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NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:51 pm

Hamlin's car went to R&D and had a problem with the Firewall block-off plates, from what i heard, gave them a HUGE aero advantage and a big safety hazard from what i'm reading.

The result, rumours are flying that it will be a P5 penalty, 75 points (Maybe?) which would drop Denny to 22nd, and Grubb will likely be gone ti'll Chicago.

What are your thoughts about the developing situation?
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by RyanB06 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm

It's been confirmed: P5 penalty; loss of 75 championship and owner points; six-race suspension for Darian Grubb.

http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2014/07/NASCAR-Penalizes-Denny-Hamlin-Team.aspx
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:59 pm

won't do much in the long run though. If he makes the chase that is.
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:10 pm

Maybe i didn't watch much of Indy but i hardly noticed him on track other than finishing 3rd.

The penalty only matters if the chase grid starts to spice with new winners and honestly i don't see that...So the penalty doesn't much matter when it comes to effecting their championship hopes.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:52 pm

Alta wrote:Maybe i didn't watch much of Indy but i hardly noticed him on track other than finishing 3rd.

The penalty only matters if the chase grid starts to spice with new winners and honestly i don't see that...So the penalty doesn't much matter when it comes to effecting their championship hopes.
If the fuel can didn't f*** up on their 2nd last pit stop, Hamlin would of probably won. Oh man imagine the storylines if he did win then get penalised.
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Post by Cynon on Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:38 pm

Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by kensethfan on Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:45 pm

Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by bsoyuz on Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:08 am

kensethfan wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.

I think that even the voices in France's head don't like him either.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by navycook75 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:26 am

kensethfan wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.
Brian France is said to be an alcoholic, so I'm guessing the fans he listens to are named Jack, Jim, Jose, and a Captain who goes by the name of Morgan.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by kensethfan on Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:35 am

navycook75 wrote:
kensethfan wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.
Brian France is said to be an alcoholic, so I'm guessing the fans he listens to are named Jack, Jim, Jose, and a Captain who goes by the name of Morgan.

What about Samuel?
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by navycook75 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:44 am

kensethfan wrote:
navycook75 wrote:
kensethfan wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.
Brian France is said to be an alcoholic, so I'm guessing the fans he listens to are named Jack, Jim, Jose, and a Captain who goes by the name of Morgan.

What about Samuel?
How could I forget him?
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by bigdc48 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:11 pm

Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Exactly my words.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:57 pm

bigdc48 wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Exactly my words.
My thoughts, as well. As far as JGR is concerned, Grubb and Sherrill's suspensions are the only penalties that the team has received.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by BooyakaDragon on Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:58 pm

If they want to make penalties matter, give a strike system or something like one of these.

1. 3 strike system, if a team gets caught cheating 3 times, they are DQ from the Chase.

2. For every penalty a driver gets, they lose their Chase spot each time they get one. That driver would have to win again.

It's extreme, but I see no other way outside of abandoning the system altogether.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by Pyrozooka0 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:00 pm

kensethfan wrote:
Cynon wrote:Penalty means nothing. He's in the chase.

Another reason why this Chase system is broken. I'm pretty sure the only "fans" Brian France is appeasing are the voices in his head.

I actually like the format of the Chase itself now, but the eligibility rules don't make much sense to me. What do they do if more than 16 different drivers win races?

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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by bsoyuz on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:03 pm

Pyrozooka0 wrote:
I actually like the format of the Chase itself now, but the eligibility rules don't make much sense to me. What do they do if more than 16 different drivers win races?

If more than 16 drivers happen to win, points position will be the decider.
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Re: NASCAR's penalty system may be actually working

Post by Pyrozooka0 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:23 pm

bsoyuz wrote:
Pyrozooka0 wrote:
I actually like the format of the Chase itself now, but the eligibility rules don't make much sense to me. What do they do if more than 16 different drivers win races?

If more than 16 drivers happen to win, points position will be the decider.

Oh. I had assumed it would either result in extra Chase drivers or someone getting screwed out of the chase

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