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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:46 pm

Maybe it was different trackside, but watching on TV, every race today seemed pretty dull - even the Ginetta Juniors seemed fairly lackluster in action. Maybe the race director was asleep.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:55 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:Maybe it was different trackside, but watching on TV, every race today seemed pretty dull - even the Ginetta Juniors seemed fairly lackluster in action. Maybe the race director was asleep.

I read that on the BTCC reddit too. A few races got pretty monotonous, like Ginetta regulars were awful. The racing on Saturday was missing something too.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:37 pm

West Surrey Racing just swept the weekend at Croft. Incredible racing!

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Post by BWard Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:34 am

http://www.btcc.net/2015/07/10/abbott-to-miss-knockhill-rounds/

Hunter Abbott will miss the Round of Knockhill in late August as he and his wife are due to give birth to their first child that weekend.
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Post by Ben Atkins Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:32 am

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/andy-wilmot-steps-down-from-welch-motorsport-drive/

Andy Wilmot will not be in the Welch Motorsport car for the rest of the season.

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/toca-confirm-unchanged-calendar-for-2016/

The calendar will remain unchanged for the 2016 season.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/07/25/frank-wrathall-pleased-with-win-after-step-into-the-unknown/

Frank Wrathall, who was previously jailed for killing a cyclist while driving with a phone won the Super Touring classic race at Silverstone in his first foray back into touring car racing.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/07/14/robb-holland-replaces-simon-belcher-at-handy-motorsport/

American Robb Holland will replace Simon Belcher in the Handy Motorsport car for the remainder of the season, excluding the final two rounds, where Belcher will return.

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Post by Ben Atkins Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:32 am

The Round of Knockhill was a fantastic round, with Rob Collard winning race 1 and the Honda Yuasa pairing of Gordon Shedden and Matt Neal winning rounds 2 and 3, with a very ballsy move by Neal on Adam Morgan securing the win for Neal.

Aiden Moffat, the 18 year old from Scotland, also scored his first ever BTCC podium this weekend in the reverse grid race after crossing the line fourth, but after the stewards penalised Andy Priaulx for driving standards, the podium spot was handed to the teen.

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Despite being in the title hunt for both series, Andy Priaulx has opted to race at Paul Ricard for ELMS, where he sits 4th in points, over the BTCC race at Rockingham. He currently sits 6th in points, 41 points behind leader Jason Plato.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/08/24/priaulx-confirms-rockingham-absence/

Rob Austin has confirmed his team, Rob Austin Racing, will get rid of the Audi A4's they've been running this season.

http://www.insidebtcc.com/next-rob-austin-racing/

And as if things weren't bad enough for RAR, they've also been handed a BTCC TOCA license suspension. This is after their driver, Hunter Abbott, flew home as his wife, Susie was in labour. As a result, the team tried to put Simon Belcher in the car, but ended up withdrawing the entry despite Abbott having driven the car earlier in the weekend.

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/rob-austin-racing-issued-toca-btcc-licence-suspension/

EDIT: (This literally got posted when I hit "send" on this post.)

RML Group have been awarded with a new BTCC contract.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/08/28/rml-group-awarded-new-btcc-contract/

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Post by Milan655 Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:16 am

Following on from Pascal Wehrlein, Lucas Auer and compatriot Edo Mortara, FIA F3 front-runner Antonio Giovinazzi will debut in the DTM this weekend at the Moscow Raceway:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/08/28/antonio-giovinazzi-confirmed-by-audi-as-replacement-for-timo-scheider/
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:54 pm

Gordon Shedden wins the BTCC title because everybody layed over for him in the final race at Brands.

What a crock of BS.

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Post by BWard Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:05 pm

I want to be happy that Gordon Shedden won the title, but I can’t. It was such a disgrace seeing others blatantly let him go, and then his teammate Matt Neal try and slow everyone up for Shedden to have a chance, not to mention Andrew Jordan clearly showed it by using his FREAKING INDICATORS to let Shedden through, and as a big fan of his, that was pitiful to see. And also, I’ve never been a fan of Jason Plato and never will, but I have to give credit when it's due. He drove his damn heart out to win the title and it must still hurt for him to lose the title by 1 point, as both he and Turkington truly brought the BMR Team up to being contenders this year. They will almost certainly be a true force to be reckoned with in 2016.
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Post by Ben Atkins Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:34 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:not to mention Andrew Jordan clearly showed it by using his FREAKING INDICATORS to let Shedden through, and as a big fan of his, that was pitiful to see.

