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Post by BBoy on Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:53 am

Three points. Two drivers. One championship.

The championship has come down to 2 contenders, Carl Edwards and Tony Stewart. The points are so tight, only 1 or 2 positions could be the difference of being champion or being runner-up. If this goes to a tiebreaker, Tony Stewart would be champion. Who will be the one that puts Jimmie Johnson's 5 year reign to an end? We will see this Sunday!

Go or Go Homers

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Post by bartman97 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:15 am

I don't like Carl nor Stewart, because they have done some stupid things, but I'd rather Stewart than Edwards because at least Stewart didn't flat out make someone hit the wall while upside down on purpose.
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Post by day500champ1 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:57 am

I don't really care which one wins it. Although I would like Edwards over Stewart 'cause it would be a first time champion.

What I'm more interested in is can Kasey do what Carl did last year and go back to back.
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Post by PYLrulz on Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:53 pm

Jimmie will engage in Hax and win the title!

Honestly, I'd rather see Stewart win. Both drivers are a-holes, but Edwards is the bigger one.
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Post by Alta on Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:38 pm

I want Stewart to win. But have a feeling Edwards will come out the victor.
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:00 pm

THE SEMI-LEGEND. THE RUNNER-UP ONE YEAR. AND...UM...NOT THE ROOKIE. TWO CARS. ONE CHAMPION!!!!![/pixar]

In all seriousness, I think it's about time Carl got the Cup. Go 99. Smile
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Post by Rykia on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:39 pm

day500champ1 wrote:I don't really care which one wins it. Although I would like Edwards over Stewart 'cause it would be a first time champion.

What I'm more interested in is can Kasey do what Carl did last year and go back to back.

Kahne can win the championship if he finished 25 points or more ahead of Carl, and 23 ahead of Tony.

I calculated, and if Kahne was in the chase, he would be -25 points from Edwards, and -22 from Stewart, being third in points.

Kahne only has to tie Edwards, but has to beat Stewart, due to tiebreakers.

Of course, Kahne can't actually win the championship. Razz
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:16 pm

BTW, I forgot to point something out.

Edwards has only one victory on the year. The same as Kenseth in '03, ironically. So if he wins he'll stick it to NASCAR beyond belief because they've been all ZOMG CONSISTENTCY IZ CRAP NAO U ALL HAZ TO WIN ALOT WINNIN IZ ALL THAT MATTERZ WIN WIN WIN LOLOLOLOLMONEYLOLOLSPORTZLOLOLOL and shoving that crap mindset down the throats of literally everyone connected to the sport since maybe 2007. So go, Carl. Stick it to them.
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Post by AntmanB on Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:24 pm

kenseth and edwards won the same race, too. (vegas)

That's scary.
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Post by Chives2112 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:53 pm

I don't necessarily care who wins. Edwards might still be an ass in my books, but he's a good driver, and Stewart is also a bit of an ass, but he's also a good driver. So it's a toss-up.
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Post by AntmanB on Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:58 pm

Lally out of #71 ride; Bliss in Andy Lally has parted company with the TRG Motorsports NASCAR Sprint Cup Series team, with just one race remaining in the 2012 season. Lally was unavailable for comment today, but team owner Kevin Buckler confirmed the move, saying that veteran Mike Bliss will be in the #71 Ford this weekend at Homestead Miami Speedway. "Mikes a great qualifier, and we need to have a good run this weekend," said Buckler. "I'm not sure right now whether we will be able to run the entire race, but we're about 3/4 of the way there (on sponsorship)." Buckler declined to speak specifically on reasons for the driver change, saying, "Let's jut say we're having some internal issues with who's driving the car this weekend, and leave it at that. We're working around some issues with Andy, but that's really all I want to say about it."
Lally said via Twitter this morning, "Had a hard decision to make this morning, but there are just some things you need to do on principle. I'll keep you updated on things to come."
Lally is currently 33rd in Sprint Cup Series championship points after failing to qualify last weekend at Phoenix International Raceway. He has run unopposed for 2011 Sprint Cup Rookie of the Year honors, and will secure that title despite his apparent dismissal. The #71 TRG Motorsports Ford recently dropped out of the Top-35 in owners points, and trails the #38 Front Row Motorsports team by 28 points in the battle for the final guaranteed starting spot in the first five races of next season.(Sirius Speedway)(11-16-2011)

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Post by AntmanB on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:01 pm

Also there's a bunch of Lasts.....................

