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Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:23 pm

The Stock Car season begins at Daytona with the boys and girls of ARCA duking it out at Daytona, we have a very interesting driver list with veterans and rookies alike.

ARCA wrote:NO DRIVER/HOMETOWN TEAM & CAR TEAM OWNER
0 James Swanson/Clarksboro NJ Kan Do Chevrolet Wayne Peterson
1 J.J. Pack/Bealeton VA Bugsy's Auto Ford Willie Mullins
2 Sarah Cornett-Ching/Summerland BC Hixson Construction Chevrolet Wayne Hixson
3 Karl Weber/Ambia IN Hixson Construction Chevrolet Wayne Hixson
5 Bobby Gerhart/Lebanon PA Lucas Oil-MAV TV Chevrolet Bill Gerhart
6 Josh Williams/Port Charlotte FL Southwest Florida Cable Construction Ford Theresa Williams

7 TBA Bobby Gerhart Racing Chevrolet Bill Gerhart
8 Austin Hill/China Grove NC Empire Racing Ford John Corr
9 Thomas Praytor/Mobile AL DK-LOK Ford Thomas Praytor
10 Garrett Smithley/Kannapolis NC Rick Ware Racing Chevrolet Andy Hillenburg
11 Mark Thompson/Cartersville GA Phoenix Air Toyota Andy Hillenburg
12 Tyler Audie/Orlando FL Audie Expo Toyota Jim Audie
15 Daniel Suarez/Monterrey Mexico Venturini Motorsports Toyota Bill Venturini
17 TBA Roulo Brothers Racing Ford Russ Roulo
18 Brent Cross/Cortland NY Northeast Transformer Svc-Johnson Tool Chevrolet Bill Catania
22 Blake Jones/Sevierville TN Uncle Ray's Potato Chips-Carolina Nut Dodge Kerry Scherer
23 Grant Enfinger/Fairhope AL Alamo Rent A Car Chevrolet Maury Gallagher

25 Frank Kimmel/Clarksville IN Ansell-Menards Toyota Cathy Venturini
30 Terry Jones/Amherstburg Ontario Jones Group Ltd Toyota Terry Jones
40 Donnie Neuenberger/Edgewater MD One Records Dodge Roger Carter
42 Bo LeMastus/Louisville KY Crosley Dodge Bo LeMastus
45 Brennan Poole/The Woodlands TX Motor Honey Ford Paula Bixman
48 Sean Corr/Goshen NY Empire Racing-Hylton Motorsports Ford James Hylton
49 Brad Smith/Shelby Township MI Hylton Motorsports Ford James Hylton

52 Clay Campbell/Martinsville VA Federated Auto Parts Chevrolet Ken Schrader
54 Matt Kurzejewski/Mansfield PA Lexington Inn & Suites Daytona Beach Chevrolet Daniel Kurzejewski
55 Cody Coughlin/Delaware OH JEGS Toyota Billy Venturini
57 Bryan Dauzat/Concord NC O.B. Builders Chevrolet Bryan Dauzat
58 John Lowinski-Loh/Milford MA Gary Yeomans Ford Amanda Lira
59 TBA Gary Yeomans Ford Amanda Lira
66 Leilani Munter/Rochester MN Energy Freedom Toyota Cathy Venturini
68 David Levine/Highland Park IL Gary Yeomans Ford Bill Kimmel
69 Will Kimmel/Sellersburg IN Vogtland Springs-Accel Ford Bill Kimmel
73 Dale Shearer/Chillicothe MO Shearer Racing Ford Dale Shearer
76 Andy Seuss/Salisbury NC O.B. Builders Chevrolet Bryan Dauzat
77 Tom Hessert/Cherry Hill NJ Barbera's Autoland Dodge Briggs Cunningham
78 Mason Mitchell/West Des Moines IA Mason Mitchell Motorsports Ford Mason Mitchell
80 Russ Dugger/Owasso OK Gosselin-Finney Racing Chevrolet Brian Finney
82 Patrick Starapoli/Plantation FL Empire Racing Ford John Corr
83 Derrick Lancaster/Christiansburg VA Total Car & Truck Service Chevrolet Derrick Lancaster
88 Cole Powell/Mount Brydges Ontario Tricar Developments Ford Paula Bixman
92 Daniel Hemric/Kannapolis NC California Clean Power Chevrolet Bob Newberry
94 Dalton Hopkins/Avondale WV Roo Racing Ford Noel Saunders
95 Cassie Gannis/Phoenix AZ ManCaveSite.org Dodge Dana Carter
97 Bobby Hamilton Jr./Nashville TN Nitroforce Industries Titan 1000 Dodge Roger Carter
98 Austin Wayne Self/Austin TX AM Technical Solutions Ford Mason Mitchell
99 TBA Roulo Brothers Racing Ford Gary Roulo
02 Tommy Barrett Jr./Millis MA Our Motorsports Chevrolet Chris Our
00 Barry Fitzgerald/Sykesville MD ColonialBus-Roy's Body Shop-RAD Ford Michael Peterson
06 Ed Pompa/Ballston Spa NY Double H Ranch Chevrolet Wayne Peterson
09 Brett Hudson/Owensboro KY Brett Hudson Motorsports Ford Howard Bixman
120 Scott Sheldon/Statesville NC Allegiant Travel Chevrolet Maury Gallagher
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by kensethfan on Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:43 pm

