Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Page 3 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:39 pm

That comment Logano made was poorly timed he likely meant Denny needed to be wrecked, i totally agree with with RACERCAR
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by SpeedDemon37 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:41 pm

So much to take in from today's race. Joey's comments were certainly childish and a little uncalled for, but I don't think the way he raced was. He and Hamlin were racing for the win, and considering what's gone on between the two of them the past week, I don't think he was going to be too tolerant of him anyways. Nevertheless, I really hope Denny's okay.

Tony Stewart just lost a ton of the respect I had for him. Kurt Busch (who, by the way, had an awesome surge at the end) is the only person that I would ever expect to say something like that... maybe...
avatar
SpeedDemon37
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1641
Join date : 2012-05-11
Age : 20
Location : Michigan, USA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:44 pm

Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News
avatar
flyingturns89
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2717
Join date : 2011-08-09
Age : 23
Location : Pennsylvania

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:45 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News

This is NASCAR, where their inconsistency is BAD
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:50 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News

No "I hope he's okay"; no "I'm sorry I sent him to the hospital"; not even a "I didn't mean to hurt him". Any and all respect I ever had for Logano (which wasn't a lot to begin with) has just been thrown out the window.
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:54 pm

Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:58 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...

It's a really awkward spot to crash into, so I bet that, while they thought people would smack it from time to time, they weren't expecting someone to slam head-on into it like Hamlin did.
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by RACECAR on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...

I don't get that either. How did they not think maybe that part might need to be fixed, especially with that incline that leads right into the wall?
avatar
RACECAR
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 815
Join date : 2011-08-07
Age : 29
Location : Dallas, TX

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/Spyker88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Rykia on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:19 pm

I fail to understand how Logano running into Hamlin going into three wasn't intentional. He clearly said in his interview, "He shouldn't have wrecked me, that's what he deserves," and the only time I saw him get loose was after he hit Hamlin. Logano's comment after they told him Hamlin was taken to the hospital was very childish. He should be penalized for that, in my opinion.

The thing with Stewart, I get why he's mad, but I don't think he needed to throw punches at Logano. It's one thing to block on a restart, and its another to nearly run the person you're blocking into the grass. Stewart's antics were still a bit extreme.
avatar
Rykia
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2550
Join date : 2011-08-09
Age : 20
Location : Cornfields.

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:54 pm

Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.
avatar
Spannerhead29 (Nelson)
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3418
Join date : 2012-04-29
Age : 23
Location : Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

View user profile http://facebook.com/pages/Spannerhead-Racing/194183156902

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alpineopossum on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:06 pm

As Boris Said once, er, said, Logano was totally unprofessional...and he's a chump. The comments he made were unacceptable. There's a growing group of drivers who are itching to go Jamie Melo on his sorry a**. Stewart, Logano, and Hamlin should all be given stern penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct.
avatar
Alpineopossum
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1855
Join date : 2011-08-08
Age : 21
Location : Cleveland

View user profile http://ohioperspective.wordpress.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:20 pm

It looks like Sliced Bread

•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

might be toast.

EDIT: I realize how this might seem like I'm making light of the incident. I'm making fun of Logano's apparent meltdown and snapping under the pressure. I will not remove it even though I realize I'm a dolt, so others may learn from my stupidity.


Last edited by Cardinals5 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:21 am; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Cardinals5
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1251
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 26
Location : Sterling Heights, MI

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by crl on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:33 pm

I'm not a Hamlin fan, but I hope he's all right. He certainly didn't "deserve" to be taken out like that. As for Logano, I knew he'd mess this up. He does not fit my definition of a Penske driver. He is nowhere near Kez's level in terms of talent or guts. When The Captain wises up and tosses Logano overboard, he needs to go back to ARCA and stay there. He's not even worthy of a ride at Front Row alongside The Davids of Mediocrity.

