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Post by bigdc48 on Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:40 pm

This usually was supposed to be the season finale of the Verizon IndyCar Series at the 2-mile superspeedway at Fontana, but IndyCar moved it to late-June for the 2nd 500-mile race of the season. Tony Kanaan won last year's race. Josef Newgarden won the most recent race in a thriller in Toronto over Filippo, Castroneves and Power. Montoya currently leads the championship.

The race is Saturday at 4pm et.
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Post by crl on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:54 pm

Here is the entry list: https://d1b8ufspcmikd1.cloudfront.net/~/media/Files/2015/IndyCarSeries/12-FON/indycar-entrylist.pdf?vs=1&d=20150623T111318

Briscoe back in the 5 car, Karam back in the 8, Mann and Vautier back in the 18 and 19, respectively; and, we're also at an oval, so, Carpenter hops back in the 20.

Also, note that the NBCSN promo is calling the race "Indy Fontana", which means they're now pulling the horsecrap of not calling the race by its real name, unless the title sponsor pays for advertising.

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Post by crl on Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:30 pm


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Post by Alta on Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:47 am

When hasn't Penske won the pole this year?
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:04 am

Alta wrote:When hasn't Penske won the pole this year?
Indy (Dixon/Ganassi). Power has 5, Juan and Helio have 2, and now Simon as 1.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:05 pm

3rd Dale Coyne pit crew member getting hit.

Getting really ridiculous.


Fun racing so far Very Happy
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:15 pm

Kind of disappointing to see such a sparse crowd.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:44 pm

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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:08 pm

Briscoe blaming Helio for the contact when Briscoe was the one who moved up into him in the first place.

F**king idiot. No
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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:17 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:Briscoe blaming Helio for the contact when Briscoe was the one who moved up into him in the first place.

F**king idiot. No

There's a reason he's been dumped after the last full-time seasons he's ran.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:18 pm

THIS RACING!!!
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:20 pm

Ed Carpenter and Josef Newgarden wrecked Sad

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Post by BWard on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:25 pm

Is is a bad thing or not that this may be the best race of the season at the rate its going, including the Indy 500?
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:45 pm

That gasman on Rahal's car is gonna get a talk. That was stupid.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:58 pm

Why didn't they gave Rahal a drive-thru? What.
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Post by BooyakaDragon on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:00 pm

This is........ridiculous, and not in a good way.
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Post by BWard on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:01 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Why didn't they gave Rahal a drive-thru? What.

It was a pit crew blunder, I doubt they would've penalized the driver for something that was not his fault.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:14 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Why didn't they gave Rahal a drive-thru? What.

It was a pit crew blunder, I doubt they would've penalized the driver for something that was not his fault.

Well they just told post-race penalty likely
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Post by BooyakaDragon on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:24 pm

Well at least people can't whine about Power winning this now.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:26 pm

Power just pushed someone.

Wasn't Sato's fault.

Red Flag please.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:27 pm

That wasn't even Sato fault. Will Power is a douche.

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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:30 pm

Great racing! Thanks for telling it like it is Foyt!

Tim Cindric is butthurt because his driver wrecked.
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Post by BWard on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:31 pm

Hey Tim Cindric....
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Post by f1fan12 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:31 pm

I kind of see both sides of this... I honestly think this may be the first and last Fontana race like this. But it sure is entertaining.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:42 pm

RAHAL WINS AFTER BRISCOW BLOWS OVER!
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Post by RealRacingRoots on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:42 pm

So that was the best car Takuma Sato will have all year. It seems like once a year Foyt nails the setup for his car, and odds are someone else trolls into Taku. His Kevin Harvick, "WHERE DID HE COME FROM?!" impression was rock solid there at the end.

