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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:30 am

To stop us from using the RDT thread to talk about BTCC and stuff like that, I decided to make a general touring car thread that we can use when BTCC/WTCC/DTM etc is on and we want to talk about it. So I'll start...



Sam Tordoff just took his first win in the BTCC series at Snetteron in a 1-2 finish for MG, so I'm super happy. Gonna miss race 2 and 3 though since I'm going out, which kinda sucks but it's whatever Razz

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Post by Milan655 Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:50 am

Seeing as it's related, Dan Cammish continues to make the opposition look silly in the FFord. 16 wins, 18 poles, 12 fastest laps and a 150 point lead all from just 16 races (plus two more races later today). Proves how irrelevant FFord has become...
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:14 pm

BIG FLIP FOR PLATO O_O

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:37 pm

Jason Plato and Matt Neal are the gayest drivers ever. /thread
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:50 pm

I wish Turkington didn't get turned by Shedden, but never the less a sensational race!!! Can't wait for Knockhill next.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:33 pm


Crappy view of Plato's crash, but its better than nothing

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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Damn, I missed all the action at today's BTCC. I went to see the Classic Touring Car Racing Club's festival at what will probably be Mallory Park's last car event. It was a brilliant to watch Neil Bray's standard MK1 Fiesta beating the Rover Vitesse's in the wet and even getting second in a race against Sierra Cosworth's and BMW M3's. I'll post a video of the highlights soon, I believe it was shown live on Motors TV today though.
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Post by BWard Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:18 am

Penalties after Snetterton which I don't completely agree with, from the BTCC website:

-Andrew Jordan received two penalty points for an incident relating to driving standards in race two.

-Gordon Shedden received three penalty points and a £500 fine for an incident relating to driving standards in race three.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:26 am

BWardboy88 wrote:-Andrew Jordan received two penalty points for an incident relating to driving standards in race two.

 I'm assuming this is to do with the contact with Turkington, which is utter bull. Much as I like Colin, the head-on shot clearly showed him coming across on Jordan.

Anyway, who's ready for a good laugh?
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Post by BWard Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:18 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:-Andrew Jordan received two penalty points for an incident relating to driving standards in race two.

 I'm assuming this is to do with the contact with Turkington, which is utter bull. Much as I like Colin, the head-on shot clearly showed him coming across on Jordan.

Yes it was. Now this puts Andrew Jordan on 5 penalty points, which is something I hate to see because he is quite a clean driver. He had 3 penalty points added already from Race 3 at Oulton Park, in which ironically he won as well. I think the officials just don't like seeing him win when it really is just called 'rubbins racin', because thats what the BTCC is supposed to be all about.
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Post by BWard Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:32 pm

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109192

Just to add insult to penalties for Andrew Jordan.
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Post by BWard Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:48 am

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:54 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
 Hell yeah Paul O'Neill! Very Happy
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:00 pm

[quote="BWardboy88"]http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.[/quote
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favorite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
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Post by BWard Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:07 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favourite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
I will admit, they are both aggressive drivers, but Plato is beyond aggressive, he's a reckless driver and I know he's done it a lot before.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:46 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favourite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
I will admit, they are both aggressive drivers, but Plato is beyond aggressive, he's a reckless driver and I know he's done it a lot before.
 Matt Neal is worse. Not only is he aggressive on the track, he gets out of his car and cries about it as well.

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Post by BWard Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:50 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favourite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
I will admit, they are both aggressive drivers, but Plato is beyond aggressive, he's a reckless driver and I know he's done it a lot before.
 Matt Neal is worse. Not only is he aggressive on the track, he gets out of his car and cries about it as well.
Nope, Plato has done that too. Check this out
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:01 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favourite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
I will admit, they are both aggressive drivers, but Plato is beyond aggressive, he's a reckless driver and I know he's done it a lot before.
 Matt Neal is worse. Not only is he aggressive on the track, he gets out of his car and cries about it as well.
Nope, Plato has done that too. Check this out
That was probably a defining moment in my opinion of Plato. If your car is not quick enough, invest in a damn turbo. Instead he (one driver) cried about it which got the rules changed. Does he forget his years at Seat where the TDI was a clear advantage on the straights? He even complained about the Fords which were running a fuel that was helping the environment and subsequently got them restricted to the point where they were no longer worth using. He is a good driver but his attitude is unbearable.
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Post by BWard Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
Metro 6r4 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3506

