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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:36 pm

The Sprint Cup Series returns after a week off for short track racing at Richmond.

After being a major source of drama over the past week, Swan Racing is still currently listed as entered for this race. However, Cole Whitt's managers stated that as of Monday morning, he does not have a ride for the race, so one or both Swan cars may not show up.

On the other hand, despite their insistence that they would race this weekend, XXXtreme Motorsports is not on the entry list... perhaps RyanB was right about them being the Duke Nukem Forever of NASCAR.

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[th]Car#[/th][th]Driver[/th][th]Manu[/th][th]Sponsor[/th][th]Owner[/th][th]OwnerPointsRank[/th][th]Race Attempts[/th]
11Jamie McMurray Chevy McDonald'sFelix Sabates 208
22Brad Keselowski (PC2) Ford Detroit Genuine PartsRoger Penske 88
33Austin Dillon #Chevy DowRichard Childress 118
44Kevin Harvick Chevy Outback SteakhouseTony Stewart 228
55Kasey Kahne Chevy Farmers InsuranceLinda Hendrick 238
67Michael Annett #Chevy Pilot Flying JTommy Baldwin358
79Marcos Ambrose Ford Stanley/ACE/CMNRichard Petty 178
810Danica PatrickChevy GoDaddyTony Stewart 298
911Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx GroundJ D Gibbs 78
1013Casey Mears Chevy GEICO Bob Germain 218
1114Tony Stewart (PC3)Chevy Rush Truck CentersMargaret Haas 138
1215Clint Bowyer Toyota AAA Mid-AtlanticRob Kauffman168
1316Greg Biffle Ford ScotchJack Roush 128
1417Ricky Stenhouse Jr.Ford NationwideJohn Henry 258
1518Kyle Busch Toyota M&MsJoe Gibbs 68
1620Matt Kenseth (PC5) Toyota Home Depot HuskyJoe Gibbs 28
1722Joey Logano Ford Shell PennzoilWalter Czarnecki 98
1823Alex Bowman #Toyota Dr. Pepper Ron Devine 368
1924Jeff Gordon (PC6) Chevy Drive to End HungerRick Hendrick 18
2026Cole Whitt #Toyota TBAAnthony Marlowe348
2127Paul Menard Chevy Menards / CertainTeedRichard Childress 188
2230Parker Kligerman #Toyota TBABrandon Davis 428
2331Ryan Newman Chevy Quicken LoansRichard Childress 108
2432Travis KvapilFord Keen PartsFrank Stoddard Jr.388
2533David StremmeChevy Newton Building SuppliesJoe Falk 418
2634David Ragan Ford Taco BellBob Jenkins 338
2735David ReutimannFord MDS TransportJerry Freeze 468
2836Reed SorensonChevy TBAAllan Heinke 318
2938David Gilliland Ford Long John Silver'sBrad Jenkins 308
3040Landon Cassill(i) Chevy Hillman RacingMike Hillman 328
3141Kurt Busch (PC4) Chevy Haas AutomationGene Haas 268
3242Kyle Larson #Chevy Axe PeaceChip Ganassi 158
3343Aric Almirola Ford Smithfield FoodsRichard Petty 248
3447A.J. AllmendingerChevy Bush's Grllin BeansTad Geschickter 198
3548Jimmie Johnson (PC1) Chevy Kobalt ToolsJeff Gordon 58
3651Justin Allgaier #Chevy Brandt Professional AgricultureHarry Scott Jr.278
3755Brian VickersToyota Aaron's Dream Machine Michael Waltrip 148
3866Joe Nemechek (i) Toyota LandCastle Tit;leJay Robinson398
3977Dave Blaney FordTBARandy Humphrey476
4078Martin Truex Jr. Chevy Furniture RowBarney Vissar 288
4183Ryan Truex #Toyota VooDoo BBQ & GrillRon Devine 438
4288Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy National GuardRick Hendrick 48
4395Michael McDowell Ford LFRBob Leavine 446
4498Josh WiseChevy Phil Parsons RacingMike Curb 378
4599Carl Edwards Ford FordAlwaysRacingJack Roush 38
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by bsoyuz on Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:30 am

Aww. we're not goin' XXXXXXXXXXXXXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME this weekend.

If they really join a race wil be the last ones, because is taking forever, for me, is more easy the team to close, than actually join a race at this point.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by flyingturns89 on Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:21 pm

Cup qualifying has been rained out, which means that the starting grid will be set on first practice speeds. Rookie Kyle Larson will start first, with Brad Keselowski in second.