Mark Martins final Reular Season Nascar race (for now) and last with Hendrick
Clint BOwyers Last Race at RCR
Red Bull Racing's Final Race
David Ragan's Final Race at Roush (Thank God)
Reutimann's Final Race With MWR


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Post by GamerAzuzu on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:03 pm

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR ANDY LALLY EVERYONE!
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Post by Alta on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:13 pm

That's what happens when Cuppies run in Nationwide.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:14 pm

So for the second straight year, the Rookie of the Year gets fired before the season's over.
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Post by BBoy on Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:57 pm

With Mike Bliss in the #71, TJ Bell will take over the #32.
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Post by whopperboy59 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:41 am

COME ON CARL! U can Do it. (Carl is the man...and also my fav driver)
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Post by Tanrar on Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:04 am

One more thing to consider is that if Tony Stewart wins the title, it will be the first time in 19 YEARS that an owner-driver has won the title. Last person to do that was Alan Kulwicki all the way back in 1992.
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Post by PYLrulz on Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:43 am

RandomClassic wrote:One more thing to consider is that if Tony Stewart wins the title, it will be the first time in 19 YEARS that an owner-driver has won the title. Last person to do that was Alan Kulwicki all the way back in 1992.

But unlike Kulwicki, I belive Stewart only owns part of his team
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Post by Nextelracer on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:35 am

AntmanB wrote:kenseth and edwards won the same race, too. (vegas)

That's scary.

You know what else is scary?

Both drivers drive for Roush.
Oh, and 17 x 5.82352941 = 99!!11!1
Also, in 2003 and in 2011, the Pepsi 400/Coke Zero 400 was won by a Roush driver, both whom got their first winz!!1!1!11!!!

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
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Post by PKligBKFan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:39 am

I really don't like either but I'm cheering for Stewart due to the fact he actually deserves the championship based on his Chase run with an exception of Dover.
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:16 am

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Post by Rykia on Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:44 am

Nascarboy426 wrote:

Laughing Saw this on AARO. This is great.
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Post by pennst24 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:18 pm

I really don't want to hear the owner/driver crap if Stewart wins the title. Alan Kulwicki never got his equipment from Rick Hendrick. kthnx.
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:29 pm

pennst24 wrote:I really don't want to hear the owner/driver crap if Stewart wins the title. Alan Kulwicki never got his equipment from Rick Hendrick. kthnx.

Which is why Stewart specifically said that even if he did win the Cup it wouldn't be near equal to what the Underbird did.
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Post by AntmanB on Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:08 pm

That Jimmie post by nascarboy might be post of the year.
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Post by AntmanB on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:04 pm

This Race is Definitely living up to The Hype.
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Post by conrail1990 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:17 pm

Grubb is either a genius or an idiot.
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Post by Cynon on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:18 pm

Is it just me or is ESPN cheering Stewart on?

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Post by Chives2112 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:22 pm

This is intense.
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Post by Alta on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:26 pm

Cynon wrote:Is it just me or is ESPN cheering Stewart on?
Stewart's been going insane on the restarts, I don't blame them lol.
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Post by conrail1990 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:31 pm

Chives2112 wrote:This is intense.
This X 10 Million
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Post by BBoy on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:11 pm

Ladies and gentleman, TONY STEWART is your 2011 Sprint Cup Series Champion! The championship went to a tiebreaker, and with his 5 wins this season, Stewart won it!
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Post by conrail1990 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:11 pm

That was an awsome race!
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Post by Cynon on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:14 pm

Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:Is it just me or is ESPN cheering Stewart on?
Stewart's been going insane on the restarts, I don't blame them lol.

The amount of bias from them was about the same you get from watching a British F1 broadcast, but apparently I'm the only one that noticed that...

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Post by navycook75 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:17 pm

Tony wins the tiebreaker by winning half the chase races, if you looked at it during the "Regular Season" it would look like he wouldn't of stood a chance.
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Post by Alta on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:18 pm

Awesome race, great fight for the champion in the end. Hoping this starts a trend of Jimmie not winning it all, Since that was the most memorable fight since 2004 in Cup. 2011 one of the better season in the past couple years, Hope 2012 will bring more fun.
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Post by Alpineopossum on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:24 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:Is it just me or is ESPN cheering Stewart on?
Stewart's been going insane on the restarts, I don't blame them lol.

