NASCAR Weekend at Dover and Las Vegas

by Lucstar88 Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Round 3 of 10 in the chase, and the first elimination round after this race, where 4 cars go packing, and get their old points back. Both Penske cars are on to the next round. Dover last time was a weird race, with part of the track coming off and hitting McMurray's car. Johnson won his 9th career race here at Dover. He's may be under-performing, but this is Johnson's track, just like Lowe's/Charlotte back in the day. Will Penske continue their hot streak? Or will a surprise winner like Allmendigner win? (A.J's really good here).

ENTRY LIST :
http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2014/story/_/page/29-Dover-2014-Entry-List

The Nationwide season also nears it's end, with a second race at Dover this year, Cuppies are back, but will Chase or another regular slay the giants? So no Gaughn repeat. Kyle won last time, braking a 4 race win streak by Logano, who is in the field as well. Milka Duno is likely going to start the race (This will end well eh?), since only 40 cars are on the entry list.

ENTRY LIST :
http://www.jayski.com/news/nationwide/2014/story/_/page/NNS-2014-28-Dover-Entry-List

Trucks return to Las Vegas Motor Speedway in their yearly race, with a tight battle for the title, with Matt Crafton leading teammate Johnny Sauter by 7 points. Last time here, Timothy Peters won, usually this race has some not expected winners, like Piquet Junior, in 2012 and Peters last year. No Cuppies. Jones returns to the 51, Hornaday returns with NTS in the 9.

ENTRY LIST :
http://www.jayski.com/news/campingworld/2014/story/_/page/2014cts17vegas-entry

by day500champ1 Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:08 pm

This is the gauge for the 48 team. If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.

by racingfreak1999 Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:25 pm

day500champ1 wrote:This is the gauge for the 48 team. If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.

Pretty much, considering Dover is Johnson's playground. Although I think he'll probably make the final four anyway (because Martinsville starts the 3rd round), but at this rate he won't beat the Penske cars.

by conrail1990 Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:26 pm

I will be at the Nationwide race Saturday in Turn 1. Just look for the fat guy taking pictures lol

by navycook75 Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:35 pm

conrail1990 wrote:I will be at the Nationwide race Saturday in Turn 1. Just look for the fat guy taking pictures lol

You won't be hard to spot, seeing as how you'll probably be the only one there for the Nationwide race.

by Backmarker Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:39 pm

I tentatively have plans for the weekend. Will elaborate later.

by Mother of Invention Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:33 am

racingfreak1999 wrote:
day500champ1 wrote:This is the gauge for the 48 team. If they are outpaced by the Penske cars and Harvick here, you can mark my words they won't be in the final four come Homestead.

Ultimately if someone wants to be in the final four they need to outpace or at least run with the Penske cars and Harvick.
Pretty much, considering Dover is Johnson's playground. Although I think he'll probably make the final four anyway (because Martinsville starts the 3rd round), but at this rate he won't beat the Penske cars.

Or Goodyear could screw over Jimmie with random tire failures again. Razz

by BooyakaDragon Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:35 pm

I'm expecting a typical Dover borefest.

by Lucstar88 Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:17 pm

Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano

by Alta Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:44 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano

-__-

by vbooy57 Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:01 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano

Great move. Penske looks unstoppable right now.

by BWard Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:31 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Joey Logano has signed a extension with Penske Racing for the foreseeable future.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/team-penske-extends-agreement-with-joey-logano

I honestly think that it was the right time for a multi-year contract. I will admit that Logano this year is finally showing that he has what it takes to win races.

by conrail1990 Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:10 pm

Dover announced that they are looking at demolishing some of their stands since they are just being used for ad space. Dale Jr also tweeted a picture of what looks like light pole bases around the track.

by Alta Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:38 pm

I honestly think Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

by day500champ1 Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:39 am

Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Honestly, last year did it for me. Penske struggled last year in the switch to Ford. This year, they've learned and turned their equipment around.

Next year is going to be interesting to see who gets a handle the reduced horsepower.

by Griff88 Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:41 am

Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

by **Ben Atkins** Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:22 pm

Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...

by Lucstar88 Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:32 pm

Timmy Hill's 2 seconds slower than Harvick. Also Milka Dunno is slow as well, even in her K&N East.