ARCA wrote:120 Scott Sheldon/Statesville NC Allegiant Travel Chevrolet Maury Gallagher

I know NASCAR sometimes adds an extra digit to a number in owner points to distinguish two different teams running the same number, but is Sheldon actually going to run a triple-digit car? If so, that's certainly interesting...

also wayne peterson cars ftw
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Post by Alta on Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:01 am

kensethfan wrote:
ARCA wrote:120 Scott Sheldon/Statesville NC Allegiant Travel Chevrolet Maury Gallagher

I know NASCAR sometimes adds an extra digit to a number in owner points to distinguish two different teams running the same number, but is Sheldon actually going to run a triple-digit car? If so, that's certainly interesting...

also wayne peterson cars ftw
He's listed as #20 elsewhere.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by BooyakaDragon on Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:56 am

I wish Chad Boat was racing lol.

Going to pull for Bobby Hamilton Jr. on this one. Sr was my favorite truck driver when I was little lol.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by alancavy on Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:07 am

It's never a race without Jon Wes Townley
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:23 am

alancavy wrote:It's never a race without Jon Wes Townley
Too bad he's not running ARCA this year. Sad
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Post by bsoyuz on Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:26 am

The only thing I have to say is: #VENTURINIWINSLOL
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:46 pm

Also worth noting that, as it stands right now, this will be the only televised ARCA race this season.
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Post by Alta on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:54 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Also worth noting that, as it stands right now, this will be the only televised ARCA race this season.
I imagine either CBS or NBC will jump for the contract.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by PYLrulz on Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:58 am

Alta wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:Also worth noting that, as it stands right now, this will be the only televised ARCA race this season.
I imagine either CBS or NBC will jump for the contract.

I would almost think, at least for CBS. What do they really have to fill hours on their sports network?
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Post by SpeedDemon37 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:01 pm

I feel like I've been waiting far too long for this race. It's been 4 months too long since I've had any ARCA to watch!

I would think that Gerhart is overdue to win a race at Daytona, seeing as he hasn't done so in the last two years. Razz I would expect the #5 to do very well, but I'm interested in seeing if the Empire Racing cars will retain their speed from pre-season testing, too.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by flyingturns89 on Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:12 pm

ARCA announced that they have signed a three year extension with Fox Sports for the 2015, 2016, and 2017 ARCA seasons. This year's schedule will feature the races at Daytona, Talladega, Iowa, Lucas Oil Raceway, and Kentucky live on Fox Sports 1. Additionally, another five races will air live on Fox Sports 2, but will re-air on Fox Sports 1. Those five races are Michigan, Chicagoland, Kansas, and the two races at Pocono.
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Post by BWard on Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:26 am

inb4 cleaner racer than the Sprint Unlimited.
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Post by Alta on Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:35 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:inb4 cleaner racer than the Sprint Unlimited.
That's what i'm feeling lol
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Post by PYLrulz on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:21 am

