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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:43 am

It's been okay so far. I didn't really expect the first ever race to be the best race ever.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by crl on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:02 am

And that is why Nicolas Prost never made it to F1. What the FUCK was that?!

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:04 am

crl wrote:And that is why Nicolas Prost never made it to F1. What the FUCK was that?!

It certainly was a...spirited move.
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Post by BWard on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:09 am

crl wrote:And that is why Nicolas Prost never made it to F1. What the FUCK was that?!

So what happened? I didn't see it.
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Post by crl on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:13 am

BWardboy88 wrote:
crl wrote:And that is why Nicolas Prost never made it to F1. What the FUCK was that?!

So what happened? I didn't see it.

Heidfeld got alongside going into the last corner, and Prost turned into him, causing Nick to slide over the curb on the inside of the last turn, go upside down, damn near headfirst into the barrier. Heidfeld got out of the car, and ran right to Prost, but no fists flew. Di Grassi inherited the win.

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alta on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:14 am

BWardboy88 wrote:
crl wrote:And that is why Nicolas Prost never made it to F1. What the FUCK was that?!

So what happened? I didn't see it.
Heidfield made a last turn move on Prost for the win, Prost made a pretty ridiculous block, Heidfield went flipping in result
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:18 am

I still can't believe that happened.

That's one way to end the race, I guess you can say it was ELECTRIC.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by BWard on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:21 am

I've never seen a car flip like that before. But seriously, that was uncalled for, even if it was on the last lap.
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:38 am

Mini Drivers is going to have fun with this one.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by crl on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:41 am

navycook75 wrote:Mini Drivers is going to have fun with this one.

They would've had more fun if Heidfeld had beaten Prost's ass like he should've.

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alta on Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:22 am

Was a pretty tame race till the wild ending. I think for sure we will all continue to follow Formula E after that style of ending you only thought you would see in Nascar.

Prost's move proving what happens when you block/make aggressive moves in Open Wheel cars...disaster. Luckily Heidfeld got out of that okay as that was a bad hit at a bad angle.

Also was anyone else a tad bit bothered by the background music, it's a cool idea but i think they were going a little overboard on it.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:15 am

Not bad but what was with the bg music??
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:45 am

>First race of revolutionary new series that could shape the future of motoracing
>Catchfence death nearly happen.

Man, that would of been an electric start to the series.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by pepsibottle1 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:54 am

>yfw Chandok had fastest lap
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:41 am

I heard that the cars are so underpowered drivers can lap Donington without lifting and on full power the battery can last only up to 5 laps of Donington.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by bsoyuz on Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:09 am

I don't think the cars are meant to be really fast or powerful, and this is probably the reason that the races are meant to be on shorter tracks than F1 and lasts about 1 hour

7/10 - Would watch, IF WE HAD COVERAGE HERE.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:46 pm

Goodness, that was frightening! Prost is lucky that Heidfeld wasn't killed, much less hurt at all.

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:19 pm



Problem seems resolved rather quickly
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:05 pm

Milan655 wrote:

Problem seems resolved rather quickly
At least they resolved it and brushed it off instead of causing unnecessary drama.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by bigdc48 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:53 pm

Saw the race and it was good. Good way to kick off a new series. Reject of the race was hands down Nicolas Prost. That guy, IMO, shouldn't be in the series if you're gonna pull stupid crap like that. Glad Heidfeld was not hurt from that crash.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alpineopossum on Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:02 pm

Oh...I completely forgot they are co drivers at rebellion. Glad to see they settled it as adults. The race was good and I think this series might be going places. I was also pretty impressed with Frank Montagny's speed. Making it to the first race is probably the biggest hurdle because many doubted it could be feasible.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:29 pm

Initial thoughts:

- Underpowered cars mixed with chicane-ridden track made for a slow, sluggish race
- Still think many aspects (changing cars during pitstops, Twitter boost, background music, etc) are farcical
- Decent on-track competition

Overall, I wasn't really impressed. I realize that speeds will probably increase as the engines are developed further, but it's the FIA so don't expect anything breathtaking. It's hard to shake the feeling that I might as well have gone down to my local Family Fun Center and watched the go-karts.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by navycook75 on Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:38 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:Initial thoughts:

- Underpowered cars mixed with chicane-ridden track made for a slow, sluggish race
- Still think many aspects (changing cars during pitstops, Twitter boost, background music, etc) are farcical
- Decent on-track competition

Overall, I wasn't really impressed. I realize that speeds will probably increase as the engines are developed further, but it's the FIA so don't expect anything breathtaking. It's hard to shake the feeling that I might as well have gone down to my local Family Fun Center and watched the go-karts.
It's not a Twitter vote anymore, it's a vote from the Formula E site.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by crl on Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:08 am

Daniel Abt originally finished third, but got hit with a 57-second penalty (Why 57 seconds? Why not a minute?) for exceeding the allowed battery usage limit.

