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Post by navycook75 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:34 am

Alta wrote:That Kalisto spot was insane.
I went back and watched the match and holy fuck that was brutal.

Also Xavier basically saying "Fuck it, it's no DQ" and throwing the trombone was hilarious.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:06 am

RAW Spoilers:
And just like that, Roman's the Champ to big applause. Only took them 11 months to figure out that when you book a bit angry badass like a big angry badass, people get behind him...

Still pretty crazy how the Philly crowd turned around on him, though. II still don't think he's The Guy, but he does have momentum. Let's see how it goes.
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Post by navycook75 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:11 pm

Spoiler:
So the Royal Rumble match will be for the WHC

ugh
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Post by Lucstar88 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:17 pm

Spoiler:
Only saving grace is. Rumble should be LOADED. Brock, Cena, *INSERT SPOILER HERE*.
If Roman won though. Idk.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by bsoyuz on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:33 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:
Spoiler:
Only saving grace is. Rumble should be LOADED. Brock, Cena, *INSERT SPOILER HERE*.
If Roman won though. Idk.
Spoiler:

Do not worry, he probably won't. This is just a setup for his match with HHH.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:34 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:
Spoiler:
Only saving grace is. Rumble should be LOADED. Brock, Cena, *INSERT SPOILER HERE*.
If Roman won though. Idk.
Spoiler:
Thinking about it, Roman can still lose, then cash in his rematch clause for Mania.

If that's the case, it might end up being Lesnar or Cena beating him, probably by luck so Roman can still look strong.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Alta on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:42 pm

Speaking of the WWE, it sounds like they've picked up 4 of New Japans wrestlers including 2 of it's biggest stars.

AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows are all rumored to be the WWE bound.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:28 am

Alta wrote:Speaking of the WWE, it sounds like they've picked up 4 of New Japans wrestlers including 2 of it's biggest stars.

AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows are all rumored to be the WWE bound.
According to Big Dave, Nakamura and AJ were doing the Rumble, but Nakemura wants to go to NXT to learn the style. So maybe AJ maybe main roster straight away or do a small NXT program ala Kevin Owens.

Can't wait until Baron Corbin yells at Shinsuke to go back to China

"YOU SHOULD OF STAYED IN ALL JAPAN"
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by bsoyuz on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:34 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Alta wrote:Speaking of the WWE, it sounds like they've picked up 4 of New Japans wrestlers including 2 of it's biggest stars.

AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows are all rumored to be the WWE bound.
According to Big Dave, Nakamura and AJ were doing the Rumble, but Nakemura wants to go to NXT to learn the style. So maybe AJ maybe main roster straight away or do a small NXT program ala Kevin Owens.

Can't wait until Baron Corbin yells at Shinsuke to go back to China

"YOU SHOULD OF STAYED IN ALL JAPAN"

Also, sorry if people are getting spoiled, but
Spoiler:
The Bullet Club turned on AJ, and Kenny Omega may be Nakamura's Intercontinental Title challenger
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:14 am

So Cena is injured.

These truly are dark times.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:50 pm

Spoiler:
del Rio regained the US title on Smackdown. god fucking damn it.

I really hope this leads to a title match at Royal Rumble.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NeverNeutral on Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:54 pm

Rumble's almost here. Of course, this year the World title is on the line, and Roman will be entering at #1. Favorites at the moment based on the shows and betting are Roman (Overcoming more odds than Cena!), Lesnar, Wyatt, or a returning Triple H (Yes, Triple H as champion in 2016). A.J. Styles is also believed to be debuting in the match, if not on RAW.

If they still want to do Roman-Brock II I'd be totally fine with Lesnar winning. On the other hand, on the last RAW they seemed to be building Bray up for him... not feeling Roman or HHH winning.

