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Post by day500champ1 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:12 pm

Well, what to do this week?  After all there is only the NWS race at Chicago right?  Oh way a minute, the trucks ON dirt.

That's right.  For the first time, the trucks take to Eldora.  This is Wednesday night, so not only is it a midsummer classic, it's a midweek classic.


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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:18 pm

This race is next week. Razz
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Post by day500champ1 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Oops, my bad. Thought it was this week. Didn't notice the date.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:39 am

Here's the entry list to the truck race: http://www.jayski.com/news/campingworld/2013/story/_/page/2013cts10eldora-entry
 
13Ty DillonBass Pro Shops13 ChevyRichard Childress
24Jeb Burton #Arrowhead13 ChevyHarry Scott Jr
35TBAApplebee's13 ChevyRichard Wauters
46Jared LandersMark Martin Automotive & Peak Oil13 ChevyEddie Sharp
57John Wes TownleyZaxby's13 ToyotaTom Deloach
607Jimmy Weller IIITBA13 ChevyKen Smith
78Max GreshamMade in the USA Brand12 ChevyEddie Sharp
89Ron Hornaday Jr.Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff13 ChevyJoe Denette
910Jennifer Jo CobbDriven2Honor.org11 RAMJennifer Jo Cobb
1013Tracy HinesTBA13 ToyotaDuke Thorson
1117Timothy PetersParts Plus13 ToyotaTom Deloach
1218Joey CoulterDarrell Gwynn Foundation13 ToyotaKyle Busch
1319Dave Blaney(i)Reese Towpower13 FordBrad Keselowski
1424Brennan NewberryQore-2413 ChevyBob Newberry
1529Ryan BlaneyCooper Standard13 FordBrad Keselowski
1630Kyle LarsonClorox13 ChevySteve Turner
1731James BuescherRheem13 ChevySteve Turner
1832Miguel PaludoAccuDoc Solutions13 ChevySteve Turner
1934Ryan Newman(i)Oral-B Aggressive Design13 ChevySteve Turner
2039Austin Dillon(i)RSS Racing13 ChevySusan Bates
2144JR HeffnerPark East Sales, A.Colarusso and Son13 ChevyRobert Colarusso
2251Scott BloomquistToyota Care13 ToyotaKyle Busch
2352Ken SchraderFederated Auto Parts12 ToyotaKen Schrader
2454Darrell Wallace Jr.Camping World / Good Sam13 ToyotaKyle Busch
2557Norm BenningStone Mountain Guns and Gold13 ChevyNorm Benning
2660Dakoda ArmstrongWinfield13 ChevyVickie Compton
2762Brendan GaughanSouth Point13 ChevyRichard Childress
2863Justin JenningsTBA13 ChevyMichael Mitler
2968Clay GreenfieldTBA13 RAMClay Greenfield
3077German Quiroga #OtterBox13 ToyotaTom Deloach
3181Kenny Wallace(i)GrimeBoss/GunBroker13 ToyotaBobby Dotter
3284Jeff BabcockBulkMaterialLift.com09 ChevyChris Fontaine
3388Matt CraftonIdeal DoorsMenards13 ToyotaRhonda Thorson
3493Chris JonesRSS Racing13 ChevyPam Sieg
3598Johnny SauterCarolina Nut Co - Curb Records13 ToyotaMike Curb
3699Bryan SilasRockingham Speedway13 ChevyChris Baluch
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more than 36 trucks on the entry list. Who knows? We may see more drivers join the entry list. I have a list of drivers you may not be familiar that will explain what kind of background they have.
 
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Jared Landers: He runs regularly in the Lucas Oil Dirt Late Model Series. He moved up through the ranks winning a bunch of dirt modified races and won numerous dirt late model races for Clint Bowyer Racing (who he currently drives for). He's not exactly as good as some of the driver he competes with but he can hold on his own pretty well.
 
Jimmy Wellers III: This surprises me a bit. He's raced and won a few sprint car and dirt modified races for a few years before switching over to asphalt and has raced late models since '07. He has some experience on the K&N Series but overall, his resume doesn't stand out from the other drivers.
 
Tracy Hines: He's raced in NASCAR before, and has spent a lot of years racing in USAC and is usually a serious contender. He's one of the "dirt ringers" I think people should keep an eye on.
 
J.R. Heffner: He's raced several ARCA races and only finished in the top 15 a couple of times. He regularly runs big block dirt modifieds and has won a few championships. It's hard to say how well he'll do.
 
