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Post by RyanB06 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:14 am

http://www.fia.com/news/los-angeles-welcomes-formula-e-electric-car-racing

Ten cities, with the first race in Los Angeles. Could this be why Ecclestone wanted to buy the Long Beach GP?

Anyway, I give this a year at best. What say you?
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Post by f1fan12 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:32 am

“Los Angeles is the car capital of the world."

That line made me laugh...

I doubt it will even see the first race!
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Post by Mother of Invention on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:00 am

Another useless Junior Formula......



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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:21 am

Mother of Invention wrote:Another useless Junior Formula......




It's not supposed to be a junior formula.
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Post by Cardinals5 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:37 am

I kind of like the idea of an all-electric series. But it's probably going to be poorly done, so who cares?
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Post by Mystrsyko on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:23 am

Los Angeles the car capital of the world?

First fully electric car race in the world?
Spoiler:
It's not


Who wrote this crap?
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:43 am

Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.
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Post by Metro 6r4 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:40 pm

inb4 crap grid sizes.
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Post by PYLrulz on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:01 pm

I'm giving it a year... two max if they are lucky.
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Post by Lucstar88 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:56 pm

>yfw it becomes good & success
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:50 pm

The chassis and engines seem cheap and efficient, so I'd imagin there would be a fair few teams and drivers...
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Post by crl on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:25 pm

Here's a car in Moscow. Listen to the engine; sounds like something in a kid's toy:


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Post by navycook75 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:27 pm

This reminds me of Formula Lightning that ran from 1994-2004.

Fun Fact: Ohio State won most of the championships.

Also, I don't know why everybody is saying it's going to suck, I actually look foward to it.
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:28 pm

crl wrote:Here's a car in Moscow. Listen to the engine; sounds like something in a kid's toy:


That sound isn't the engine but rather the transmission, it's a very normal sound.
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Post by crl on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:29 pm

Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Isn't that what pretty much every form of motorsport already does?

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Post by Milan655 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:30 pm

crl wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Isn't that what pretty much every form of motorsport already does?

Never heard of Formula One or NASCAR driving through city streets. Not sure why everyone mocks it, this seems like a good idea and also a good step forward for motorsport with a more environmental outlook to engines. Better for the development of road cars as well.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:06 pm

Milan655 wrote:
crl wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Isn't that what pretty much every form of motorsport already does?

Never heard of Formula One or NASCAR driving through city streets. Not sure why everyone mocks it, this seems like a good idea and also a good step forward for motorsport with a more environmental outlook to engines. Better for the development of road cars as well.

This. Hopefully it'll get the backing it needs.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:13 pm

Milan655 wrote:Never heard of Formula One. . .driving through city streets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_America
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:29 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Never heard of Formula One. . .driving through city streets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_America

Who lives in Monaco or the UAE who is not a tax evading sportsmen or a rich sheikh? Singapore has a minute population and the likelyhood of the GP Port Imperial actually happening is virtually 0.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:42 pm

navycook75 wrote:This reminds me of Formula Lightning that ran from 1994-2004.

Fun Fact: Ohio State won most of the championships.

Also, I don't know why everybody is saying it's going to suck, I actually look foward to it.

Speaking of which:


Yeah. Whoever wrote that article needs to get his brain checked.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:21 pm

Milan655 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Never heard of Formula One. . .driving through city streets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_America

Who lives in Monaco or the UAE who is not a tax evading sportsmen or a rich sheikh? Singapore has a minute population and the likelyhood of the GP Port Imperial actually happening is virtually 0.

Singapore has a population of 5.3 million. On what scale is that minute? And I'm pretty sure Bernie won't give up so easily on the Port Imperial GP.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:50 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Never heard of Formula One. . .driving through city streets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_America

Who lives in Monaco or the UAE who is not a tax evading sportsmen or a rich sheikh? Singapore has a minute population and the likelyhood of the GP Port Imperial actually happening is virtually 0.

Singapore has a population of 5.3 million. On what scale is that minute? And I'm pretty sure Bernie won't give up so easily on the Port Imperial GP.
Albert Park is also a street circuit.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:13 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Albert Park is also a street circuit.

As is the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
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Post by PYLrulz on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:24 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Albert Park is also a street circuit.

As is the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

Then again, they are not your typical street circuit that is confined in a city like Monaco, Singapore, or Valencia. They are more roads that go about parkland
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Post by crl on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:44 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Never heard of Formula One. . .driving through city streets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_America

Abu Dhabi = not a street circuit.

Anyway, not to mention, the buttload of IndyCar street races (Long Beach, Detroit, Toronto, etc.).