Briscoe. Shocked
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Post by BooyakaDragon on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:42 pm

Thank god it's over, and Kanaan got 2nd, I'll take it.
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Post by BWard on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:43 pm

Jesus Christ Briscoe O_O

Also, good win GRAHAM RAHAL LOOOOOOOOOL.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:43 pm

UUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Shame the race had to end like that. And it's a shame Graham Rahal had to win one of the best races I've ever watched.

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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:46 pm

Great win for Rahal. He really deserved it.
Happy Briscoe is okay, but he finshed where he should've.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:47 pm

Loved that racing but damn it Briscoe, scared me shitless.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:47 pm

Power can just shut his yapper, HE COMPARED VEGAS TO FONTANA! Last time i checked Fontana can go 5 wide with extra room, guy is a hothead.

Bringing up the Vegas 2011 is too much, and triggered me.


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Post by BooyakaDragon on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:47 pm

Glad Graham Rahal won, he's been pretty good so far this season and has been pretty close to a few wins already.

I kinda agree with Power, that racing was....in my opinion, too much. Though the mention of Las Vegas was not needed.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:06 pm

I'm tired of the "Racing is dangerous!" excuse for not fixing obvious safety problems.
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Post by BWard on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:23 pm

This is what annoys me most about what I've seen and heard today, including what Will Power said about Las Vegas in his rather pitiful interview. Fontana is NOTHING like Las Vegas in terms of pack racing. Putting 34 cars tightly packed into a 1.5 mile, with all drivers running flat out was just a recipe for tragedy, and it sadly was.

With Fontana, it's somewhat reasonable with the track having lots of racing room with considering how wide the track is, there's plenty of space for the cars to use so accidents would be less frequent. And despite the outcome of the end with Briscoe's scary flip, we could've seen worse than that today, but thankfully we didn't and that's very important.

And also, I'm sure the winner may not have been what most people wanted and I can understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that this race will go down in history as one of the best in IndyCar racing, but it also disappoints me that crowd turnout for the race was rather upsetting as well.
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Post by Mystrsyko on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:29 pm

So, clearly the aero kits need some wind tunnel work to help prevent blowovers. It's only a matter of time until someone cheese-graters the car against the fence.

Credit where it's due though, Dallara makes a heck of a strong safety tub for those cars. Didn't think it could take a lawn-dart kind of impact at those speeds without breaking apart
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Post by Alta on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:33 pm

Fantastic race and honestly most likely the best race of 2015, That's race you will come back to and say "Damn i remember this race and they were going nuts." Just nutty racing all 250 laps of it. Rahal broke the streak....took him long enough lol.

They need to figure out the stuff with the cars getting airborne, you could see from the start of the accident with Briscoe that it was a perfect setup for turning the car into an auto Frisbee. Good thing to see him get out as that dig-in looked nasty. I kind of hope we can get that perfect medium with good racing like this and it being as safe as possible, maybe it's not possible but hey i try my hardest to be optimistic.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:37 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:I'm tired of the "Racing is dangerous!" excuse for not fixing obvious safety problems.

I don't think anyone said anything about that here??? CONFOOSED

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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:49 pm

BooyakaDragon wrote:I kinda agree with Power, that racing was....in my opinion, too much.

I seriously doubt a lot of people is gonna agree with you, including myself. To each his own, though.

Without a doubt, one of the best races I've ever seen IndyCar put on. When you have a mind-boggling, not to mention IndyCar record setting 80 lead changes, shattering a 14 year mark, plus the incredible side-by-side racing, going three and four wide, divebombs for the lead, it's incredible to watch. It's a shame it had to end under caution like that, but it was inevitable, and thankfully, Briscoe was alright after such a violent accident.

Rejects of the Race are Will Power and Tim Cindric. Get the industrial-sized bottle of Preparation H out for these two, because the amount of butthurt on display from the both of them was sickening, to be honest. Both of you seriously need to sprout a sack. No

Statistically the most competitive race in IndyCar history, and without a doubt, the most exciting race of the year so far, IndyCar or NASCAR.