Andrew Jordan is rumoured to be going back to a Honda for 2016. However, I think he definitely cares more about RallyCross than BTCC at this point, anyways.

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Post by BooyakaDragon Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Well this was my first year watching BTCC full-time. Not the best way for the Championship to end I suppose lol. Oh well, I really like BTCC, I'll definitely be watching next year as well.
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Post by Alta Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:15 pm

I don't know how the lines work at Brands Hatch as i think i've watched...maybe 1 race from there but from watching the last 10 laps back it seems kind of half and half, like some peeps did lay over while Shedden passed others straight up it felt (Having better line, etc). The Neal slowing up Goff thing was pretty shitty but that's pretty standard fair team orders sadly.

Despite all that it was a pretty fun ending to the season, still kick myself that i can't catch these races whether it be them being on during my sleep cycle or the only legal way i can stream it is region blocked.
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Post by BooyakaDragon Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:51 pm

Alta wrote:I don't know how the lines work at Brands Hatch as i think i've watched...maybe 1 race from there but from watching the last 10 laps back it seems kind of half and half, like some peeps did lay over while Shedden passed others straight up it felt (Having better line, etc). The Neal slowing up Goff thing was pretty shitty but that's pretty standard fair team orders sadly.

Despite all that it was a pretty fun ending to the season, still kick myself that i can't catch these races whether it be them being on during my sleep cycle or the only legal way i can stream it is region blocked.
Not sure if this is allowed but I could you pm you a link to where the races are fully uploaded soon after it's aired. It's how I've watched it.
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Post by Alta Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:27 am

BooyakaDragon wrote:
Alta wrote:I don't know how the lines work at Brands Hatch as i think i've watched...maybe 1 race from there but from watching the last 10 laps back it seems kind of half and half, like some peeps did lay over while Shedden passed others straight up it felt (Having better line, etc). The Neal slowing up Goff thing was pretty shitty but that's pretty standard fair team orders sadly.

Despite all that it was a pretty fun ending to the season, still kick myself that i can't catch these races whether it be them being on during my sleep cycle or the only legal way i can stream it is region blocked.
Not sure if this is allowed but I could you pm you a link to where the races are fully uploaded soon after it's aired. It's how I've watched it.
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Post by Ben Atkins Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:35 am

Jason Plato has berated Aron Smith, stating "he has probably got himself sacked" after it came up that Smith ignored team orders which might have, in turn, lost Plato the title.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/aron-smith-has-probably-got-himself-sacked-says-plato/?v=2&s=1&q=jason+plato

I understand where Plato is coming from, but the team tactics ruined a lot of the weekend for me, so I don't think I necessarily agree with him. I hope Smith hasn't got the sack. He's got a lot of potential. He does have a point that Honda Dynamics had their team orders right compared to BMR.

As for what you said about race 3, Alta, Shedden put the car in a qualifying mode from what I understand, but it felt like no-one even put up a fight, or just straight up gave the position, but the more I think about it, the ones that let Shedden go are related to Honda somewhat.

-Matt Neal is Shedden's teammate, so this was a given.
-Martin Depper is driving a Honda for EuroTech, so this somewhat a given.
-Andrew Jordan is rumoured to be driving a Honda next year, so this could be a given. If he isn't, then this is confusing.
-James Cole might have been slowing down for the safety car, but if he did just let Shedden by, this is also confusing.

It was all in all a brilliant season with only the final race letting me down at any point. Hopefully 2016 has a grid as healthy as this season, and hopefully he racing product is just as good.

