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Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Electric Wolf on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:07 pm

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2013/04/15/kennedy-making-his-own-name-in-nascar.html

...unless it still takes talent to win in K&N. If so, he might legitimately have earned it, but being the great-grandson of NASCAR's founder, not much is legit much to me.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Tanrar on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:28 pm

OH MY GOD HE'S RELATED TO SOMEONE THEREFORE HE ISN'T EARNING ANYTHING IN NASCAR RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Seriously. Why are you complaining about a K&N East driver? And yet James Buescher is married to the owner of Turner-Scott's daughter, and nobody complains about him... Hypocrisy running rampant up in here.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by navycook75 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:35 pm

James Buescher - Marries daughter of team owner, nobody says anything about him getting best equipment.

Ben Kennedy- Great Grandson of NASCAR's founder, people whine about him only getting the ride because of his family.

So every driver that is related to the founder of one of the biggest motorsports in the world means that he's only in a ride because of his great grandfather, it can't possibly be the fact that he wants to race at all...nope, he is in the ride because of his family. makes perfect sense.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Electric Wolf on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:40 pm

Buescher has actually been kept down in the Trucks by Turner (no idea why) and he's not exactly blood related. It's just that drivers like the Dillon brothers, Ryan Blaney and even Jeb Burton are all getting top-notch equipment because their fathers/grandfathers/relatives either owned or drove in NASCAR while a sea of other drivers just sit on the sidelines and watch. I feel bad for them, but that's the way things are. Someone has to be left out somewhere.

Navycook75 wrote:James Buescher - Marries daughter of team owner, nobody says anything about him getting best equipment.

Ben Kennedy- Great Grandson of NASCAR's founder, people whine about him only getting the ride because of his family.

So every driver that is related to the founder of one of the biggest motorsports in the world means that he's only in a ride because of his great grandfather, it can't possibly be the fact that he wants to race at all...nope, he is in the ride because of his family. makes perfect sense.

Obviously people WANT to race, but I'm saying that I feel like some of these rides aren't being given on racing passion alone. It would be absolutely awesome if they were, but again, that's the way things work.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by navycook75 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:42 pm

Casey Lester wrote:Buescher has actually been kept down in the Trucks by Turner (no idea why) and he's not exactly blood related. It's just that drivers like the Dillon brothers, Ryan Blaney and even Jeb Burton are all getting top-notch equipment because their fathers/grandfathers/relatives either owned or drove in NASCAR while a sea of other drivers just sit on the sidelines and watch. I feel bad for them, but that's the way things are. Someone has to be left out somewhere.

Navycook75 wrote:James Buescher - Marries daughter of team owner, nobody says anything about him getting best equipment.

Ben Kennedy- Great Grandson of NASCAR's founder, people whine about him only getting the ride because of his family.

So every driver that is related to the founder of one of the biggest motorsports in the world means that he's only in a ride because of his great grandfather, it can't possibly be the fact that he wants to race at all...nope, he is in the ride because of his family. makes perfect sense.

Obviously people WANT to race, but I'm saying that I feel like some of these rides aren't being given on racing passion alone. It would be absolutely awesome if they were, but again, that's the way things work.
So if they aren't given on racing passion, what's the point of racing in the first place?
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Tanrar on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:47 pm

Casey Lester wrote:Buescher has actually been kept down in the Trucks by Turner (no idea why) and he's not exactly blood related. It's just that drivers like the Dillon brothers, Ryan Blaney and even Jeb Burton are all getting top-notch equipment because their fathers/grandfathers/relatives either owned or drove in NASCAR while a sea of other drivers just sit on the sidelines and watch. I feel bad for them, but that's the way things are. Someone has to be left out somewhere.

Navycook75 wrote:James Buescher - Marries daughter of team owner, nobody says anything about him getting best equipment.

Ben Kennedy- Great Grandson of NASCAR's founder, people whine about him only getting the ride because of his family.

So every driver that is related to the founder of one of the biggest motorsports in the world means that he's only in a ride because of his great grandfather, it can't possibly be the fact that he wants to race at all...nope, he is in the ride because of his family. makes perfect sense.

Obviously people WANT to race, but I'm saying that I feel like some of these rides aren't being given on racing passion alone. It would be absolutely awesome if they were, but again, that's the way things work.