The MavTV 500 @ Auto Club gets nothing less than a 10/10.


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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:53 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
NeverNeutral wrote:I'm tired of the "Racing is dangerous!" excuse for not fixing obvious safety problems.

I don't think anyone said anything about that here??? CONFOOSED
I've been hearing about it elsewhere, mostly just from fans who don't know any better though.
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Post by racingfreak1999 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:53 pm

I didn't know the race was even on tonight.  Fuck, I'm really terrible with that this year.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:56 pm

racingfreak1999 wrote:I didn't know the race was even on tonight.  Fuck, I'm really terrible with that this year.

The race will probably be on YouTube tomorrow, and I HIGHLY advise watching it.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:59 pm

To clarify, I don't like the pack racing, I'd much rather have the kind of racing we saw at Indy last year. It's not as big an issue to me as the lack of a closed cockpit, though. Some open wheel fans just have a hard time letting nostalgia go.
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Post by PYLrulz on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:20 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:Kind of disappointing to see such a sparse crowd.

Would you want to sit in near 100 degree temps for a few hours?!?  As much as I like IndyCar, that would be a negative for me, not unless you can get me seats that are shaded or in the air conditioning

As for the racing itself, saw some clips... seriously... pack racing?!?  Didn't IndyCar see what happened the last time we had pack racing?!?  Yeah, there is a little more room, and there isn't 34 cars trying to race, but pack racing IndyCars is a recipe for disaster, be it 20odd cars on a 2 mile very wide oval, or 30odd at a tight 1.5 mile oval.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:25 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:Kind of disappointing to see such a sparse crowd.

Would you want to sit in near 100 degree temps for a few hours?!?  As much as I like IndyCar, that would be a negative for me, not unless you can get me seats that are shaded or in the air conditioning

As for the racing itself, saw some clips... seriously... pack racing?!?  Didn't IndyCar see what happened the last time we had pack racing?!?  Yeah, there is a little more room, and there isn't 34 cars trying to race, but pack racing IndyCars is a recipe for disaster, be it 20odd cars on a 2 mile very wide oval, or 30odd at a tight 1.5 mile oval.

They made it work for 125 laps without caution. They put on a hell of a show. Was very sketchy but it seemed to suit the track much more.

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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:11 pm

He may suck, but Briscoe is a cool dude Razz

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Post by BooyakaDragon on Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:51 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:He may suck, but Briscoe is a cool dude Razz

I'm curious as to why people say he sucks, I mean, he was pretty good as far as I recall.
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Post by PYLrulz on Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:27 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
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PackerMan71 wrote:Kind of disappointing to see such a sparse crowd.

Would you want to sit in near 100 degree temps for a few hours?!?  As much as I like IndyCar, that would be a negative for me, not unless you can get me seats that are shaded or in the air conditioning

As for the racing itself, saw some clips... seriously... pack racing?!?  Didn't IndyCar see what happened the last time we had pack racing?!?  Yeah, there is a little more room, and there isn't 34 cars trying to race, but pack racing IndyCars is a recipe for disaster, be it 20odd cars on a 2 mile very wide oval, or 30odd at a tight 1.5 mile oval.

They made it work for 125 laps without caution. They put on a hell of a show. Was very sketchy but it seemed to suit the track much more.

NASCAR has raced 188 laps at Talladega without caution a couple times.
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Re: MAVTV 500 - IndyCar

Post by crl on Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:38 pm

I'm all for "breaking up the pack" - not for safety reasons, mind you, but to keep hacks like Rahal from winning. Seriously, that was like a restrictor plate race: constant battling at the front, and at the end, David Ragan wins. Also, Rahal left the pits with the buckeye from the fuel hose, then lost it on the track, which caused a yellow. How is that not a penalty? Not to mention he swerved all over the place like a madman. Oh, well. At least he won't win in Milwaukee. Fun race, but, Christ, what a joke of an ending. Glad Briscoe's OK, too.

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