The amount of bias from them was about the same you get from watching a British F1 broadcast, but apparently I'm the only one that noticed that...
I noticed it to.
Stewart really deserved it. It pains me to admit it as an Edwards fan, but Tony ran a great race.
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Post by Chives2112 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:27 pm

Great race. Great for Tony! If I remember correctly, he's won under 3 different point systems?
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Post by Cynon on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:29 pm

Chives2112 wrote:Great race. Great for Tony! If I remember correctly, he's won under 3 different point systems?

Two 10 race seasons and one 36 race season. Technically, correct.

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Post by navycook75 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:31 pm

Chives2112 wrote:Great race. Great for Tony! If I remember correctly, he's won under 3 different point systems?
well techically two...
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Post by Chives2112 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 pm

navycook75 wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Great race. Great for Tony! If I remember correctly, he's won under 3 different point systems?
well techically two...
There's the old point system, the Chase, and the new point system. But the old point system and the Chase from 2005 can be considered 1 system, so I guess it's however you look at it.
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Post by whopperboy59 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:41 pm

Congrats Tony Stewart. Great Job Carl, I kno you gave it all you had. We'll get em next year Carl.
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Post by Rykia on Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Great race! My vote for best race of the season. That was exciting. I was rooting for Tony, but that was awesome! Loved it.

Tony Stewart won the same amount of races this year than he did when he won the 2005 championship. Difference? One of them was in the chase in '05. All of them were in the chase this year.

First tie EVER in points for the championship.
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Post by Racerfan275 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:48 pm

Finally, somebody stops Jimmie.
Congrats Tony

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Post by AntmanB on Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:48 pm

98 Days Until the Daytona 500! Razz
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Re: Ford 400 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by AntmanB on Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:40 am

2011 Sprint Cup Driver Points Standings [not the Chase]:
[after Homestead, race 36 of 36]:
using the CURRENT points system, but NOT the Chase system, just points.
rank, car#, driver, points, behind
1) #99-Carl Edwards (x) [1 win], 1278
2) #29-Kevin Harvick (x)[4 wins], 1200, -78
3) #14-Tony Stewart (x)[5 wins], 1191, -87
4) #48-Jimmie Johnson (x)[2 wins], 1187, -91
5) #17-Matt Kenseth (x)[3 wins], 1183, -95
6) #24-Jeff Gordon (x)[3 wins], 1150, -128
7) #18-Kyle Busch (x)[4 wins], 1124, -154
Cool #22-Kurt Busch (x)[2 wins], 1115, -163
9) #39-Ryan Newman (x)[1 win], 1103, -175
10) #2-Brad Keselowski (x)[3 wins], 1079, -199
11) #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr.(x), 1071, -207
12) #33-Clint Bowyer [1 win], 1047, -231
13) #4-Kasey Kahne [1 win], 1041, -237
14) #11-Denny Hamlin (x)[1 win], 1028, -250
15) #43-A.J. Allmendinger, 1013, -265
(x) = chase driver
Do NOT have the standings using the old points system used from 1975-2010
Caculated it a few times and saw no major differences in the standings
Also, no plans to add in all the drivers who didn't get drivers pts in any of the others series
(11-20-2011)
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Post by Ceej on Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:50 am

How many times are we going to see the same damn "IF WE DIDNT HAVE TEH CHASE THIS IS HOW TEH POINTZ WOULD LOOK!!!!" posts?
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Re: Ford 400 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by crl on Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:25 am

Cynon wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Great race. Great for Tony! If I remember correctly, he's won under 3 different point systems?

Two 10 race seasons and one 36 race season. Technically, correct.

Yeah, but in 2005, he was the dominant driver from early Summer on. I don't think he lost the point lead once after he got it after winning Daytona in July.
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Post by day500champ1 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:40 am

Well as much as I wanted Edwards to win, I happy Smoke won it. Why? He EARNED it. He had to win the race and he did just that.

I'm also happy because Jimmie finished 6th in the final standings his first EVER finish outside the top 5 in points.

And as far as the old points system stuff, here is my response and I think it's fitting.

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