2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

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2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Spen on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:43 pm

Just a silly little time-wasting project I did a while back. The exact system used is the 1975-2003 version, without the extra bonus points for race wins. Karjala and Indy still get double points.

1. Tom Delgado 2592
2. Marcos Leonard 2576
3. Chris Johaanes 2525
4. Louis Kingston 2499
5. Adrien Devereux 2493
6. Leonid Roderick 2465
7. Zelda Ashby 2428
8. Yamino Tenchi 2288
9. Arto Kekkonen 2283
10. Scott Bates 2258
11. Ethan Everett 2254
12. Franz Redlich 2194
13. Avery Holtzman 2167
14. Luciano Soveral 2157
15. Alan Hodges 2129
16. Scott Hamilton 2125
17. Yuliya Nosova 2097
18. Gaspar de Sousa 2080
19. Mathias Taube 2049
20. Dale Roswell 1999
21. Zach Duff 1963
22. Michael Sykes 1940
23. Robert Dorian 1932
24. Alexis Rainsford 1887
25. Tony Durbin 1862
26. Mike Whitmore 1861
27. Bobby Porteau 1791
28. Jacques Bouvier 1620
29. Kurt Plissken 1619
30. Scott Stuedler 1602
31. Charlie Waters 1269
32. Ian Cooper 1246
33. Leon Keniston 1193
34. Kraig Mummert 992
35. Woody Watts 907
36. Packer Carroll 886
37. Mika Tervo 841
38. Mikhail Pulyakov 791
39. Carlos Donzelo 788
40. Palmer Stiles 757
41. Divina Hinton 731
42. Chris Davenport 695
43. Nils Tolonen 655
44. Kevin Dwyer 652
45. Dan McKay 569
46. Craig Jonser 534
47. Tyson Lautenschlager 502
48. Yevgeny Kuznetsov 484
49. Allie Riggs 474
50. Stefan Halvari 461
51. Tyrone Stanley 460
52. Axel Andersson 459
53. Matt Taylor 450
54. Curtis Darcy 448
55. Jose Louis Martinez 395
56. Taylor Silverman 391
57. Morgan Hamburg 364
58. Chris Allen 360
59. Rachel Rainsford 358
60. Bob Stephans 334
61. Elina Varjo 332
62. Azuma Kazeyama 315
63. Shane Lake 310
Juho Kivela 310
65. Markus Grondahl 284
Patrick Henderson 284
67. Danny Savin 282
68. Erik Bohlender 276
69. Treven Terrell 261
70. Vladimir Simonov 254
71. Mikko Laukkunen 242
72. Markus Teravainen 236
73. Mikhael Hesso 230
74. Cesar Vila Nova 225
75. Vijay Pushanda 224
76. Greg Woodard 210
77. Michael Madrigal 204
78. Kevin Monroe 200
79. Erik Olsen 197
80. Jim Hayes 192
81. Cameron Taylor 189
82. Vitaly Karpenko 183
83. Gerald Johnson 182
84. Hans Eichel 176
Troy Adams 176
86. Vitaly Lavrin 170
87. John Parker, Jr. 161
88. Ben Atkins 155
89. Antero Virtanen 152
90. Janusz Pisarczyk 146
91. David Krikorian 146
92. Niko Keranen 140
93. Blake Camphausen 130
94. Jacob Kard 115
95. Luca Scalora 107
96. Timo Strack 106
97. Joao Paolo Vidal 100
Rene Recarmier 100
99. Belen Koumoundorous 97
Anthony Griffith 97
101. Ryan Matthews 94
102. Leslie Riggs 91
103. Denis Predikin 85
104. Jason Teller, Jr. 85
105. Gordon Kim 82
106. Stuart Sandoval 79
Lev Vladimirovic 79
A.J. Young 79
109. Ike Durbin 76
110. Andreas Laporta 67
111. Paul Green 58
112. Tom Bryja 55
Josef Nowicki 55
Nick Dawson 55
115. Hamilton West 49
116. Jacob Eichholtz 49
117. Alexey Stoyanovich 43
118. Brian Sendack 40
119. Takumi Nagata 12

For some reason, I listed the Independant's trophy points by team, not driver. And off the top of my head, I can't recall who drove each one, so it'll just get listed this way.

1. Palmer Stiles Racing 479
2. M&J Racing 474
3. Alexisports 452
4. Fortner Motorsports 450 (The 121)
5. Racing For the Community 402
6. McDermott Motorsports 400 (The 69)
7. Motorsport Hermanos Gutierrez 395
8. Finntech 392 (The 12)
9. Fortner Motorsports 391 (The 122)
10. McDermott Motorsports 364 (The 68)
11. Mitchell & Sons Racing 358
12. Finntech 355 (The 22)
13. Team Thunder 334
14. Alex Harrison Racing 310
15. Ian Masterson Racing 232
16. RUS Autosports 91

Volpi's #1 easily won the owner's championship, with 2713 points.

