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Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:50 am

And hamlin proves my point. good to see he's ok, that was sickening
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:22 pm

I"m crossing my fingers that Ambrose will make it...and Mark's jackman deserves a medal. Very Happy
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Post by Alpineopossum on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:28 pm

Come on Ambrose!
If he wins I'm having a backyard barby!
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:30 pm

MARCOS ****ING AMBROSE!!!!!!
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:32 pm

About time, Ambrose! Heck of a job, mate.

That crash... Shocked pale
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Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:34 pm

i cannot believe that everyone who crashed today is uninjured. i just cant. it's been a long long time since i've seen hits like today...
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Post by racingfreak1999 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:35 pm

AMBROSE WINS!!!!!!!!!
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Post by day500champ1 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:37 pm

Wildest race ending of the year.
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Post by Magus978 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:38 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:i cannot believe that everyone who crashed today is uninjured. i just cant. it's been a long long time since i've seen hits like today...

Ragan was limping as he came out of the car, might have injured his foot. Reutimann was kneeling down by his car afterwards as well, could be injured too.
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Post by Rykia on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:45 pm

OUCH. For as much as David Reuttiman hates road races, that won't help. BTW: What happened to Kahne?
Congrats to Ambrose.

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Reject of the Race: Brakes and Hard Hits.
Honorable Mentions: BK, racing through the pain. Martin Truex Jr., ran top-5 all day. Jeff Burton, 1st top-10 this season.
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Post by racingfreak1999 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:48 pm

Ragan is now out of the top 20
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Post by kensethfan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:52 pm

Driver of the Day: Marcos Ambrose. No competition for that.
Reject of the Race: I want to say Kyle Busch for being an all-around nusiance near the end...

I was listening to the race on MRN, they said Reutimann was okay, I don't know about Ragan. I'm curious as to what happened to Reutimann, though, because the MRN broadcasters said his car was doing cartwheels. I could imagine an open-wheel car doing something like that at this track, but not a stock car...
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:52 pm

and the year of the surprise winners continues.(3 in a row too!)


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Post by kensethfan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:53 pm

AntmanB wrote:and the year of the surprise winners continues.(3 in a row too!)

Ambrose was a surprise winner? I thought this was expected of him... Neutral
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:54 pm

kensethfan wrote:Driver of the Day: Marcos Ambrose. No competition for that.
Reject of the Race: I want to say Kyle Busch for being an all-around nusiance near the end...

I was listening to the race on MRN, they said Reutimann was okay, I don't know about Ragan. I'm curious as to what happened to Reutimann, though, because the MRN broadcasters said his car was doing cartwheels. I could imagine an open-wheel car doing something like that at this track, but not a stock car...
Ragan hit one of the guardrails towards Turn 2 and bounced in front of Reutimann and Reutimann hit the inside guardrail, did a cartwheel in a half, I would think, and landed on his wheels. Hopefully that's accurate.
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Post by Blake Camphausen on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:57 pm

Driver of the day: Marcos Ambrose
Reject of the race: Boris Said.

What Said did is in excusable, he hooked and turned someone on a straightaway, and could have killed both Davids.
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:58 pm

lol "He's a chump."
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Post by Magus978 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:59 pm

Boris Said wants to fight Greg Biffle. I'm sure ESPN will be glad to put that one on Friday Night Fights. I smell ratings Very Happy
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Post by RACECAR on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:01 pm

Hell YES!!! About F***** time. I've waited four years for this.

And I just found the REAL Reject of the race: Greg Biffle

Moron does all this crap to Boris Said and can't even man up in the garage after the race. Scared little B****

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Mystrsyko wrote:i cannot believe that everyone who crashed today is uninjured. i just cant. it's been a long long time since i've seen hits like today...

Ragan was limping as he came out of the car, might have injured his foot. Reutimann was kneeling down by his car afterwards as well, could be injured too.

Reutimann didn't complain of any pain, but he did show that something ripped into his firesuit. Hope nothing tried to eat him Laughing
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Post by BBoy on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:06 pm

Marcos Ambrose becomes the 15th different winner this season, and the 5th first-time winner.