1 42 Kyle Larson # AXE Peace Chevy 2014 Owner Points 15th
2 2 Brad Keselowski (PC2) Detroit Genuine Parts Ford 2014 Owner Points 8th
3 15 Clint Bowyer AAA Insurance Toyota 2014 Owner Points 16th
4 5 Kasey Kahne Farmers Insurance Chevy 2014 Owner Points 23rd
5 4 Kevin Harvick Outback Steakhouse Chevy 2014 Owner Points 22nd
6 55 Brian Vickers Aaron's Dream Machine Toyota 2014 Owner Points 14th
7 1 Jamie McMurray McDonald's Chevy 2014 Owner Points 20th
8 83 Ryan Truex # VooDoo BBQ & Grill Toyota 2014 Owner Attempts
9 27 Paul Menard CertainTeed/Menards Chevy 2014 Owner Points 18th
10 48 Jimmie Johnson (PC1) Kobalt Tools Chevy 2014 Owner Points 5th
11 9 Marcos Ambrose Stanley/Ace/CMN Ford 2014 Owner Points 17th
12 20 Matt Kenseth (PC5) Home Depot Husky Toyota 2014 Owner Points 2nd
13 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. National Guard Chevy 2014 Owner Points 4th
14 47 A.J. Allmendinger Bush's Grillin' Beans Chevy 2014 Owner Points 19th
15 43 Aric Almirola Smithfield Ford 2014 Owner Points 24th
16 99 Carl Edwards FordAlwaysRacing.com Ford 2014 Owner Points 3rd
17 22 Joey Logano Shell Pennzoil Ford 2014 Owner Points 9th
18 31 Ryan Newman Quicken Loans Chevy 2014 Owner Points 10th
19 18 Kyle Busch M&M's Toyota 2014 Owner Points 6th
20 14 Tony Stewart (PC3) Rush Truck Centers/Mobil 1 Chevy 2014 Owner Points 13th
21 41 Kurt Busch (PC4) Haas Automation Chevy 2014 Owner Points 26th
22 78 Martin Truex Jr. Furniture Row Chevy 2014 Owner Points 28th
23 7 Michael Annett # Pilot/Flying J Chevy 2014 Owner Points 35th
24 23 Alex Bowman # Dr.Pepper Toyota 2014 Owner Points 36th
25 24 Jeff Gordon (PC6) Drive to End Hunger Chevy 2014 Owner Points 1st
26 16 Greg Biffle Scotch Ford 2014 Owner Points 12th
27 3 Austin Dillon # Dow Chevy 2014 Owner Points 11th
28 11 Denny Hamlin FedEx Ground Toyota 2014 Owner Points 7th
29 17 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Nationwide Ford 2014 Owner Points 25th
30 35 David Reutimann MDS Transport Ford 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 46th
31 51 Justin Allgaier # Brandt Professional Agriculture Chevy 2014 Owner Points 27th
32 32 Travis Kvapil Keen Parts Ford 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 38th
33 38 David Gilliland Long John Silver's Ford 2014 Owner Points 30th
34 13 Casey Mears GEICO Chevy 2014 Owner Points 21st
35 10 Danica Patrick GoDaddy Chevy 2014 Owner Points 29th
36 36 Reed Sorenson Chevy 2014 Owner Points 31st
37 34 David Ragan Taco Bell Ford 2014 Owner Points 33rd
38 33 David Stremme Newtown Building Supplies Chevy 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 41st
39 98 Josh Wise Phil Parsons Racing Chevy 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 37th
40 26 Cole Whitt # Scorpyd Toyota 2014 Owner Points 34th
41 66 Joe Nemechek (i) Virginia Farm Bureau Toyota 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 39th
42 30 J.J. Yeley (i) Phoenix Warehouse Chevy 2014 Owner Attempts 8 - 42nd
43 40 Landon Cassill(i) Atlantic Plumbing & Utilities Chevy 2014 Owner Points 32nd
DNQ 77 Dave Blaney FordAlwaysRacing.com Ford 2014 Owner Attempts 6 - 47th
DNQ 95 Michael McDowell Feavine Family Racing Ford 2014 Owner Attempts 6 - 44th
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by NeverNeutral on Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:05 pm

How the hell was Ryan Truex 8th fastest?
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:18 pm

bsoyuz wrote:Aww. we're not goin' XXXXXXXXXXXXXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME this weekend.

If they really join a race wil be the last ones, because is taking forever, for me, is more easy the team to close, than actually join a race at this point.
You we're saying. This race is now DOUBLE XXXXXXXXXXXXTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

EDIT: I just remembered the 26 is BK Racing.

