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Post by RealRacer4 Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:41 pm

The newly formed TUDOR series had their qualifying session today at Daytona to set the starting grid for the 24 hour race. The line-up: not what I was expecting to see.

Alex Gurney, in the Corvette DP, qualified on the pole for the race. The fastest timed LMP car? 10th place, which will be driven by Graf, Luhr, and Brundle in the Muscle Milk Nissan Oreca entry. What also surprised me was how some of the PC cars managed to time better than the regular Prototype cars. And of course, for those that are curious as to where the Delta Wing qualified, it qualified 7th. Yup. That's right. It out-qualified more than half of the of the regular prototype cars and was only a second off the pole.

Now, I usually don't follow sports car racing very closely, but I remembered when the Delta Wing was first raced, it was designed with less power than a lot of the cars it raced against and was going for efficiency in fuel mileage and reduce the number of pit stops to get ahead of the field. Whatever the engineers did with the Delta Wing over the last couple of years, they definitely have done well enough to keep up with a lot of the fast cars without losing whatever fuel mileage it has.

Either way, it should make quite an interesting race. I'm glad this merger finally happened with Grand-Am and ALMS, as I'm curious to see with how the whole race throughout as far as how long the DP cars will do in the long run with the modifications, how the Delta Wing will fare against the field, etc.

Also, there were 3 cars that had their qualifying times disallowed. The 78 Dinan Riley DP had ride height issues, as well as an unapproved part. 2 of the Audi R8 GTD cars (46, 48) had ride height issues and unapproved parts as well.


[url=http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/files/race_result_files/TUDOR Daytona Grid Provisional.pdf]http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/files/race_result_files/TUDOR%20Daytona%20Grid%20Provisional.pdf[/url]

EDIT: This link leads to the entire line-up, but for some reason, the link that's popping up on the actual post is being a pain.  Neutral

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Post by RACECAR Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:45 pm

Can't say I'm too surprised about the result, The DPs have had years of notes from this track so naturally the teams fielding these cars had an unfair advantage to start with. Don't be surprised if the opposite happens at Sebring for the exact same reason.
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Post by Dan Mackay Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:57 am

Mazda plz stop
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Post by RACECAR Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:21 pm

I would say "Go away Mazda, no one likes you anymore", but I think they would easily have more fans if they had those screaming rotaries back.
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Post by Alpineopossum Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:09 pm

Honestly that Mazda team strikes me as better funded than most of the other prototype teams, they have an all pro full time lineup, and they have a pair of IndyCar drivers as relief drivers. So this result is very embarrassing. By the way "Skyactiv Technology" is just a marketing exercise.

GTLM will be fun to watch. I'm pulling for Porsche but the vipers will be very hard to beat.
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Post by f1fan12 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:01 pm

HORRIFYING CRASH!
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Post by RealRacer4 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:04 pm

Holy crap. That was a scary wreck. Praying that both drivers are okay.

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Post by Alta Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:11 pm

That is fucking nasty.
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Post by navycook75 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:22 pm

That was a hard hit. I hope he's ok.
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Post by BWard Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:24 pm

Worst possible timing for that to occur. Wishing Gidley a speedy recovery.
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Post by Liam O'Brian Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:28 pm

Sent straight to the hospital, skipped the Infield Care Center. This is serious.
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Post by Liam O'Brian Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Taking a break for the night... I need to decompress
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Post by navycook75 Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:00 pm

According to some sources, Memo Gidley is conscious at the hospital.

Good news.
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Post by Alpineopossum Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:11 pm

Really scary. It's like he didn't see the Ferrari at all. I hope Memo's alright.
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Post by Mystrsyko Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:14 pm

Holy crap, I miss the first 3 hours of the race and come home to find a driver possibly fighting for his life. Shit, we don't need this after Le Mans last year Crying or Very sad 

A german motorsports page I ran through google translate said it took 18 minutes to extract Memo. That is an eternity. The cockpit must have been seriously compromised
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Post by Alpineopossum Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:19 pm

For those of you who's cable providers are a$$holes that won't let you stream video (I'm looking at you WOW), there's a feed from Magnus Racing. It doesn't show the racing action but it will tell you what's happening. There was a very interesting talk with EJ Viso about an hour ago.