Top 10 Results

1 - 9 Marcos Ambrose
2 - 2 Brad Keselowski
3 - 18 Kyle Busch
4 - 56 Martin Truex Jr.
5 - 20 Joey Logano
6 - 29 Kevin Harvick
7 - 42 Juan Pablo Montoya
8 - 43 AJ Allmendinger
9 - 31 Jeff Burton
10 - 48 Jimmie Johnson
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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:10 pm

I knew I was smart to wear my Marcos Ambrose shirt today! Very Happy Then BK finishes 2nd! F****** yes!
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Post by Alta on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:16 pm

That finish was psychotic. As much as that was all Boris Said, his post-race interview was lulz.

Great win for Marcos Ambrose! Great duel at the end with Keselowski!

Awesome race.
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:17 pm

If i had to give penalties.....

51 n-boris Said
warning for GRESSIVE DRIVING
25,000 fine for post race interview


16 - greg biffle
5 race probation
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Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Boris Said....yeah. he didn't need to race Ragan that hard. not for the spot they were in. I dont want to say he took him out on purpose, cause he did have a reasonable excuse for hooking him, but there was no need to race that hard that far back. as for biffle, eh, they can do whatever they want about it. they're adults, they can handle it Rolling Eyes
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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:19 pm

AntmanB wrote:If i had to give penalties.....

51 n-boris Said
warning for GRESSIVE DRIVING
25,000 fine for post race interview


16 - greg biffle
5 race probation



Oh my gosh... You're last 2 posts show why you don't run any series because no driver could afford to race in your series.. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:23 pm

The only thing is that Boris doesn't run on a normal basis, so its going to be awhile before we see a fallout or anything of that nature.
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:25 pm

well i'm being consistent - something nascar's not.
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Post by RACECAR on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:25 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:Boris Said....yeah. he didn't need to race Ragan that hard. not for the spot they were in. I dont want to say he took him out on purpose, cause he did have a reasonable excuse for hooking him, but there was no need to race that hard that far back.

Boris didn't have much room and its not like he could slow down to avoid that wall as there was someone behind him too and he probably would've been the one that got hooked. If anything, everyone was aggressive on that last lap so its not like their wouldn't have been a wreck.

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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:26 pm

AntmanB wrote:well i'm being consistent - something nascar's not.



Yeah, but you're being consistent with terrible calls.
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Post by MPatterson1724 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:39 pm

bleh okay race the final two laps were good just hate to see crashes like that watkins glen really needs to work on improving their walls
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:41 pm

i see your point. i'll change it to a warning and probation for the next race he's in.
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Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:41 pm

RACECAR wrote:Boris didn't have much room and its not like he could slow down to avoid that wall as there was someone behind him too and he probably would've been the one that got hooked. If anything, everyone was aggressive on that last lap so its not like their wouldn't have been a wreck.

watching the replay again, it doesn't look like anyone is immediately behind him. the 78 was close, but to the inside, so backing off was an option, although it would have put Said in a bad spot going through the esses

but i do agree, it was aggressive racing all around that caused that
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Post by GamerAzuzu on Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:20 pm

Damn the ONE TIME I sleep in....
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Post by Baynefan21 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:05 pm

That was seriously a hard hit. I think Boris needs to lose his license. True, he doesn't race in NASCAR that often, BUT HE'S A TALENTED ROAD RACER!

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Post by BBoy on Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:28 pm

Baynefan21 wrote:That was seriously a hard hit. I think Boris needs to lose his license. True, he doesn't race in NASCAR that often, BUT HE'S A TALENTED ROAD RACER!

Way to contradict yourself. Rolling Eyes
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Post by navycook75 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:03 pm

Why did it have to be a rainout? I missed the damn thing. F***ing work.....
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Post by Nextelracer on Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:19 pm

There are some very logically challenged opinions in this thread, I do believe. Laughing

AntmanB wrote:If i had to give penalties.....

51 n-boris Said
warning for GRESSIVE DRIVING
25,000 fine for post race interview


16 - greg biffle
5 race probation

Huh what???!!! I hope you never get a job in NASCAR. Boris made a mistake; It wasn't even a bad one, because that crash was at the fault of both Ragan and Boris. Also, nothing Boris said was worthy of a fine (but then again, I don't believe in fining drivers for anything they say in interviews).

MPatterson1724 wrote:bleh okay race the final two laps were good just hate to see crashes like that watkins glen really needs to work on improving their walls

I'm going to take your quote and expand on some points I heard at other places, even though I believe (and hope) that you are only referring to the opening that Reutimann hit. Some fans were calling for the immediate removal of all guard rails and installation of SAFER barriers around the whole track. Well, that's great and all but...that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. SAFER barriers were specially designed for oval-racing and are tuned to take hits of upwards of 200 mph. Guard rails give...a lot, something that's MUCH better for road racing because speeds don't typically exceed 140 mph for sustained periods.