Scott Bloomquist: A few of us should at least heard of this guy. He's considered a dirt late model HOF'er and has won over 500 feature races in his career and won the Dream 100 at Eldora last month. He's another "dirt ringer" people should watch out for as he's racing for KBM.
 
Jeff Babcock: Unless you follow dirt racing closely in the western part of Ohio, you have never heard of this guy before. He typically runs a dirt modified and late model on a weekly basis and does pretty well. He's won one or two feature races at Eldora this year, but I don't think this will indicate he will do well in the truck race.
 
Kenny Wallace: Before moving up to NASCAR, he was a notorious driver in USAC.. Kenny Schrader currently runs his dirt modified at a bunch of different dirt tracks and is a force to be reckoned with. I can see him do very well.
 
Ryan Newman: The same can be said for him as with Schrader, though I don't think he's raced on dirt in a while other than competing in the Prelude.
 
Kenny Wallace: He never started racing on dirt until several years ago. He's not exactly the best when it comes to dirt racing but the equipment he runs makes up for it.
 
Ty and Austin Dillon: When they have their weeks off in NASCAR, they race their dirt mods and late models for Team Dillon Racing. This won't surprise me if one of them ends up winning this race.
 
Kyle Larson: Do I need to say more? He's raced in a ton of dirt races and kicks everyone's butt out there.

Dave Blaney: He's competed in the WoO Sprint Car Series before moving up to NASCAR and is a popular driver in Ohio. You could say that Dave Blaney leading at Eldora would be like Dale Jr. leading at Talladega.


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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by BBoy on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:55 am

Wouldn't be surprised that the fact NASCAR locked in the top 20 for a 30 truck race turned away potential one-offs.


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Post by PKligBKFan on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:59 am

We only have two true one-off teams in this race. The 44 and the 6. We do have a bunch of one-off drivers. Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.
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Post by navycook75 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:03 pm

Nascar has a rule that if the owner of a track is a NASCAR driver, the driver cannot compete at that track.

That's why Tony isn't racing Eldora.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by RealRacer4 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:22 pm

Also:
 
Eldora tire developement a challenge for Goodyear: For Goodyear, the challenge of building tires for NASCAR is a diverse undertaking. Making safe and competitive tires as the exclusive supplier for NASCAR's top three national series means developing tires for race tracks ranging from one-half mile to 2.66 miles long, on concrete and asphalt, and surfaces as rough as a cheese grater and as smooth as glass. This season, with the Camping World Truck Series adding the dirt track of Eldora Speedway to the schedule, the challenge got even bigger. The inaugural "Mudsummer Classic," scheduled for Wednesday, July 24 at the half-mile track in Western Ohio, will be the first NASCAR national series race held on dirt in more than 40 years. But for Goodyear, who has been involved in a wide array of racing disciplines over the years, it was just a matter of dipping into the playbook and coming up with a solution. The new "Wrangler" tires that Goodyear will bring to Eldora for the Truck Series are based upon a dirt modified tire in its tire line. However, the NASCAR dirt tire has been widened to 11 inches (from 10 inches) to provide a larger contact patch with the track and give the trucks more grip. The two primary differences from the standard race tires run on ovals in NASCAR's top three series is that the Eldora tire will be a bias ply tire and feature a tread pattern. The bias ply tire construction is not as stiff as the radial tire used on paved NASCAR ovals, therefore it is more compliant and more able to envelope the irregularities of a dirt surface. As far as the tread, the Eldora tire features Goodyear's G23 pattern, which is a standard block pattern. It has grooves and biting edges to help evacuate dirt from underneath the tire, giving the trucks more grip. The tread compound itself is on the "softer" end of the spectrum, which will also help with grip. While the Eldora right-side tire will basically remain the same height as a NASCAR tire run on asphalt tracks, the left-side is a little shorter to build in more stagger, which will help the trucks turn better. For Goodyear, the tire development process started last October with a test on the 10-inch tire at Eldora with track owner and three-time Sprint Cup Series champion Tony Stewart, former Camping World Truck Series champion Austin Dillon, and his brother and current Truck Series contender Ty Dillon. In addition to seeing how the tread pattern evacuated the dirt and the compound put down rubber, it was important that there were no clearance issues which could lead to the tires rubbing against the truck or its suspension parts. Once Goodyear produced the 11-inch tire, Ty Dillon went back to 311 Speedway, a dirt track in Pine Hall, NC. When everything checked out with that test, Goodyear had its Eldora tire.(Goodyear PR)(7-12-2013)

Also, it's called the MUD Summer Classic, not Mid Summer.