_________________
Norah O'Donnell - the only reason to watch CBS This Morning.
Josef Newgarden's #1 Tennessee-based EFR fan.
EFR's #1 fan of Karen Gillan and Milana Vayntrub.
avatar
crl
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2518
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 32
Location : Nashville, TN

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by BigDaddy24 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:40 pm

What Logano did was a bitch move, and his comments were way out of line. He just became my most hated driver in NASCAR, if not in all of motorsport.
avatar
BigDaddy24
Development Series Rookie
Development Series Rookie

Posts : 250
Join date : 2013-01-23
Age : 21
Location : Philadelphia, PA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:09 pm

Cardinals5 wrote:It looks like Sliced Bread

•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

might be toast.
>:[

avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:10 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

That's a decent idea...
NELSON 4 NASCAR CEO!!! lol
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by RACECAR on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:13 pm

crl wrote:I'm not a Hamlin fan, but I hope he's all right. He certainly didn't "deserve" to be taken out like that. As for Logano, I knew he'd mess this up. He does not fit my definition of a Penske driver. He is nowhere near Kez's level in terms of talent or guts. When The Captain wises up and tosses Logano overboard, he needs to go back to ARCA and stay there. He's not even worthy of a ride at Front Row alongside The Davids of Mediocrity.

Funny thing is, it was Keseloski that lobbied Penske to get Logano. So the question I initially had of "what exactly does Brad see in him?" suddenly comes back up.
avatar
RACECAR
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 815
Join date : 2011-08-07
Age : 29
Location : Dallas, TX

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/Spyker88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:15 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News
Before i chastise Logano, That quote is so similar to the 1st that i think it's actually the first comment.

If not then Logano can GTFO, There's not realizing someone is injured and then there's being a spoiled brat. Sure it was hard racing but don't be a damn twat about it afterwards.

If Nascar wants to test how violent of a wreck you can have at Martinsville then they'll do jack shit but if they want to break up these childish games then they'll bring down the hammer on all three (if Hamlin isn't going to be sidelined already)
avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by kensethfan on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:16 pm

RACECAR wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...

I don't get that either. How did they not think maybe that part might need to be fixed, especially with that incline that leads right into the wall?

I was wondering the same thing when I first saw the accident. Why was that incline there to begin with? In my opinion, that's poor planning. I guess they thought nobody would get themselves into a position to hit a wall that far out of the way, but the simple answer to that is they should've learned from the Daytona dirt embankment in the late 80's and early 90's, and the Bristol gate that Mike Harmon and Michael Waltrip hit in Turn 2.

Alta wrote:
Cardinals5 wrote:It looks like Sliced Bread

•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

might be toast.
>:[


Yeah, that. ^
avatar
kensethfan
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1024
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 19
Location : Living in a box under the stairs in the corner of the basement in the house half a block away from Jerry's Bait Shop (You know the place).

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by PYLrulz on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:19 pm

flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News

With a comment like that, he now deserves ANY and ALL forms of retaliation
avatar
PYLrulz
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2050
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 33
Location : Mountville, PA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by kensethfan on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:20 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News

With a comment like that, he now deserves ANY and ALL forms of retaliation

I remember seeing someone on FaceBook say that all debts will be settled at Martinsville...
avatar
kensethfan
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1024
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 19
Location : Living in a box under the stairs in the corner of the basement in the house half a block away from Jerry's Bait Shop (You know the place).

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:20 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:23 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:24 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
flyingturns89 wrote:Logano has made another comment, now knowing that Hamlin is hurt, and it's as ignorant as the first.

It was just racing for the lead. I guess we're even now. He'll think twice before he does something next time.

Something tells me he'll be getting the "This sport was here before, and will be after you. We don't need you." talk from NASCAR.

Comment via Sporting News

With a comment like that, he now deserves ANY and ALL forms of retaliation

I feel like that was exactly what he said during the interview and it's just been reposted on Sporting News. I could be wrong, though.

Actually, reading the article on Sporting News, that's exactly what it seems like.

NASCAR might do something about this. Or they might not. For all I can tell, they might fine Denny for not doing a post-race interview. Honestly, who knows with them any more. Logano won't get penalized as long as Denny can race, but he's going to have a hard time doing well, now that he has a target on his back bigger than the one on Montoya's.
avatar
Cardinals5
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1251
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 26
Location : Sterling Heights, MI

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:26 pm

By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Mystrsyko on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:27 pm

RACECAR wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...