Here it is:
http://www.ustream.tv/liveatdaytona
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Post by Milan655 Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:27 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:Really scary. It's like he didn't see the Ferrari at all. I hope Memo's alright.

It looked like he was blind sighted by a GT car in front of him
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Post by RealRacer4 Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:29 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:Holy crap, I miss the first 3 hours of the race and come home to find a driver possibly fighting for his life. Shit, we don't need this after Le Mans last year Crying or Very sad 

A german motorsports page I ran through google translate said it took 18 minutes to extract Memo. That is an eternity. The cockpit must have been seriously compromised

It was compromised alright.

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Post by Electric Wolf Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:03 pm



Holy crap. I've heard that Gidley might have some leg injuries, but he's awake and alert at a local hospital.
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Post by flyingturns89 Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:06 am

According to the Bob Stallings GAINSCO Racing crew, driver Memo Gidley underwent successful surgery on his left arm and left leg and is resting comfortably.
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Post by navycook75 Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:55 am

Watching a stream of the race with MRN commentary on one end and a Magnus Racing stream on another.

This is a reason why I love days like today.
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Post by flyingturns89 Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:14 am

Straight from the TUDOR Championship Facebook page:


Memo Gidley, driver of the No. 99 GAINSCO / Bob Stallings Racing Corvette DP, underwent surgical procedures on both his left arm and left leg at Halifax Health in Daytona Beach, Florida. Gidley also has an unstable fracture in his back which will require additional surgery before he can be released from the hospital. He continues to be evaluated.

Matteo Malucelli, driver of the No. 62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 458 Italia, remained at Halifax Health overnight for further evaluation. He continues to rest comfortably. An update on his condition will be provided later today.
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Post by Metro 6r4 Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:39 am

Here's a few other angles of it:

Surprisingly similar to the crash that claimed Ignazio Giunti's life, I'd prefer it if we didn't have another 2013 on our hands.
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Post by Alpineopossum Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:54 am

I have to wonder if Wayne Taylor & Co. can pull it off this time. Although Wayne has a tendency to wine about things, his sons aren't that way and after all a Taylor is a Taylor.

I should mention that the last time there were three South Africans (or in Jordan and Ricky's case, Americans of South African heritage) were in the same car it was 1984, the drivers were Sarel van der Merwe, Graham Duxbury, and Tony Martin. They finished first in the Kreepy Krauly Porsche. The name was a South African pool cleaning product. Sarel isn't remembered much today, but he was a versatile driver, winning in rallying and in sports cars. He also attempted the Daytona 500 in 1988 for Rick Hendrick. He was quick but had bad luck in the Duels and DNQ'd. He later ran as a road course ringer for Hendrick, and I believe he is the only driver from South Africa to start a NASCAR Cup race. He's still pretty famous in South Africa. His facebook page shows him with his arm around a lion, so he's a pretty cool guy. But I digress. This could be a great year for WTR. Never, ever count out Max the Ax.

Ganassi is never out of it either. What surprises me is that the Oak Racing #42 isn't more of a factor. Did they run into trouble?
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Post by RACECAR Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:42 pm

First race of this new series and we have a battle in all four classes for the win. If this is the kind of action we are gonna get this season, then bring it the hell on. 2014 Rolex 24 at Daytona 4276145973 
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Post by RealRacer4 Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:55 pm

That most recent caution was absolutely unnecessary.

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Post by f1fan12 Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:06 pm

BS Caution just to get a good finish!

Come on #5!
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Post by bigdc48 Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:19 pm

What a great finish. The #5 team deserved it but I was rooting for Max the Ax to get it done for the #10 team. And there was no contact between the Ferrari and the Audi. Just hard racing. How can they call that avoidable contact?
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:21 pm

The Ferrari's were weapons in that last run. 555 should not have got a penalty for the last lap, though...

However, he SHOULD have got a penalty for the contact in the bus stop a few laps earlier. In the end of the day, it's karma.

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Post by PackerMan71 Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:25 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:The Ferrari's were weapons in that last run. 555 should not have got a penalty for the last lap, though...

However, he SHOULD have got a penalty for the contact in the bus stop a few laps earlier. In the end of the day, it's karma.

Still doesn't mean it was the correct call, though, but whatever. It is what it is.
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Post by Alta Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:46 pm

The last caution was BS, But we wouldn't have got what we got with had it not come out.