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:39 am

crl wrote:Daniel Abt originally finished third, but got hit with a 57-second penalty (Why 57 seconds? Why not a minute?) for exceeding the allowed battery usage limit.
Probably how long a pit lane drive through would take.
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Post by RealRacingRoots on Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:50 pm

crl wrote:Daniel Abt originally finished third, but got hit with a 57-second penalty (Why 57 seconds? Why not a minute?) for exceeding the allowed battery usage limit.

Abt went over the allotted amount of energy that he is allowed to use. Drivers are only allowed to use 28 kw during the race and Abt used like 28.2 kw during the race.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Dan Mackay on Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:33 pm

tldr

Square + chicanes and left turns = forever a bad track design
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by PYLrulz on Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:38 pm

navycook75 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:Initial thoughts:

- Underpowered cars mixed with chicane-ridden track made for a slow, sluggish race
- Still think many aspects (changing cars during pitstops, Twitter boost, background music, etc) are farcical
- Decent on-track competition

Overall, I wasn't really impressed. I realize that speeds will probably increase as the engines are developed further, but it's the FIA so don't expect anything breathtaking. It's hard to shake the feeling that I might as well have gone down to my local Family Fun Center and watched the go-karts.
It's not a Twitter vote anymore, it's a vote from the Formula E site.

Still stupid as fuck
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Ceej on Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:43 pm

Motorsport, in which people strap themselves to colorful steel and fiberglass contraptions and drive them around a track at high speeds, is farcical in and of itself.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Rykia on Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:44 pm

Unpopular opinion: I liked the backgtound music.

That was a scary wreck, glad to see that Heidfeld is okay. Congrats to Di Grassi on winning the first FE race.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Lucstar88 on Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:54 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_uWXUnvOHw
Formula E is using a shorter version of Monaco.

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:05 am

That's probably for the best, if they used the F1 circuit it would only lead to comparisons and that is not the point of Formula E.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:31 am

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:That's probably for the best, if they used the F1 circuit it would only lead to comparisons and that is not the point of Formula E.
Could of least used the other half instead though. The two best bits of Monaco are the hairpin and the tunnel, and they're skipping both.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:27 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
RetrogradeRenegade wrote:That's probably for the best, if they used the F1 circuit it would only lead to comparisons and that is not the point of Formula E.
Could of least used the other half instead though. The two best bits of Monaco are the hairpin and the tunnel, and they're skipping both.
Yeah, but that would require a very tight hairpin at Ste. Devote, and I'm not sure the cars have the turning radius to make it. The last thing Formula E needs is a face like that one race in China where the cars physically could not make one of the hairpins.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alpineopossum on Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:51 pm

Its probably a matter of logistics...the pits at Monaco are on the opposite end of the track then the Hairpin and the Tunnel.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by crl on Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:42 pm


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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Davidizer13 on Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:43 am

Matthew Brabham, last seen in Indy Lights, is replacing Charles Pic at Andretti Autosport for this weekend. Andretti's got a strong car, so if Montagny doesn't wipe him out like he almost did Pic, he'll do just fine. (And considering Pic's had history with Caterham, who is currently looking for a driver on the same weekend, speculate all you want on that.)

Anyway, predictions!

Top tier teams:

Audi Sport ABT - Even without the crash, both cars were running really well, and even if the long break's cooled their momentum, they're going to be pretty consistent performers if Abt can rein it in a bit to keep out of penalties.
Andretti - They're the leading team in the championship, and Montagny was a beast in Beijing. A mere driver change probably isn't going to slow them down.
Mahindra - I'm expecting them to be at full strength this race, seeing how Senna got bogged down in technical issues in qualifying, which led to his going out on the first lap last race. Chandhok isn't a slouch, either.

Mid-pack:
Dragon Racing - Pretty anonymous in Beijing, but both of their cars ended up in the points. Neither D'Ambrosio or Servia are that exciting on the track, but at least they're looking consistent.
Venturi - Nick Heidfeld was a pleasant surprise, at least until he was surprised himself... Since he's probably going to get the Fanboost out of sympathy, I'm hoping he's going to make a good showing, or at least one that's going to make up for his teammate.
e.dams - Despite starting very strong through testing, between Prost's penalty and Buemi's car troubles, they're looking very vulnerable. Unless Buemi can do something wonderful, I'm not seeing much coming out of them.
Virgin - Bird ended up on the podium through no fault of his own, and I doubt he'll be doing that again so soon. If last race was any indication, I'm expecting them to do a bit of gambling with their strategy.

