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Post by bigdc48 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:39 pm

IndyCar's 2nd stop of the season at the Long Beach street circuit. Ryan Hunter-Reay is the polesitter, and is still leading so far. Graham Rahal decides to be a wrecking ball on the first restart of the race.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:40 pm

No action against Will Power? I'm starting to think Cynon is right about the officials love for Penske...

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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:41 pm

Graham fucking Rahal. No
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Post by JMac525 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:45 pm

Man, Bourdais is having an awful day.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:47 pm

Again with these no-calls. GET BARNHART OUT OF THE SERIES!  Mad


EDIT: Nevermind. They just penalized Rahal. Good.


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Post by Alta on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:47 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:No action against Will Power? I'm starting to think Cynon is right about the officials love for Penske...
It looked like a racing deal to me. Power was going for the spot and Pagenaud closed the door.

Sucks these two are wrecking my fantasy Indycar stuff though. >Neutral
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Post by RealRacingRoots on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:49 pm



I'm starting to think Will Power wasn't talking about Tags, but rather himself in this video....
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Post by Casey Lester on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:52 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:No action against Will Power? I'm starting to think Cynon is right about the officials love for Penske...

This, yet Ganassi gets the same exact treatment.
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Post by crl on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Oh, Josef...

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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Good win, Will Power.

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Post by navycook75 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:08 pm

Both Hinch and Newgarden involved, I'm going to go cry now.
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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:10 pm

Well, that escalated quickly.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:12 pm

Huh. 2nd week in a row Will Power might win a race when he really should have got a penalty.

Great.

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Re: Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - IndyCar

Post by Cynon on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:12 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:No action against Will Power? I'm starting to think Cynon is right about the officials love for Penske...

Been watching this for 20 years. Hard to miss Penske avoiding penalties -- even when Penske cars wrecked each other. There's a reason why I test how long people have been watching Indycar by asking them what they think of Roger Penske...

Guess if your name is Will Power you can wreck anyone you want to get the win.

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Re: Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - IndyCar

Post by Alta on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:16 pm

Brainless move by Hunter-Reay. You could've easily waited two turns to actually make the move.
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Post by JMac525 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:17 pm

Well this sucks. Hopefully Conway can put a good fight.
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Post by Cynon on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:19 pm

Alta wrote:Brainless move by Hunter-Reay. You could've easily waited two turns to actually make the move.

He had a wheel on Newgarden, but that's not really a smart place to make a move. Looked like the RHR of 3 years ago.

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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:21 pm

Alta wrote:Brainless move by Hunter-Reay. You could've easily waited two turns to actually make the move.

He could've used better judgement there. Newgarden was on cold tires, while Reay's were up to temp, so he could've waited a couple of turns to make the move. I guess because Hinch and Power were breathing down his back, he had to make the move quickly, and decided to try it in turn 4, and you see the results.
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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:25 pm

Dixon, you're kidding right?
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Post by f1fan12 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:25 pm

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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:26 pm

Another driver punted off the track from another driver's poor judgement. Did these drivers left their brains at the hotel today or something?

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Post by f1fan12 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:28 pm

OH RAHAL!
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:29 pm

f1fan12 wrote:

Pretty much.

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Re: Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - IndyCar

Post by Alta on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:30 pm

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:Brainless move by Hunter-Reay. You could've easily waited two turns to actually make the move.

He had a wheel on Newgarden, but that's not really a smart place to make a move. Looked like the RHR of 3 years ago.
Narrowest part of the course, There's no reason to pull that.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:31 pm

No penalty for Dixon for doorslamming Wilson. Bullshit.
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Post by BWard on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:33 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:No penalty for Dixon for doorslamming Wilson. Bullshit.

It's favouritism for Ganassi from Officials.
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Post by Cynon on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:41 pm

Watch that one with Dixon and Wilson again.

Wilson makes a move on the outside, and turns into Dixon first. How is that Dixon's fault? It was a pretty hopeless move...

... and that's why that one hurt, as a Coyne fanboy.

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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:47 pm

Glad to see Conway win, as well as Munoz, Montoya, and Pagenaud round out the top 5.