I don't get that either. How did they not think maybe that part might need to be fixed, especially with that incline that leads right into the wall?
One thing I've learned from watching 10 years' worth of NR2003 crash videos is that when designing a track, always assume that everything will be hit from every angle at some point.
avatar
Mystrsyko
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 530
Join date : 2011-08-14
Age : 29
Location : Springfield, IL

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:27 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...
Matt Kenseth says Hi.
avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:29 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?
I would honestly put Hamlin on Probation. Cause if he's 100% by Marty i'm almost sure we're seeing Part 3 of this crazy feud.
avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:31 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...

Spinning a guy around once at Bristol is miles out from wrecking someone into a concrete wall head-on at a 1.5 mile track, sending him to the hospital, and then saying "that's what he gets". Denny might have made the first move, but he's been trying his best to ignore it since then, and shouldn't be held responsible for this.


Last edited by Sparkz47 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:31 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:
RACECAR wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:Thought of something...
WHY wasn't there a SAFER barrier on the inside wall? Did they really didn't think that anyone wouldn't crash there...

I don't get that either. How did they not think maybe that part might need to be fixed, especially with that incline that leads right into the wall?
One thing I've learned from watching 10 years' worth of NR2003 crash videos is that when designing a track, always assume that everything will be hit from every angle at some point.

That would be common sense, which often gets overruled by money when it comes to safety in motorsports. Thankfully that trend seems to be reversing but the attitude of "Well if someone hits this, it would hurt a lot but how likely is that?" still prevails.
avatar
Cardinals5
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1251
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 26
Location : Sterling Heights, MI

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:37 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...

Spinning a guy around once at Bristol is miles out from wrecking someone into a concrete wall head-on at a 1.5 mile track, sending him to the hospital, and then saying "that's what he gets". Denny might have made the first move, but he's been trying his best to ignore it since then, and shouldn't be held responsible for this.

I agree with the comment... but
1. That was a complete coincidence that Hamlin hit exactly that spot... Harmon @ Bristol (I Think)
2. There should of been a SAFER barrier (or a least something) on that wall
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Mystrsyko on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:42 pm

I've always believed that an outcome-based punishment system should be used. Meaning that "roughing up" a competitor's car isn't going to get you as tough a punishment as crashing them out of the race. And that gets less of a punishment than causing a crash that takes out multiple cars. No driver intends for their actions to go that far, but they have no control over whether or not they will, so it acts as a deterrent. Pulling in front of someone to fight them (like Stewart) would be much more common than hooking someone head on into a wall (like Kyle Busch) because the former has almost zero chance of having unintended consequences.
avatar
Mystrsyko
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 530
Join date : 2011-08-14
Age : 29
Location : Springfield, IL

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:46 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:I've always believed that an outcome-based punishment system should be used. Meaning that "roughing up" a competitor's car isn't going to get you as tough a punishment as crashing them out of the race. And that gets less of a punishment than causing a crash that takes out multiple cars. No driver intends for their actions to go that far, but they have no control over whether or not they will, so it acts as a deterrent. Pulling in front of someone to fight them (like Stewart) would be much more common than hooking someone head on into a wall (like Kyle Busch) because the former has almost zero chance of having unintended consequences.

How about ruining a driver's championship hopes? *coughs*
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:50 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...

I take it that you haven't heard the story about his dad putting so much money into getting Logano getting into NASCAR. Tony Stewart said the same thing about it in one of his interviews after the race.

Honestly, Joey Logano has my blood boiling at this point from his comments alone. He has no right to say such dumb remarks. He drove like hell to stay up front, I'll give him that, but he needs to grow up (I'm sure a few drivers are planning on taking care of that themselves at some point). It's safe to say that after today, Logano's officially #1 on my most hated drivers list.

RealRacer4
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2090
Join date : 2011-12-18
Age : 24

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by crl on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:53 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...

He's here because of his rich daddy. Talent has nothing to do with it. See how he flopped at Gibbs? How'd the driver before him do? And how's the one after him doing? Logano ain't shit. Fontana's not exactly a track that tests driver skill. Maybe in and IndyCar, but not a NASCAR car.