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Post by Lucstar88 Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:28 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:Jason Plato has berated Aron Smith, stating "he has probably got himself sacked" after it came up that Smith ignored team orders which might have, in turn, lost Plato the title.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/aron-smith-has-probably-got-himself-sacked-says-plato/?v=2&s=1&q=jason+plato


That's really weird, cause wasn't he helping Plato back in race 2 when he held up like several cars (even if some passed him). Yet, he ignored team orders in the last race? Something must be fishy there.
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Post by Ben Atkins Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:30 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:Jason Plato has berated Aron Smith, stating "he has probably got himself sacked" after it came up that Smith ignored team orders which might have, in turn, lost Plato the title.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/aron-smith-has-probably-got-himself-sacked-says-plato/?v=2&s=1&q=jason+plato


That's really weird, cause wasn't he helping Plato back in race 2 when he held up like several cars (even if some passed him). Yet, he ignored team orders in the last race? Something must be fishy there.

It wasn't the last race that was the issue; it was the first of the three. Smith finished ahead of Plato despite Warren Scott telling Smith to lay over.

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Post by Lucstar88 Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:33 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Ben Atkins wrote:Jason Plato has berated Aron Smith, stating "he has probably got himself sacked" after it came up that Smith ignored team orders which might have, in turn, lost Plato the title.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/aron-smith-has-probably-got-himself-sacked-says-plato/?v=2&s=1&q=jason+plato


That's really weird, cause wasn't he helping Plato back in race 2 when he held up like several cars (even if some passed him). Yet, he ignored team orders in the last race? Something must be fishy there.

It wasn't the last race that was the issue; it was the first of the three. Smith finished ahead of Plato despite Warren Scott telling Smith to lay over.

Oh, i missed the first race, so that's why!
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Post by Ben Atkins Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:18 am

As it turns out, Warren Scott didn't actually communicate any team orders in the first race, while Jason Plato thought there was.

http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2015/10/warren-scott-says-2015-defeat-will-make-bmr-stronger/

This makes Plato's comments a lot more unnecessary now, but this probably also means Aron Smith's ride should be safe.

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Post by Ben Atkins Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:14 pm

Plato's continuing to whine about what happened with Aron Smith, despite Smith apologising.

https://twitter.com/jasonplato/status/654779424693358592

Honestly appalling behaviour by JP. Losing a lot of respect for him minute by minute.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:42 pm

Honestly, I think Smith deserves the sack regardless of where you stand with the team orders. Sure, the guy's shown a lot of potential before, but this year he totally dropped the ball, never looked like winning a race after Brands Indy. He finished 9 points ahead of Mat Jackson, who did only half the schedule, in a potentially title-winning car. Give the ride to Tom Ingram - he wouldn't let them down.

And I am personally shocked that Jason Plato acting like a baby is a surprise to anyone after nearly 20 years in the sport doing exactly that.

As for Andrew Jordan, personally I'm hoping he'll take his Pirtek sponsorship to Motorbase. Lord knows they need the money, and a second driver worth a damn. Plus, if he's driving a Honda, that means either going back to Eurotech, where I think all the really skilled personnel have probably been lured away by now, or a third Dynamics car, which I'm not gonna put any stock in at least until I see someone reputable float the idea.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:44 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:Honestly, I think Smith deserves the sack regardless of where you stand with the team orders. Sure, the guy's shown a lot of potential before, but this year he totally dropped the ball, never looked like winning a race after Brands Indy. He finished 9 points ahead of Mat Jackson, who did only half the schedule, in a potentially title-winning car. Give the ride to Tom Ingram - he wouldn't let them down.

Oh HELL yes. I'd pay to see what Ingram could do in a car worth a damn. The Speedworks car isn't awful but Ingram made that team what it is in the BTCC. Fun fact, the Speedworks team is based in the town over from me.

