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Post by bigdc48 Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:19 pm

After the doubleheader in Detroit, which was won by Sebastian Bourdais in Race 1 and Will Power in Race 2, the IndyCar Series heads down South for the 3rd oval race of the season at Texas Motor Speedway on Saturday night. Scott Dixon won for the 2nd time ever at the Texas track, with the racing there recently gone to a snoozefest the past few years. So let's hope for a good show.

The race is this Saturday 8 pm et on NBCSN.
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Post by bigdc48 Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:39 pm

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Post by Cardinals5 Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:08 pm

Can we just talk about how entertaining it's been to watch the broadcast team bullshitting the whole time?

Hinch in the stands is wonderful as well.
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Post by AntmanB Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:47 pm

Race postponed until 1 pm cdt tomorrow. So 3 races at the same time.
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:40 am

I cannot believe that I watched all three hours of that rain delay broadcast.

Good grief, do they ever become stupid when they're bored! Laughing
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Post by Alta Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:59 am

Cardinals5 wrote:Can we just talk about how entertaining it's been to watch the broadcast team bullshitting the whole time?

Hinch in the stands is wonderful as well.
I love the "we're outta stuff, so screw it" broadcasts. Very Happy
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Post by PRAWBLEMS Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:13 pm

Will be run on CNBC due to coverage of the Orlando terror attack moving the Canadian GP to NBCSN.
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Post by PRAWBLEMS Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:11 pm

Oh God. Daly and Newgarden just crashed massively. Newgarden upside down and into the wall head first. Hope both are ok.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:12 pm

That was a terrifying crash, I'm happy to see they are both out, but I'm concerned for Josef pale
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Post by JMac525 Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:36 pm

Pretty terrifying crash in there. I hope Newgarden is doing alright. That wave helped from him was a good sign. Conor Daly earned even more respect from me taking the blame there.
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Post by PRAWBLEMS Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:38 pm

Can someone explain why Indycar didn't throw a red flag?
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Post by Rovenami Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:43 pm

PRAWBLEMS wrote:Can someone explain why Indycar didn't throw a red flag?
Had it been a couple years ago, they most likely would have. I don't know.
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Post by Backmarker Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:15 pm

Glad Josef's okay, but that's just more evidence for the need to look into closed cockpits. Although the fact that they still run 1.5 mile ovals was a bigger issue in this case.
PRAWBLEMS wrote:Can someone explain why Indycar didn't throw a red flag?
It made more sense at that point to run more yellow laps than to delay the race even more. Although with the rain coming back it didn't matter.
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Post by AntmanB Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:06 pm

Race will resume August 27th. I'm not kidding.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:14 pm

AntmanB wrote:Race will resume August 27th. I'm not kidding.

Well, then... looks like no review from me this week.
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Post by AntmanB Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:21 pm

You can review the 71 laps we ran :p
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Post by Alta Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:40 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Although the fact that they still run 1.5 mile ovals was a bigger issue in this case.

1.5 milers have always been an Indycar staple...the accident was crappy time and crappy placement, I'm sorry to say but anyone going "ban cookie cutters" is really, really kneejerkish.
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Post by PYLrulz Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:44 pm

It's not so much the 1.5 mile ovals, my issue is the BANKED ovals that are meant to make stock cars go fast...  Then again, how the accident happened, that could have happened at Indy too.  Just a racing accident with the added bonus of showing how far safety has come along
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:36 pm

Josef Newgarden has suffered fractures in both his right collarbone and his right hand. Thankfully, he otherwise appears to be all right.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/motor/2016/06/12/indycar-remains-delayed-wet-track-conditions/85793300/

I know that the roll hoops on these cars work extremely well, but watching Newgarden's overturned car slide into the wall was horrifying. Thank goodness that Daly is completely unharmed, and it's fortunate that Josef's injuries are minimal. It's scary to think of how badly that he could have been harmed, and at the same time it's amazing to realize how well that all of the advancements that have been made in the safety of the cars and the barriers have worked. Hopefully we won't see anything of this severity when the series returns in August.
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Post by Milan655 Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:05 am

These cars are built strong, glad to see Daly walk away and Newgarden with largely minimal injury.

I assume the delay to August is to allow the likes of Aleshin and Bourdais to arrive on time for Le Mans tech inspection?
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Post by Alta Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:38 am

Milan655 wrote:These cars are built strong, glad to see Daly walk away and Newgarden with largely minimal injury.