Alta wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:inb4 cleaner racer than the Sprint Unlimited.
That's what i'm feeling lol
That ain't happening two years in a row. If it does, I'm putting something prasing Kyle Busch in my signature for a month
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by BBoy on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:37 am

PYLrulz wrote:
Alta wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:inb4 cleaner racer than the Sprint Unlimited.
That's what i'm feeling lol
That ain't happening two years in a row.  If it does, I'm putting something prasing Kyle Busch in my signature for a month

In that case, I suggest the one that either Dale Jarrett or Andy Petree said Kyle Busch having the best 25th place run that anyone ever had. I believe this was the same race he got into it with David Reutimann of all people.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by Casey Lester on Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:17 pm

I guess Roo Motorsports withdrew and Bill Catania took their car and slapped an 18 on it.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by PYLrulz on Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:14 pm

BBoy wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:
Alta wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:inb4 cleaner racer than the Sprint Unlimited.
That's what i'm feeling lol
That ain't happening two years in a row.  If it does, I'm putting something prasing Kyle Busch in my signature for a month

In that case, I suggest the one that either Dale Jarrett or Andy Petree said Kyle Busch having the best 25th place run that anyone ever had. I believe this was the same race he got into it with David Reutimann of all people.

Supply me with something in case ARCA somehow runs clean two years in a row. This is on
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Post by flyingturns89 on Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:22 pm

Casey Lester wrote:I guess Roo Motorsports withdrew and Bill Catania took their car and slapped an 18 on it.

Actually, Catania owns the #18 that Brent Cross was supposed to drive, but since Cross moved to the #99, Catania decided to drive the car himself. Roo Motorsports just withdrew.
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Post by Casey Lester on Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:54 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:I guess Roo Motorsports withdrew and Bill Catania took their car and slapped an 18 on it.

Actually, Catania owns the #18 that Brent Cross was supposed to drive, but since Cross moved to the #99, Catania decided to drive the car himself. Roo Motorsports just withdrew.

The 19 is shown earlier on in the thread, but this was recently posted: http://www.rubbins-racin.com/forums/showthread.php/45648-2015-ARCA-Racing-Series-Schemes?p=796869&viewfull=1#post796869
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:53 pm

Thursday's practice session sees Bobby Gerhart top the charts. Matt Kurzejewski was second, Bo LeMastus third, Blake Jones fourth, and Derrick Lancaster fifth. The rest of the top ten (in order) consists of Clay Campbell, Daniel Suarez, Frank Kimmel, Tom Hessert, and Will Kimmel.

None of the Empire Racing cars made the top 10 despite their speed in testing, with the #82 of Patrick Starapoli apparently stalling on the frontstretch.

Full article from arcaracing.com: http://www.arcaracing.com/articles/1993928-gerhart-leads-practice-session
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Post by Dan Mackay on Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:08 pm

gerhartprobablywinslol
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Post by Alta on Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:22 am

Gerhart is super speedy till he gets his time disallowed.
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Post by PYLrulz on Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:20 am

Alta wrote:Gerhart is super speedy till he gets his time disallowed.

Then he bitches, threatens to leave ARCA, puts stuff up for sale.. but then never leaves anyway
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Post by Mother of Invention on Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:36 am

Speaking of Empire Racing, who thought this was a good idea?

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Post by Casey Lester on Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:05 am

Mother of Invention wrote:Speaking of Empire Racing, who thought this was a good idea?


Please tell me that's not running tomorrow...
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Post by Mother of Invention on Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:20 pm

Casey Lester wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:Speaking of Empire Racing, who thought this was a good idea?


Please tell me that's not running tomorrow...

fastest in practice, so I think it might be..... Sad
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Post by Casey Lester on Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:45 pm

Thompson won the pole. IN A HILLENBURG CAR.

HOW.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:51 pm

Casey Lester wrote:Thompson won the pole. IN A HILLENBURG CAR.