THIS RACE IS STILL XXXXXXXXXXTTTTTTRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:25 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:How the hell was Ryan Truex 8th fastest?

Easy, people weren't looking for qualifying trim, just race trim.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:20 pm

That's not how you improve your reputation, Bowyer...
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:21 pm

Really Bowyer? Lap freaking 1?
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:07 pm

Nice fires tonight I see.
Why are all the media sites in love with Kyle Larson? What exactly has he done?
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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:22 pm

FlashRod4 wrote:Nice fires tonight I see.
Why are all the media sites in love with Kyle Larson? What exactly has he done?

Get spun from the starting on the pole on lap 1 in turn 1. Razz
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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:30 pm

Memoriesallbutdone wrote:
FlashRod4 wrote:Nice fires tonight I see.
Why are all the media sites in love with Kyle Larson? What exactly has he done?

Get spun from the starting on the pole on lap 1 in turn 1. Razz
So Nothing... Razz
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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:35 pm

What the hell type of tire did Goodyear bring??
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:36 pm

It's barbecue night tonight.
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:44 pm

It's barbecue night tonight.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:52 pm

Is it barbeque night tonight?
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:21 pm

XXXtreme kabooms.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:31 pm

Lelgano is gifted a win. What a last couple of laps!
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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:33 pm

Logano destroys both rear tires on the burnouts. Laughing
Great last couple of laps!
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:35 pm

ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)
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Post by FlashRod4 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:36 pm

WOAH! Ambrose just clocked Mears in the face! Shocked
Link to video: http://www.mobypicture.com/user/DL_Mackie/view/16836315


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Post by Memoriesallbutdone on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:41 pm

FlashRod4 wrote:WOAH! Ambrose just clocked Mears in the face! Shocked

Does this mean Mears is going to have a "dislocated jaw"?
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Post by day500champ1 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:45 pm

Honestly, best race of the year so far.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:47 pm

day500champ1 wrote:Honestly, best race of the year so far.

I don't know, California has a strong argument.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:48 pm

navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

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Post by navycook75 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:05 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

I'm not hating on him by all means, one of the cars I race with online is a Labonte JTG car and I've been a fan of him since 1998. I just accepted the fact he hasn't been as good as he once was.
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Post by Alta on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:13 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.
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Post by antknee on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:15 pm

Nice finish although Kes's impatience cost him the race and handed it to Logano. Cool burnout though!
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Post by Electric Wolf on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:18 pm

Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:23 pm

I love short track racing  Laughing 

Nice for Logano, great finish after a good race.

Ambrose punching Mears made me laugh so loud I think I accidentally woke my parents lol
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Post by Michael29Shell on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:41 pm

FlashRod4 wrote:WOAH! Ambrose just clocked Mears in the face! Shocked
Link to video: http://www.mobypicture.com/user/DL_Mackie/view/16836315



Better Quality...


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Post by crl on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:49 pm

FlashRod4 wrote:Nice fires tonight I see.
Why are all the media sites in love with Kyle Larson? What exactly has he done?
He finished second at Fontana last month, and he's a rookie. Chill.

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Post by PYLrulz on Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:54 am

Casey Mears...

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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:03 am

PYLrulz wrote:Casey Mears...


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Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:09 am

Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.

^ This and the fact that Labonte was fully capable of top-10s in the car from time to time just as Allmendinger has done. Of course I'm not trying to discredit the Dinger, 6th place in a JTG car is fantastic. However, comparatively speaking, his average finish in the car is still in the same neighborhood as Labonte's (though, admittedly, probably higher).
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Post by PYLrulz on Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:22 am

Sparkz47 wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.

^ This and the fact that Labonte was fully capable of top-10s in the car from time to time just as Allmendinger has done. Of course I'm not trying to discredit the Dinger, 6th place in a JTG car is fantastic. However, comparatively speaking, his average finish in the car is still in the same neighborhood as Labonte's (though, admittedly, probably higher).

Last year, Bobby Labonte averaged a 29.4 in Average Finish (though he did race one race with Finch, which was a last place finish at Michigan), finished in 21 of the 27 races he competed in for JTG, finished on the lead lap in 7 of them, and had no Top 10's

This year, AJ has averaged a 17.6 Average finish, finished every single race so far, finished on the lead lap 5 times, and already has 2 Top 10's
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Post by Alta on Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:26 am

Sparkz47 wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.