Whatever the outcome, hopefully it'll be a fun match and make some sense. Who you got?
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:11 pm

NeverNeutral wrote:Rumble's almost here. Of course, this year the World title is on the line, and Roman will be entering at #1. Favorites at the moment based on the shows and betting are Roman (Overcoming more odds than Cena!), Lesnar, Wyatt, or a returning Triple H (Yes, Triple H as champion in 2016). A.J. Styles is also believed to be debuting in the match, if not on RAW.

If they still want to do Roman-Brock II I'd be totally fine with Lesnar winning. On the other hand, on the last RAW they seemed to be building Bray up for him... not feeling Roman or HHH winning.

Whatever the outcome, hopefully it'll be a fun match and make some sense. Who you got?
I have a feeling Brock or Wyatt winning, then Roman will get his rematch at Fastlane, where he'll get screwjobbed by HHH, leading up to Roman vs HHH at Mania.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:32 am

AUSTIN AIRES IN NXT

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/austin-aries-arrives-in-nxt-28580818

Unrelated note, Josh/Bronson/Yeti from Tough Enough will debut in the Rumble. Since he has heaps of backstage heat, hopefully we'll Puder hazing 2.0
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NASCARLOVER427 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:13 am

Bit late, but the 2016 Hall Of Fame was leaked by WhatCulture

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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by racingfreak1999 on Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:35 pm

If this doesn't prove that cancer has been a bitch this past month, I don't know what does.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/25468879/ex-wwe-star-bret-hart-reveals-prostate-cancer-scheduled-surgery
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NeverNeutral on Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:23 pm

Daniel Bryan will announce his retirement on RAW is tonight.

Rumor is his latest medical tests before the Rumble brought back results that either convinced him to make his decision or made WWE double down on not clearing him.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by PackerMan71 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:16 am

NeverNeutral wrote:Daniel Bryan will announce his retirement on RAW is tonight.

Rumor is his latest medical tests before the Rumble brought back results that either convinced him to make his decision or made WWE double down on not clearing him.

He was cleared by three different neurologists, including one from UCLA, yet the WWE won't clear him. It's pretty obvious that the WWE is trying to blackball Daniel Bryan. It's clear that they don't want him back, because he would get in the way of them shoving Roman Reigns down everyone's throat. Bryan even tried to get out of his contract before the Royal Rumble, and they wouldn't even do that. Not to mention that the WWE is being sued by multiple wrestlers over their head doctor being incompetent, so from their standpoint, if they clear Bryan, they're basically saying that they were wrong about hiring the people on their medical staff.

That would not be very good for WWE's reputation. Interesting how that works. Neutral

Not to mention they regurgitate the same shit every week and they talk down to their fans like they're idiots. Why people continue to watch the WWE in spite of all of this is beyond me.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:29 am

What are you talking about? Have you actually followed the news today?

He went to another doctor before the Rumble and took a new, more advanced concussion test. The indication is that when the results came back, either he decided he needed to protect his health or that the WWE doubled down on not clearing him for his safety.

But no, sure, everything's a McMahon conspiracy. No
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by PackerMan71 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:37 am

NeverNeutral wrote:What are you talking about? Have you actually followed the news today?

He went to another doctor before the Rumble and took a new, more advanced concussion test. The indication is that when the results came back, either he decided he needed to protect his health or that the WWE doubled down on not clearing him for his safety.

But no, sure, everything's a McMahon conspiracy. No

Yes, because with everything they do, there's always a conspiracy. [/sarcasm]

For your information, this is info from some friends I know that have an inside track on what's going on in the wrestling world. I'm just reporting it, and I don't appreciate you jumping down my throat just because you don't agree with it. No
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:13 am

Regardless, I'm glad he chose his health over his career. It was sad enough to see him do a retirement speech, I don't think I would be able to sit though a memorial episode.

Sucks to see both of my favorite wrestlers from when I watched in 2012 no longer be wrestling (Punk and Bryan).

This probably means that Brie is going to win the Divas title at Fastlane.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:56 pm

navycook75 wrote:Regardless, I'm glad he chose his health over his career. It was sad enough to see him do a retirement speech, I don't think I would be able to sit though a memorial episode.

