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Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Round 3 of 10 in the chase, and the first elimination round after this race, where 4 cars go packing, and get their old points back. Both Penske cars are on to the next round. Dover last time was a weird race, with part of the track coming off and hitting McMurray's car. Johnson won his 9th career race here at Dover. He's may be under-performing, but this is Johnson's track, just like Lowe's/Charlotte back in the day. Will Penske continue their hot streak? Or will a surprise winner like Allmendigner win? (A.J's really good here).

ENTRY LIST :
http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2014/story/_/page/29-Dover-2014-Entry-List


The Nationwide season also nears it's end, with a second race at Dover this year, Cuppies are back, but will Chase or another regular slay the giants? So no Gaughn repeat. Kyle won last time, braking a 4 race win streak by Logano, who is in the field as well. Milka Duno is likely going to start the race (This will end well eh?), since only 40 cars are on the entry list.

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http://www.jayski.com/news/nationwide/2014/story/_/page/NNS-2014-28-Dover-Entry-List

Trucks return to Las Vegas Motor Speedway in their yearly race, with a tight battle for the title, with Matt Crafton leading teammate Johnny Sauter by 7 points. Last time here, Timothy Peters won, usually this race has some not expected winners, like Piquet Junior, in 2012 and Peters last year. No Cuppies. Jones returns to the 51, Hornaday returns with NTS in the 9.

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by day500champ1 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:08 pm

This is the gauge for the 48 team. If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by racingfreak1999 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:25 pm

day500champ1 wrote:This is the gauge for the 48 team.  If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.
Pretty much, considering Dover is Johnson's playground.  Although I think he'll probably make the final four anyway (because Martinsville starts the 3rd round), but at this rate he won't beat the Penske cars.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by conrail1990 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:26 pm

I will be at the Nationwide race Saturday in Turn 1. Just look for the fat guy taking pictures lol
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by navycook75 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:35 pm

conrail1990 wrote:I will be at the Nationwide race Saturday in Turn 1. Just look for the fat guy taking pictures lol
You won't be hard to spot, seeing as how you'll probably be the only one there for the Nationwide race.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:39 pm

I tentatively have plans for the weekend. Will elaborate later.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Mother of Invention on Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:33 am

racingfreak1999 wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:This is the gauge for the 48 team.  If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.
Pretty much, considering Dover is Johnson's playground.  Although I think he'll probably make the final four anyway (because Martinsville starts the 3rd round), but at this rate he won't beat the Penske cars.

Or Goodyear could screw over Jimmie with random tire failures again. Razz
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by BooyakaDragon on Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:35 pm

I'm expecting a typical Dover borefest.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Lucstar88 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:17 pm

Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Alta on Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:44 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by vbooy57 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:01 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano
Great move. Penske looks unstoppable right now.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by BWard on Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:31 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano

I honestly think that it was the right time for a multi-year contract. I will admit that Logano this year is finally showing that he has what it takes to win races.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by conrail1990 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:10 pm

Dover announced that they are looking at demolishing some of their stands since they are just being used for ad space. Dale Jr also tweeted a picture of what looks like light pole bases around the track.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Alta on Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:38 pm

I honestly think Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.


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Post by day500champ1 on Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:39 am

Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Honestly, last year did it for me. Penske struggled last year in the switch to Ford. This year, they've learned and turned their equipment around.

Next year is going to be interesting to see who gets a handle the reduced horsepower.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Griff88 on Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:41 am

Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Ben Atkins on Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:22 pm

Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Lucstar88 on Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:32 pm

Timmy Hill's 2 seconds slower than Harvick. Also Milka Dunno is slow as well, even in her K&N East.



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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Alta on Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:50 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...
If i remember that correctly, Logano got in on the skin of his teeth.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Lucstar88 on Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:08 pm

Harvick wins pole for Dover. He has 7 poles this year. He had 6 in his whole career before 2014.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:29 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Harvick wins pole for Dover. He has 7 poles this year. He had 6 in his whole career before 2014.
In the last 12 months he got 8 poles. The rest of his career (12 and a half years) he had 5.

The last time someone who wasn't Harvick, Keselowski, or Gordon won pole, was Kyle Larson at Pocono, 8 races ago.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by crl on Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:25 am

Alta wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:
Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...
If i remember that correctly, Logano got in on the skin of his teeth.

Logano was one of those who directly benefited from the MWR shenanigans. He was out until Bowyer "spun".

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by PYLrulz on Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:19 am

Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by vbooy57 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:24 am

PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Magus978 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:40 am

vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by vbooy57 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:43 am

Magus978 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

Just remember friends...I don't forget, and I damn sure don't forgive. Razz
I'm not saying yours was an insult cause it clearly was not. I'd also not be so quick to just something by the FB page, who's to say Tommy Baldwin himself runs it? Could just be as easily some random public relations person.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Magus978 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:24 am

vbooy57 wrote:
Magus978 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

Just remember friends...I don't forget, and I damn sure don't forgive. Razz
I'm not saying yours was an insult cause it clearly was not. I'd also not be so quick to just something by the FB page, who's to say Tommy Baldwin himself runs it? Could just be as easily some random public relations person.