^ This and the fact that Labonte was fully capable of top-10s in the car from time to time just as Allmendinger has done. Of course I'm not trying to discredit the Dinger, 6th place in a JTG car is fantastic. However, comparatively speaking, his average finish in the car is still in the same neighborhood as Labonte's (though, admittedly, probably higher).
Allmendinger's average finish is in his first 9 races and that's not counting races he was in the top 15 and had something go wrong.

I'm sorry Labonte's washed up and i'm glad he realized it was time to hang it up. Hearing he might be an NBC commentator for Nationwide next year so we can look forward to that.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:08 am

He'd do that to nice guy Mears but not fuckface Murphy.

2nd year in a row both Toyota-sponsored races aren't won by Toyota.
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Post by Nascar9fan on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:36 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:He'd do that to nice guy Mears but not fuckface Murphy.

2nd year in a row both Toyota-sponsored races aren't won by Toyota.

He would have been in a lot of trouble if he punched Murph, especially after the balaclava fiasco
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Ben Atkins on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:59 am

That punch 10/10 would watch again.

Seriously, Ambrose has a career in boxing if he ever stops racing cars.

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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by BWard on Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:07 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:That punch 10/10 would watch again.

Seriously, Ambrose has a career in boxing if he ever stops racing cars.

Ambrose never gives no damn, he isn't the kind of guy you want to get into a fight with, because he will return the favour pretty heavily.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Pyrozooka0 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:53 pm

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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:40 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:That punch 10/10 would watch again.

Seriously, Ambrose has a career in boxing if he ever stops racing cars.

I was going to suggest MMA, but Marcos does seem more like a boxer now that I think of it.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:39 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:
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navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.

^ This and the fact that Labonte was fully capable of top-10s in the car from time to time just as Allmendinger has done. Of course I'm not trying to discredit the Dinger, 6th place in a JTG car is fantastic. However, comparatively speaking, his average finish in the car is still in the same neighborhood as Labonte's (though, admittedly, probably higher).

Last year, Bobby Labonte averaged a 29.4 in Average Finish (though he did race one race with Finch, which was a last place finish at Michigan), finished in 21 of the 27 races he competed in for JTG, finished on the lead lap in 7 of them, and had no Top 10's

This year, AJ has averaged a 17.6 Average finish, finished every single race so far, finished on the lead lap 5 times, and already has 2 Top 10's

Directly comparing someone's average finish out of twenty-eight races to someone else's out of nine races isn't at all fair. Also, Labonte's last full-season record (36 races) was 22.6. Respectable, I'd say, for such a middle-of-the road team.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:50 am

Sparkz47 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:
Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:ALLMENDINGER 6TH!!! I guess the problem with that team was the driver. (I say that and I'm a fan of Labonte)

Bobby was doing 20th AT BEST with that car, Allmendinger is getting the car into the top 15 even top 10 on a decent basis.

Alright race. Only really picked up at the end and an absolute awesome finish to end it off.

Ambrose with the STRAYA MATE on Casey Mears. That was some crazy stuff.

The only argument I could give for that is their new alliance with RCR has really helped them out performance-wise. I'm not trying to take away from Allmendinger, but Labonte wasn't terrible in the car in comparison.

^ This and the fact that Labonte was fully capable of top-10s in the car from time to time just as Allmendinger has done. Of course I'm not trying to discredit the Dinger, 6th place in a JTG car is fantastic. However, comparatively speaking, his average finish in the car is still in the same neighborhood as Labonte's (though, admittedly, probably higher).

Last year, Bobby Labonte averaged a 29.4 in Average Finish (though he did race one race with Finch, which was a last place finish at Michigan), finished in 21 of the 27 races he competed in for JTG, finished on the lead lap in 7 of them, and had no Top 10's

This year, AJ has averaged a 17.6 Average finish, finished every single race so far, finished on the lead lap 5 times, and already has 2 Top 10's

Directly comparing someone's average finish out of twenty-eight races to someone else's out of nine races isn't at all fair. Also, Labonte's last full-season record (36 races) was 22.6. Respectable, I'd say, for such a middle-of-the road team.
My (factual) opinion on this is Ambrose > Both of them. In terms of Labonte vs. Allmendinger, I've only looked at Labonte's first 18 races in the #47 (The same amount AJ has done), and apart from a top 5 from Labonte (AJ's best finish is 6th), I'm going to have to say Allmendinger.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by PackerMan71 on Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:04 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:So this just happened...

Chump change.
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Re: 2014 Toyota Owners 400- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Post by Nascar9fan on Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:25 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:So this just happened...

Of course the person trying to defend themselves gets the harsher punishment. It's stupid how people can wreck each other on track, but can't settle anything off track
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