See previous statement.

At this point, you're just bitching for the sake of bitching. So what if the Dillon brothers/Jeb Burton/Ben Kennedy/Ryan Blaney are related? There's a reason they're racing in NASCAR, and that is TO FUCKING RACE. They're not here just because of their name. They're here to race. Simple as that. Do you even think they'd be in the sport if they weren't fucking there to race? It's not like any of them are untalented. You wanna talk about people being given everything? Joey Logano. He has shown NO promise up until this year, only won one semi-legitimate race in the #20 car, where as Tony Stewart took two championships with that car, and Matt Kenseth won with it in his third start. People like Austin and Ty Dillon, Jeb Burton, sure they're related to a prominent NASCAR driver, but that doesn't have a damn thing to do with why they're racing.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Electric Wolf on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:00 pm

@Dan I meant that they are given because of racing passion, but the other half would be family relations.

Tanrar wrote:
See previous statement.

At this point, you're just bitching for the sake of bitching. So what if the Dillon brothers/Jeb Burton/Ben Kennedy/Ryan Blaney are related? There's a reason they're racing in NASCAR, and that is TO FUCKING RACE. They're not here just because of their name. They're here to race. Simple as that. Do you even think they'd be in the sport if they weren't fucking there to race? It's not like any of them are untalented. You wanna talk about people being given everything? Joey Logano. He has shown NO promise up until this year, only won one semi-legitimate race in the #20 car, where as Tony Stewart took two championships with that car, and Matt Kenseth won with it in his third start. People like Austin and Ty Dillon, Jeb Burton, sure they're related to a prominent NASCAR driver, but that doesn't have a damn thing to do with why they're racing.

Yes, captain, sir. But again, I didn't mean that they didn't want to race. I just personally don't think that's 100% of the reason. And yeah, I probably am just bitching for the sake of it.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Rykia on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Kennedy has actually been fast in all the races I've seen him in, so I don't see a problem with this.

By the way, with that logic, Mixed Martial Earnhardt woulda had a top notch ride long ago.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by RealRacer4 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:38 pm

I tend to despise part of the France family but I've honestly lost respect from the posts you made in this thread. We know that Jeb Burton, Ty/Austin Dillion, and Ryan Blaney are 2nd or 3rd generation drivers, but they're aren't slouches like Steven Wallace or Bobby Hamilton Jr. They've proven themselves they can actually drive a race car too!

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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Alta on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:50 pm

Unless he does something really douchey in the big three. There's nothing to hate him for.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by RACECAR on Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:25 am

Alta wrote:Unless he does something really douchey in the big three. There's nothing to hate him for.

This.

By that assumption. Jeffery should've been in top equipment long ago.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by BWard on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:59 am

This is kind of a similar story to how Dale Earnhardt Jr. got his ride at DEI in the first place. I don't think Dale Sr. did it just because he wanted to try and get something going for his son, but I do think it had something to do with the success Dale Jr had in the formerly known Busch Series, winning both championships in 1998 and 1999.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Mother of Invention on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:30 pm

I wish I wasn't on my craptop that doesn't have Photoshop installed. I just had the perfect Willy Wonka meme idea.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:49 pm

I raced in Junior Sedans against the grandson of the President of Junior Sedans, and did he get free passes into higher series, better eqiupment etc.? Nope. Infact he get treated the worst out of all the drivers, and eventually he quit racing.

Being related to higher power =/= special privlages in racing.
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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by Cynon on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:57 am

Rykia_RKXK wrote:Kennedy has actually been fast in all the races I've seen him in, so I don't see a problem with this.

By the way, with that logic, Mixed Martial Earnhardt woulda had a top notch ride long ago.

See, I wish Mixed Martial Jeffrey Earnhardt would become NASCAR's version of an enforcer in hockey -- because then when he fights he can show off that MMA training.

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Re: Another free pass into NASCAR being given out...

Post by f1fan12 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:28 am

This whole story kind of reminds me of how Ed Carpenter got into Indycar. If Tony George wasn't his step-father, I would have bet he would have lost an Indycar ride back in 07-08. I really can't remember a solid performance he had in his first 4 or 5 seasons. Now I don't know if this is coincidence or not, but he got better once step-daddy got ousted. But without TG, I would doubt he'd be in Indycar.
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