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Post by crl on Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:08 am

So, Ganassi got in the winners' column in Pocono, while RHR's hopes of repeating took a bit of a hit from the pit lane incident with Sato.

Now, the guys and gals of IndyCar head north of the border for the second of the three doubleheaders this season.

Unfortunately, they're going to encounter a little problem - it's been raining in Southern Ontario non-stop for the entire day (although, it's not raining there now), which has caused flash flooding. The problem is, the rain chances for tomorrow (Tuesday) and Wednesday are very high. The sun should start shining again on Thursday. Hopefully, things will dry out before Friday.

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:52 am

I hope Chevy wins for Sponsorship lols.
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Post by 24batista24 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:32 pm

Well I think they are gonna bring boats to the track. Yesterday Toronto got torrential downpour for 2 hours. 5 inches of rain fell in that time period. Not looking too good at the moment. Here's a pic.

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Post by Toblerone on Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:13 pm

Its so weird, I'm only an hour outside Toronto and I got a sprinkle of rain. Some places are clear now. Hinchcliffe tweeted that Lake Shore (The back straight) is clear. Looking good so far.
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Post by Alpineopossum on Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:46 pm

If I were Penske I would give Jacques Villeneuve the #2 car...and then laugh like an evil genius...Maniacal Laughter 
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Post by PYLrulz on Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:36 pm

That pic looks like they should be good for speedboat racing
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Post by Wizzie on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:35 am

Race 1 at Toronto to have a standing start.

Let the fun begin.
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by RealRacer4 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:40 pm

[th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th]
1Dario Franchitti
59.6756
Firestone Fast Six
2Sebastien Bourdais
59.7701
Firestone Fast Six
3Will Power
60.0612
Firestone Fast Six
4Tony Kanaan
60.1179
Firestone Fast Six
5James Jakes
60.1430
Firestone Fast Six
6Scott Dixon
60.3228
Firestone Fast Six
7Ryan Hunter-Reay
60.1954
Round 2 / Top 12
8Helio Castroneves
60.2866
Round 2 / Top 12
9Justin Wilson
60.2954
Round 2 / Top 12
10Ryan Briscoe
60.3843
Round 2 / Top 12
11Marco Andretti
60.6027
Round 2 / Top 12
12Takuma Sato
62.3831
Round 2 / Top 12
13Simon Pagenaud
60.4303
Round 1 / Group 1
14James Hinchcliffe
60.5083
Round 1 / Group 2
15E.J. Viso
60.4556
Round 1 / Group 1
16Charlie Kimball
60.6569
Round 1 / Group 2
17Alex Tagliani
60.4586
Round 1 / Group 1
18Graham Rahal
60.6868
Round 1 / Group 2
19Josef Newgarden
60.5822
Round 1 / Group 1
20Mike Conway
60.9526
Round 1 / Group 2
21Tristan Vautier (R)
60.9053
Round 1 / Group 1
22Simona De Silvestro
61.1553
Round 1 / Group 2
23Ed Carpenter
61.2367
Round 1 / Group 1
24Sebastian Saavedra
61.2939
Round 1 / Group 2
http://www.indycar.com/News/2013/07/7-12-Qual-Results-Toronto-R1
 
With this being a standing start, I can see Bourdais and Will Power beating Franchitti into the first turn. I can also see this being a messy start since a good number of drivers don't have experience doing standing starts or haven't done them in a long time.

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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by Sparkz47 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:55 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:With this being a standing start, I can see Bourdais and Will Power beating Franchitti into the first turn. I can also see this being a messy start since a good number of drivers don't have experience doing standing starts or haven't done them in a long time.

Apparently they had a starting box set up at the end of the pitlane during practice so the drivers could work on their starts. I think they'll be fine.