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Post by Lucstar88 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:13 pm

Dillon with RSS... wat
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Post by crl on Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:34 pm

The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.

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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by Chives2112 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Dillon with RSS... wat
It's an RCR truck with RSS owner points so that they could be guaranteed a spot in the field, if I remember correctly. Since they're using Ryan Sieg's owner points, he's probably going to go over to the other RSS truck driven by Chris Jones in the #93.

crl wrote:The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.
Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference. Razz


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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:17 pm

crl wrote:The race is called the Mudsummer Classic.

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Post by Sparkz47 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:37 pm

Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference. Razz

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?
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Post by Mother of Invention on Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:47 am

PKligBKFan wrote: Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.

 You mean that wasn't a Jayski Typo?


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Post by PKligBKFan on Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:05 am

Mother of Invention wrote:
PKligBKFan wrote: Also, despite JJC being listed as the driver of the 10 truck, it will be her father Joe.

 You mean that wasn't a Jayski Typo?


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Nope. She announced that a few weeks ago.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:02 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference. Razz

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?

I think calling it the Mudsummer Classic was Stewart's idea.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:07 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Chives2112 wrote:Techincally, it's the "CarCash Mudsummer Classic", but that doesn't really make a difference. Razz

And just when I was marveling at how sensible the "Midsummer Classic" was...NASCAR, why don't you want to be taken seriously?

I think calling it the Mudsummer Classic was Stewart's idea.

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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:05 pm

Jason Bowles will drive for Richie Wauters in the 5 truck at Eldora in place of Tim George, Jr. with Valvoline sponsorship.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:08 pm

It's a weird feeling knowing that I'll be at Eldora in person tomorrow. Being there to watch a NASCAR race at a dirt track is going to be something else.

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Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:16 pm

Sorry for the double post but SPEED is currently broadcasting truck practice and these are the first practice session results:
 
1 Larson-19.645
2 D. Blaney- 19.656
3 R. Blaney- 19.918
4 A. Dillon- 19.982
5 T. Dillon- 20.205
6 B. Gaughan- 20.349
7 J. Townley- 20.483
8 S. Bloomquist- 20.496
9 R. Hornaday- 20.499
10 D. Armstrong- 20.538
 
Some big surprises like JWT and Armstrong. I heard JWT tore up a car in the first practice session though.
 
Holy crap. I've never seen Eldora that bumpy before. After hearing what happened during the Late Model Dream last month, having those windshields aren't the worst thing in the world. A couple of drivers had their helmets damaged from rocks flying into their cock pits (dirt cars never run windshields), one of which had a broken nose and bruised eye as a result of it. I still wish they can remove the windshields and have drivers wear tear-off on their helmets so it gives the track workers more freedom to do what they want with the track, like making it a lot more tacky than it was when they first started the first practice session.

Stream for truck practice: http://www.justin.tv/besweeet50#/w/6255193984/3

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Post by NeverNeutral on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:00 pm

>tfw when SPEED has no audio on all the TVs in this hotel

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Post by RACECAR on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:33 pm

Such an odd site seeing the trucks sideways through the dirt but then again, I said the same about the TORC series when they plowed through the turns. Looks just as cool.


One thing I do wonder is going off the winged sprint cars, maybe having something like a blade across the top (down the right side) of the Truck as well as some more of that skew as well as some additional stagger would help them turn through the dirt better.
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:35 pm

This looks like a rain race. lol
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Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:14 pm

That does it for the practice session. Watching it on SPEED has certainly given me a good idea of what we might be seeing tomorrow. Though, the way the track conditions are now won't mean anything tomorrow. It's supposed to be cooler here tomorrow and the track workers will completely re-do the track once the dirt late model race ends tonight (which I wish SPEED Channel was broadcasting No). Track conditions on dirt change a lot more often than pavement tracks, which is what makes dirt racing a challenge.

JWT has certainly shown his old self today. A few drivers, like James Buescher and Jeb Burton are struggling quite a bit on getting the hang of driving on dirt. Seeing the Dillon brothers, Blaneys, Larson, Schrader, and Tracy Hines being fast is no surprise at all. A driver worth keeping an eye on is Scott Bloomquist. He tends to take a much different approach from most drivers and has great knowledge on race cars as far as set-ups, what lines to run, etc. I've read some articles on him and they're worth reading. One of the surprises have been Ron Hornaday. He's been consistently quick in both practice sessions. I have expected Matt Crafton to do well in practice since he raced some dirt modifieds earlier this year and has struggled.