Last edited by crl on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:53 pm; edited 1 time in total

_________________
Norah O'Donnell - the only reason to watch CBS This Morning.
Josef Newgarden's #1 Tennessee-based EFR fan.
EFR's #1 fan of Karen Gillan and Milana Vayntrub.
avatar
crl
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2518
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 32
Location : Nashville, TN

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Mystrsyko on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:53 pm

Lucstar88 wrote:[How about ruining a driver's championship hopes? *coughs*
The list is really endless. The sanctioning body can have as many "layers" of punishment as they like. I always hate how in road racing drivers get "avoidable contact" penalties when the contact in question affects neither car. But then in some cases a driver causes a huge crash that eliminates many cars, perhaps injures someone, and they either get out free or get an "avoidable contact" penalty. In this case, if NASCAR determines that Logano intentionally drove into the side of Denny Hamlin, thus causing the crash, he would receive a penalty like "intentionally causing a crash, resulting in injury", which would carry a more severe punishment than if Hamlin had hopped out just fine.
avatar
Mystrsyko
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 530
Join date : 2011-08-14
Age : 29
Location : Springfield, IL

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:54 pm

Mystrsyko wrote:I've always believed that an outcome-based punishment system should be used. Meaning that "roughing up" a competitor's car isn't going to get you as tough a punishment as crashing them out of the race. And that gets less of a punishment than causing a crash that takes out multiple cars. No driver intends for their actions to go that far, but they have no control over whether or not they will, so it acts as a deterrent. Pulling in front of someone to fight them (like Stewart) would be much more common than hooking someone head on into a wall (like Kyle Busch) because the former has almost zero chance of having unintended consequences.

Well, pulling in front of someone can cause issues (see Harvick v. Busch at Darlington in 2011).

I think "boys, have at it" is fine in principle. It's allowed the drivers to be more aggressive and actually fosters rivalries, which the sport needs. Unfortunately, it also leads to crap like what happened today.

Plus, I don't think NASCAR would risk the TV ratings bump that will inevitably come from a controversial finish. That's why they hype every nonsensical "feud", in hopes that it will blow up like Joey v. Denny seems to have.

Besides, if Gordon didn't get suspended after Phoenix for a deliberate incident, Logano will not be suspended for an incident that CAN be argued as accidental. Not that I trust NASCAR to fairly dole out punishments for anything.




Of course this is NASCAR we're talking about, so who knows.
avatar
Cardinals5
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1251
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 26
Location : Sterling Heights, MI

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:57 pm

crl wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...

He's here because of his rich daddy. Talent has nothing to do with it. See how he flopped at Gibbs? How'd the driver before him do? And how's the one after him doing? Logano ain't shit. Fontana's not exactly a track that tests driver skill. Maybe in and IndyCar, but not a NASCAR car.

K didn't know that... but he's honestly doing better at Penske this year, than getting the short end of the stick @ JGR (in CUP)
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:14 am

Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...

Spinning a guy around once at Bristol is miles out from wrecking someone into a concrete wall head-on at a 1.5 mile track, sending him to the hospital, and then saying "that's what he gets". Denny might have made the first move, but he's been trying his best to ignore it since then, and shouldn't be held responsible for this.

I agree with the comment... but
1. That was a complete coincidence that Hamlin hit exactly that spot... Harmon @ Bristol (I Think)
2. There should of been a SAFER barrier (or a least something) on that wall
You all seem to fail to realise that technically everyone is parked next week.
avatar
Spannerhead29 (Nelson)
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3418
Join date : 2012-04-29
Age : 23
Location : Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

View user profile http://facebook.com/pages/Spannerhead-Racing/194183156902

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:18 am

Mystrsyko wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:[How about ruining a driver's championship hopes? *coughs*
The list is really endless. The sanctioning body can have as many "layers" of punishment as they like. I always hate how in road racing drivers get "avoidable contact" penalties when the contact in question affects neither car. But then in some cases a driver causes a huge crash that eliminates many cars, perhaps injures someone, and they either get out free or get an "avoidable contact" penalty. In this case, if NASCAR determines that Logano intentionally drove into the side of Denny Hamlin, thus causing the crash, he would receive a penalty like "intentionally causing a crash, resulting in injury", which would carry a more severe punishment than if Hamlin had hopped out just fine.

I assume whether the incident was intentional or not would always factor into it, correct? Otherwise, drivers in situations like Sterling Marlin in 2001 would have to be kicked out of the sport.


Last edited by Sparkz47 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:19 am; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Lucstar88 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:18 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...