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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:50 pm

Cynon wrote:Watch that one with Dixon and Wilson again.

Wilson makes a move on the outside, and turns into Dixon first. How is that Dixon's fault? It was a pretty hopeless move...

... and that's why that one hurt, as a Coyne fanboy.

Pretty irrelevant now though, since Dixon didn't make it on fuel anyway.  Laughing

Pretty good race, although the officiating left much to be desired (I'm looking at you, Barnhart.) The Trulli train at the end certainly made the end of the race very interesting indeed. A lot of shenanigans near the end with Hunter-Reay and Dixon, and Conway stealing a win at Long Beach. (sigh) Long Beach, one of my favorite street courses, and today's a good reason why.

The 2014 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach gets an impressive 8.0/10.


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Post by JMac525 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:51 pm

Go Mike and ECR! Well, that makes me quite happy.
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Post by Alta on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:09 pm

Pretty Nutty race. Lots of chaos throughout
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:20 pm

Really glad Mike Conway stuck it to Will Power, awesome win for him. Looks like Ed Carpenter Racing's going to have a great year - I don't think this race counted towards Conway's quota of 1 weekend of being absolutely unstoppable.  Razz 

Also, how about that Simon Pagenaud? He rallied back to 5th and called Power out on his crap on air. He gets mad props from me for that.
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Post by f1fan12 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:22 pm

I have a question, why is everyone pointing their finger at Barnhart. Last I checked, Beaux Barfield is in charge of officiating, and all decisions are made on a vote of 3 people. (Barfield, Barnhart, and I believe the ex-racing driver of the week) Am I missing something?
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Post by crl on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:26 pm

Johnny Unser was the other steward for the second straight race.

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Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:16 pm

Good to see IndyCar back to form, even if the officiating was a bit off. Though I will say, Power's move may have been pretty ambitious, but he did have a run up so it's understandable why he would go for it. And as for Wilson, did he really think he was going to make that pass on the outside?
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Post by GamerAzuzu on Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:58 pm

Seeing Graham Rahal spin it in front of me at the hairpin and stalling it made my week.
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Post by Alta on Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:01 pm

f1fan12 wrote:I have a question, why is everyone pointing their finger at Barnhart. Last I checked, Beaux Barfield is in charge of officiating, and all decisions are made on a vote of 3 people. (Barfield, Barnhart, and I believe the ex-racing driver of the week) Am I missing something?
Barnhart has his own gravitational stupidity pull...If such thing even exists.
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Post by Alpineopossum on Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:53 pm

Pre-2010 Ryan Hunter-Reay just resurfaced.

Great win for Conway, heartbreaker for Dixon. It's good to see a small team like Ed Carpenter Racing have success.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:19 am

Sparkz47 wrote:Though I will say, Power's move may have been pretty ambitious, but he did have a run up so it's understandable why he would go for it.

That's pretty much the same train of thought Ryan Hunter-Reay had when he took out Newgarden. Though at least RHR could get mostly alongside Newgarden.
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Post by Cynon on Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:04 am

GamerAzuzu wrote:Seeing Graham Rahal spin it in front of me at the hairpin and stalling it made my week.

Yeah. Was told Aleshin might have had a hand in it -- but the fact that he didn't makes it doubly pathetic. You know it's a bad year for the National Guard when Dale Jr. ISN'T their worst driver...

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Post by racingfreak1999 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:11 pm

Cynon wrote:
GamerAzuzu wrote:Seeing Graham Rahal spin it in front of me at the hairpin and stalling it made my week.

Yeah. Was told Aleshin might have had a hand in it -- but the fact that he didn't makes it doubly pathetic. You know it's a bad year for the National Guard when Dale Jr. ISN'T their worst driver...
Implying JR Hildebrand wasn't terrible.
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Post by GamerAzuzu on Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Cynon wrote:
GamerAzuzu wrote:Seeing Graham Rahal spin it in front of me at the hairpin and stalling it made my week.

Yeah. Was told Aleshin might have had a hand in it -- but the fact that he didn't makes it doubly pathetic. You know it's a bad year for the National Guard when Dale Jr. ISN'T their worst driver...

When Graham Rahal is driving for you it's pretty much that by default
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