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Post by LadyKathy on Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:26 am

list of F1 street Circuits not listed already
Adelaide 1985-1995 in the city
Long Beach 1976-1983
Detroit 1982-1988
Valencia 2008-2012
Phoenix 1989-1991
Fair Park (Dallas) 1984

plus more from even earlier from before the 80s



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Post by Milan655 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:17 am

I think you're missing the point..
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Post by Metro 6r4 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:42 am

BRING BACK THE BIRMINGHAM GP!
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:46 pm

Metro 6r4 wrote:BRING BACK THE BIRMINGHAM GP!
Hell yes. Birmingham SuperPrix FTW.

Milan655 wrote:I think you're missing the point..

Which is...?

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Post by Milan655 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:25 pm

Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Population:

F1=
Monaco-The Rich
Singapore-5.3 million, the majority of which would still be working at the time of the start of the Grand Prix.

Formula E (planned):
London-8million, plus another 8million in south eastern borough's.
Roma-2million, plus another 10million in the region.
Los Angeles-4million
Miami-500,000, with a large amount surrounding in nearby cities
Beijing-21million
etc.

Not to mention, tickets are likely to be a lot cheaper than the £100+ you pay in Formula One, not to mention no need for parking which usually costs around £40 as well...
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Post by RACECAR on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:11 pm

crl wrote:Here's a car in Moscow. Listen to the engine; sounds like something in a kid's toy:


Take every race car that has gearwhine, remove their engine sound and that's basically what you get. That's basically the transmission as pointed out.
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Post by Metro 6r4 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:26 pm

The problem with bringing Motorsport to the people is that you then end up with a bunch of idiots who don't know a damn thing about the sport and just generally annoy those who are devoted fans, this is the reason I don't tend to film bigger events, because of the large amounts of people who have decided to bring their spoilt, fat little 6 year old along who will bitch all day because there isn't a TV in front of his face. Or those who just stand in your view because they have the IQ of a golf club, unfortunately bringing Motorsport to the people has the downside of pushing real fans away and I know a huge amount of people who would back this up. Besides, a decent amount of the places that will host Formula E already have circuit's that are perfectly fine within relative distance. London has Brands for example, and the reason the other countries don't have many race circuits is probably because they're not interested, just look at the Turkish GP. The new tracks will be soulless, bland Tilkedromes anyway, and we don't need more of them.
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Post by Milan655 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:33 pm

Brands Hatch is around 1h30/2h away from Central London where I live, so it's a fairly large commute. Surely bringing those who don't know much about motorsport into this world could help the future of racing? Not saying I particularly like half of the inbred you mentioned, but if you bring the interest toward them perhaps it increases interest in motorsport and this makes it more attractive to sponsors and youngsters to become part of it. If you look at the size of Formula Ford and even then the British junior Karting Championship (Super1 Comer Cadet) the entries are low(er than they have been previously). Perhaps with more interest leads to more entries and therefore it's better further up the ladder as well. Maybe with the potentiality to see a larger grid in Formula One or Indy like they used too.
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Post by crl on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:19 pm

Milan655 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Population:

F1=
Monaco-The Rich
Singapore-5.3 million, the majority of which would still be working at the time of the start of the Grand Prix.

Formula E (planned):
London-8million, plus another 8million in south eastern borough's.
Roma-2million, plus another 10million in the region.
Los Angeles-4million
Miami-500,000, with a large amount surrounding in nearby cities
Beijing-21million
etc.

Not to mention, tickets are likely to be a lot cheaper than the £100+ you pay in Formula One, not to mention no need for parking which usually costs around £40 as well...

I hate to do this, but...

Central base of many British celebrities.
One word: HOLLYWOOD.
And, lastly, numerous rich drug cartels (ever seen Scarface?).

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Post by Milan655 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:39 pm

crl wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Looks good, it will bring Motorsport to the people.

Population:

F1=
Monaco-The Rich
Singapore-5.3 million, the majority of which would still be working at the time of the start of the Grand Prix.

Formula E (planned):
London-8million, plus another 8million in south eastern borough's.
Roma-2million, plus another 10million in the region.
Los Angeles-4million
Miami-500,000, with a large amount surrounding in nearby cities
Beijing-21million
etc.

Not to mention, tickets are likely to be a lot cheaper than the £100+ you pay in Formula One, not to mention no need for parking which usually costs around £40 as well...

I hate to do this, but...

Central base of many British celebrities.

Majority of London are citizens however. Doubt all 8million of those living in London are celebrities. Only celebrity that lives anywhere near me is Hugh Grant, and I've never seen him anywhere near his apartment.

EDIT: Actually, I believe he moved out.
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Post by Mystrsyko on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:18 pm

navycook75 wrote:This reminds me of Formula Lightning that ran from 1994-2004.

Fun Fact: Ohio State won most of the championships.

Also, I don't know why everybody is saying it's going to suck, I actually look foward to it.
I look forward to it as well, and hope it has lasting success. The motorsports world needs it.

I'm just not as optimistic as I should be because of the terrible job they did to "hype" it. I mean, basic facts people.
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