Spinning a guy around once at Bristol is miles out from wrecking someone into a concrete wall head-on at a 1.5 mile track, sending him to the hospital, and then saying "that's what he gets". Denny might have made the first move, but he's been trying his best to ignore it since then, and shouldn't be held responsible for this.

I agree with the comment... but
1. That was a complete coincidence that Hamlin hit exactly that spot... Harmon @ Bristol (I Think)
2. There should of been a SAFER barrier (or a least something) on that wall
You all seem to fail to realise that technically everyone is parked next week.

Wow... *pulls white flag & waves it*
avatar
Lucstar88
Legend
Legend

Posts : 2690
Join date : 2012-07-24
Age : 22
Location : Canada

View user profile http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLucstar88

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Sparkz47 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:20 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:You all seem to fail to realise that technically everyone is parked next week.

Damn it, Nelson, that was good.
avatar
Sparkz47
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1392
Join date : 2011-09-17
Age : 21
Location : Equestria

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:18 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Lucstar88 wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Logano, Stewart, and Hamlin should be all parked next week.

Wait, why should Hamlin be parked? What did he do?

Cause he started all of this s*** @ Bristol...

Spinning a guy around once at Bristol is miles out from wrecking someone into a concrete wall head-on at a 1.5 mile track, sending him to the hospital, and then saying "that's what he gets". Denny might have made the first move, but he's been trying his best to ignore it since then, and shouldn't be held responsible for this.

I agree with the comment... but
1. That was a complete coincidence that Hamlin hit exactly that spot... Harmon @ Bristol (I Think)
2. There should of been a SAFER barrier (or a least something) on that wall
You all seem to fail to realise that technically everyone is parked next week.

>tfw literally no racing at all next week. Sad
avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by bartman97 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:47 am

I could have won this race, but I was too worried about wrecking Denny - Joey Logano

I could have won this race, but I was too worried about wrecking Joey - Denny Hamlin

All I have to say about this ordeal.
avatar
bartman97
Regular Contender
Regular Contender

Posts : 805
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 20
Location : Brisbane

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by navycook75 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:19 am

bartman97 wrote:I could have won this race, but I was too worried about wrecking Denny - Joey Logano

I could have won this race, but I was too worried about wrecking Joey - Denny Hamlin

All I have to say about this ordeal.
I won this race, it seems that Denny and Joey were too worried about wrecking each other.-Kyle Busch
avatar
navycook75
Legend
Legend

Posts : 4918
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 28
Location : Portland, New York

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by BWard on Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:44 am

Also were there any reports on any kind of injury that Denny Hamlin might have suffered?
avatar
BWard
Legend
Legend

Posts : 5823
Join date : 2012-01-11
Age : 20
Location : Northampton, UK

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-G6rEsg8Pbu_eZJLyzepYg

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by Alta on Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:45 am

BWardboy88 wrote:Also were there any reports on any kind of injury that Denny Hamlin might have suffered?
Back pain
avatar
Alta
Legend
Legend

Posts : 3995
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 94
Location : San Francisco, California

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by AntmanB on Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:58 am

Yeah, Hes Being Kept Overnight.

Expect Mcdowell to be in the 11 if Hamlin cant Race at Martinsville, but i expect him to be in the car , especially since the next race is in 2 weeks.
avatar
AntmanB
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1459
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 25

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by NeverNeutral on Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:08 am

I highly doubt McDowell would be put in the car when JGR has Sadler now, although I wish that was the case...
avatar
NeverNeutral
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1558
Join date : 2012-05-10
Age : 20

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Auto Club 400 - Sprint Cup

Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:48 am

Lucstar88 wrote:By The Way....
Logano had a great race, better than Keselowski, Logano has the talent... that's what got him here (NASCAR) in the 1st place...

No... What got him in NASCAR was money. His dad bought him a ride at Joe Gibbs to start his career. Talent did not get Logano to NASCAR, it did however get Brad Keselowski here. Logano has been in good quality rides his entire career whereas Brad Keselowski started driving Trucks for his dad's small teams and then went to Nationwide a few years later and ran in start & park cars.
avatar
PKligBKFan
Champion
Champion

Posts : 1381
Join date : 2011-08-06
Age : 21
Location : Canada. :)

View user profile http://twitter.com/#!/ParkerKligfan29

Back to top Go down

Page 3 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum