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Post by Electric Wolf Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:00 pm

http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
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Post by Ben Atkins Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:04 pm

Maybe Regan Smith can get a good car now...

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Post by Electric Wolf Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:11 pm

Ben Atkins wrote:Maybe Regan Smith can get a good car now...

It all depends if there's a good ride open, but the only good ride I see is a potential 3rd Penske car, which might be Sam Hornish Jr.'s at best. Smith doesn't have the best of numbers to show his talent, but then again, who needs talent to get a ride in NASCAR anymore?
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Post by Rykia Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:22 pm

All of my why.

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Post by PackerMan71 Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:08 pm

Considering what kind of equipment he had to work with, he's actually done a pretty damn good job. I think he'll find a ride somewhere.
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Post by Alta Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 pm

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I'm already soured on the 2013 season.
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Post by Alpineopossum Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:44 pm

I'd imagine Regan will go to a good Nationwide ride. JR Motorsports and Turner come to mind.
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Post by JMac525 Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:28 am

Ugh... I really hope he doesn't end up start and parking somewhere...

Give him David Ragan's #34 ride at least.
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Post by crl Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:41 am

Oh, boy! Now Kurt Busch can wreck practically another whole fleet of an underfunded team's cars by driving like a pissed-up crackhead!

For God's sake, if you're gonna drop Smith, go get another young driver to hone his skills in that car, like Buescher or someone like that.

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Post by BWard Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:07 am

This team will regret putting Kurt Busch in the 78 car...
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Post by nepatsfan02 Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:08 pm

Regan would be a good fit in the 10 car........
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Post by Alpineopossum Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:56 pm

Just a question: does David Ragan bring cash from somewhere?
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Post by Backmarker Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:58 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:Just a question: does David Ragan bring cash from somewhere?
No.
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Post by Alta Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:07 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:Just a question: does David Ragan bring cash from somewhere?
His dad?
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Post by Chives2112 Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Alta wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:Just a question: does David Ragan bring cash from somewhere?
His dad?
Doesn't his dad own a Ford dealership? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Post by PRAWBLEMS Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:17 pm

Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.
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Post by Alta Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:32 pm

PRAWBLEMS wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.
Even if it was strategy he held of Edwards who flat out domanited that race and was on fresh tires. He's pulled his weight in a car that should be around 30th and has brought it to top 10 finishes a few times.

Kurt Busch (even know i think all the hate he gets is dumb) on the other hand has pretty much driven Finch into the ground with making stupid mistakes and aggressive over-driving. All the work Furniture Row has down could get destroyed in 1 season if they sign Busch.

If Smith doesn't get a decent ride anywhere then that basically confirms that Nascar is about money over merit when it comes to getting rides cause Regan Smith is by far the most underrated driver in Nascar today.
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Post by Ben Atkins Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:38 pm

PRAWBLEMS wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.

This is more proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

Regan Smith won Darlington ON OLD TIRES. Darlington is one of the tracks that require more driver talent than anything else, and holding off Carl Edwards was just a tad impressive too. He's been way better than that car should be, and he's never had a shot at good equipment, so how do you know he's not that good in any equipment? Fail

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Post by Vincent Giacalone Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:00 pm

PRAWBLEMS wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.

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Post by crl Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:11 pm

PRAWBLEMS wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.

Were you born stupid?

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Post by RocketKnight Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:21 pm

crl wrote:
PRAWBLEMS wrote:
Casey Lester wrote:http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120921/rsmith-wont-be-back-in-78-car/index.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Well, it'll probably be Kurt Busch. After all, he won the 2004 championship and has screwed himself out of Penske Racing and a decent ride.
He's not that good in any equipment TBH. He doesn't know when to stop pushing his car, and the only way he won Darlington was through pit strategy.

Were you born stupid?

he was. Laughing
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Post by BBoy Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:58 pm


Pull out a driver who can run consistently inside the top 15, and put in a driver who does almost nothing but wreck racecars these days. Smart. No
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Post by Rykia Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:05 pm

inb4theywantreganbackafter10races

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Post by JMac525 Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:11 pm


How I feel about this...