My point still stands. Very unprofessional from the whole organization. If someone was paying attention, they wouldn't have let that happen at all.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:24 am

Someone copy-paste the convo, Tom blocked me.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:41 am

Tom:
Glad to see more sponsors coming aboard the 7 and 36. I don't condone using the 37 (mostly) for start & park reasons. Get Dave Blaney back in there and run some more full races with him, especially Talladega. You may be pleasantly surprised

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Tom, you send a big check and then you can do whatever you want with the 37
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Post by vbooy57 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:46 am

Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Milka Duno DNQed for the Nationwide race again. Josh Reaume and the 87 team bought Mike Harmon's spot in the field after Reaume wrecked their only car.
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Post by Magus978 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:16 pm

lol Milka

Venezuela can sure pick'em, huh? Just give up, dear.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:49 pm

vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.

I guarantee that if was directed at you, you'd feel the same way Tom does right now. It wasn't directed at me, and I thought it was total bullshit the way they reacted. Doesn't matter if the team owner didn't know about it or not. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Alta on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:12 pm

vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Magus978 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:25 pm

Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

You have some nerve to say that. My comments were intended as the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying. To say that I took a holier than thou attitude towards them is completely ridiculous. There is no way that I should have been condemned for pretty much inquiring about what was going on there and making subtle suggestions. Others don't get attacked for it, so why the hell should I? No matter what you or anyone else would like to think, I ain't the bad guy here.

The whole damn thing has been blown out of proportion, it's over, and it's time to move the hell on. I shouldn't have said a damn thing about this anywhere because now the lot of you are forming opinions that are just completely the opposite of what I had intended, and now it's really starting to bother the hell out of me.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:35 pm

In other news, Kyle Busch won the nationwide race, but nobody cares
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:36 pm

Kyle Busch wins another Dover race, that's not Cup. Likely getting wrecked tomorrow and gets kicked out of the chase! Heard it from me first..


Chase with a great recovery.

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Alta on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:36 pm

I'll be honest i came in really late and didn't realize Vbooy pretty much wrote the same thing as me above. So yeah i miss posts like i miss words in my sentences from time-to-time

But yeah to repeat it's looking at it from the team's perspective and they probably get that type of criticism a lot.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Cynon on Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:44 pm

Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

Yup. Totally this. Especially when Tommy Baldwin apparently runs his own social media. It obviously warrants that kind of reaction. Rolling Eyes

I'm not going to lie, when I first heard that whole exchange, I kinda laughed, but not at Tom -- I laughed at the fact that it's an INCREDIBLY DOUCHEY thing to say back to some random ass guy on Facebook.

I wonder what Joe Gibbs's Facebook is like... wonder how many people are there bitching about Kyle Busch being in the 18 and how they should totally replace him with Brian Scott.

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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by conrail1990 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:14 pm

I'm Conrail the lobster tonight.
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:00 pm

conrail1990 wrote:I'm Conrail the lobster tonight.
I'll get the butter!
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:14 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Tom:
Glad to see more sponsors coming aboard the 7 and 36. I don't condone using the 37 (mostly) for start & park reasons. Get Dave Blaney back in there and run some more full races with him, especially Talladega. You may be pleasantly surprised

TBR:
Tom, you send a big check and then you can do whatever you want with the 37
Apart from a negative response, I don't see much wrong. Considering the fact that Cup has just been barely getting a full field, and the fact that the 36 doesn't have full-time sponsorship, throwing in a 3rd car to S&P is literally free money.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by PYLrulz on Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:21 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

Yup. Totally this. Especially when Tommy Baldwin apparently runs his own social media. It obviously warrants that kind of reaction. Rolling Eyes

I'm not going to lie, when I first heard that whole exchange, I kinda laughed, but not at Tom -- I laughed at the fact that it's an INCREDIBLY DOUCHEY thing to say back to some random ass guy on Facebook.

I wonder what Joe Gibbs's Facebook is like... wonder how many people are there bitching about Kyle Busch being in the 18 and how they should totally replace him with Brian Scott.

This.

It's probably a fact that Tommy Baldwin himself isn't the one typing up responses and such (and if that's the case, that just makes that worse).

There are times to be professional no matter who is typing the response. That's one of them. Yeah, I'm sure the "Don't S&P" message is said a bunch, but it still doesn't warrant that kind of response.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:40 pm

Kevin Harvick and Bad Brad have been the only cars out from. Kasey Kahne is in deep crap now, 29th and 2 laps down after pitting early.
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:20 pm

And the dominant car of the day of Harvick has a major issue. Looks like it might be another race where he's led the most and fails to win.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Michael29Shell on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Most disappointing race ever from a hype point.
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Post by BWard on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 pm

Good win Gordon, really boring race though.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 pm

This race sucked...........

Sad to see A.J miss it. GW Gordon
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:45 pm

Michael29Shell wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Most disappointing race ever from a hype point.
Richmond was more hype, and more disappointing. At least this race you knew it still would of sucked overall.
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Re: NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

Post by kensethfan on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:52 pm

Pretty meh race, but happy for Jeff Gordon. For the first time in years Jeff Gordon is championship material. And that's not even because of this asinine points system in place.
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