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Post by AntmanB on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:20 pm

The Nationwide Series will decide a Champion.................Sort of.

All Ricky Stenhouse jr has to do is not wreck or Not Blow Up in the 1st 10 Laps and he Wins The CHampionship.

Oh and Blake Koch and TIMMY HILL. will battle for rookie of the year

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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Vincent Giacalone on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:43 pm

THE D**KMOBILES ARE BACK. Razz
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Alta on Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:10 am

Having a terrible driver like Timmy Hill in all caps over an awesome driver like Blake Koch.

Son i am disappoint.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:25 am

Alta wrote:Having a terrible driver like Timmy Hill in all caps over an awesome driver like Blake Koch.

Son i am disappoint.

Timmy Hill > Blake Koch

Timmy has gone from Legends to Nationwide in two years, has run for a team that's had to use 3 S&P teams to support itself and is still has a chance to beat Blake Koch, who has had a slightly better team, a teammate in the top-10 in points, and more total stock car experience. I rest my case.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Alta on Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:32 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
Alta wrote:Having a terrible driver like Timmy Hill in all caps over an awesome driver like Blake Koch.

Son i am disappoint.

Timmy Hill > Blake Koch

Timmy has gone from Legends to Nationwide in two years, has run for a team that's had to use 3 S&P teams to support itself and is still has a chance to beat Blake Koch, who has had a slightly better team, a teammate in the top-10 in points, and more total stock car experience. I rest my case.

Implying Hill didn't get that ride by buying the seat.
Implying Hill is not the slowest back-marker out there with just a few exceptions.
Implying Reed Sorenson got into the top 10 in points with the #82 ride.
Implying Koch hasn't picked it up as of late.
Implying Koch didn't miss two races at the beginning of the year.

Your stupidity continues to amaze me Pretzel.

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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Chives2112 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:16 am

I don't really care who wins Rookie of the Year. They both seem like nice guys.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Nextelracer on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:55 am

If you really think about it, Timmy Hill hasn't done too badly. He doesn't wreck the cars, unlike Koch, so that's a plus.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:30 am

Implying Koch didn't miss two races at the beginning of the year.

Hill also missed a race at the beginning of the season. so Koch only has a one race advantage over Timmy.

Implying Hill is not the slowest back-marker out there with just a few exceptions.

I can think of at least 7 1/20 teams, that are slower or at the same pace as Timmy Hill. (Eric McClure, Go Green Racing, R3 Motorsports, Jimmy Means Racing, Derrike Cope. Curtis Key's team, Morgan Shepherd, and ML motorsports (When they dont have David Stremme in the car) ) are all slower or on pace with the 15

Implying Hill didn't get that ride by buying the seat.

Depends if you consider nepotism and ride buying the same thing.

Implying Reed Sorenson got into the top 10 in points with the #82 ride.

yeah ya got me there. Sad

Implying Koch hasn't picked it up as of late.

Not a fair comparison, since Hill has been having mechanical woes the last couple of months. For all we know he could be picking up the pace too.


Your stupidity continues to amaze me Pretzel.

heh, we all have our moments, mine just happen more often then not. silent
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by racingfreak1999 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:36 pm

Not to make this conversation pointless but Ryan Truex is actually leading Rookie of the Year standings by 3 points over both Hill and Koch.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by AntmanB on Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:15 pm

racingfreak1999 wrote:Not to make this conversation pointless but Ryan Truex is actually leading Rookie of the Year standings by 3 points over both Hill and Koch.

he's not running homestead
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Alta on Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:43 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
I can think of at least 7 1/20 teams, that are slower or at the same pace as Timmy Hill. (Eric McClure, Go Green Racing, R3 Motorsports, Jimmy Means Racing, Derrike Cope. Curtis Key's team, Morgan Shepherd, and ML motorsports (When they dont have David Stremme in the car) ) are all slower or on pace with the 15
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I'll give you all but Curtis Key as all but i think one or two cars of that 4 car armada parks, Not sure if Means car Start-n-parks or not.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by f1fan12 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:50 pm

I just find it sad that two drivers that haven't started the full season are running for ROTY. So much for a developmental series Rolling Eyes
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:35 pm

f1fan12 wrote:I just find it sad that two drivers that haven't started the full season are running for ROTY. So much for a developmental series Rolling Eyes
I also find it sad when same goes for the cup guys too.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:38 pm

Alta wrote:
I'll give you all but Curtis Key as all but i think one or two cars of that 4 car armada parks, Not sure if Means car Start-n-parks or not.