I hope Regan ends up somewhere good in Nationwide or somewhere that doesn't s&p in Cup...
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:43 pm

RIP in piece Furniture Row Racing 2005-2013
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Post by Electric Wolf Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:52 pm

Kurt Busch replacing Smith: http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com/news/120924/kubusch-to-furniture-row-in-2013/index.html

...well, looks like RealRacer4 beat me to it. Razz I'll actually get around to picks this week, too and I'll be rooting for Smith just a bit more.
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Post by Alta Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:00 pm

2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/
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Post by Vincent Giacalone Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:23 pm

Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
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Post by Alta Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:20 pm

Nascarboy426 wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
Yeah. But with how this silly season's been, it seems like all the cash drivers are getting the rides
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Post by Toblerone Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:05 pm

Alta wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
Yeah. But with how this silly season's been, it seems like all the cash drivers are getting the rides

I don't like all these drivers who float around trading cars. I think Nascar needs a good refresh of drivers soon to stay relevant anymore. We are running out of driver/team combos!
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Post by Sparkz47 Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:05 pm

Toblerone wrote:
Alta wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
Yeah. But with how this silly season's been, it seems like all the cash drivers are getting the rides

I don't like all these drivers who float around trading cars. I think Nascar needs a good refresh of drivers soon to stay relevant anymore. We are running out of driver/team combos!

We're running out of everything. Talent, originality, action, entertainment, fan support, common sense. NASCAR really needs to smarten up, stop screwing with some things, and START screwing with others. Over-commercialization, lack of genuine talent, and general stupidity have been running this organization down the drain since the mid-2000's, and if NASCAR doesn't find a way to get back to something akin it's glory days of the late 80's and 90's, the future could be looking grim.

/end-unrelated-rant

So, yeah, another chance for Kurt to smash in some more hoods,
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:07 pm

Toblerone wrote:
Alta wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
Yeah. But with how this silly season's been, it seems like all the cash drivers are getting the rides

I don't like all these drivers who float around trading cars. I think Nascar needs a good refresh of drivers soon to stay relevant anymore. We are running out of driver/team combos!
^This. As soon as you get used to someone being in one car they move to another. Something I found out last night, since Matt Kenseth is moving from RFR to JGR, that leaves Jeff Gordon the only driver who is still in the same car/team from the 2001 Daytona 500. The next oldest driver/team combo is Kevin Harvick/29/RCR.
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Post by conrail1990 Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:23 pm

There are a couple of things Nascar needs. New racing facilities! Kentucky, Chicagoland, California, Michigan, Chicagoland, Kansas are all tracks that are more billboard space that race focused. Long, wide and boring. We need more tracks that are 1 or less miles. And one or two road courses wouldnt hurt. Also stop messing with the damn car! the COT ruined racing for the past 5 years. Safety is a plus, but when your are going to force a car to be aerodynamically slower. The racing suffers big time and thats one thing Nascar hasnt figured out. Nascar blams the economy for fans not showing up to races,. When nascar cant even see their own faults asan issue. Why spend 4 hours at a track to get sunburned and watch nothing happen. When you can stay at home and flip to the next channel.

But back on topic. I hope Regan gets a good ride somewhere, he deserves it. Personally I think this will be a gain for both Busch and Furniture Row. But only time will tell whether their investment was a good one.
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Post by crl Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:32 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
Toblerone wrote:
Alta wrote:
Nascarboy426 wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Doesn't Furniture Row already have sponsors or is it a Front Row-esque deal?
Yeah. But with how this silly season's been, it seems like all the cash drivers are getting the rides

I don't like all these drivers who float around trading cars. I think Nascar needs a good refresh of drivers soon to stay relevant anymore. We are running out of driver/team combos!

We're running out of everything. Talent, originality, action, entertainment, fan support, common sense. NASCAR really needs to smarten up, stop screwing with some things, and START screwing with others. Over-commercialization, lack of genuine talent, and general stupidity have been running this organization down the drain since the mid-2000's, and if NASCAR doesn't find a way to get back to something akin it's glory days of the late 80's and 90's, the future could be looking grim.

/end-unrelated-rant

So, yeah, another chance for Kurt to smash in some more hoods,

That's why the implementation of the "go for only one championship" rule is so smart. It makes Cup drivers focus on Cup, so talent can begin to develop in Nationwide and Trucks. Sure, there are some who will never make it to the highest level in a million years, but still, at least we can see somewhat of a future for Cup.

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Post by Alta Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:49 pm

...............................................

SPEED's Race Hub reported Wednesday evening that Regan Smith's final race of the season in the Furniture Row Racing #78 would be at Talladega. Kurt Busch is expected to drive the car the remainder of the season.(9-26-2012)
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Post by crl Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Alta wrote:...............................................