More driver news for the BTCC.
Awesome!Very Happy  Very nice to see him back behind the wheel, he's probably my favourite BTCC driver, mainly because he doesn't act like a dick when driving *cough* Plato and Neal *cough*
I will admit, they are both aggressive drivers, but Plato is beyond aggressive, he's a reckless driver and I know he's done it a lot before.
 Matt Neal is worse. Not only is he aggressive on the track, he gets out of his car and cries about it as well.
Nope, Plato has done that too. Check this out
That was probably a defining moment in my opinion of Plato. If your car is not quick enough, invest in a damn turbo. Instead he (one driver) cried about it which got the rules changed. Does he forget his years at Seat where the TDI was a clear advantage on the straights? He even complained about the Fords which were running a fuel that was helping the environment and subsequently got them restricted to the point where they were no longer worth using. He is a good driver but his attitude is unbearable.
I usually get sick of his driving and his attitude combined, one example of why I hate the way he drives was when he blatantly spun out Tom Chilton on the straight at Silverstone in 2005 to win the race, and then got thankfully stripped of his victory.
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Post by Chives2112 Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:27 pm

>tfw your favorite BTCC driver is facing jailtime

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Post by Jason Hamilton Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:35 am

Jason Plato is a complete tool, I don't see how he still has fans. And apparently he is a wanker off the track as well
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:25 am

Jason Hamilton wrote:Jason Plato is a complete tool, I don't see how he still has fans.
Like him or not, he wins races. A lot of them. If you win enough, some people will overlook anything to jump on your bandwagon
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Post by crl Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:51 am

Neal and Plato are both annoying twits. Neal's a nitwit who'll sacrifice common sense for a win (see: finish at Oulton Park two years ago when a Honda 1-2 ended up being a Honda gravel trap special), and Plato whines about everything, such as the confrontation with Neal at Rockingham two years ago, when Plato whined that Neal committed "battery" by putting his hands on him. I would love to be wrecked by Plato, because I would relish punching him in the face afterward, just to hear his whining to ITV.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:39 am

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Jason Hamilton wrote:Jason Plato is a complete tool, I don't see how he still has fans.
Like him or not, he wins races. A lot of them. If you win enough, some people will overlook anything to jump on your bandwagon
 The same applies for Matt Neal. There was so many Honda fans at Oulton Park who would cheer whenever an MG got passed. When Tordoff had a problem in race 2, the Honda fans were STILL cheering for every car that passed him. I found it funny, even though I'm a diehard MG fan. Razz

I agree Plato can be a tool, and is aggressive, but he is a good driver. I like him because of his (oh lord) driving style in recent years. I think he's calmed down lately and stopped whining as much. Point in case, his interview at Snetterton after he rolled his car. He was still making jokes instead of calling out anyone for the check up, while Matt Neal was QQing over his radio even though he still scored points in the race. However, I'm a bigger fan of Tordoff than Plato so...

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Post by Milan655 Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:57 am

I haven't watched BTCC since 2010, when Triple 8 Vauxhall thought it would be a good idea to replace Fabrizio with James Nash and Phil Glew...

Out of interest, does any one else watch the WTCC? I've always preferred it to the BTCC (don't hurt me) as the Eurosport broadcasts are generally more enjoyable to watch, and the support races were also quite interesting (only Auto GP now Sad ). Anyway, after BMW, SEAT and Chevrolet ended their works programmes in the WTCC, leaving Honda and Thomo in the sorry Lada to make up the remaining works teams, Citroen will bring that number to 3 with this:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109203

And with Muller and Loeb piloting it...
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Post by Alpineopossum Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:13 am

I've watched the WTCC, but I haven't seen any of this years races.
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Post by BWard Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:53 am

Milan655 wrote:I haven't watched BTCC since 2010, when Triple 8 Vauxhall thought it would be a good idea to replace Fabrizio with James Nash and Phil Glew...
Actually, their original sponsor to begin the Season UNIQ pulled out after the first meeting at Thruxton, so Giovonardi couldn't be retained by the team.
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Post by Milan655 Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:35 am

BWardboy88 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:I haven't watched BTCC since 2010, when Triple 8 Vauxhall thought it would be a good idea to replace Fabrizio with James Nash and Phil Glew...
Actually, their original sponsor to begin the Season UNIQ pulled out after the first meeting at Thruxton, so Giovonardi couldn't be retained by the team.
Yes I know. Glew took Fabrizio's original race seat, then after UNIQ pulled out Nash had sponsorship and was inexpensive.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:53 am

Milan655 wrote:I haven't watched BTCC since 2010, when Triple 8 Vauxhall thought it would be a good idea to replace Fabrizio with James Nash and Phil Glew...