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Post by f1fan12 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:56 pm

ENGAGE SATO BANZAI START!!!
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by crl on Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:19 am

Oh, Christ:

http://racing.ap.org/article/barnhart-filling-barfield-race-control

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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:20 am

crl wrote:Oh, Christ:

http://racing.ap.org/article/barnhart-filling-barfield-race-control

At least three stewards are helping him, including Arie Luyendyk.
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Post by f1fan12 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:04 am

crl wrote:Oh, Christ:

http://racing.ap.org/article/barnhart-filling-barfield-race-control

If Barnhart screws this up, I will laugh senselessly!
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:55 am

crl wrote:Oh, Christ:

http://racing.ap.org/article/barnhart-filling-barfield-race-control

 They couldn't have picked someone else to fill in for Barnhart?? Like flyingturns said, at least there'll be a couple of guys helping him out.

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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:19 pm

DarioWrecksLOL
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:42 pm

Well that's disappointing. I hope they'll actually try doing a standing start again for tomorrow's race.

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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:20 pm

What a move by Will Power.

EDIT: Nice one, Vautier. Couldn't gave Rahal a little bit more room?
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:57 pm

I think Kimball could have given Wilson more room right there.
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Post by Alta on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:25 pm

Okay race. Barnhart changing the rules again to Ganassi's benefit. My surprised face.
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Post by navycook75 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:26 pm

Alta wrote:Okay race. Barnhart changing the rules again to Ganassi's benefit. My surprised face.
He'll be out tomorrow...at least I hope.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Pretty good race, certainly up to par with what we've seen out of IndyCar this year. Law'd when Seabass did victory donuts for his runner-up finish. Freaking awesome.

The only black eye on this race was, who else, Brian Brainfart buzzkilling the finish by having the cars going single file, basically handing the victory to Dixon on a silver platter. Barnhart, do us all a favor and don't ever comeback, okay? You come back for one race and you screw up what would've potentially been a good finish. Thanks for nothing. No

Race #1 of the Honda Indy Toronto gets a 7.5/10.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:41 pm

Alta wrote:Okay race. Barnhart changing the rules again to Ganassi's benefit. My surprised face.

Looks like you spoke too soon.

As for the race, I thought the racing was exciting. A lot of stuff happening throughout the race. I can't say I'm surprised with the inconsistency of Brian Barnhart. It's messed up what happened to Dario just now, especially when Scott Dixon pulled the very same move on Power and never got penalized for it.

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Post by Michael29Shell on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:42 pm

I haven't seen what happened, but was the penalty that Justin Wilson got legit?
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Post by Alta on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:52 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:
Alta wrote:Okay race. Barnhart changing the rules again to Ganassi's benefit. My surprised face.

Looks like you spoke too soon.

As for the race, I thought the racing was exciting. A lot of stuff happening throughout the race. I can't say I'm surprised with the inconsistency of Brian Barnhart. It's messed up what happened to Dario just now, especially when Scott Dixon pulled the very same move on Power and never got penalized for it.
I'm stunned one of them got a penalty. But one still won.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:54 pm

...............

Dario got penalized for blocking, when he didn't even block? I'm not a Dario fan by any stretch of the imagination, but that's just ridiculous.

(sigh) Barnhart, seriously, get the fuck out. This type of shit is the reason why you were fired as race director in the first place. No
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:17 pm

Good racing out there. Good win, Dixon. An 8.0 out of 10, but Brian Barnhart should seriously GTFO. A blocking penalty on Dario? A single file restart with 1 to go? Really? Pathetic. Um... 
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Post by Michael29Shell on Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:27 pm

bigdc48 wrote:Good racing out there. Good win, Dixon. An 8.0 out of 10, but Brian Barnhart should seriously GTFO. A blocking penalty on Dario? A single file restart with 1 to go? Really? Pathetic. Um... 

 and a aggressive driving penalty on Wilson?
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Post by bigdc48 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:14 pm

Michael29Shell wrote:
bigdc48 wrote:Good racing out there. Good win, Dixon. An 8.0 out of 10, but Brian Barnhart should seriously GTFO. A blocking penalty on Dario? A single file restart with 1 to go? Really? Pathetic. Um... 

 and a aggressive driving penalty on Wilson?