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Post by Ben Atkins Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:39 am

Andrew Jordan jumps over to the Motorbase Performance team, which dominated the last half of the 2015 season with Mat Jackson, for the 2016 season.

http://news.motorsportvision.co.uk/former-btcc-champ-jordan-switches-to-motorbase-for-2016.aspx

The 2016 Sporting Regulations for the BTCC are also out, where the only major change is that the Race 2 grid will now be set based off of the results of Race 1 again.

http://www.btcc.net/2015/10/26/2016-btcc-sporting-regulations-confirmed/

Dunlop have revised the soft tyre choice for 2016, which the tyre having some major improvements over the previous model.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/btcc-gets-revised-soft-tyre-for-2016/

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Post by BooyakaDragon Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:26 pm

Self explanatory

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Post by Ben Atkins Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:03 am

To add onto what BooyakaDragon posted, alongside the Subaru deal, Team BMR announced that Jason Plato and Colin Turkington will continue to drive for them. No word on anyone else.

http://news.oultonpark.co.uk/safety-improvements-carried-out-at-oulton-park.aspx

Oulton Park have made safety changes to the run-off in the Island Bend and International Corner, as it was prone to flooding. On top of that, cars had tendencies to get upside down there when the BTCC Weekend raced the full circuit in 2014.

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Post by Ben Atkins Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:35 am

Well, there was a bunch of announcements recently so.....

Jack Goff also jumps ship from Triple Eight, and makes the move to WSR.

https://twitter.com/autosport/status/687547256703168512

Rob Austin will drive for Handy Motorsports

http://www.btcc.net/2016/01/14/fan-favourite-austin-joins-handy-motorsport/

Warren Scott will drive for Team BMR again, but still no word on their fourth driver.

http://www.motorsport.com/btcc/news/scott-confirms-btcc-return-aims-for-four-subarus-669054/

Speedworks resign Tom Ingram for the 2016 season and will aim for success in the upcoming season.

http://www.btcc.net/2016/01/13/speedworks-target-glory-after-re-signing-ingram/

The B-TEC series has been launched as a feeder series for the BTCC series. This new series will use old BTCC cars, and Rob Austin Racing have confirmed four entries, while Team BMR have confirmed six entries.

http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122457/new-development-series-for-btcc

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Post by umatbru Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:32 pm

I hope V8 Supercars is replaced by TCR or NGTC or both in 2017.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:41 am

TOM INGRAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

That is all.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:15 pm

Goddamn I hate Team Dynamics. Neal and Shedden were both douches today, enough for me to just give up watching halfway through race 3.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:34 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:Goddamn I hate Team Dynamics. Neal and Shedden were both douches today, enough for me to just give up watching halfway through race 3.

*bump* but i just seen this so

I was at the track over the Oulton weekend and both of them were driving like arseholes. Neal's been driving like a knob all year so I really hope Tordoff can pull away from him in the championship hunt. I think he will because Neal's been too inconsistent at qualifying this year.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:30 am

*bump*

There's been a nasty accident in Race 2 at Snetterton on the first lap. Ollie Jackson, Ash Sutton, Dan Welch, Hunter Abbott and Alex Martin all wrecked together, with Jackson and Abbott hitting the barriers exceptionally hard.

Everyone's out of their cars okay, but they're currently under a lengthy red flag to fix the barriers and clear the debris.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:33 pm

Absoutely frightening accident on the first lap of Race 3, as Hunter Abbott's car went flipping down the frontstretch, hitting a cameraman's stand. Everyone, including the camera man, were okay.


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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:30 pm

Jason Plato made his 500th BTCC start today in Race 1 at Knockhill, and capped it off with a win.

Race 3 is currently going on, and started with Alex Martin continuing to prove why he shouldn't be behind the wheel of a race car. Literally the most dangerous driver I know off in any major racing series.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:21 pm

With Rockingham coming up next in the BTCC, it's worth looking at the trend coming out of there in recent years. Since 2012, the champion won their last race that season at Rockingham, and from 2012-2014, the champion won 2 of the 3 races that weekend. Obviously, there is no guarantee this trend will continue, but it's worth keeping in mind, especially for the drivers on the outskirts of the title fight at this stage - Collard, Shedden, Jackson, Turkington, and Plato.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:04 pm

Gordon Shedden wins the 2016 BTCC Championship, confirming I'm not allowed anything nice from this series.

Really wanted Sam Tordoff to pull it off, but again Shedden pulls one out of his ass.