Backmarkers:
China Racing - Piquet had some exciting overtakes, and that's about all they had going for them. Tung is a borderline liability.
Amlin Aguri - Sato saved their butts last time by ruining his own chances and having nothing left to lose, and now he's gone. Da Costa might turn things around, considering he's had great showings in other formulae.
Trulli GP - The only team finishing Beijing without any points. Which is why I voted for Trulli to get a boost. THE TRULLI TRAIN NEVER STOPS

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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alpineopossum on Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:13 pm

Malaysia Entry List

2 - Sam Bird (GBR) - Virgin Racing
3 - Jaime Algersuari (E) - Virgin Racing
5 - Karun Chandhok (IND) - Mahindra Racing Team
6 - Oriol Servia (E) - Dragon Racing
7 - Jerome d'Ambrosio (B) - Dragon Racing
8 - Nicolas Prost (F) - e.dams
9 - Sebastien Buemi (CHE) - e.dams
10 - Jarno Trulli (I) - Trulli GP (Drayson)
11 - Lucas di Grassi (BRA) - Audi Sport Abt
18 - Michaela Cerruti (I) - Trulli GP (Drayson)
21 - Bruno Senna (BRA) - Mahindra Racing Team
23 - Nick Heidfeld (D) - Venturi Formula E Team
27 - Franck Montagny (F) - Andretti Autosport
28 - Matthew Brabham (AUS/USA) - Andretti Autosport
30 - Stephane Sarrazin (F) - Venturi Formula E Team
55 - Antonio Felix da Costa (P) - Amlin Super Aguri
66 - Daniel Abt (D) - Audi Sport Abt
77 - Katherine Legge (GBR) - Amlin Super Aguri
88 - Ho Pin Tung (CHN) - China Racing
99 - Nelson Piquet Jr. (BRA) - China Racing

Antonio Felix da Costa replaces Fabio Leimar in the Amlin Super Aguri #55 (this is reflected on the entry list). The Entry List still has Charles Pic in the Andretti #28, but I saw an article saying Matthew Brabham was to be put in the car. Since the article was newer than the entry list I'll assume young Brabham is getting the nod.

The Putrajaya track looks more interesting than the rather square-ish one in Beijing. I honestly think the only thing the Beijing track has going for it (other than it hosting the first ever Formula E event which I guess will give it some future heritage) is the pretty impressive backdrop of the Olympic Park.

They also revealed the Miami layout. It has the loop around the American Airlines Arena (a place that as a Cavs fan I'd rather avoid but nevermind that) from the old Bicenntenial Park track. It'll be cool to see open wheel racing back in Miami.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Alta on Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:15 am

Round 2 goes to Sam Bird who won in dominating fashion. Quite a messy race though with a lot of a silly moves.  Senna with a hard hit on the final lap from 4th.

World feed went out on the start of the final lap forcing the American and apparently Indian to cut to ad brakes and at least on the America side forcing the finish to be tape delayed.

Pretty wild race.


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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by kensethfan on Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:20 am

Good win Sam Bird. Reject of the race would have to go to Montagny and Trulli both for their complete lack of spacial awareness. And furthermore to the guy at FOX Sports who decided it was a good idea to cut to commercial on the last lap. Or so I'm told. I was watching a global stream online, so luckily I did get to see the last lap.

Pretty messy race in all, and it might have gotten messier had the rain actually set in. That hairpin was asking for a Baltimore GP-style parking lot wreck, which almost happened with Nelson Piquet. Overall, the guy who designed this course should be taken into a dark room and be beaten. Very Happy
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Davidizer13 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:51 pm

Big news today: Jean-Eric Vergne, formerly of Toro Rosso, is going to be driving for Andretti this weekend in Uruguay. Good on him - he had a good finishing kick this season, and was splendid to watch in Singapore. This also seems to bode well for a potential future in Indycar, and further proves that Andretti's probably going to be using Formula E for driver development and assessment.

Additionally, the Battersea Park circuit in London passed a hurdle to be finalized, and there's talk of a double-header race there when it comes around in June. So far, it's looking like the best circuit on the series, unless Berlin can top it somehow.

And if that wasn't enough, there's also a test day post-race in Punta del Este, the first of two in-season tests. It's probably a little early to expect anything too radical regarding the constructors' arms race, especially with aero development so limited - my uneducated guess is that it'll just be for improving the car for the rest of the season.