Sucks to see both of my favorite wrestlers from when I watched in 2012 no longer be wrestling (Punk and Bryan).

This probably means that Brie is going to win the Divas title at Fastlane.

No way she wins the title. Charlotte, Sasha and Becky is pretty much the money match for WM32
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by bsoyuz on Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:04 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Regardless, I'm glad he chose his health over his career. It was sad enough to see him do a retirement speech, I don't think I would be able to sit though a memorial episode.

Sucks to see both of my favorite wrestlers from when I watched in 2012 no longer be wrestling (Punk and Bryan).

This probably means that Brie is going to win the Divas title at Fastlane.

No way she wins the title. Charlotte, Sasha and Becky is pretty much the money match for WM32

Yes, Brie Bella's feud with Charlotte is a filler feud, so Sash and Becky can be safe from injuries, but I wouldn't be surprised if Brie Bella wins the title at some point between this year and 2017.
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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:21 pm

Either Brie or Bryan also said they wanted to start a family once he retired...
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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:35 pm

Bryan had post-concussions seizures and a lesion on his brain...
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14750304
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Alta on Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 am

NeverNeutral wrote:Bryan had post-concussions seizures and a lesion on his brain...
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14750304
That's pretty scary, I'd rather see Bryan have a nice life rather than him dying in the ring.

As sad as Bryan retiring was, his influence is making WWE think better on who they sign and allowing them to bring their indie cred into the company...Case in Point Styles.

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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NASCARLOVER427 on Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:04 pm

RAW:
HERE COMES THE MONEY!



In much weirder news, it's Shane vs. Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:38 am

Hayabusa, a legendary Japanese wrestler known for high-flying death matches, has passed away due to a brain hemorrhaging. Most people know of them because of an horrific accident in 2001, where he slipped while attempting a springboard moonsault, and slipped, landing on his head, paralyzing him.

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Post by Alta on Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:23 pm

It's without a doubt heartbreaking considering this was only 6 months ago.


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Post by PackerMan71 on Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:58 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Hayabusa, a legendary Japanese wrestler known for high-flying death matches, has passed away due to a brain hemorrhaging. Most people know of them because of an horrific accident in 2001, where he slipped while attempting a springboard moonsault, and slipped, landing on his head, paralyzing him.


I remember seeing that. It was... very hard to watch.
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Post by navycook75 on Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:48 am

Sting's calling it a career.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/17/sting-wwe-injury-retirement/

Good call on his part considering it's the same injury that forced Edge to retire.
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Post by The_Wall_91 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:46 pm

Did I just see Terry Funk give Dean Ambrose a chainsaw on RAW?

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:11 am

The_Wall_91 wrote:Did I just see Terry Funk give Dean Ambrose a chainsaw on RAW?
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:35 pm

>Luke Harper apparently injured

Why the best Wyatt member?
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Post by bsoyuz on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:20 pm

Also, Braun Strowman got attacked after Raw went off the air, during the same dark match Harper tore his ACL.

Aside from that: Wrestlemania will feature once again a 7-man ladder Intercontinental Championship match. Kevin Owens will defend it agains Sami Zayn, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Sin Cara, Stardust and Zack Ryder.

Zack Ryder got inserted into the match in a 11th hour move, as Adrian Neville fractured his shinbone and ankle, and will only return by the summer.

Wm card at the moment:
IC title 7 man ladder match

US title match - Ryback vs Kalisto

WHC title match - HHH vs Reigns

Divas title triple threat match - Charlotte vs Sasha vs Becky

Team Natalya vs Team Lana - 8 women tag team match

Dean Ambrose vs Brock Lesnar - Street Fight

The Usos vs Dudley Boyz

We possibly will have New Day vs League of Nations

The battle royal will be aired on the preshow on USA Network.
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Post by navycook75 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:07 pm

bsoyuz wrote:Also, Braun Strowman got attacked after Raw went off the air, during the same dark match Harper tore his ACL.