I think I should stop watching Brands Hatch because all I seem to get out of it is disappointment :\

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:59 pm

On the positive side, Mat Jackson won the final race of the year and tied Colin Turkington for most wins this year after Turkington won the first 2, with 5 apiece.
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Post by Alta Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:37 pm

Gotta advertise BTCC you guys, had no idea the title fight had 8 DRIVERS in it coming in.
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Post by Ben Atkins Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:54 pm

http://www.btcc.net/2016/11/15/andrew-jordan-joins-wsr-for-btcc-title-assault/

Andrew Jordan continues to change teams more than his underwear as he joins West Surrey Racing for 2017.

Wonder who's out over there, then?

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Post by Ben Atkins Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:28 pm

Major bump.

Not going to post links for everything since I've kinda slacked on posting BTCC news here, but I'll try and recap what I can.

Power Maxed have brought Vauxhall on to attempt the Manufacturer's Championship, also signing two new drivers; Clio Cup ace Senna Proctor and former BTCC and WTCC race winner Tom Chilton.

BTC Norlin Racing have joined the grid, and have signed Chris Smiley and the returning Dave Newsham to their roster.

Eurotech resigned Jeff Smith to their team, while also bringing in Jack Goff to drive for them, replacing Martin Depper.

Speaking of Martin Depper, he's gone to Motorbase, joining Mat Jackson as well as rookie Luke Davenport.

AMDTuning retained the services of Ollie Jackson, but also expanded their team, making space for reigning Clip Cup champion Ant Whorton-Eales, who will be a rookie to the series.

After an impressive season, Jake Hill has been given a second season in the BTCC, signing for Team HARD.

Stephen Jelley will return to the series after a 7 year break, as he will take over the Team Parker Racing car that Alex Martin regularly put in the barriers.

Triple Eight Engineering completely changed up their driver lineup as well, as they got rid of Ashley Sutton AND Josh Cook, bringing in Daniel Lloyd and Aron Taylor-Smith.

However, Sutton was not left without a ride (sadly) as he signed for Team BMR, joining Jason Plato and James Cole, replacing the outgoing Colin Turkington.

Turkington is not out of a ride either, as he joins Andrew Jordan as West Surrey Racing. The teams third driver has yet to be announced, but it is expected that Josh Cook will land that ride.

Team BMR also do not have a fourth driver yet, as it looks like Warren Scott has finally gotten the hint that he's not very good and has decided to work on stuff behind the scenes. If Cook lands the WSR car, I imagine the team will snap up Rob Collard.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:29 am

The BTCC Season starts a few weeks ago at Brands and I completely forgot to update the thread Embarassed

I didn't watch that weekend (was out and about) but Donington is on now, and Aiden Moffat has just taken his first career victory.

However, the Formula 4 race has been marred by a horrendous accident.

https://twitter.com/kallan_thfc/status/853575501738323972

Driver in the stopped car is out and in the ambulance. Billy Monger is still being tended to and a helicopter has been called for him. Sad

EDIT: They just updated the situation on ITV4. He is conscious but trapped in the car. All things considering, that's good news.

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Post by Ben Atkins Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:48 pm

According to a fundraiser set up for Billy Monger by his race team, unfortunately he has had to have both lower legs amputated after his crash at the weekend. Sad

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/billymonger23

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Post by RyanB06 Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:48 pm

I'm truly saddened by this news. Hopefully he can get the help he needs to get his life back to somewhat resembling normal.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:57 am

A major incident happened in BTCC qualifying at Croft where 11 cars crashed in rain and oil, resulting in severe injuries to three drivers; Aron Taylor-Smith, Luke Davenport and Jeff Smith.

http://www.btcc.net/2017/06/11/medical-update-0830am-sunday-11-june-2017/

I'll put the crash video in a spoiler, but it's not nice to view at all.

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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:45 pm

*bump*

Ashley Sutton has just took his first BTCC title in the Subaru after Colin Turkington has retired from the final race of the season. Congratulations to Ashley Sutton after an absolutely sensational season, and a well deserved championship!!!

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