SPEED's Race Hub reported Wednesday evening that Regan Smith's final race of the season in the Furniture Row Racing #78 would be at Talladega. Kurt Busch is expected to drive the car the remainder of the season.(9-26-2012)

Well, he can plunge them into the ground a season early!

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Post by RealRacer4 Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:56 pm

Alta wrote:...............................................

SPEED's Race Hub reported Wednesday evening that Regan Smith's final race of the season in the Furniture Row Racing #78 would be at Talladega. Kurt Busch is expected to drive the car the remainder of the season.(9-26-2012)

For the love of god, Regan Smith doesn't even get to finish the season with FRR? How pathetic. No

I hope he can find a ride by then.

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Post by Racerfan275 Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:56 pm

crl wrote:
Alta wrote:...............................................

SPEED's Race Hub reported Wednesday evening that Regan Smith's final race of the season in the Furniture Row Racing #78 would be at Talladega. Kurt Busch is expected to drive the car the remainder of the season.(9-26-2012)

Well, he can plunge them into the ground a season early!
Hope Smith wins that one, would seem really appropriate

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Post by Vincent Giacalone Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:45 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
We're running out of everything. Talent, originality, action, entertainment, fan support, common sense. NASCAR really needs to smarten up, stop screwing with some things, and START screwing with others. Over-commercialization, lack of genuine talent, and general stupidity have been running this organization down the drain since the mid-2000's, and if NASCAR doesn't find a way to get back to something akin it's glory days of the late 80's and 90's, the future could be looking grim.

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I know this is so much like me, but I agree.

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Post by Alta Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:49 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:
We're running out of everything. Talent, originality, action, entertainment, fan support, common sense. NASCAR really needs to smarten up, stop screwing with some things, and START screwing with others. Over-commercialization, lack of genuine talent, and general stupidity have been running this organization down the drain since the mid-2000's, and if NASCAR doesn't find a way to get back to something akin it's glory days of the late 80's and 90's, the future could be looking grim.

/end-unrelated-rant

So, yeah, another chance for Kurt to smash in some more hoods,
This post sums up my feelings about this season in general and next season in general (Although like you state this isn't a new thing)
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Post by Tanrar Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 am

There are several underlying problems with NASCAR that seem to be dragging it down:

1: The governing body making stupid decisions (The Chase, Wild Cards, re-seeding, etc.) and turning NASCAR into WWE on wheels.

2: Cup drivers destroying the lower tiers and making it nearly impossible for young talents to move up to the top division, and potentially ruining their careers.

3: A dreadfully boring schedule. Cookie cutters like California, Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan and Texas aren't gonna bring in that much profit wise.

Like Sparkz said, NASCAR really needs to shape up and become a better series, otherwise the future could look very bleak.
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Post by Cynon Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:18 am

Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Yeah. Kurt Busch has a big wallet. Are you kidding me? Kurt Busch having a big wallet?

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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:50 am

If we want to give NASCAR suggestions they'd LISTEN to, I'd start with suggesting we rename "cookie-cutters" to "Brutondromes" for 2013.
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Post by Alta Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:39 am

Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Yeah. Kurt Busch has a big wallet. Are you kidding me? Kurt Busch having a big wallet?
Other then that or his name...i can't figure out why people want him after his impressive run with Phoenix. :/
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Post by crl Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:53 am

Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Yeah. Kurt Busch has a big wallet. Are you kidding me? Kurt Busch having a big wallet?
Other then that or his name...i can't figure out why people want him after his impressive run with Phoenix. :/

He's also a got a "championship" (I put that word in quotation marks for a reason).

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Post by Alta Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:05 am

crl wrote:
Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:
Alta wrote:2013 is already rivaling 2012 for worst season.

Canning actual talent for who's got the big wallet. But hey maybe that means more failure in Cup! :/

Yeah. Kurt Busch has a big wallet. Are you kidding me? Kurt Busch having a big wallet?
Other then that or his name...i can't figure out why people want him after his impressive run with Phoenix. :/

He's also a got a "championship" (I put that word in quotation marks for a reason).
That as well.
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Post by Rykia Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:00 am

I just lost more respect for FRM

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:15 am

Rykia_RKXK wrote:I just lost more respect for FRM
What did Front Row Motorsports do?
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Post by PKligBKFan Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:51 am

Well Regan Smith is getting completely screwed. He moved to Denver, Colorado where the team is located and he doesn't even get to finish the season with them. He got them their first win as well. I believe Busch has already refused to move to Denver. Joe Garone & Barney Visser are super Christian. Can't wait to see how they react to him dropping the F bomb at Charlotte...
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