Aside from that: Wrestlemania will feature once again a 7-man ladder Intercontinental Championship match. Kevin Owens will defend it agains Sami Zayn, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Sin Cara, Stardust and Zack Ryder.

Zack Ryder got inserted into the match in a 11th hour move, as Adrian Neville fractured his shinbone and ankle, and will only return by the summer.

Wm card at the moment:
IC title 7 man ladder match

US title match - Ryback vs Kalisto

WHC title match - HHH vs Reigns

Divas title triple threat match - Charlotte vs Sasha vs Becky

Team Natalya vs Team Lana - 8 women tag team match

Dean Ambrose vs Brock Lesnar - Street Fight

The Usos vs Dudley Boyz

We possibly will have New Day vs League of Nations

The battle royal will be aired on the preshow on USA Network.
Even with the big names gone, I still like the card.

The three matches I'm looking forward to are
Spoiler:
The IC ladder match, Dean vs Brock, and the Divas triple threat
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Post by PackerMan71 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:19 pm

I don't know who broke a mirror in the locker room, but all these injuries are getting a little ridiculous.

Of course, it doesn't help when the WWE works these guys up to five nights a week. That kind of grind just tears the body apart.
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:05 am

Speaking of injuries, Luke Harper is out for 6 months. why did it have to be the best of the Wyatt members?

Also rumor has it that the New Day/LoN match is no longer for the tag titles.
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Post by PYLrulz on Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:01 am

PackerMan71 wrote:I don't know who broke a mirror in the locker room, but all these injuries are getting a little ridiculous.

Of course, it doesn't help when the WWE works these guys up to five nights a week. That kind of grind just tears the body apart.

Then again, they've been doing this for YEARS, at least since they went national in the 80's.  One of the big reasons (along with the mega huge paychecks Eric Bischoff convinced Ted Turner to cut) many of the guys (albeit older) in the mid 90's went to WCW.  Make a decent amount of cash working 200-300 days out of the year, or make some big bucks, while working half the days.  I think it's pretty obvious what most would choose.  They just haven't had the injury issues that they have had lately though, so you gotta wonder if it's just a bad streak, or if the WWE had been incredibly lucky, because as far as I know, they have NEVER had this kind of a stretch where so many of their guys went down due to injury.
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Post by umatbru on Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:21 am

navycook75 wrote:Also rumor has it that the New Day/LoN match is no longer for the tag titles.

Mad
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:35 am

umatbru wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Also rumor has it that the New Day/LoN match is no longer for the tag titles.

Mad
To be honest, even if it was for the Tag team titles, New Day would of still probably retained. I cannot imagine the League of Nations being tag team champs.
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Post by bsoyuz on Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:55 am

PYLrulz wrote:
PackerMan71 wrote:I don't know who broke a mirror in the locker room, but all these injuries are getting a little ridiculous.

Of course, it doesn't help when the WWE works these guys up to five nights a week. That kind of grind just tears the body apart.

Then again, they've been doing this for YEARS, at least since they went national in the 80's.  One of the big reasons (along with the mega huge paychecks Eric Bischoff convinced Ted Turner to cut) many of the guys (albeit older) in the mid 90's went to WCW.  Make a decent amount of cash working 200-300 days out of the year, or make some big bucks, while working half the days.  I think it's pretty obvious what most would choose.  They just haven't had the injury issues that they have had lately though, so you gotta wonder if it's just a bad streak, or if the WWE had been incredibly lucky, because as far as I know, they have NEVER had this kind of a stretch where so many of their guys went down due to injury.

Also bear in mind in the past, wrestlers would do 3-4 house shows daily, the difference is, while the amount of shows decreased greatly, the style of wrestling changed as well, the 1970-80 wrestling featured way more house shows, but it was a way more slow paced wrestling. Them we started having the flips and shit, that is extremely injury prone.