HOW.

Hillenburg is the listed owner of the car, but it was prepared by Ken Schrader's team.

Also, assuming the car passes tech, it would mean that Mark Thompson would take the record for oldest driver to win a pole at 63 years, seven months, and four days.
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:28 am

Say what time does the ARCA Race start today cos' I don't know.
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Post by Alta on Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:49 am

BWardboy88 wrote:Say what time does the ARCA Race start today cos' I don't know.
4 EST. So that's like around 8-10 PM your time i believe.
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:02 am

Alta wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Say what time does the ARCA Race start today cos' I don't know.
4 EST. So that's like around 8-10 PM your time i believe.

That would then be 9pm my tine then.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:13 pm

Here's the starting grid for the race. The only car that failed tech was the #83 of Derrick Lancaster. Lancaster's car had a minimum height violation for the rear quarter panel, so his time was disallowed, and since the car didn't have enough owners points, he goes home.

Starting Grid:
POS NO DRIVER/HOMETOWN TEAM & CAR TIME SPEED
1 11 Mark Thompson/Cartersville GA Phoenix Air Toyota 48.042 187.336
2 55 Cody Coughlin/Delaware OH JEGS Toyota 48.046 187.320
3 77 Tom Hessert/Cherry Hill NJ Barbera's Autoland Dodge 48.084 187.172
4 09 Brett Hudson/Owensboro KY Brett Hudson Motorsports Dodge 48.098 187.118
5 52 Clay Campbell/Martinsville VA Federated Auto Parts Chevrolet 48.117 187.044
6 15 Daniel Suarez/Monterrey Mexico Arris Toyota 48.120 187.032
7 22 Blake Jones/Sevierville TN Uncle Ray's Potato Chips-Carolina Nut Dodge 48.142 186.947
8 69 Will Kimmel/Sellersburg IN Vogtland Springs-AmericanMuscle.com-Accel Ford 48.146 186.931
9 48 Sean Corr/Goshen NY Nesco-New York Horsepower CarriageOn Ford 48.174 186.823
10 66 Leilani Munter/Rochester MN Energy Freedom Toyota 48.235 186.587
11 25 Frank Kimmel/Clarksville IN Ansell-Menards Toyota 48.280 186.413
12 20 Scott Sheldon/Statesville NC Allegiant Travel Chevrolet 48.384 186.012
13 23 Grant Enfinger/Fairhope AL Alamo Rent A Car Chevrolet 48.452 185.751
14 5 Bobby Gerhart/Lebanon PA Lucas Oil-MAV TV Chevrolet 48.511 185.525
15 54 Matt Kurzejewski/Mansfield PA Lexington Inn & Suites Daytona Beach Chevrolet 48.522 185.483
16 12 Tyler Audie/Orlando FL Audie Expo Toyota 48.628 185.079
17 82 Patrick Staropoli/Plantation FL American RF-Empire Racing Ford 48.677 184.892
18 8 Austin Hill/China Grove NC A&D Welding-ARCO Build & Design Ford 48.689 184.847
19 68 David Levine/Highland Park IL Gary Yeomans Ford 48.703 184.794
20 17 Buster Graham/Lafayette LA Louisiana Tech Ford 48.715 184.748
21 92 Daniel Hemric/Kannapolis NC California Clean Power Chevrolet 48.832 184.305
22 58 John Lowinski-Loh/Milford MA Gary Yeomans-Auto Go Ford 48.834 184.298
23 78 Mason Mitchell/West Des Moines IA Mason Mitchell Motorsports Ford 48.837 184.286
24 49 Brad Smith/Shelby Township MI Radon.com Ford 48.873 184.151
25 06 Ed Pompa/Ballston Spa NY Double H Ranch Chevrolet 49.266 182.682
26 6 Josh Williams/Port Charlotte FL Southwest Florida Cable Construction Ford 49.269 182.671
27 98 Austin Wayne Self/Austin TX AM Technical Solutions Ford 49.589 181.492
28 30 Terry Jones/Amherstburg Ontario Jones Group Ltd Toyota 49.593 181.477
29 42 Bo LeMastus/Louisville KY Crosley-T&T Construction-Glad Precision Dodge 49.658 181.240
30 10 Garrett Smithley/Kannapolis NC Rick Ware Racing Chevrolet 50.198 179.290
31 9 Thomas Praytor/Mobile AL DK-LOK Ford  Provisional
32 3 Karl Weber/Ambia IN Silveus Financial Chevrolet  Provisional
33 2 Sarah Cornett-Ching/Summerland BC PitStopsForHope.org Chevrolet  Provisional
34 0 James Swanson/Clarksboro NJ Kan Do Chevrolet  Provisional
35 40 Donnie Neuenberger/Edgewater MD Records One Dodge  Provisional
36 97 Bobby Hamilton Jr./Nashville TN Nitroforce Industries Titan 1000 Dodge  Provisional
37 18 Bill Catania/Westfield NY Bill Catania Racing Ford  Provisional
38 88 Cole Powell/Mount Brydges Ontario Tricar Developments Ford  Provisional
39 00 Barry Fitzgerald/Sykesville MD ColonialBus-Roy's Body Shop-RAD Ford  Provisional
40 1 J.J. Pack/Bealeton VA Bugsy's Auto Ford  Provisional
     