Out of interest, does any one else watch the WTCC? I've always preferred it to the BTCC (don't hurt me) as the Eurosport broadcasts are generally more enjoyable to watch, and the support races were also quite interesting (only Auto GP now Sad). Anyway, after BMW, SEAT and Chevrolet ended their works programmes in the WTCC, leaving Honda and Thomo in the sorry Lada to make up the remaining works teams, Citroen will bring that number to 3 with this:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109203

And with Muller and Loeb piloting it...
To be fair I found it kind of irritating that Phil Glew was never given more drive's in a BTCC car because he dominated the Clio Cup and managed to get his car smothered in sponsorship sticker's. I actually met him along with Andrew and Mike Jordan at a testing event and he seemed like a really nice guy, I have no idea what he does now. The last I heard was that he was racing for Roger Clark's son in Time Attack events. I never really paid much attention to the WTCC but I did follow the season where Tarquini took the title (not sure what year it was). I will definitely watch it when Loeb gives it a go, as he seems to be brilliant on tarmac no matter what.
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Post by BWard Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Just a bit of a bump for this thread, thought I'd like to post some of my personal favourite BTCC Paint Schemes from the past and present.

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Post by Milan655 Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:40 am

Autosport has done a feature on one of the greatest periods of touring cars (in my opinion the most important); SuperTouring. Available online for purchase at £2.99, featuring:

*What went wrong
*Top 25 SuperTouring drivers
*TOCA video game series
...among others.

EDIT: It appears the some of the features I mentioned are only available for subscribers on the Autosport website Um... 


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Post by Alta Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:11 am

I guess Continental Tire counts for American Touring car racing. But anyway...

There is a rumor that Billy Johnson beat the everlasting crap out of someone from the Racer's Edge team.
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Post by BWard Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:23 pm

More news from the British Touring Car Championship. A new record will be set on Sunday, as Scottish driver Aiden Moffat aged 16 will become the youngest ever driver to compete in an outright BTCC Race at Knockhill this weekend.

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3514
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Post by BWard Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:56 am

Rob Austin claims pole for Race 1 at Knockhill in the BTCC. The difference between Qualifiers 1 to 19 were seperated by just 0.833 seconds. Coling Turkington is 2nd, while Andrew Jordan got 3rd, but he has that six place grid penalty implied to him from Snetterton so he is relegated to 9th for the first race.
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Post by Milan655 Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:21 am

BWardboy88 wrote:More news from the British Touring Car Championship. A new record will be set on Sunday, as Scottish driver Aiden Moffat aged 16 will become the youngest ever driver to compete in an outright BTCC Race at Knockhill this weekend.

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3514
Moffat sounds familiar, but am I thinking of a V8 Supercars driver?
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:43 pm

Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:More news from the British Touring Car Championship. A new record will be set on Sunday, as Scottish driver Aiden Moffat aged 16 will become the youngest ever driver to compete in an outright BTCC Race at Knockhill this weekend.

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3514
Moffat sounds familiar, but am I thinking of a V8 Supercars driver?
Yes. James Moffat drives one of the Nissan's there, he actually just took his first win with them.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:05 pm

Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:More news from the British Touring Car Championship. A new record will be set on Sunday, as Scottish driver Aiden Moffat aged 16 will become the youngest ever driver to compete in an outright BTCC Race at Knockhill this weekend.

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3514
Moffat sounds familiar, but am I thinking of a V8 Supercars driver?
He was racing Fiesta Junior's last year. He also had a very close battle for second with another driver at Donington and he wasn't afraid to bump people out of the way so he'll do well in the BTCC.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:51 am

Some neat passes by Jack Rawles in the Junior race. Shame he threw it away towards the end.
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Post by BWard Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:01 am

Colin Turkington wins Race 1 at Knockhill, with Gordon Shedden 2nd and Rob Austin 3rd.
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Post by Tanrar Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:49 am

Colin Turkington takes Race 2 as well, with Rob Austin 2nd and Gordon Shedden 3rd.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:40 am

Jason Plato blaming the car regulations instead of his actual car for the lack of pace.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:29 am

Metro 6r4 wrote:Jason Plato blaming the car regulations instead of his actual car for the lack of pace.
Really, because it sounded like he was blaming the fact they couldn't get the setup right to me. Um...

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Post by BWard Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:24 pm

Andrew Jordan took advantage of being drawn the pole for Race 3 to go on and take his fourth victory of the Season.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:32 pm

Good weekend for Andrew Jordan - it was a shame he was stuck behind Matt Neal for pretty much the first 2 races, but even if he had managed to muscle his way past, he'dve most likely lost points in race 3.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:59 pm

I'm calling Turkington as the 2013 champ, just saying.
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Post by BWard Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:46 am

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=3535

Tom Onslow-Cole will sit out the rest of the 2013 BTCC Season to continue development on his VW Passat with his team to make it more competitive for 2014.
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Post by BWard Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:46 pm

A little bit of a bump here, BTCC heads to the Rockingham Motor Speedway this weekend and ima head there to. See ya!
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:48 am

MATT NEAL SPUN COMING TO THE GREEN AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Post by crl Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:40 am

Ben Atkins wrote:MATT NEAL SPUN COMING TO THE GREEN AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Video, please.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:57 am

crl wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:MATT NEAL SPUN COMING TO THE GREEN AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Video, please.
I'll link it when it goes up, should be up by the end of the day.

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