All those teams should be full time (Although most have had teammates, who Start and parked, they've all been full time and running every race)
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Rykia on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:31 pm

AntmanB wrote:
racingfreak1999 wrote:Not to make this conversation pointless but Ryan Truex is actually leading Rookie of the Year standings by 3 points over both Hill and Koch.

he's not running homestead

It doesn't matter. It's based off of your 16 or 17 best finishes of the season.

Therefore, the amount of races they have competed in has no revelance in this argument what-so-ever.

And by the way, Koch is with a team that has run full time for the last five years in the NNS. Hill runs for a team that has run one full year in the last seven or more. And that wasn't even technically Rick Ware Racing, it was Stanton Barrett's team.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by f1fan12 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:45 pm

Not my point ^ My point is that it is sad that the ROTY doesn't run the full season
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by PKligBKFan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:42 am

f1fan12 wrote:I just find it sad that two drivers that haven't started the full season are running for ROTY. So much for a developmental series Rolling Eyes

Timmy Hill could win ROTY and the only reason he missed the first race was because he wasn't even 18 yet....
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Chives2112 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:59 am

It actually says something to win an award and not race the whole season.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by flyingturns89 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:26 pm

Technically Ryan Truex has a very good shot of winning ROTY. Currently, Truex has a three point lead over Hill and Koch, which with the minimum points scored for the highest finishing rookie being 10, would mean Truex would finish third since he is not entered. However, since Rookie Points run a driver's best sixteen finishes, certain positions in the field would make Hill and Koch not score points. Hill must finish higher than 23rd to score points, but that could necessarily knock out a lower scoring race, because it goes off best finishes, not most points. Koch must finish higher than 25th to score, but like Hill, could still bump a higher scoring run.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Alta on Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:30 pm

Koch has finished inside the top 20 in the last 3 races.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by PKligBKFan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:31 pm

TJ Duke also finished 23rd in Phoenix -- 9 laps down. Didn't take much to finish well there.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by BBoy on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:31 pm

Starting Lineup

1 - 22 Brad Keselowski
2 - 2 Elliott Sadler
3 - 60 Carl Edwards
4 - 6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (Only needs to finish 37th or better to clinch the title)
5 - 31 Justin Allgaier
6 - 33 Clint Bowyer
7 - 18 Denny Hamlin
8 - 16 Trevor Bayne
9 - 20 Joey Logano
10 - 88 Aric Almirola
11 - 11 Brian Scott
12 - 7 Danica Patrick
13 - 12 Sam Hornish Jr.
14 - 38 Jason Leffler
15 - 62 Michael Annett
16 - 09 Kenny Wallace
17 - 19 Mike Bliss
18 - 81 Blake Koch
19 - 32 James Buescher
20 - 04 Casey Roderick
21 - 70 David Stremme
22 - 97 Joe Nemechek
23 - 82 Reed Sorenson
24 - 67 Andrew Ranger
25 - 47 Josh Wise
26 - 42 Scott Speed
27 - 66 Steve Wallace
28 - 71 Matt Carter
29 - 51 Jeremy Clements
30 - 03 Scott Riggs
31 - 01 Mike Wallace
32 - 41 Stanton Barrett
33 - 15 Timmy Hill
34 - 14 Eric McClure
35 - 30 Nelson Piquet Jr.
36 - 87 Kevin Conway
37 - 23 Robert Richardson Jr.
38 - 39 Fain Skinner
39 - 89 Morgan Shepherd
40 - 40 TJ Duke
41 - 52 Kevin Lepage
42 - 28 Derrike Cope
43 - 46 Chase Miller

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44 - Jeff Green
72 - Jake Crum
50 - TJ Bell
49 - Mark Green
13 - Jennifer Jo Cobb
75 - Johnny Chapman
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:52 pm

Morgan Shepard/Fain Skinner crash in turn 3 on the second lap.
Good for Stenhouse I guess.
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Post by BBoy on Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:55 pm

Shepherd blew up, and Skinner got hooked into the wall by McClure. Took sooner than expected for Stenhouse to clinch this championship.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by BBoy on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:23 pm

That closes the book on the 2011 Nationwide Series season. Brad Keselowski wins the race, and Ricky Stenhouse Jr. is your champion!
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by PKligBKFan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:26 pm

What a race! Oh and btw, Timmy Hill is the 2011 ROTY. Very Happy
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Alta on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:38 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:What a race! Oh and btw, Timmy Hill is the 2011 ROTY. Very Happy
Off of voting.