Quicken Loans Extends Relationship with RCR and Newman: Detroit-based Quicken Loans, the nation's second largest retail mortgage lender, announced it will return as a sponsor of Richard Childress Racing (RCR) in 2015, serving as a primary sponsor of driver Ryan Newman and the #31 Quicken Loans Chevy for selected races (was 12 races in 2012). The 2015 season will mark the fourth year Quicken Loans has teamed with Newman. "We're looking forward to partnering with RCR and Ryan in the upcoming season and continue this strong partnership," said Jay Farner, President and Chief Marketing Officer for Quicken Loans. "In the meantime, we'll be cheering on Ryan and the #31 team as they make a run in this year's Chase."
"It is great to have Quicken Loans back with me next year," said Newman. "They have been loyal partners for several years and have become like family to me. As I continue to push forward in the Chase, it gives me increased confidence to know I have partners and friends that are standing with me not only this year, but also beyond."
"Quicken Loans has been a tremendous addition to the RCR family this year," said Richard Childress, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of RCR. "We are excited to be so closely aligned to a partner that values collaboration, technology and speed as much as we do."(RCR)(9-26-2014)

by Alta Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:50 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...

If i remember that correctly, Logano got in on the skin of his teeth.

by Lucstar88 Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:08 pm

Harvick wins pole for Dover. He has 7 poles this year. He had 6 in his whole career before 2014.

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:29 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Harvick wins pole for Dover. He has 7 poles this year. He had 6 in his whole career before 2014.

In the last 12 months he got 8 poles. The rest of his career (12 and a half years) he had 5.

The last time someone who wasn't Harvick, Keselowski, or Gordon won pole, was Kyle Larson at Pocono, 8 races ago.

by **crl** Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:25 am

Alta wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:
Griff88 wrote:
Alta wrote:I honestly thing Logano's success is because the team he's with right now has the best equipment in the field. I think next year will really prove it for me if he's actually gotten good now.

Agreed. Logano is good because the team is good.

It will be interesting to see if Almirola can dig out of his little hole and move on to the next round.

People forget last year when Keselowski missed the chase and Logano didn't with the same team...
If i remember that correctly, Logano got in on the skin of his teeth.

Logano was one of those who directly benefited from the MWR shenanigans. He was out until Bowyer "spun".

by PYLrulz Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:19 am

Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR

by vbooy57 Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:24 am

PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR

They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

by Magus978 Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:40 am

vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

Just remember friends...I don't forget, and I damn sure don't forgive. Razz

by vbooy57 Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:43 am

Magus978 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

Just remember friends...I don't forget, and I damn sure don't forgive.

I'm not saying yours was an insult cause it clearly was not. I'd also not be so quick to just something by the FB page, who's to say Tommy Baldwin himself runs it? Could just be as easily some random public relations person.

by Magus978 Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:24 am

vbooy57 wrote:
Magus978 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:Check out how TBR replied to one of our own

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TBR.HBR/posts/10154617918755156

You stay classy TBR
They probably get tossed insults about start and parking often so they see it as hostile anytime its brought up. Still unprofessional no doubt but if viewed from that angle its at least understandable.

Thing is, that wasn't even an insult. They can get lost now. Karma is a motherf'er. They'll all get theirs. I encourage everyone to buy merchandise from teams that don't totally take a crap on their fans. Lost all respect for that piece of trash Tommy Baldwin.

Just remember friends...I don't forget, and I damn sure don't forgive.
I'm not saying yours was an insult cause it clearly was not. I'd also not be so quick to just something by the FB page, who's to say Tommy Baldwin himself runs it? Could just be as easily some random public relations person.

My point still stands. Very unprofessional from the whole organization. If someone was paying attention, they wouldn't have let that happen at all.

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:24 am

Someone copy-paste the convo, Tom blocked me.

by Backmarker Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:41 am

Tom:
Glad to see more sponsors coming aboard the 7 and 36. I don't condone using the 37 (mostly) for start & park reasons. Get Dave Blaney back in there and run some more full races with him, especially Talladega. You may be pleasantly surprised

TBR:
Tom, you send a big check and then you can do whatever you want with the 37

by vbooy57 Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:46 am

Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.

by Backmarker Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Milka Duno DNQed for the Nationwide race again. Josh Reaume and the 87 team bought Mike Harmon's spot in the field after Reaume wrecked their only car.

by Magus978 Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:16 pm

lol Milka

Venezuela can sure pick'em, huh? Just give up, dear.

by PackerMan71 Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:49 pm

vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.

I guarantee that if was directed at you, you'd feel the same way Tom does right now. It wasn't directed at me, and I thought it was total bullshit the way they reacted. Doesn't matter if the team owner didn't know about it or not. Ignorance is not an excuse.

by Alta Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:12 pm

vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.

This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

by Magus978 Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:25 pm

Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

You have some nerve to say that. My comments were intended as the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying. To say that I took a holier than thou attitude towards them is completely ridiculous. There is no way that I should have been condemned for pretty much inquiring about what was going on there and making subtle suggestions. Others don't get attacked for it, so why the hell should I? No matter what you or anyone else would like to think, I ain't the bad guy here.