That last crash was a weird one. Sure, Reutimann had a wild spectacular flip and whatnot, but the one who really, really took the hardest hit in that crash was Ragan. He went flat broadside into the guard rail on the driver side. That is the kind of crash that used to kill people. Ragan is damn lucky that he hit a guard rail that moved a little bit instead of a concrete wall, or even a SAFER barrier. But, I'm not implying that Reutimann didn't have a bad crash; They were both really hard and had to hurt. Surprised

Baynefan21 wrote:That was seriously a hard hit. I think Boris needs to lose his license. True, he doesn't race in NASCAR that often, BUT HE'S A TALENTED ROAD RACER!

Yes, lets take away NASCAR licenses for every driver in history that has caused a crash. Hello zero-car-fields.
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Post by navycook75 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:31 pm

I went and watched the finish on youtube. I lol'd at "you are now a winner in the NEXTEL cup series"

Sucks to see Reutimann have a crash like that....ouch.
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Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:59 pm

i have to agree with Nextelracer on the guard rail vs SAFER issue. i'm starting to get really tired of the "SAFER is a cure all" attitude i'm seeing more and more often. in the situations today, the SAFER would not have performed any better than the guard rails already in place. the severity of the crash at the end was a product of the wall angles and proximity, not the "crushability" of the walls in question
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:22 pm

It's not necessarily the tracks fault, Reutimann and Ragan just happened to hit openings and slanted parts of the guardrails. You can't close off the entire track.
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Post by crl on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:06 pm

The big last lap crash (since there were two) knocked pieces off of the guardrail.

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Post by leon13 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:57 pm

the walls at the glen are Softer walls, no need for SAFER barriers. they already GIVE. They need to look into these damn jet outs. NO NO NO need for them, they are very dangerous. all the work Pocono put in and they still have Jet outs. Same with the Glen. these Jet outs need to go! turn one needs sand or something before the wall. I under stand the idea of pavment letting cars keep going and thats a good idea to have most of that paved. but in the event that something like the 11 cars happens they can slow down before the wall. more tires maybe? they had 2 rows. up it to like 10 rows! Tremendous hits Hamlin and Kurt took today. The glen needs as serious update or lose the race before something really bad happensm

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Post by JMac525 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:19 am

Atta boy Ambrose. Good to see him finally win one of these.

I'm thinking the bunch who worked on Hamlin's brakes deserve Rejects of the Race.
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Post by f1fan12 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:33 am

BBoy wrote:
Baynefan21 wrote:That was seriously a hard hit. I think Boris needs to lose his license. True, he doesn't race in NASCAR that often, BUT HE'S A TALENTED ROAD RACER!

Way to contradict yourself. Rolling Eyes

Wow, we haven't seen this before.
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Post by F1V1 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:54 am

Apparently I'm watching different replays from everyone else because from what I saw David Ragan pulled a reckless move and cut across Boris Said's nose and could have potentially hurt himself as well as David Reutimann. Ragan's a complete toolshed, and this incident further proves that. That was completely boneheaded on his part and it really shows why he doesn't deserve his NASCAR license. Boris didn't do anything wrong. And way to puss out Biffle, that was just plain ridiculous. If you're going to cry and complain like a little 2 year old over an incident you started, at least face the guy and don't run like Kenseth would.
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Post by bartman97 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:01 am

People going for the one spot never works, that was a horiffic wreck though.
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Re: Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips at The Glen - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Vincent Giacalone on Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am

Anyone else find it weird that they didn't throw a caution for Reutimann's ginormous wild flip, but they did for Stewart lightly spinning? Not saying ITZ A CONZPIRACEE, but it is bad officiating.
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Post by MPatterson1724 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:19 pm

tbh they probably didnt throw it because of stewart spinning nascar always delays whenever they throw the caution and it was just a coincidence i think
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Post by Chives2112 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:29 pm

Maybe they were waiting to see if anything else would happen, and Stewart just happened to be in an incident that led to them throwing the caution.
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Post by PKligBKFan on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:21 pm

The only thing I can think of is, when David & David crashed there were like 4 cars behind and got through, Tony Stewart was in front of half the field.
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