Um... ? Like I said, GTFO, Brian "Brainfart". Lets hope Race 2 is better.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:58 pm

I seriously can't help but keep thinking that tomorrow's race is going to be a mess. It's just a gut feeling I have with some of the decisions Barnhart made today and how messy the 2nd Belle Isle race was last month.

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Post by f1fan12 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:13 pm

I wonder if the teams and drivers are going to give Beaux a standing ovation at Mid-Ohio?
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:16 pm

Barnhart...

YOU HAD ONE JOB
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Post by Michael29Shell on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:11 am

Sparkz47 wrote:Barnhart...

YOU HAD ONE JOB

 and he ruined it..Rolling Eyes
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Post by crl on Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:00 am

Dario got his 3rd place back on appeal. And there will be another attempt at a standing start today.

OK, so Beaux needed to be away for the weekend. That happens, that's fine. But, I can't help but think that if Bernard were still in charge, Barnhart would've been the last person he picked as a fill-in.

IndyCar is finally making some progress, and they screw it up by bringing this idiot back into the fold. Allowing people to cut the corner in Turn 5? Really, dumbass?

And for the first time in a LONG time, I was rooting for Bourdais, just so we could have another different winner in the fold. He absolutely got screwed on the final restart. Was Dixon scared that he was gonna miss out again, and decided to not play by the rules? I was expecting Seb to be in his usual, full-on crybaby bitch mode after what happened on the last restart, and he would've had a right to do so this time, but he was so happy about finally having another good run in that car. Dixon should consider himself fortunate. And is Dixon's wife the new Ashley Judd? Are we gonna start seeing her every time he's leading? Yes, she's attractive, but I want to see on-track action. Thank you.

Rant over. Hope to God something other than a Target car crosses the line first today.

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Post by crl on Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:03 am

Also, Briscoe has a broken wrist, and won't be racing today. Carlos Munoz will take his place.

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Post by bigdc48 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:51 am

I want to apologize from getting too personal in the Nationwide thread. I'll PM from now on.

Anyway, I hope Barnhart learned something from yesterday.....HOPEFULLY.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:13 am

>Dario wrecking Power in turn 3.

Wow, never seen that before.
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:49 am

Munoz will replace Briscoe for todays race.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:50 am

navycook75 wrote:Munoz will replace Briscoe for todays race.

 Which crl said 9 hours, 46 minutes ago.
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:54 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
navycook75 wrote:Munoz will replace Briscoe for todays race.

 Which crl said 9 hours, 46 minutes ago.
>9 hours ago

oops
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Post by JMac525 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:49 pm

While some calls were quite questionable, I think that was a fantastic race. Something exciting was happening all day long. I'm not much of a Bourdais fan personally, but it was pretty cool to see the guy running up front again.
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Post by f1fan12 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:49 pm

Is there a standing start for Race 2?
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:50 pm

f1fan12 wrote:Is there a standing start for Race 2?
I think so, hopefully they don't fuck it up.
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Post by f1fan12 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:52 pm

navycook75 wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:Is there a standing start for Race 2?
I think so, hopefully they don't fuck it up.

Oh Barnfart!
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:45 pm

Yay! They managed to do a standing start! Smile

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Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:46 pm

And i missed it....
What happened to Hinch?
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:48 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:And i missed it....
What happened to Hinch?
had problems before the start.

Hinch's season in a nutshell, either win or wreck.
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Post by bigdc48 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:51 pm

Yeah. The standing start happened, but Hinch is 3 laps down. Sad 
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:00 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:Yay! They managed to do a standing start! Smile
This.

Dixon's looking real good right now, although Helio is lurking back in 2nd.
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by bigdc48 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:45 pm

Pretty anonymous race than yesterday. Scott Dixon is literally kicking everyone's asses unless a caution comes out.

EDIT: And the yellow is out for James Jakes hitting the wall.
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Re: IndyCar - Honda Indy Toronto

Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:51 pm

Caution's now out.

Wow. This race has been a snoozer so far. Sleep Sleep Sleep Kind of surprising considering yesterday's race, but then again, Dixon was sitting on the pole, and that car was fast yesterday, so can't say I'm surprised.
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