



yea I went there.
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Post by Cynon on Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:49 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:Everybody seems to forget COLE WHITT is in there. Whitt is much more talented than Ragan.

both of them would be a step up from Almorola.



yea I went there.

I'd take Almirola over Ragan any day, because Almirola actually can do something with a second-rate car, whereas Ragan is hopeless in a first-rate car. Cole Whitt is still a bit of an unknown, but I think it'd be a good risk for JR Motorsports to take.

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Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 pm

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I'd take Almirola over Ragan any day, because Almirola actually can do something with a second-rate car, whereas Ragan is hopeless in a first-rate car.
Almorola was blown out of the water by the #6, #2 and #33 teams and the 88 was a winning team in 2010, so he should have at least been on par with them. Not to mention Ragan has better Nationwide credentials then Almorola. Not to mention that Almorola, was outside the top-10 in nearly half the races he finished in, where as Steinhouse and Sadler were only out of the top ten in about a sixth of the race with equal equipment.


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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:51 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
Cynon wrote:
I'd take Almirola over Ragan any day, because Almirola actually can do something with a second-rate car, whereas Ragan is hopeless in a first-rate car.
Almorola was blown out of the water by the #6, #2 and #33 teams and the 88 was a winning team in 2010, so he should have at least been on par with them. Not to mention Ragan has better Nationwide credentials then Almorola. Not to mention that Almorola, was outside the top-10 in nearly half the races he finished in, where as Steinhouse and Sadler were only out of the top ten in about a sixth of the race with equal equipment.
The best equipment went to the 7 and Danica...88 was not a high priority.

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Post by bartman97 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:04 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
Cynon wrote:
I'd take Almirola over Ragan any day, because Almirola actually can do something with a second-rate car, whereas Ragan is hopeless in a first-rate car.
Almorola was blown out of the water by the #6, #2 and #33 teams and the 88 was a winning team in 2010, so he should have at least been on par with them. Not to mention Ragan has better Nationwide credentials then Almorola. Not to mention that Almorola, was outside the top-10 in nearly half the races he finished in, where as Steinhouse and Sadler were only out of the top ten in about a sixth of the race with equal equipment.

JR Motorsports aren't as good as Childress or Roush.
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Re: Ragan headed to JR Motorsports?

Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:24 pm

bartman97 wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
Cynon wrote:
I'd take Almirola over Ragan any day, because Almirola actually can do something with a second-rate car, whereas Ragan is hopeless in a first-rate car.
Almorola was blown out of the water by the #6, #2 and #33 teams and the 88 was a winning team in 2010, so he should have at least been on par with them. Not to mention Ragan has better Nationwide credentials then Almorola. Not to mention that Almorola, was outside the top-10 in nearly half the races he finished in, where as Steinhouse and Sadler were only out of the top ten in about a sixth of the race with equal equipment.

JR Motorsports aren't as good as Childress or Roush.
Are you sure, they were pretty stout in 2010.



And it's not like Almorola did much in JGR Equipment a few years ago either.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 pm

Cynon wrote:Yeah, but Dale Jr. isn't known for making good driver decisions. Mark McFarland, Shane Huffman ring any bells? Only pre-Keselowski driver choice he made that was smart was putting in Robby Gordon in the car for Michigan, and Robby might have won if Dale Jr. didn't decide to spin Edwards ...

What about Martin Truex, Jr.? Even though his Cup career has been a disappointment, Truex did win back-to-back Busch championships.

I wouldn't exactly call that a bad driver decision.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:37 am

From what I understand neither McFarland nor Huffman got let go cause of on-track performance either.
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Post by Rykia on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:39 am

Mother of Invention wrote:From what I understand neither McFarland nor Huffman got let go cause of on-track performance either.

McFarland did, I believe, but Huffman didn't.
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Post by crl on Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:10 pm

I'm quite surprised no S&P Cup effort picked up Ragan, since he's in the All-Star Race by virtue of winning at Daytona. Even with a sucky car, the team could still collect last place prize money.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:39 pm

crl wrote:I'm quite surprised no S&P Cup effort picked up Ragan, since he's in the All-Star Race by virtue of winning at Daytona. Even with a sucky car, the team could still collect last place prize money.
I think he said he'd rather be in a lower tier than S&P way back when they were originally talking about him not having a ride in 2012.

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Post by Tanrar on Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Based on what Jayski's saying, all signs are pointing to Cole Whitt to drive the 88.

If this is true: mbisonyes.jpg
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Post by Alta on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:01 pm

Ragan not getting the 88

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Post by PackerMan71 on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:41 pm

Alta wrote:Ragan not getting the 88

Thank God. Pretty Colors!
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Post by AntmanB on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:59 pm

is ragan gonna even have a ride anywhere next year?

Brinson 'gon be pissed.
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Post by RACECAR on Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:51 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
Almorola was blown out of the water by the #6, #2 and #33 teams and the 88 was a winning team in 2010, so he should have at least been on par with them.

Are you kidding me? Winning team? As I recall, only time the 88 ever won in 2010 was at Atlanta with Jamie Mcmurray. Otherwise, 2010 (as were the years before) was JGR land. You also forget that 2010 was a huge ride swap fest which included multiple drivers.

Mother of Invention wrote:Not to mention Ragan has better Nationwide credentials then Almorola. Not to mention that Almorola, was outside the top-10 in nearly half the races he finished in, where as Steinhouse and Sadler were only out of the top ten in about a sixth of the race with equal equipment.

Ragan's five years in Nationwide as opposed to Almirola's two (and leaving shortly after your team decides to replace you mid-race not once but twice at the same race) is hardly a comparison. And as stated before, Jr Motorsports has hardly been a winning team no matter who drove their cars after Keseloski left (Save that one win) so "Equal equipment" doesn't really sum up that team.