The whole damn thing has been blown out of proportion, it's over, and it's time to move the hell on. I shouldn't have said a damn thing about this anywhere because now the lot of you are forming opinions that are just completely the opposite of what I had intended, and now it's really starting to bother the hell out of me.

by Memoriesallbutdone Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:35 pm

In other news, Kyle Busch won the nationwide race, but nobody cares

by Lucstar88 Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:36 pm

Kyle Busch wins another Dover race, that's not Cup. Likely getting wrecked tomorrow and gets kicked out of the chase! Heard it from me first..

Chase with a great recovery.

Can Trucks start already

by Alta Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:36 pm

I'll be honest i came in really late and didn't realize Vbooy pretty much wrote the same thing as me above. So yeah i miss posts like i miss words in my sentences from time-to-time

But yeah to repeat it's looking at it from the team's perspective and they probably get that type of criticism a lot.

by **Cynon** Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:44 pm

Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

Yup. Totally this. Especially when Tommy Baldwin apparently runs his own social media. It obviously warrants that kind of reaction. Rolling Eyes

I'm not going to lie, when I first heard that whole exchange, I kinda laughed, but not at Tom -- I laughed at the fact that it's an INCREDIBLY DOUCHEY thing to say back to some random ass guy on Facebook.

I wonder what Joe Gibbs's Facebook is like... wonder how many people are there bitching about Kyle Busch being in the 18 and how they should totally replace him with Brian Scott.

by conrail1990 Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:14 pm

I'm Conrail the lobster tonight.

by navycook75 Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:00 pm

conrail1990 wrote:I'm Conrail the lobster tonight.

I'll get the butter!

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:14 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Tom:
Glad to see more sponsors coming aboard the 7 and 36. I don't condone using the 37 (mostly) for start & park reasons. Get Dave Blaney back in there and run some more full races with him, especially Talladega. You may be pleasantly surprised

TBR:
Tom, you send a big check and then you can do whatever you want with the 37

Apart from a negative response, I don't see much wrong. Considering the fact that Cup has just been barely getting a full field, and the fact that the 36 doesn't have full-time sponsorship, throwing in a 3rd car to S&P is literally free money.

by PYLrulz Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:21 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Maybe its just cause it wasn't directed towards me but while I agree its unprofessional I can't say its worth condemning the team over.
This.

In all honestly telling a team that you don't "condone" something is a really "i'm above you" thing to say. Sure you can argue the team should've maintained professionalism but at the same time basically saying "oh you're a crappy start-n-park team and should do this" is a really crap thing to say to an underfunded team and an average person would probably have the same reaction if they were in TBR shoes.

It's interesting cause start-n-parking has been irrelevant as hell on the Cup side this year as it seems like all those lower teams that we've seen parked over the year have finally build up enough money to run full races.

Yup. Totally this. Especially when Tommy Baldwin apparently runs his own social media. It obviously warrants that kind of reaction.

I'm not going to lie, when I first heard that whole exchange, I kinda laughed, but not at Tom -- I laughed at the fact that it's an INCREDIBLY DOUCHEY thing to say back to some random ass guy on Facebook.

I wonder what Joe Gibbs's Facebook is like... wonder how many people are there bitching about Kyle Busch being in the 18 and how they should totally replace him with Brian Scott.

This.

It's probably a fact that Tommy Baldwin himself isn't the one typing up responses and such (and if that's the case, that just makes that worse).

There are times to be professional no matter who is typing the response. That's one of them. Yeah, I'm sure the "Don't S&P" message is said a bunch, but it still doesn't warrant that kind of response.

by Memoriesallbutdone Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:40 pm

Kevin Harvick and Bad Brad have been the only cars out from. Kasey Kahne is in deep crap now, 29th and 2 laps down after pitting early.

by Memoriesallbutdone Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:20 pm

And the dominant car of the day of Harvick has a major issue. Looks like it might be another race where he's led the most and fails to win.

by Michael29Shell Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Most disappointing race ever from a hype point.

by BWard Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 pm

Good win Gordon, really boring race though.

by Lucstar88 Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 pm

This race sucked...........

Sad to see A.J miss it. GW Gordon

by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:45 pm

Michael29Shell wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Most disappointing race ever from a hype point.

Richmond was more hype, and more disappointing. At least this race you knew it still would of sucked overall.

by gone-sovereign Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:52 pm

Pretty meh race, but happy for Jeff Gordon. For the first time in years Jeff Gordon is championship material. And that's not even because of this asinine points system in place.

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