I assume the delay to August is to allow the likes of Aleshin and Bourdais to arrive on time for Le Mans tech inspection?
Yeah and the forecast in still not good tomorrow.
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Post by bigdc48 Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:52 pm

Saw the Newgarden-Daly crash. I'm so glad Newgarden and Daly are okay 'cause that wasn't pretty by any means.

Ashamed the race had to be moved to a later date, but couldn't they just rerun the whole 248 laps? IDK.
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Post by zfitzwater599 Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:18 pm

Newgarden out Hildebrand in New garden's Car until Newgarden is cleared by Doctors
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Post by AntmanB Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:16 am

Bump as race resumes this weekend.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:23 pm

Ed Carpenter is the most classless piece of shit in Indycar.

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Post by PRAWBLEMS Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:39 pm

Now we smashy time.
WOW. What racing. Also, wtf, Rahal?
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Post by Ben Atkins Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:54 pm

WOW WOW WOW

WHAT A FINISH!!!

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Post by Memoriesallbutdone Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:56 pm

So gut wrenching for Hinchy...
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Post by PackerMan71 Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:57 pm

A god-tier race at Texas?

Hell has frozen over. Laughing
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Post by f1fan12 Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:59 pm

What a race!
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Post by gone-sovereign Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:16 pm

Gutted for Hinch, but I can't complain because that was a hell of a finish! Never thought I'd see something like that at Texas of all places.
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Post by PackerMan71 Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:27 pm

Well, Hell has indeed frozen over. Who would've thought that we'd see a god-tier race at Texas Motor Speedway?

Even the first 71 laps were pretty entertaining, even though 30 of those laps were under yellow after that frightening crash with Conor Daly and Josef Newgarden. And then we had a long ass green flag run that had lots of good side-by-side racing, which pleasantly surprised the hell out of me considering how shitty the racing at TMS has been.

Of course, the douchebag move of the race obviously goes to Ed Carpenter for that chop block on Scott Dixon. I'll be the first to admit that I don't like Dixon, but what Carpenter did was straight up bullshit, and the fact that he wasn't penalized for it pisses me off even more. Of course, in the end, karma came back to bite him in the ass when he wrecked off of turn 4.

After three straight cautions where we saw just 1 to 2 laps of racing, we finally got the final restart inside of ten to go, and HO-LEE SHEE-IT! That was some of the best racing I've seen all year. How the hell do these guys go four wide... TWICE... and somehow NOT WRECK? And that side-by-side battle between Hincecliffe and TK was amazing, and on the white flag, I honestly though Hincy had it, but he left the bottom wide open for Graham Rahal to come up and take advantage of it. And then he started celebrating... even though Hincecliffe came back on him and almost beat him to the line. The final margin of victory: 0.008 seconds, the length of the front wing. Unreal.

Gutted for James Hincecliffe, because he led all those laps and loses it like that, but that was one helluva finish to a pretty damn good race. There was a good chunk of it when Hincy had an eight second lead and Texas fell right back into what it was known for, but thankfully it was just a portion of the race instead of the whole damn thing.

STAR OF THE RACE: James Hincecliffe. A stellar performance that unfortunately came up short.

REJECT OF THE RACE: Ed Carpenter. He should just retire.

FINAL RATING: This is, without a doubt, the highest rating I've ever given a TMS race, period. The Firestone 600 gets a 9/10. Seriously. This was, in my opinion, the best race I've ever seen at Texas Motor Speedway.

Next up, we go to Watkins Glen. Oh, buddah!
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Post by SpeedDemon37 Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:42 pm

As a fan of Graham Rahal, my opinion on this race is most certainly biased.

That being said, that was an AMAZING race!!!

In seriousness, I feel really bad for James Hinchcliffe. He proved without a doubt that he had the fastest car all night, although at the same time I'm really happy for the Rahal family. Kudos to both Firestone and IndyCar for finding a formula to put on the show that we witnessed. The last eight laps and especially the finish were absolutely thrilling!!!
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Post by Alta Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:43 pm

Best Texas race in anything in a long time, heck you can add the start and it wouldn't bring it down, Great stuff...helluva finish. As much as i wanted Hinchcliffe to win it, i'm fine with Graham.

Damn that was fun!
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:03 am

Pointless fact of the day: Castroneves' 5th-place finish is the best result he's had in the final 4 races of the season since Fontana in 2012, when he also finished 5th. You have to go back to Sonoma 2011 to get a better result, which was a 2nd-place finish.
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Post by bigdc48 Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:18 am

That was the best race I've ever seen at Texas Motor Speedway. Congrats Graham. How they got out of 4-wide, I'll never know.
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