Yet, some injuries were pretty much out of people's control. WWE is just having one of those Murphy's Law years, but they have survived getting their shit destroyed by WCW in the 1993-1998 period, they'll go through this with no problem.
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Post by PYLrulz on Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:15 pm

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PackerMan71 wrote:I don't know who broke a mirror in the locker room, but all these injuries are getting a little ridiculous.

Of course, it doesn't help when the WWE works these guys up to five nights a week. That kind of grind just tears the body apart.

Then again, they've been doing this for YEARS, at least since they went national in the 80's.  One of the big reasons (along with the mega huge paychecks Eric Bischoff convinced Ted Turner to cut) many of the guys (albeit older) in the mid 90's went to WCW.  Make a decent amount of cash working 200-300 days out of the year, or make some big bucks, while working half the days.  I think it's pretty obvious what most would choose.  They just haven't had the injury issues that they have had lately though, so you gotta wonder if it's just a bad streak, or if the WWE had been incredibly lucky, because as far as I know, they have NEVER had this kind of a stretch where so many of their guys went down due to injury.

Also bear in mind in the past, wrestlers would do 3-4 house shows daily, the difference is, while the amount of shows decreased greatly, the style of wrestling changed as well, the 1970-80 wrestling featured way more house shows, but it was a way more slow paced wrestling. Them we started having the flips and shit, that is extremely injury prone.


Yet, some injuries were pretty much out of people's control. WWE is just having one of those Murphy's Law years, but they have survived getting their shit destroyed by WCW in the 1993-1998 period, they'll go through this with no problem.

That is true. Even during the attitude era, there were only some high flyers, while the majority stayed grounded for the most part. Today, even John Cena is doing leg drops off the ropes.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:51 pm

Miz has allegedly hurt his leg at a house show.

Hopefully Damien Mizdow returns and takes his spot in the IC ladder match.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by NeverNeutral on Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:08 am

Mania Spoilers:
Roman won and didn't turn heel to thunderous boos. Vince did it, the absolute madman!

Great wrestling for most of the matches, but with some nonsensical booking and finishes. Some people seem to think that all the heel wins and such would get them to cheer for Roman... so much for that.

NXT was much better, but that goes without saying.

Unless they can come up with a solution tomorrow, I just need to take a break from the main roster for a while... It's not worth the time investment right now when there's so much other great wrestling I haven't watched.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:00 am

Spoiler:

>New Day gets an awesome entrance
>loses

>Sasha gets someone to sing her theme
>gear is an Eddie tribute (I think)
>loses because Ric Flair (his gimmick does not work as a valet, and it got old quicker than he did)

>Ambrose gets Chainsaw Charlie, the Barbed wire bat, and has a bunch of fun shit
>hardly gets used and loses

>Wyatts get buried in a useless segment by The Rock and Super Cena

>Shane jumps from the top of the cell
>Has our hopes and dreams crushed

>Roman still gets booed

The wrestling was good, but the booking was terrible.

At least we got Zack Ryder as the IC champ and Baron fucking Corbin as the latest ARMBAR winner.

Takeover Dallas was infinitely better
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by GamerAzuzu on Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:40 am

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Wrestling was nice and all but my god it felt like I was watching the Coke 600 because I was burned out by the end of it, good lord that went on longer than it honestly should've gone.


Mania stuff started at 2 in west coast time and didn't end till like close to 9, I mean sheesh.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by navycook75 on Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:43 am

GamerAzuzu wrote:
Spoiler:
Wrestling was nice and all but my god it felt like I was watching the Coke 600 because I was burned out by the end of it, good lord that went on longer than it honestly should've gone.
Spoiler:
it felt like half of it was Dwayne jerking himself.

On that note, can we please get a new host that is not named The Rock?

Fuck, Stone Cold would of fit perfectly for it being Texas.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread

Post by Alta on Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:14 am

Ok show, but a lot of the matches killed by finishes or bad match formatting.

Women were match of the night imo.
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