If each race counted the same, Chris Johaanes would have won the title with 2453 points.


Last edited by Cynon on Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:41 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Why is it that I'm the only one that can spell Adrien Devereux properly? :()
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Magus978 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:00 pm

*accepts 2011 Driver's Championship*

This is the greatest moment of my life!!! I need to thank Nemoto, TirADE, Gold Star Security...*gets told something in his ear*

Wait, this isn't the championship? Just a what if???

*awkward pause*

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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by f1fan12 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:45 am

I'll take 75th
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Cynon on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:05 am

Thanks for doing the math. Very Happy

Scott Steudler and Yuliya Nosova's placings are proof-positive why I don't award points to the whole field (or in English, award points for simply starting). In Steudler's case, its because he spent most of 2011 way back with people he had no business racing with considering that the 23/64 got more A class draws than anyone else. Steudler racked up three DNQs (but started Indy in Savin's place), and Nosova usually ran nowhere but managed to sneak in a few points finishes here and there.

Steudler is still last of all the full-time cars here with 1602 points compared to Tom Delgado's 2592. In actuality, he wound up with 90 compared to Adrien Devereux's 463.

Let's punch the numbers. He wound up with 61% of Delgado's points haul despite being pretty bad most of the time. With the actual points system he wound up with only 19% of the champion's points tally. Steudler only finished in the top 10 twice and retired from nine races.

Nosova's figures are even more telling. She had 81% (rounded up from 80.9) of Tom Delgado's points haul, only cracked the top ten twice, and had six DNFs. Translation? Nosova is only 17th because she was running at the finish. In the actual points system (she ended up with 105), she had 27% of Devereux's points haul and was a distant 33rd in the driver's points -- only four points ahead of Curtis Darcy (started two races and could have won Indy).

Furthermore, Nosova is behind Charlie Waters, who when he wasn't wrecking was actually pretty fast, Independent's Trophy winner Palmer Stiles, Super-Sub Kraig Mummert, and the master of scoring points in special events, Ian Cooper. She's well ahead of all of them in this system.

Thought I'd share that. Cool

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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by navycook75 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:07 am

Tom Delgado is the uncrowned 2011 TMMC champion.....screw the french guy.
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Dan Mackay on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:30 am

best 45th place ever, lols
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by BWard on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:40 am

I know none of my drivers are in this, but this is very well created. Nice work. Wink
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Spen on Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:41 am

Nosova also benefited from having the eighth highest point total in the double-point events. Yeah, with an average finish of 20th in those two races, she scored more points than 3/4's of the field. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of the point system, or of just how inconsistent the rest of the field is. Probably both.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the late Scott Hamilton. Before his untimly demise, he was running 12th in points, and had been flirting with the top ten all season long, despite only having one top ten finish. Basically, he'd coasted by on finishing 18th on a regular basis. (Much like Kevin Harvick in Cup this year. In the last 19 races, Harvick's finished between 10th and 16th 16 times.)

However, there are a few drivers who I think are more accurately represented with this system. Take Kurt Plissken for example. He had 8 DNF's, as well as three DNQ's. As far as I'm concerned, he has no place being in the top twenty with a year like that. And with this system, he falls to 29th. A few flukey good runs shouldn't erase a sucky season.

Avery Holtzman is an even better example. He had 8 consecutive races where he either finished 23rd or worse (including 4 straight 30th or worses), or missed the race entirely. And yet, he still was able to coast his way to a top ten point finish thanks to his early season cushion. Meanwhile, Tom Delgado, who finished in the points in 13 out of 20 races (compared to Holtzman's Cool, only finished outside the top 30 once all year, and more importantly, won twice compared to Holtzman's zero wins, wound up outside the top ten. That doesn't seem right to me. Not that Tom should have won the title, but he should definitely have been ahead of Holtzman.

In summation: There is no such thing as a perfect point system.
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by gwoodard41 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:46 am

76th place, I'll take it, even though my driver finished outside the top 20 both times. Indy due to tire issues and Decatur... well, the car wasn't going the way it was intended too.
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by bartman97 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:03 am

Nice work Spen!
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by JMac525 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:42 pm

This is very interesting. Nice job! Very Happy
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by PYLrulz on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:18 am

The dingus wins and I'm used as an example... Lovely Laughing
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Spen on Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:18 am

Which one are you? I didn't recall you being in the field, but I don't really stay on top of the behind-the-scenes stuff.
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Re: 2011 TMMC points, Latfordized!

Post by Alpineopossum on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:24 pm

Spen wrote:Which one are you? I didn't recall you being in the field, but I don't really stay on top of the behind-the-scenes stuff.

PYLrulz=Scott Steudler
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