What a garbage series when Hill beats a guy that beat him most of the year and another guy who scored near his point value in half the races.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:40 pm

Alta wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:What a race! Oh and btw, Timmy Hill is the 2011 ROTY. Very Happy
Off of voting.

What a garbage series when Hill beats a guy that beat him most of the year and another guy who scored near his point value in half the races.

THIS.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by PKligBKFan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:44 pm

I understand Truex should have won it, but I'm a Hill fan so I'm obviously going to be happy. The way they determine the ROTY champ is pretty stupid.

Honestly, a lot of you guys on the forum just constantly complain about the sport. Either figure out a way to do something about it or quit complaining. Or stop watching all together.
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Post by Rykia on Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:20 pm

I lol'ed at Marty Reid constantly referring to Kevin Conway as "Mike Conway"

Decent race for Homestead.
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Post by racingfreak1999 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:26 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote:I lol'ed at Marty Reid constantly referring to Kevin Conway as "Mike Conway"

Decent race for Homestead.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that.
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Re: Ford 300 - Nationwide Series

Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:51 pm

I was gonna delete this Ike Razz


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Post by Rykia on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:04 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:
Alta wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote:What a race! Oh and btw, Timmy Hill is the 2011 ROTY. Very Happy
Off of voting.

What a garbage series when Hill beats a guy that beat him most of the year and another guy who scored near his point value in half the races.

THIS.


Actually those two were even all year.

**PARADOX ALERT**
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Post by pennst24 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:07 pm

Whaaaaa, Timmy Hill won ROTY, wahhhhhhhh.

I hate Timmeh too, but stop whining, both drivers suck.
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:10 pm

I realized that Ike, and I was gonna delete, but you had to post faster. Razz
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Post by Rykia on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:12 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:I realized that Ike, and I was gonna delete, but you had to post faster. Razz

Very Happy Yep. That's me! I'm surprised I know what a paradox is acutally...
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Post by Vincent Giacalone on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:22 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote:I lol'ed at Marty Reid constantly referring to Kevin Conway as "Mike Conway"

That.
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Post by crl on Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:52 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I understand Truex should have won it, but I'm a Hill fan so I'm obviously going to be happy. The way they determine the ROTY champ is pretty stupid.

Honestly, a lot of you guys on the forum just constantly complain about the sport. Either figure out a way to do something about it or quit complaining. Or stop watching all together.

How would you suggest that? NASCAR doesn't care about what we say, no matter how much sense it makes.

pennst24 wrote:Whaaaaa, Timmy Hill won ROTY, wahhhhhhhh.

I hate Timmeh too, but stop whining, both drivers suck.

This.
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Post by Tanrar on Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:41 am

I'll be honest here, Timmy Hill has done NOTHING to impress me. Neither has Blake Koch. They've both been "Meh" all year. I hope that they don't get rushed up to Cup ASAP, and take their time developing. But even if they develop, I won't be surprised if Hill or Koch is stuck with TRG or worse if they go to Cup.
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Post by bartman97 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:15 am

Both suck, nor in best equipment either. If this is the talentpool in NASCAR then it's really damn low.
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Post by Cynon on Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:39 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I understand Truex should have won it, but I'm a Hill fan so I'm obviously going to be happy. The way they determine the ROTY champ is pretty stupid.

Honestly, a lot of you guys on the forum just constantly complain about the sport. Either figure out a way to do something about it or quit complaining. Or stop watching all together.
At least the motivation for your second sentence is now perfectly clear.

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Post by AntmanB on Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:48 pm

This Race is Definitely living up to The Hype.
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