Power rankings! In order:
Audi Sport ABT - Still one of the teams to beat. A solid performance by Di Grassi got undermined by Abt's incident forcing a disastrous change in strategy in Putrajaya, but both cars have been running very well so far.
Virgin - Once Bird got out in front, he dominated the race. Between that and Alguersueri's fastest lap, Virgin is on to something.
e.dams - Nice recovery from Beijing, a return to pre-season form. Even with Prost's penalties and Buemi's issues in qualifying, they both ended up in the top 5. All of a sudden, they're looking scary again.
Dragon Racing - Unspectacular, but consistent, and they've been qualifying well.
Andretti Autosport - Montagny got downgraded from "exciting to watch" to "road hazard," and Brabham showed his inexperience. JEV has shown that he's got chops when it comes to street circuits, so there's much to be expected from him.
Mahindra - Senna threw away a perfectly good finish, and Chandhok isn't quite enough to carry them both.
Venturi - What dumb move on Heidfeld is going to put him into the wall this time around? No great loss, though - neither driver did anything impressive in Putrajaya.
Amlin Aguri - Da Costa defied expectations, finishing in the points, so this could be the start of a turnaround.
China Racing - Garcia subs for Tung, who was at least surviving the race and ended up just out of the points. While it's been a long time since Garcia's been in open-wheel racing, he did well in pre-season testing.
Trulli GP - Cerruti was a victim of circumstance. Trulli brought all his mishaps on himself.

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Post by BWard on Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:56 pm

If anything, taking up the opportunity in Formula E after not being kept by Toro Rosso for 2015 is probably the best for Vergne. It at least gives home something to do besides F1.
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Post by Alta on Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:20 pm

I hear a theory that they're switching around drivers for Andretti so they can decide who gets the other Andretti car in Indycar.
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Post by bsoyuz on Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:25 pm

Alta wrote:I hear a theory that they're switching around drivers for Andretti so they can decide who gets the other Andretti car in Indycar.
This would be an actually possible theory, and I wouldn't doubt it.
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Post by Davidizer13 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:09 pm

Alta wrote:I hear a theory that they're switching around drivers for Andretti so they can decide who gets the other Andretti car in Indycar.
Pre-season, Andretti was talking like they were going to make one of their cars into a "showcase car," putting stars in it to draw attention to the series, which was one of the reasons Gil De Ferran and Scott Speed tested with them this summer. I guess this is what that concept evolved into. Looking at the FIA rulebook for the series, it says that any new driver can score championship points, so I guess they can change out drivers without limitations, unlike F1's limit of four per season.

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Post by BWard on Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:43 pm

Alta wrote:I hear a theory that they're switching around drivers for Andretti so they can decide who gets the other Andretti car in Indycar.

Hmmmm, Franck Montagny's the guy he's swapping with. So maybe either Vergne or Montagny to IndyCar with Andretti next year?
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Post by Alpineopossum on Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:25 pm

That may be right. Both Pic and Vergne have expressed interest in IndyCar and Montagny drove for Andretti last year at the Indy road course race.
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Re: The Formula E Thread

Post by Davidizer13 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:44 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
Hmmmm, Franck Montagny's the guy he's swapping with. So maybe either Vergne or Montagny to IndyCar with Andretti next year?
Actually, he'll be replacing Brabham this time around. Montagny's not going anywhere this season - Andretti's commited to him being their driver for the individual championship, as far as I can tell.

Meanwhile, Katherine Legge is out for Amlin Aguri this week, in favor of Salvador Duran. He won the 2007 24 Hours of Daytona, along with a few races in FR3.5 and A1GP, and was last seen in the NASCAR Toyota Series in 2012. Rather interesting choice, considering the gap since his last formula drive, but I suppose they see something I don't.

Speaking of driver changes, with all the shuffling going around in the teams, I can't help but think of A1GP. One of the complaints about it was the constant driver changes, without much consistency in the grid between races. While we aren't quite to that level by any stretch, the Fanboosts being based on drivers instead of teams causes even more trouble for teams who change, since someone like Duran's going to lack the backing a more consistent runner might have in the votes. The fact that FE has a driver championship, unlike A1GP, which might mitigate that, but a team further down the order would have nothing to lose from putting someone else in to drive. At the moment, FE's practically a winter series, running mostly off-schedule from the traditional series. If they decide to change that for the next season, that might be the end for Formula E, between drivers having commitments in bigger series and the bigger shows those series can put on - as a friend put it, it'll end up falling into GP2 levels of "don't care."

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Post by RyanB06 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:11 pm

Legge is only out because she's committed to Delta Wing testing this weekend. I wouldn't expect Duran to be in the car permanently.
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:48 pm

My only complaint about Salvador Duran is, I don't know if he'll be hungry like the wolf...

Also for that pun he gets my vote for the fanboost.
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