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Post by BWard on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:55 am

F1 returns for back-to-back Race weekends in arriving in Monza, Italy for the running of the Italian GP. With it's very long straightaway's, the DRS might play a big factor in the outcome of the Race.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:40 am

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Post by BWard on Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:15 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:

I know I've been in this situation before, but that joke I don't think needs to be here anymore.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:52 pm

Given how strong Button was in Belgium, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls out another win, especially considering he's got 3 2nd place finishes on the bounce at Monza.
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Post by Dan Mackay on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:00 pm

ill plus 1 a mclaren or vettel wins lol moment

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Post by nepatsfan02 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:03 am

I sense a D'Ambrosio win.........
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Re: Italian Grand Prix - Formula One

Post by Milan655 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:53 pm

Sutil and Hulkenberg are supposed candidates to replace Massa in the second Ferrari seat. Hulkenberg has supposedly already signed an agreement with Ferrari, and Sutil (who was convicted of a bar fight with Eric Lux, the Renault Lotus owner) has said he has the ability to consistantly score points and feels he matches the criteria for Ferrari.

Source: http://www.422race.com/2012/ferrari-dalla-germania-candidano-hulkenberg-e-sutil/comment-page-1/

(It's in Italian, you could use Google Translate or something)
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Post by Metro 6r4 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:05 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:Given how strong Button was in Belgium, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls out another win, especially considering he's got 3 2nd place finishes on the bounce at Monza.
That would be pretty neat. I would love button to go on a winning streak from now on, snatch the title and run off with it.(unfortunately it's not that simple)
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Post by Alta on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:14 pm

Milan655 wrote:Sutil and Hulkenberg are supposed candidates to replace Massa in the second Ferrari seat. Hulkenberg has supposedly already signed an agreement with Ferrari, and Sutil (who was convicted of a bar fight with Eric Lux, the Renault Lotus owner) has said he has the ability to consistantly score points and feels he matches the criteria for Ferrari.

Source: http://www.422race.com/2012/ferrari-dalla-germania-candidano-hulkenberg-e-sutil/comment-page-1/

(It's in Italian, you could use Google Translate or something)
I'm honestly surprised by both names, Sutil kind of fell of the face of the earth and Hulkenberg has done good....but i'm surprised Ferrari's considering him. Honestly though Perez would be all but confirmed for Massa's seat.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:33 pm

Alta wrote:
Milan655 wrote:Sutil and Hulkenberg are supposed candidates to replace Massa in the second Ferrari seat. Hulkenberg has supposedly already signed an agreement with Ferrari, and Sutil (who was convicted of a bar fight with Eric Lux, the Renault Lotus owner) has said he has the ability to consistantly score points and feels he matches the criteria for Ferrari.

Source: http://www.422race.com/2012/ferrari-dalla-germania-candidano-hulkenberg-e-sutil/comment-page-1/

(It's in Italian, you could use Google Translate or something)
I'm honestly surprised by both names, Sutil kind of fell of the face of the earth and Hulkenberg has done good....but i'm surprised Ferrari's considering him. Honestly though Perez would be all but confirmed for Massa's seat.

Considering Montezemolo was railing against Perez for not being experienced enough, I highly doubt they'd take Hulkenberg first, when he has the same level of experience, and really hasn't made much of an impression until the last few races. Sutil is a definate maybe though; obviously he'd jump at the chance of a Ferrari seat, even if it's only for a year, and he did an admirable job for Force India. He'd be a pretty good stop-gap measure until Montezuma's happy with Perez.
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Post by Milan655 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:00 pm



Comparing 1966 Monza to 2007 Monza. The 1966 Monza clips, and the man walking down the straight, are from the 1966 movie 'Grand Prix'.
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Re: Italian Grand Prix - Formula One

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:14 am

Practice 1.
1 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:25.422 26
2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.723 0.301 29
3 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:25.762 0.340 26
4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.800 0.378 22
5 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.861 0.439 27
6 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.944 0.522 30
7 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:26.046 0.624 25
8 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.323 0.901 26
9 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:26.390 0.968 24
10 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:26.504 1.082 19
11 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:26.508 1.086 18
12 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:26.518 1.096 21
13 19 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:26.641 1.219 26
14 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.746 1.324 23
15 10 Jerome D'Ambrosio Lotus-Renault 1:27.180 1.758 29
16 11 Jules Bianchi Force India-Mercedes 1:27.192 1.770 22
17 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:27.373 1.951 25
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:27.789 2.367 24
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:27.855 2.433 27
20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:28.578 3.156 20
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.751 3.329 26
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:29.207 3.785 21
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:29.331 3.909 21
24 23 Qing Hua Ma HRT-Cosworth 1:31.239 5.817 26

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:22 am

Practice 2.