AntmanB wrote:is ragan gonna even have a ride anywhere next year?

Brinson 'gon be pissed.

Hope he doesn't.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:41 pm

Ragan's probably going to TRG. That's where he was originally going after he was denied the 43 until this happened.

EDIT: Nevermind, just learned that they aren't running.

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Post by Racerfan275 on Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:27 pm

Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

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Post by Tanrar on Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:45 am

Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:09 am

RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


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Post by JPR9192 on Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:51 am

RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

Contending.....

Lets not forget JRM doesnt have the best stuff, its kinda sad when they have a direct line to hendrick motorsports and Tuner Motorsports is just a customer of Hendrick and they ran better then them all last year including 3 wins. But I like Cole I hope he does well and this leads to bigger and better things.
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Post by RACECAR on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:39 am

JPR9192 wrote:
Lets not forget JRM doesnt have the best stuff, its kinda sad when they have a direct line to hendrick motorsports and Tuner Motorsports is just a customer of Hendrick and they ran better then them all last year including 3 wins.

You do remember how they got all three of those wins though, right? Sure, two of them involved cars that had the speed but even those had luck, too. Brad would have taken Vegas had the Tire not decided to wipeout and Edwards would have gotten the win if Fuel wasn't an issue. And of course, we all know Reed Sorenson never had a Snowball's chance in hell at winning any race and the only reason Road America went to him was due to poor officiating of NASCAR.

Also, lets not forget that Turner Motorsports is essentially Braun Racing, one of the only Nationwide regular teams that could actually keep up with Cup drivers even before they went to Hendrick.
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Post by Cynon on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:45 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.

Giving him half a season before Junior fires him and replaces him with some other failure like Steve Arpin.

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Post by JPR9192 on Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:52 am

RACECAR wrote:
JPR9192 wrote:
Lets not forget JRM doesnt have the best stuff, its kinda sad when they have a direct line to hendrick motorsports and Tuner Motorsports is just a customer of Hendrick and they ran better then them all last year including 3 wins.

You do remember how they got all three of those wins though, right? Sure, two of them involved cars that had the speed but even those had luck, too. Brad would have taken Vegas had the Tire not decided to wipeout and Edwards would have gotten the win if Fuel wasn't an issue. And of course, we all know Reed Sorenson never had a Snowball's chance in hell at winning any race and the only reason Road America went to him was due to poor officiating of NASCAR.

Also, lets not forget that Turner Motorsports is essentially Braun Racing, one of the only Nationwide regular teams that could actually keep up with Cup drivers even before they went to Hendrick.


Most of this is true but the fact that they were in postion to luck out and JRM wasnt shows who was running up front more, I can only think of a few time where i thought the JRM stuff had a good chance of winning and that was at Watkins Glen with Fellows and Road America with Fellows and maybe Daytona in july besides thoes two races they were a 10th-18th place car every race. Now them being basically being Braun didnt help them at all, they scraped all of the old braun cars which was very well known to be old and out dated and they added two new teams with the 30 and 31. I think besides keeping dollar general and great clips as sponsors and Reed and Jason as drivers and Trent Owens as Crew Chief on the 32 everything else was different. I wish Rick Hendrick would of kept his NNS team and not merged it with JRM, I havent seen anything postive come out of it.
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Post by Nextelracer on Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:25 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


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This isn't KHI, Cole's gonna get a full season.

Anyway, I'm so glad (as a Junior fan) that he decided to put Cole in the 88 instead of Ragan. Everyone is quick to label Junior as an idiot, but he could have easily plopped Ragan in the car. Unlike most N'wide owners these days, Junior will actually give up-and-coming drivers a chance, instead of putting Cup drivers in to pad stats.
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Post by Alta on Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:56 pm

Nextelracer wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


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This isn't KHI, Cole's gonna get a full season.
Kelly Bires would like to have a word with you.
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Post by Cynon on Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:58 pm

Alta wrote:
Nextelracer wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


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This isn't KHI, Cole's gonna get a full season.
Kelly Bires would like to have a word with you.

...and Mark McFarland...

...and Shane Huffman...

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Post by RACECAR on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:03 pm

Not sure Kelly Bires really counts since he's basically been a Nationwide prostitute after being let go by JTG.
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Post by Alta on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:04 pm

RACECAR wrote:Not sure Kelly Bires really counts since he's basically been a Nationwide prostitute after being let go by JTG.
He only got like 6-7 races in the #88 car and i don't think he was that badly all over the place.
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Post by PKligBKFan on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:10 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
Nextelracer wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


Twisted Evil

This isn't KHI, Cole's gonna get a full season.
Kelly Bires would like to have a word with you.

...and Mark McFarland...

...and Shane Huffman...

And Josh Wise.
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Post by RACECAR on Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:23 pm

Alta wrote:He only got like 6-7 races in the #88 car and i don't think he was that badly all over the place.

Well I mean over a few seasons. From I remember the most, he drove for KHI, Braun Racing, JGR, RAB Racing, and I think maybe had one race with Roush (unless I got them confused with another Ford team)
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Post by usmcstang on Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:38 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
Nextelracer wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
RandomClassic wrote:
Racerfan275 wrote:Sidenote:
Cole Whitt to car #88

WINNING.

giving him 10 races before Jr Fires him.


Twisted Evil

This isn't KHI, Cole's gonna get a full season.
Kelly Bires would like to have a word with you.

...and Mark McFarland...

...and Shane Huffman...

All of whom were complete garbage. I hope Whitt does well next season. We need some fresh faces in NASCAR.
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