Hell of a finish and a nice race. Action Express thoroughly dominated and deserved that win.

555 team deserved the penalty after the contact in the bus stop, Sure there was no contact in the last turn incident but it's more of Karmic Retribution.  

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:51 pm

PackerMan71 wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:The Ferrari's were weapons in that last run. 555 should not have got a penalty for the last lap, though...

However, he SHOULD have got a penalty for the contact in the bus stop a few laps earlier. In the end of the day, it's karma.

Still doesn't mean it was the correct call, though, but whatever. It is what it is.

I didn't say it was the correct call. The correct call would have been to call them out for the contact in the bus stop, in my opinion. Like Alta said, it's karmic retribution.

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Post by gone-sovereign Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:06 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:Surprisingly similar to the crash that claimed Ignazio Giunti's life, I'd prefer it if we didn't have another 2013 on our hands.

I hate to say it, but when I first saw that wreck, that's exactly what I was thinking. Luckily, both drivers are fine, but if I'm not mistaken I think Gidley has a broken back?

I didn't watch all that much of this race, but I tuned in for the finish. Not sure what was going on with the caution, but that time penalty in my opinion was kind of bullshit...
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Post by Alta Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:28 pm

Apparently the penalty was for the bus stop contact.
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Post by navycook75 Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Overall the race was pretty good.

But thanks to Magnus Racing I'm going to have David Hasselhoff burned into my mind, but I now have respect for SHANEVANGISBERGEN. (He still has to answer my question about which kind of soup he likes.)

I'm also glad Memo Gidley is alive, and I hope he recovers.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:15 pm

Alta wrote:Apparently the penalty was for the bus stop contact.

Well in that case, the 555's penalty was well deserved. Great call by the officials.

EDIT: Jenna Fryer ‏@JennaFryer 1m
Decision reversed. Ferrari is the winner.

Bullshit.

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Post by RACECAR Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:50 pm

The one problem with the penalty though was that they didn't immediately send it out, they waited until after the race ended to through it out (basically, they pulled a FIA on them). If they would have done that before the last lap, then it wouldn't be as bad a problem.

Also, I really want to punch the guy that screwed up the GTLM battle. He should have watched where the hell he was going.
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Post by crl Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:11 am

RACECAR wrote:The one problem with the penalty though was that they didn't immediately send it out, they waited until after the race ended to through it out (basically, they pulled a FIA on them). If they would have done that before the last lap, then it wouldn't be as bad a problem.

Also, I really want to punch the guy that screwed up the GTLM battle. He should have watched where the hell he was going.
I, too, am wondering if Hand had a talk with that guy.

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Post by Alta Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:37 am

Great going IMSA. Idiots.
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Post by Alta Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:23 pm

Jesus, this wreck still looks gruesome days later.

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Post by RealRacer4 Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:22 pm

Alta wrote:Jesus, this wreck still looks gruesome days later.

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It honestly frightens me how bad the chassis looked after the wreck. And they weren't going that fast compared to when they were on the oval part of the track. I know a lot of race chassis built today need to disintegrate to absorb some of the impact but I think that's a bit much.

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Post by Alta Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:15 am

The DP's are relatively untested in huge wrecks. I can only remember two big smashes off the top of my head with a DP. One being Long Beach in 2006 and Scott Preutt's pit wall wreck at New Jersey a few years back.
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Post by flyingturns89 Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:00 am

Alta wrote:The DP's are relatively untested in huge wrecks. I can only remember two big smashes off the top of my head with a DP. One being Long Beach in 2006 and Scott Preutt's pit wall wreck at New Jersey a few years back.

There were two very bad wrecks during DP testing this year. Action Express and Spirit of Daytona both had cars go airborne and flip.
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Post by Alta Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:17 am

flyingturns89 wrote:
Alta wrote:The DP's are relatively untested in huge wrecks. I can only remember two big smashes off the top of my head with a DP. One being Long Beach in 2006 and Scott Preutt's pit wall wreck at New Jersey a few years back.

There were two very bad wrecks during DP testing this year. Action Express and Spirit of Daytona both had cars go airborne and flip.
As crazy as the cars getting up in the air was, they didn't seem to share the violence that all three of the previous heavy smashes had.
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