1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.290 32
2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.328 0.038 35
3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.348 0.058 17
4 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.430 0.140 43
5 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:25.446 0.156 41
6 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:25.504 0.214 42
7 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:25.546 0.256 40
8 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:25.547 0.257 36
9 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.068 0.778 32
10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:26.094 0.804 38
11 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:26.104 0.814 35
12 10 Jerome D'Ambrosio Lotus-Renault 1:26.157 0.867 36
13 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:26.394 1.104 31
14 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:26.404 1.114 42
15 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:26.724 1.434 33
16 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.730 1.440 17
17 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:26.783 1.493 39
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:26.841 1.551 39
19 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:26.864 1.574 36
20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:27.222 1.932 36
21 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.944 2.654 36
22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.968 2.678 36
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:28.575 3.285 34
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:28.779 3.489 21

Damn it Red Bull get your $hit together.
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Post by BlueThunderfan on Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:49 am

i'm telling you, Lotus will regret their decision to replace Grosjean with Ambrosio...
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Post by Ben Atkins on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:46 pm

BlueThunderfan wrote:i'm telling you, Lotus will regret their decision to replace Grosjean with Ambrosio...

They didn't exactly have a choice, though.

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Post by Milan655 on Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:42 pm

BlueThunderfan wrote:i'm telling you, Lotus will regret their decision to replace Grosjean with Ambrosio...

Grosjean has a 1 race ban Smile
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:21 am

Practice 3: The only time I roll Vettel he's slow as $hit.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:39 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Practice 3: The only time I roll Vettel he's slow as $hit.


I hear Vettel had technical issues in 3rd practice, I think he lost battery power or something.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:12 am

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Practice 3: The only time I roll Vettel he's slow as $hit.


I hear Vettel had technical issues in 3rd practice, I think he lost battery power or something.
Yeah but he's been out of the top 10 all weekend, and last week he didn't make Q3. The mid year did not do RBR wonders.
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Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:04 am

Something broke on Alonso's car I heard
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Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:21 am

Broken rear ARB
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Post by Dan Mackay on Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:54 pm

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Re: Italian Grand Prix - Formula One

Post by Metro 6r4 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:59 pm

Dan Mackay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB2j8xB1jUo&feature=player_embedded

lol leave it to gp3 to engage a bump draft
Just think how stupid he would have looked if he had crashed
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Post by Milan655 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:21 pm

Dan Mackay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB2j8xB1jUo&feature=player_embedded

lol leave it to gp3 to engage a bump draft

I was waiting for that to turn up on Youtube Smile

Also, Luca Filippi won in the GP2 Feature race despite not competing in any form of racing (although he was meant to be running the IndyCar series this year after Indy) for 12 months afraid
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Post by Alta on Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:38 pm

Dan Mackay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB2j8xB1jUo&feature=player_embedded

lol leave it to gp3 to engage a bump draft
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Post by BWard on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:59 am

Looks like Button 'sChampionship Chances are all but over.
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Post by BWard on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:25 am


Hamilton has racked up this race, nice run by Perez though.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:27 am

Sergio Perez continues to impress.

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Post by Alta on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:29 am

Okay race.

Hamilton makes all the British people wet their pants. Perez gets close again but just had too much time to make up in too little laps...Really want to see him win for Sauber before Ferrari tries to get him.

Red Bull falls to pieces faster then a Torro Rosso suspension break and nice racing overall.
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Post by bartman97 on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:45 am

Only if Perez had 5 laps more...only.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:54 am

>Vergne suspensions dies
>Vettel engines dies
>Webber engines dies
>Ricciardo gets passed by both Williams on the last lap and drops from 10th to 12th.

GOD DAMN IT RED BULL
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:19 am

It's also the first time since Korea 2010 that RBR has not scored points.
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Post by Milan655 on Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:09 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
>Webber engines dies
*Webber's tyres die
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Post by Cynon on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:03 pm

bartman97 wrote:Only if Perez had 5 laps more...only.

He wasn't going to beat Hamilton.

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Post by Alta on Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:17 am

Cynon wrote:
bartman97 wrote:Only if Perez had 5 laps more...only.

He wasn't going to beat Hamilton.
He was closing the at a pretty decent pace. But it's another case of what could've been/we'll never know.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:42 am

Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:
bartman97 wrote:Only if Perez had 5 laps more...only.

He wasn't going to beat Hamilton.
He was closing the at a pretty decent pace. But it's another case of what could've been/we'll never know.

Hamilton was pacing himself to the end of the race, same as what Button did in Belgium a week ago. If there were 5 more laps Hamilton would've gone a bit faster to accomodate for that. No point pushing really hard if you're not going to be threatened.
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Post by Milan655 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:05 pm

RetrogradeRenegade wrote:
Alta wrote:
Cynon wrote:
bartman97 wrote:Only if Perez had 5 laps more...only.

He wasn't going to beat Hamilton.
He was closing the at a pretty decent pace. But it's another case of what could've been/we'll never know.

Hamilton was pacing himself to the end of the race, same as what Button did in Belgium a week ago. If there were 5 more laps Hamilton would've gone a bit faster to accomodate for that. No point pushing really hard if you're not going to be threatened.

Additionally, at the pace Perez was running I would doubt the tyres could last another 5 laps
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Re: Italian Grand Prix - Formula One

Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:35 pm

If anyone's interested, there's a video here showing the Vettel/Alonso incidents in 2011 and 2012 side-by-side.
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Post by Milan655 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:04 pm

I think Vettel left much less space. I work for the owner of Red Bull, so you can't (technically) call me bias..
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:08 am


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