I'll be watching this race at the track tomorrow. I can't wait to see how the racing will be throughout the night.

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Post by bigdc48 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:45 am

Race of the year. Calling it.
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Post by day500champ1 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:22 pm

Well, the first q race is over. And old man Schrader wins from the pole. So he will lead them to the green in the main event tonight.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:26 pm

Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!


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Post by navycook75 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:26 pm

Old guys kicking ass.

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Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:30 pm

Heat 2 on now:

Jared Landers
Matt Crafton
Darrell Wallace Jr
Miguel Paludo
Dakota Armstrong
Norm Benning
Jeff Babcock
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Post by Metro 6r4 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:37 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!
Do you have the link? livebox isn't working for me
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Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:41 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Trying to find a stream.... think i got one!!!
Do you have the link? livebox isn't working for me
And it didn't work.... still trying
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Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:46 pm

Heat 3 on:

Timothy Peters
Jason Bowles
Clay Greenfield
Brenden Gaughan
Kyle Larson
Ron Hornaday
Ryan Blaney

Edit: Timothy Peters wins.  Heat 4 coming up. Lineup for this race:

James Buescher
John Wes Townley
Brenden Newberry
Austin Dillon
Kenny Wallace
Max Gresham
Joe Cobb
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:02 pm

>Speed USA 15 minuets behind Speed AUS.

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Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:03 pm

lol
kenny wins heat 4....
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Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:08 pm

Old Man Ken is the oldest racer to get poles in the 3 nascar series at 58
passed Dick Trickle who did it at 57
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Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:11 pm

Heat 5 to begin. Lineup:

Johnny Sauter
Jeb Burton
Ty Dillon
Ryan Newman
Justin Jennings
Bryan Silas
German Quiroga
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Post by crl on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:20 pm

QQ Sauter. It's dirt racing.

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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:25 pm

When does Johnny Sauter not through a fit about contact? You don't have to even so much as touch him when he wrecks and he'll get all bitchy. Remember watching him on that program that use to air when it went behind the scenes with him, total brat and this was a guy in crappy equipment not even capable of qualifying every week.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by navycook75 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:29 pm


>Based Stacey
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Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:38 pm

Laughing

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

LCQ Coming up. Lineup includes:

Justin Jennings
Bryan Silas
JR Heffner
Jimmy Weller
Jared Landers
Jeff Babcock
Joe Cobb
Jason Bowles
Brenden Newberry
Norm Benning
Clay Greenfield

So who do you think will be the 5 that transfer?
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by RealRacingRoots on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:48 pm

Drinking Game time: Everytime someone says "Slide Job" TAKE A DRINK! Laughing 

Still, thoroughly enjoying this racing, wild start in the LCW. And the 07 goes around, caution. This just got good.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by crl on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:53 pm

Wow. Nice job by Norm Benning there.

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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by navycook75 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:55 pm

RACECAR wrote:Laughing

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

From what I heard he's a total bro outside of racing.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by RACECAR on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Awesome finish, Love that battle with Norm

And now, the final:

Johnny Sauter
Jeb Burton
Ty Dillon
Ryan Newman
German Quiroga
James Buescher
John Wes Townley
Austin Dillon
Kenny Wallace
Max Gresham
Timothy Peters
Brenden Gaughan
Kyle Larson
Ron Hornaday
Ryan Blaney
Matt Crafton
Darrell Wallace Jr
Miguel Paludo
Dakota Armstrong
Ken Schreider
Scott Bloomquist
Joey Coulter
Dave Blaney
Brenden Newberry
Jeff Babcock
Jason Bowles
Justin Jennings
Norm Benning

Predictions?

navycook75 wrote:
RACECAR wrote:Laughing

And Suddenly, I'm a Dexter Stacey fan.

From what I heard he's a total bro outside of racing.

Sounds cool.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by conrail1990 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:09 pm

[quote="RealRacingRoots"]Drinking Game time: Everytime someone says "Slide Job" TAKE A DRINK! Laughing  [quote] *burp* Shut up, you talking....chicken..drunken
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by Metro 6r4 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:12 pm

I'm calling it now, this will probably be the biggest contender for race of the year.
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:28 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:I'm calling it now, this will probably be the biggest contender for race of the year.
The Race! Hope it goes well!
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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by Chives2112 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:31 pm

It is time.

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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

Post by Lucstar88 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:40 pm

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Re: CWTS - Mudsummer Classic

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