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80 Russ Dugger/Owasso OK Gosselin-Finney Racing Chevrolet  
95 Cassie Gannis/Phoenix AZ ManCaveSite.org Dodge  
7 Tommy Barrett Jr./Millis MA Our Motorsports Chevrolet  
76 Andy Seuss/Salisbury NC O.B. Builders Chevrolet  
99 Brent Cross/Cortland NY Northeast Transformer Svc-Johnson Tool Chevrolet  
57 Bryan Dauzat/Concord NC O.B. Builders Chevrolet  
73 Dale Shearer/Chillicothe MO Shearer Racing Ford  
03 Raymond Hassler/Chattanooga TN Affarano Racing Chevrolet  
83 Derrick Lancaster/Christiansburg VA Total Car & Truck Service Chevrolet
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:50 pm

Roger Carter will be replacing Donnie Neuenberger.
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Post by Alta on Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:51 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Roger Carter will be replacing Donnie Neuenberger.
NOOOOOOOOOO I WANT NOBRAKESBERGER. Sad
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:19 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Roger Carter will be replacing Donnie Neuenberger.

Any reason given why this happened?
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:55 pm

The Blue Flag fell out of the flag stand for that caution Laughing
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Post by bsoyuz on Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:57 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
NeverNeutral wrote:Roger Carter will be replacing Donnie Neuenberger.

Any reason given why this happened?

Literally, I do think because Neuenberger was way too freaking slow (6 seconds). That car is only in the race because provisionals.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:11 pm

Apparently Neuenberger was sick.
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Post by Liam O'Brian on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:11 pm

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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:13 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Apparently Neuenberger was sick.

Ah okay, at least that's a somewhat understandable reason.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by Liam O'Brian on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:15 pm

This Kimmel ad is like having an ad with Dale Jr. in the 8 car.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:17 pm

3 car wreck.... and Gerhart is done!!!!!
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by bsoyuz on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:17 pm

> Looks at Leilani Munter's car.
> Enviromentalist
> Looks at Green Racing
> CEEJ CALLED IT 5 YEARS BEFORE IT HAPPENED

Anyway, NO MORE GERHART WINS LOL
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:17 pm

Lane Choice cost Gerhart the race!
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:18 pm

God damnit Leliani Sad I don't think she was very comfortable racing 3 wide like that, but at least she got Gerhart in that. Smile
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:22 pm

Yelp there goes the best looking car in the field.
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Re: Lucas Oil ARCA 200 @ Daytona

Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:27 pm

Holy crap the 1 car burst into flames. Shocked
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Post by Liam O'Brian on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:27 pm

Anyone if Gerhart is alright?
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Post by BWard on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:29 pm

Liam O'Brian wrote:Anyone if Gerhart is alright?

I think he's fine cos' he drove it back to the pits.
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