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Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by AntmanB on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:39 pm

Its that Time again. IndyCar, Indy Lights, Pirelli World Challenge, Weather Tech United Sports Car Championship, and Others will Take to the Famous Streets one More Time. This is also the Last time for the Toyota Pro/Celebrity Race as it will Retire after this Weekend.

Last Time Out at Phoenix, Who i Like to Call The Jimmie Johnson of Indycar, Scott Dixon, Took Home the Win.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:06 pm

Castroneves is on the pole for the second race in a row, and Dixon starts on the front row, as well. Qualifying was plagued by issues with the transponders and timing loops, with the entire system needing to be reset during Q2.

The rest of the Firestone Fast Six consisted of Pagenaud, Kanaan, Montoya, and Power (who had his only lap time of the Fast Six session wiped after overshooting turn 9 and causing a red flag).
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:05 pm

Barring something absurd happening, like both Pagenaud being penalised and Scott Dixon somehow running out of fuel, it looks like this will be yet another race that Castroneves should've won and didn't. It's happened far too many times in the past couple years for a Penske driver - if he doesn't pull it off, it'll 99 weeks since he last won an IndyCar race by the time he wins again... if he wins again.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by AntmanB on Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:48 pm

Well, that was kinda boring. I'm sure it will pick up at Indy. Always seems to be the case.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by Alpineopossum on Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:50 pm

Good race for Pagenaud, but I can understand why Dixon isn't pleased with the results.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by Alta on Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:44 pm

Chill race.

Awesome to see Pagenaud win but i won't argue with people who feel he should've got a penalty for the line stuff.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by Cynon on Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:31 pm

It's really been a long time since Indycar has had decent officiating... :\

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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:52 pm

That was a very uniteresting race to me personally, but I suppose that they can't all be showstoppers. The fact that Pagenaud wasn't dealt a penalty (which affected the results significantly) for crossing the blend line didn't help, either. It was nice to see Sato in the top 5, though.

Hopefully Barber Motorsports Park will produce a more exciting race. The past few races there have been pretty fun to watch!
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by f1fan12 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:14 pm

Barber gets really fun when it rains! Prior to 2012, races at Barber were real snore-fests. But the DW12 really improved racing there.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:47 pm

Cynon wrote:It's really been a long time since Indycar has had decent officiating... :\

Better than NASCAR officiating.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by f1fan12 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:06 am

PackerMan71 wrote:
Cynon wrote:It's really been a long time since Indycar has had decent officiating... :\

Better than NASCAR officiating.

Both have their moments...
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by PackerMan71 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:11 am

f1fan12 wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:
Cynon wrote:It's really been a long time since Indycar has had decent officiating... :\

Better than NASCAR officiating.

Both have their moments...

Yep, but NASCAR moreso than IndyCar, IMO.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by PackerMan71 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:59 am

2016 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach Review

Damn. A caution free race at Long Beach. Of course, it's happened before, but not since 1989, so it's been a while. Pretty sure all of the drivers were pretty exhausted after this one.

Also, for the second year in a row, every car finished the race. That's pretty wild, considering how narrow Long Beach can be at some points.

And did you see how many people were in the grandstands? Holy shit. Of course, it is Long Beach, so it is to be expected.

Pretty uneventful race, although there were some pretty cool moments. The Max Chilton deal with him cutting turn 5 was pretty amusing, and it took the officials long enough to tell him to stop doing it. Paul Tracy's reaction to it was pretty hilarious as well. Laughing

Of course, the burning issue was Simon Pagenaud crossing the blend line on the final pit stop. Did he cross the line? Looks like it, although it was very close. Should he have been penalized? If you go by the letter of the law, yeah, maybe he should have. but we all know that the letter of the law means jack shit nowadays, as NASCAR has proven over the years.

The other thing is, we can't really blame Brian Barnhart anymore, since he's not the one making the calls. Shame, really. Razz Laughing

But, that aside, Pagenaud finally gets his first win with Team Penske. It's about damn time, son, and this win firmly establishes him as a prime contender for the championship this year.

Dixon did make it interesting on that last lap, and we ended up having the closest finish in Long Beach GP history. 42 years of racing, and that's the closest margin between first and second we've ever seen. Wrap your head around that shit.

Star of the Race: Takuma Sato. Top five run at the track where he got his lone IndyCar win, and he was giving Montoya a run for his money. Good stuff.

Reject of the Race: None, really. Sure, I could give it to the officials for the Simon Pagenaud thing, but really, everyone minded their p's and q's today, and there weren't any super epic fails to speak of, so... no nomination this week from me. Won't happen very often, I assure you. Laughing

FINAL RATING: Middle of the road race. Wasn't good, wasn't bad. Had it's moments. I'll go a 5.0/10 this week.

Next up is Barber, which has been pretty hit or miss in its tenure with IndyCar. Hopefully, this one will be a home run.
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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by Ben Atkins on Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:46 am

PackerMan71 wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:
Cynon wrote:It's really been a long time since Indycar has had decent officiating... :\

Better than NASCAR officiating.

Both have their moments...

Yep, but NASCAR moreso than IndyCar, IMO.

NASCAR haven't been that bad this year, honestly.

Race was alright. A little dull compared to NASCAR @ Bristol but still a decent show.

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Re: Toyota GP of Long Beach Weekend

Post by Liam O'Brian on Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:04 pm

Here's an article with a bunch of people crossing the line.

http://popularopenwheel.com/pagenaud-non-call-puts-magnifying-glass-race-officiating/

At least it was damn consistent.
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